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ofrhz · Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:16 am

Why haven’t you voted for creature yet, vork?

Eyes without a face · Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:22 am

In post 1212, LuckyOtter wrote:
In post 1150, Eyes without a face wrote:Both RedFlavor and Vorkuta have been early on the Creature wagon and not on Niko, so I don't think they're scum with Creature.
If there's scum on the Creature wagon, wouldn't they be more likely to be earlier on it? Red and vork were votes 2 and 3, not putting creature in any real danger. The second wave was Kop(Niko), Nero, Roster, Jesus. I just don't see scum doing that when Creature is not even obviously the lynch.

Now, Roster immediately unvotes, as does Red after Alchemist joins. So I'm still good with Red as scum here. Roster is unclear. I'm good with Alchemist and Nero as town, and leaning town on Jesus.

Scum Creature does not respond well to pressure, so I don't think his partners would start a wagon on him unless it was meant to be a full bus (i.e. they won't unvote when it grows because that's exactly what would happen if you start a wagon on scum Creature). So, scum were probably forced to join the wagon later on for town credit in case it did go through. Why would scum try to bus a commuter anyway? Creature was supposed to live for 4 days and 4 nights if he had tried to play the game.

I'd agree with you if Creature was a goon or if it was someone else.. someone who could actually argue against their own lynch and appear a little bit more townie. That way the scum voting early are successfully distancing but not actually bus'ing.

ofrhz · Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:23 am

In post 1215, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 1201, Montosh wrote:
Vork:

233 Never been able to read Creature. Didn't pretend to be able to this game. And yeah he was scum. But I still ask why this?

yes

And what were you saying yes to?

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:26 am

In post 1222, Vorkuta wrote:I will stop quotewalling if you vote creature

I wonder if he's trying to fake dumbtell

ofrhz · Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:27 am

Yeah same hence the questions

Vorkuta · Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:27 am

I'm not someone who puts their votes where their hearts lie

For instance in this case: I want to assess the feasibility and likelyhood of a teacher wagon actually working, and see who might want to initiate on top of me.
Or, in essence, who wants to take credit for cofounding/costarting the revival of his wagon/push with me.

Also I'd love it if I could L-1 or hammer him.

btw- amazing eyes post ^ that further illustrates the need for a creature wagon- pressure him

rosterfoster · Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:28 am

Creature died last night..

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:30 am

In post 1231, rosterfoster wrote:Creature died last night..

shhh don't tell him

Vorkuta · Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:30 am

oh I thought everyone was playing along

ofrhz · Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:31 am

Kirari Momobami · Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:32 am

Yeah I would lynch creature, seems like caught scum to me :3

Vorkuta · Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:33 am

yes
why haven't you started the creature wagon with me

ok fine

It's to mock some people for bring it up this far in and use it as a scum!vork case.

Vorkuta · Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:34 am

Like Kublai has it out for me and I'd love to know why

ofrhz · Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:35 am

Vorks still town

rosterfoster · Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:35 am

Vork I didn’t think you did sarcasm <3

I’m proud of you

ofrhz · Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:35 am

Anyone townreading Jesus?

rosterfoster · Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:36 am

I think Otter is town.

VOTE: Eyes

rosterfoster · Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:36 am

In post 1240, ofrhz wrote:Anyone townreading Jesus?

Aye

rosterfoster · Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:37 am

In post 1226, Eyes without a face wrote:
In post 1212, LuckyOtter wrote:
In post 1150, Eyes without a face wrote:Both RedFlavor and Vorkuta have been early on the Creature wagon and not on Niko, so I don't think they're scum with Creature.
If there's scum on the Creature wagon, wouldn't they be more likely to be earlier on it? Red and vork were votes 2 and 3, not putting creature in any real danger. The second wave was Kop(Niko), Nero, Roster, Jesus. I just don't see scum doing that when Creature is not even obviously the lynch.

Now, Roster immediately unvotes, as does Red after Alchemist joins. So I'm still good with Red as scum here. Roster is unclear. I'm good with Alchemist and Nero as town, and leaning town on Jesus.
Scum Creature does not respond well to pressure, so I don't think his partners would start a wagon on him unless it was meant to be a full bus (i.e. they won't unvote when it grows because that's exactly what would happen if you start a wagon on scum Creature). So, scum were probably forced to join the wagon later on for town credit in case it did go through. Why would scum try to bus a commuter anyway? Creature was supposed to live for 4 days and 4 nights if he had tried to play the game.

I'd agree with you if Creature was a goon or if it was someone else.. someone who could actually argue against their own lynch and appear a little bit more townie. That way the scum voting early are successfully distancing but not actually bus'ing.

I feel like this comes from someone with too much info

Vorkuta · Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:42 am

In post 1239, rosterfoster wrote:Vork I didn’t think you did sarcasm <3

I’m proud of you

I was out of ideas as to how I could possibly respond to Kublai's nonsense in any other way
also <3 to you too

I'm not all anti-fun

Alchemist21 · Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:49 am

In post 1226, Eyes without a face wrote:Scum Creature does not respond well to pressure, so I don't think his partners would start a wagon on him unless it was meant to be a full bus

What if the scum buddies didn’t know that about creature?

Kublai Khan · Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:07 am

In post 1223, ofrhz wrote:Why not Jesus? I think Vorkuta’s early vote on Creature was towny

I think if he were SvS with Creature, he would’ve played it up more?

Fine. Eyes without a face makes a good point. Something still feels really off about Vorkuta. He's faking something and maybe it's just the fake-stupid thing he's doing. He'd be townier if he stopped.

VOTE: Jesus Louisus

DeasVail · Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:29 am

I think Vorkuta is more scummy than Jesus fwiw, and I also have serious concerns about Lil Uzi Vert

LuckyOtter · Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:52 pm

In post 1216, ofrhz wrote:
In post 1105, LuckyOtter wrote:
In post 1103, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1072, LuckyOtter wrote:Trying to get caught up. I'm really not liking the flashwagon on Jesus yesterday because of his "do you have a gun" comment. Like, did you all really think that was rolefishing? @LUV, roster, redflavor.
It could be role-fishing. Creature was role-fishing early on. What town reason does he have to ask?
His comment read as a joke to me and the jumping on him seems suspect.
It evidently wasn’t a joke

Yeah :/ I honestly don't know what to make of him anymore. But his position on the creature wagon seems like not something a scumbuddy would likely do.

LuckyOtter · Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:59 pm

In post 1245, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1226, Eyes without a face wrote:Scum Creature does not respond well to pressure, so I don't think his partners would start a wagon on him unless it was meant to be a full bus
What if the scum buddies didn’t know that about creature?

Also, would just a couple votes be enough to make creature implode? Doesn't look like it. He kept playing right along (not, like, well, but he didn't have a meltdown)

Not at all on board with eyes' analysis of the creature wagon.