Open 761: Grey Flag Nightless - [It's over!]

[Bitmap]

RC on a scale from 0 to 100 how confident are you on your Datisi read

this question is useless if u actually kept up with the last 20 pages

[Chemist1422]

RC on a scale from 0 to 100 how confident are you on your Datisi read

this question is useless if u actually kept up with the last 20 pages

I know

I’m asking anyway

[Shoshin]

Lynching Dat/Abu probably wins the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Not understanding your Abu scumread over like Buj

[Shoshin]

His case on Ircher looks like a scum case to me.

[Ircher]

I feel if Radiant was scum, they would be approaching this game differently.

What would he do different?

The basic premise lies within your early interactions with Radiant. Radiant is a really aggressive player who also has a slight tendency to reflexively scumread people who cast doubt on his slot. But when I read your early interactions with Radiant, I get the feeling that's it's either TvT or SvS. Though y'all disagree on quite a few points, Radiant seemed actively interested in sorting you as well as working with you. He had an agenda, but it didn't feel like a scum-motivated one.

[Chemist1422]

yeah Abu can be scum, and probably not with Ircher

I don’t like them calling Shoshin scum then chainsawing them because of Ircher’s vote

[RadiantCowbells]

He can be in my lynchpool I guess

As of right now I want to kill all of {datisi Abu chemist buj}

And spare RC Shoshin Bitmap Ircher

There's a 9th slot I have no read on huh

[RadiantCowbells]

Chemist makes exact sense as third member with Datisi/Buj

[Shoshin]

I feel if Radiant was scum, they would be approaching this game differently.

What would he do different?

The basic premise lies within your early interactions with Radiant. Radiant is a really aggressive player who also has a slight tendency to reflexively scumread people who cast doubt on his slot. But when I read your early interactions with Radiant, I get the feeling that's it's either TvT or SvS. Though y'all disagree on quite a few points, Radiant seemed actively interested in sorting you as well as working with you. He had an agenda, but it didn't feel like a scum-motivated one.

I don't think this answers my question. What would scum RC do different?

[Shoshin]

He can be in my lynchpool I guess

As of right now I want to kill all of {datisi Abu chemist buj}

And spare RC Shoshin Bitmap Ircher

There's a 9th slot I have no read on huh

This is sort of where I'm at. Less sure on Ircher.

[RadiantCowbells]

His entire approach to the game

He came in with townreads on datisi and buj

He's still pushing that buj townread but has put himself open to switching the read on Datisi since she's functionally donezo at this point

He's put every single mislynchable slot below Buj and isn't committing to a read on either of us so he doesn't have to sheep us

Specifically brought up it being important to not listen to me, etc.

[Shoshin]

Who is the "he" you're talking about?

[Chemist1422]

Who is the "he" you're talking about?

Yo

[RadiantCowbells]

Chemist1422.

[Chemist1422]

His entire approach to the game

He came in with townreads on datisi and buj

He's still pushing that buj townread but has put himself open to switching the read on Datisi since she's functionally donezo at this point

He's put every single mislynchable slot below Buj and isn't committing to a read on either of us so he doesn't have to sheep us

Specifically brought up it being important to not listen to me, etc.

RC even if you were peeked town I wouldn’t automatically sheep you

I say this with all due respect

[RadiantCowbells]

But would your reads be this bad?

[RadiantCowbells]

I would say ~70% of the time the game is outright over with Bujaber and Datisi lynches and you are the single person who has played this game in a manner most fitting for their teammate.
You've done everything that their teammate would need to be doing as scum to make sure that they don't both end up going down.
You're setting up alternative tomorrow lynches, you're avoiding taking the fall too hard for Datisi if it becomes inevitable, you're setting yourself up to hard defend Bujaber tomorrow, you're preempting the discrediting of my reads, etc.

[Shoshin]

Why is Buj town, Chemist?

[Ircher]

I feel if Radiant was scum, they would be approaching this game differently.

What would he do different?

The basic premise lies within your early interactions with Radiant. Radiant is a really aggressive player who also has a slight tendency to reflexively scumread people who cast doubt on his slot. But when I read your early interactions with Radiant, I get the feeling that's it's either TvT or SvS. Though y'all disagree on quite a few points, Radiant seemed actively interested in sorting you as well as working with you. He had an agenda, but it didn't feel like a scum-motivated one.

I don't think this answers my question. What would scum RC do different?

More aggressive and OMGUSy. Less controlled.

[Shoshin]

I think your understanding of RC's scum play is incorrect, Ircher. But I'm willing to accept that you believe this.

[Ircher]

My conjecture could be 100% wrong I guess. I don't have much experience with scum!RC, esp. recent experience.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ircher has felt like scum's designated mislynch all game.

[Shoshin]

Could be.

[RadiantCowbells]

I really can't imagine Town!Datisi giving up because I scumread her.

If she thinks I'm scum, she would hit back swinging.
If she thinks I'm town, she would try to persuade me.

I think she's scum and just felt overwhelmed and didn't think there was much she could do.