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Post Post #6760 (isolation #400) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:18 pm

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alright

just need to have a very confident townblock then
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Post Post #6761 (isolation #401) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:18 pm

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what convinces you on RC-town Enter?
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Post Post #6763 (isolation #402) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:21 pm

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I skimmed the whole thing

but be aware that I don't retain stuff when I read things just after I woke up
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Post Post #6766 (isolation #403) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:38 pm

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In post 6764, Enter wrote:
In post 6761, Ankamius wrote:what convinces you on RC-town Enter?
I'm trying to get to this point, but people aren't working with me.
My stance on RC is that he's town until it makes sense for him not to be.
Right now the game could make sense with RC as town, and for this reason I'm doing my very very best to try and rule out every possibility that anyone else could be scum.
This is what frustrates me most about xtoxm and Liger and people like them at the moment - people who are saying scum is likely in the town block or people who want to push the town block but refuse to town spew themselves or show even a glimmer of critical thought behind it.
Approaching RC scum right now is ridiculous and stupid considering how many of the other players in this game could easily be scum and are playing to a scum WINCON. It will absolutely create chaos, and for that reason RC needs to be scum beyond a reasonable doubt before he's approached by it.
For that reason I won't consider RC scum until I've ruled out every possibility. I thought I had more time so I was going to ride this out a little closer to the end, and my fear was that he might have been scum w/ Rei considering she's played reasonably well, but I don't see her pushing a specifically town mindset and iirc, the "rei is locktown" thought came from PoR.
I asked Rei earlier what she thought of the possibility that RC was scum to see what I could get from that, but considering that it's quite possible she's scum w/ him her answer could easily be altered so hiding this now seems like poor judgement.
My end-all objective is to not leave town with a scum-infested town block so I'm going over everything to the best of my ability to try and make sure there aren't weeds in the garden.
I want to make it very very very clear that I am not pushing RC as scum right now. I do not think RC is scum right now. I'm currently ignoring any chance of paranoia on my RC read, and my approach is to verify everyone else is town before even looking in that direction.
I hate that I made this post because it shows a sign that people might be willing to lynch RC and I don't want that considered in the slightest until we get solid proof otherwise, but I think it's getting to the point where I need to be transparent with everything.

Do you have thoughts on this?

His day one was really town and I think he would have rammed through Xtoxm d3 as scum here, but otherwise he's sort of faded as a presence for the most part and the fact that I have nothing recent to point to is... a bit more iffy.

the game would be a lot simpler if I could just townlock him honestly :/
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Post Post #6767 (isolation #404) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:39 pm

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oh btw, Creature flipped my tell this game

I'm pretty certain he's town
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Post Post #6769 (isolation #405) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:40 pm

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I have to go really soon for work but I'll look over my notes and try to identify the most (???) slots for me when I'm around again
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Post Post #6771 (isolation #406) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:42 pm

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In post 6768, Enter wrote:
In post 6766, Ankamius wrote:His day one was really town and I think he would have rammed through Xtoxm d3 as scum here, but otherwise he's sort of faded as a presence for the most part and the fact that I have nothing recent to point to is... a bit more iffy.

the game would be a lot simpler if I could just townlock him honestly :/
I agree with both of these sentiments.
That's why I do townlock him. I townlock RC until the game becomes less simple to not townlock him. Unfortunately, due to IRL conditions I can't afford that attitude for the moment.
I do think that it is very very unlikely for rei to be scum if RC is not also scum this game, would you agree?
idk

I feel like Rei's treatment of RC during d4 was a bit too obvious to be SvS combined with RC's... lack of confidence(?), that feels like a really clumsy interaction for those two to be having

if there's good reason to only see Rei as possible with RC, that's probably enough to townlock her
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Post Post #6774 (isolation #407) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:47 pm

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In post 401, northsidegal wrote:
Votecount 1.7

Shoshin(4)
~ (10), (9), (70), (5)

DoubtingThomas(3)
~ (17), (45), (15)
Xtoxm(1)
~ (15)
Vedith(1)
~ (78)
Lycanfire(1)
~ (1)
Gamma Emerald(1)
~ (10)
Extrapolated Eagle(1)
~ (23)
Clemency(1)
~ (32)


Not Voting (4): Gamma Emerald(15), Clemency(6), Vedith(32), Karmeleon(8)

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 22:19:59)
In post 657, northsidegal wrote:
Votecount 1.8

Shoshin(4)
~ (10), (13), (88), (69)

Xtoxm(2)
~ (24), (79)
NerfedBuJ(2)
~ (73), (16)
DoubtingThomas(2)
~ (16), (76)
Vedith(1)
~ (90)
Lycanfire(1)
~ (1)
Gamma Emerald(1)
~ (14)


Not Voting (4): Gamma Emerald(15), (36), Clemency(9), Karmeleon(16)

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 22:19:59)



Searching for a replacement for Frozen Angel.
this is a good chunk of posts later but grapes still ends up going from the Shoshin wagon over to the BuJ wagon with only Vedit

that's the one thing that really stood out about vedith in my analysis (other than him being a possible off-wagon partner but I haven't verified that in either direction yet) and kind of play doesn't match how awkward and nervous grapes was the entire game; I don't think he would have enough bravery to go this route
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Post Post #6775 (isolation #408) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:47 pm

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that's combined with me thinking his d3 was not very likely faked

I'm referring to his reads and thought processes, not the replace out
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Post Post #6776 (isolation #409) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:47 pm

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gotta run bye
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Post Post #6778 (isolation #410) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:49 pm

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I'll look later
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Post Post #6958 (isolation #411) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:08 am

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In post 6952, RadiantCowbells wrote:I feel like scum is going to be people who were in the original, day 2ish Poe pool but who have had replacements that have proceeded to power play while townies have gotten complacent and let their town standing fall
what was this poe pool
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Post Post #7067 (isolation #412) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:39 pm

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gimme a min enter
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Post Post #7093 (isolation #413) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:47 pm

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The tone he is using is one I can't read Enter :/
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Post Post #7095 (isolation #414) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:47 pm

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These pedits are great, thanks
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Post Post #7097 (isolation #415) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:48 pm

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In post 7094, RadiantCowbells wrote:ank whats your formerfish read
Highest scum equity slot atm
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Post Post #7103 (isolation #416) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:51 pm

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Is it sad that creatures boring birthday party is more interesting than the game atm
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Post Post #7115 (isolation #417) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:59 pm

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If liger is scum, he's the cheekiest scumfuck on the site

I mean... It's possible that's a strategy but best case he's just town filling the thread with sarcasm and snark and I don't know how to tell the two apart sadly

Or even if there is a difference at all
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Post Post #7120 (isolation #418) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:00 pm

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I think liger was a lot more readable towards the beginning of his iso but I'm sure as hell not going to go back and look
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Post Post #7126 (isolation #419) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:02 pm

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I don't think he was really engagey in anime upick either iirc, I'm not sure that's scum indicative for him
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Post Post #7127 (isolation #420) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:03 pm

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Pedits on my kindle are going to be the reason I don't have a kindle anymore
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Post Post #7141 (isolation #421) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:07 pm

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idfk

this game is moving faster than my care level at this point
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Post Post #7153 (isolation #422) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:13 pm

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In post 7144, Enter wrote:
In post 7141, Ankamius wrote:idfk

this game is moving faster than my care level at this point
Alright.
Let's just talk.

Who would suck to lose the game to right now?
tbh

my townreads, I'd pretty much universally be okay losing to :/
Liger I'd just feel insulted by if I lost to him
everyone else mostly just depends on partner I think, I'd feel bad losing to like... or/max or something in that ballpark
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Post Post #7158 (isolation #423) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:17 pm

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In post 7154, Enter wrote:
In post 7153, Ankamius wrote:
In post 7144, Enter wrote:
In post 7141, Ankamius wrote:idfk

this game is moving faster than my care level at this point
Alright.
Let's just talk.

Who would suck to lose the game to right now?
tbh

my townreads, I'd pretty much universally be okay losing to :/
Liger I'd just feel insulted by if I lost to him
everyone else mostly just depends on partner I think, I'd feel bad losing to like... or/max or something in that ballpark
What are your townreads?
you
creature
jingle

rei/rc/vedith are all a step below that, I'd feel fine losing to them too probably
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Post Post #7160 (isolation #424) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:19 pm

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either of them have earned the win if they are
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Post Post #7163 (isolation #425) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:20 pm

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it's vedith being vedith

\o/
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Post Post #7183 (isolation #426) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:31 pm

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VOTE: liger
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Post Post #7203 (isolation #427) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:35 pm

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In post 7186, Dannflor wrote:
In post 7184, Creature wrote:So relaxing to play mafia with spotify on and a baby screaming higher than the volume I can set it on.
im playing factorio with siblings yelling in the background
hey

play factorio with me
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Post Post #7500 (isolation #428) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:17 pm

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Seriously?

Another 8 pages?
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Post Post #7501 (isolation #429) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:18 pm

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In post 7496, Enter wrote:ank ur innocent bystander is fish dood trying to pocket me?
I think fish is just as sick of this game as the rest of us regardless of alignment
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Post Post #7502 (isolation #430) » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:18 pm

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VOTE: FormerFish
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Post Post #7515 (isolation #431) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:29 am

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In post 7511, Formerfish wrote:That was a hammer right?

Thank God. I really need to read the slot I'm going to be replacing from now on. And I should probably read the game set up as well. I was fully expecting to have more wrinkles I could attempt to hide behind.

It fucking sucks that my partner couldn't figure out a way to even try and defend me. Thanks for hanging me out to dry, I hope the towncred was worth it.
Dann/or/Jingle wins the game I'm pretty sure
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Post Post #7549 (isolation #432) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:14 am

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I really think you guys are just false clearing associations
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Post Post #7551 (isolation #433) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:15 am

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I'll obviously double check tomorrow but I strongly doubt the last scum is outside of those three names.
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Post Post #7553 (isolation #434) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:16 am

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Anything outside of d1 is probably close to useless for associative value ftr
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Post Post #7555 (isolation #435) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:17 am

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Keep in mind that the lynchpools have been mostly static from day to day, you don't need to be too careful what you're doing when town is death tunneled on their pocket lynches for the day
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Post Post #7557 (isolation #436) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:17 am

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Literally all you have to do is not stand out and you can push your partner all you want
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Post Post #7560 (isolation #437) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:26 am

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I don't ISO unless I have something very specific I'm looking for

my reads often get worse the more I just look into what people are doing directly
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Post Post #7563 (isolation #438) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:28 am

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like

legitimately, enter

do you think scum would be more likely to try faking associatives or their effect on the gamestate
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Post Post #7567 (isolation #439) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:32 am

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only thing I'm weirded out about is that I really do think Jingle would be better than to let Alisae like... blatantly do the most scummy things consistently for eir entire time in the game
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Post Post #7568 (isolation #440) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:32 am

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we can discuss it tomorrow then

I'm not in a good headspace for engagements atm
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Post Post #7573 (isolation #441) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:59 am

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no, but he'd probably try to mitigate or make alisae aware of it
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Post Post #7594 (isolation #442) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:10 am

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probably the dead thread continuously headdesking themselves to death
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Post Post #7597 (isolation #443) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:15 am

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I wonder how different the game would be if shoshin was still here and whatever the hell happened during the day 2 I didn't read didn't happen
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Post Post #7599 (isolation #444) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:16 am

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why

that's such a dumb reason
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Post Post #7603 (isolation #445) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:17 am

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jingle you've failed me.
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Post Post #7605 (isolation #446) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:18 am

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VOTE: Ankamius
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Post Post #7607 (isolation #447) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:21 am

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no you don't
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Post Post #7609 (isolation #448) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:22 am

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:V
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Post Post #7625 (isolation #449) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:29 am

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did we win yet?
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Post Post #7626 (isolation #450) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:29 am

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In post 7623, Jingle wrote:VOTE: Self

I've heard that self is probably scum.

Also, I kinda want to make a hydra with Enter named Self, to ensure he can't stop Self voting.
ngl I wanted to make an account similar to "or"
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Post Post #7633 (isolation #451) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:31 am

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In post 7632, Enter wrote:
In post 7628, Jingle wrote:Also, we haven't primed anyone cause we're just that good. And also I accidentally primed RC N1. But mostly the former.
if RC is ignited and flips scum, it guarantees you're the other scum because of 8ball
wasn't that an alisae thing?
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Post Post #7638 (isolation #452) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:32 am

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naught
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Post Post #7640 (isolation #453) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:32 am

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I remember seeing that said about alisae a long while back but idr where or by whom
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Post Post #7643 (isolation #454) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:33 am

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I can't believe enter might actually end up having the top two spots in the activity overview

wtf
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Post Post #7646 (isolation #455) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:34 am

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In post 7644, Jingle wrote:
In post 7641, Enter wrote:sounds like someone doesn't want responsibility
Wait, you want responsibility? I wish I could just go through life with absolutely no responsibility. That would be the best.
secret alts help
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Post Post #7652 (isolation #456) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:36 am

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funny thing

my secret alts all get scumread for no reason more than my main
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Post Post #7656 (isolation #457) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:39 am

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In post 7654, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 7652, Ankamius wrote:funny thing

my secret alts all get scumread for no reason more than my main
That begs the question whether it's for no reason :?
are my thought processes really that scummy sounding :(
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Post Post #7660 (isolation #458) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:41 am

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In post 7657, Enter wrote:roses are red
thanos is thicc
now's your chance antman
get up there quick
ROSE is RED
VIOLET is BLUE
FLAG is WIN
BABA is YOU
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Post Post #7665 (isolation #459) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:44 am

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nice image
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Post Post #7677 (isolation #460) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:47 am

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In post 7664, RadiantCowbells wrote:ROSE is RED
LAMB is YOU
MY LOVE is YOU
Do you love me too?
SEAL is YOU
HEART is TRUE
LAMB is FREE
LOVE is BE
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Post Post #7682 (isolation #461) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:48 am

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In post 7674, Dannflor wrote:
In post 7658, Enter wrote:i don't think anyone is anywhere near as good at sounding scummy as dannflor is
i resent that
if it helps

I'm the queen of the "I KNOW YOU'RE TOWN BUT I HATE THAT YOUR TOWN" reads
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Post Post #7686 (isolation #462) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:49 am

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In post 7680, Jingle wrote:
In post 7677, Ankamius wrote:
In post 7664, RadiantCowbells wrote:ROSE is RED
LAMB is YOU
MY LOVE is YOU
Do you love me too?
SEAL is YOU
HEART is TRUE
LAMB is FREE
LOVE is BE
I believe that Ank's language center of the brain has received severe damage. Please advise.
ERROR: 404

"language.exe not found."
"please contact manufacturer for further instructions."
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Post Post #7689 (isolation #463) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:49 am

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oh we can accelerate night?
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Post Post #7695 (isolation #464) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:50 am

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I mean I'm the subject of those reads not the giver
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Post Post #7702 (isolation #465) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:52 am

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refer to my signature for further details
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Post Post #7707 (isolation #466) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:53 am

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In post 7704, Dannflor wrote:ank I think you're town and I don't hate that you're town

if that helps
:3

I feel fuzzy inside
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Post Post #7710 (isolation #467) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:54 am

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I've never lost a game where I rolled scum and endgamed
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Post Post #7714 (isolation #468) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:55 am

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In post 7712, Dannflor wrote:I've never lost a game where I've won
we can fix that
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Post Post #7718 (isolation #469) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:56 am

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don't we all
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Post Post #7723 (isolation #470) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:56 am

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In post 7722, Dannflor wrote:
In post 7720, Enter wrote:i will
excommunicate u
hot
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Post Post #7728 (isolation #471) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:58 am

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how many people are going to read through all these posts
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Post Post #7731 (isolation #472) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:00 am

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it really shows enter
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Post Post #7738 (isolation #473) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:02 am

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you have probably 1/3 to 1/2 of today's posts :V
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Post Post #7741 (isolation #474) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:04 am

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this game is a chore at this point
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Post Post #7743 (isolation #475) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:06 am

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yup

it nerfs me more than I thought it would
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Post Post #7763 (isolation #476) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:21 am

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In post 7754, Enter wrote:
In post 7753, Dannflor wrote:
In post 7750, Enter wrote:It feels good to know that all I have to do to win is ignite Dannflor and then replace in on Eagle after getting a few more posts on this account/
you wouldnt kill someone this cute
i would if it wins me the game

also u know that cute doesn't do anything to me

i'm stronger than that
you couldn't kill me

...right? :(
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Post Post #7777 (isolation #477) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:32 am

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you'll have your chance to lynch me tomorrow enter
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Post Post #7797 (isolation #478) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:25 pm

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ask or? why they chose or? as a name, enter
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Post Post #7804 (isolation #479) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:13 pm

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but I can see it just fine :V

wait...

oh.
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Post Post #7805 (isolation #480) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:13 pm

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oops
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Post Post #7808 (isolation #481) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:19 pm

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do you think they'll fall for the vedith + or + dannflor + creature ignite?
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Post Post #7831 (isolation #482) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:20 pm

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Akarin let's have a chat when we are both around
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Post Post #7834 (isolation #483) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:26 pm

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how important is day 3 to the game RC

do you think scum were on the BuJ wagon?
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Post Post #7836 (isolation #484) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:35 pm

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It happened really fast over the course of 8ish hours ,

I could see scum trying to continue pushing that after I went to bed in a L0 scum world
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Post Post #7837 (isolation #485) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:41 pm

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I'll relook when I have time to

I think it would probably be more productive looking for town than scum
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Post Post #7839 (isolation #486) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:47 pm

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do you believe my town reads are wrong?
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Post Post #7841 (isolation #487) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:51 pm

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Currently Enter/Jingle/Creature/Dann
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Post Post #7854 (isolation #488) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:17 am

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I'll be around in a few hours my dear
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Post Post #7862 (isolation #489) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:22 am

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you say that like the game's already over jingle
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Post Post #7863 (isolation #490) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:38 am

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In post 7853, Akarin wrote:
In post 7831, Ankamius wrote:Akarin let's have a chat when we are both around
I'm around, reading the 2 pages since day start now, haven't read the rest of the game but read grapes ISO during the night, didn't like Xtoxm based on that.
I've been trying to spend the last couple game days or so trying to get locktown reads

Enter took Nancy's spot for the single most obvtown performance I've ever seen this game

Creature is locktown mainly because he tripped a tell I have on him that strongly indicates town, plus general protown play

Jingle is town because the way he's been playing this game makes no sense from scum!jingle (especially his lack of fucks when put into the spotlight again, only to continue once again giving no fucks after the dust settles); I think I've seen enough of his scumplay to understand that he wouldn't play like this as scum (and FA was town before replacing out)

Dann is town because I believe I've seen enough of his personality over discord to have a read on how his towngame and scumgame would differ, and this really doesn't look different from merchant's daughter in those specific ways

Reiuji Utsuho slot is a stale townread from like day 1-2 stuff, I feel like I saw a reason to townread her again recently but fucked if I know what it was anymore
RadiantCowbells is a stale townread from like... day 1, I thought his day 1 was really town but after that I sort of stopped paying attention to him unless he was making moves
Xtoxm I'm conflicted about; he was a strong townread of mine back towards day 2 but that's... sort of been dropped since he hasn't done a whole lot that looks town since
Vedith I felt was strongly town back on day 3, but that's sort of worn off

or/maxwellpuckett/ligerslot are the three slots I've never really townread but I'm not sure if I scumread them either?

I thought I'd get a good sense of max by now but he's... fallen to the wayside, but I also don't think he'd be scum with either of the other two slots in that PoE based on how he's been posting throughout the game, I suspect that scum!max would've already been killed by now if for no other reason than to get the last scum into a good spot
or has been mostly floating
liger_zero was snarky as fuck and really the only slot I could see being scum with another 'inevitable mislynch' player due to his higher will to live... which is the problem, he's the only one.

so I'm trying to figure out which slot I'm incorrectly townreading; I'm kinda leaning towards Reiuji-slot but it's not really a confident read
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Post Post #7869 (isolation #491) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:06 am

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I don't take replace outs as AI
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Post Post #7872 (isolation #492) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:13 am

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grapes was a big reason why I pushed for BuJ so heavily towards the end of day 3, actually
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Post Post #7873 (isolation #493) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:15 am

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In post 3853, Ankamius wrote:Look back to where Shoshin/DT were the primary wagons.

BuJ was on the Shoshin wagon first, and grapes hopped onto the wagon later with awkward justification tacked on. He didn't want to look opportunistic with hopping on that wagon since he had to have known that if that had gone through, the wagon would have been put under a microscope by the rest of the town and his vote would stick out like a sore thumb otherwise.

I assume grapes panicked when the BuJ wagon started up, because his vote on there was much more aggressive and 'emotional' than the rest of his posting.

grapes then vanished from the thread and held his vote on the BuJ wagon, which was relatively safe to do since it wasn't really moving and worst case, he'd look better if it DID start gaining traction towards a lynch because of how aggressive he was.

grapes pretty blatantly panicked when the wagon on him started, the post he made trying to attack eagle is proof enough of that.

Finally, BuJ's vote on grapes had that same weird justification, like he was more worried about how he appeared after the vote than actually lynching a scumread.
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Post Post #7874 (isolation #494) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:16 am

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I feel really dirty realizing that there's been over 4000 posts since day three
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Post Post #7876 (isolation #495) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:25 am

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In post 3946, Liger_Zero wrote:Want a hug?
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Post Post #7997 (isolation #496) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:53 pm

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is the game really this simple and I'm just chasing phantoms
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Post Post #7999 (isolation #497) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:56 pm

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you're going to love what happens next
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Post Post #8004 (isolation #498) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:11 pm

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In post 8000, Dannflor wrote:i hate that we have to relive all of this
I'm getting ptsd flashbacks
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Post Post #8008 (isolation #499) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:15 pm

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In post 8007, Jingle wrote:
In post 7999, Ankamius wrote:you're going to love what happens next
Rocks fall, everyone dies?
I wish
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Post Post #8011 (isolation #500) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:21 pm

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-_-
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Post Post #8014 (isolation #501) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:28 pm

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oh

I thought you were referring to this game specifically
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Post Post #8023 (isolation #502) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:11 pm

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Can you convince me on more of your town reads tohru
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Post Post #8026 (isolation #503) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:38 am

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uhhhhhh lemme look back through my iso and see if I can find out why
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Post Post #8027 (isolation #504) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:41 am

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In post 2999, Ankamius wrote:even without knowing Shoshin is town already, she looks a lot more town to me than DT does

but in the moment where that was current, emotions were high enough that it looked flipped

Xtoxm voting for DT instead of going along with the Shoshin wagon has a much better look in hindsight with that scenario in mind (as a reference, grapes voted the shoshin wagon afterwards with a really sketchy justification)
In post 2569, Ankamius wrote:
In post 312, Shoshin wrote:All of you haters need to break out your boxes. Self-voting doesn’t mean anything bad will happen.

VOTE: Doubting

See? No harm done.

To be clear, I voted myself to get a wagon going. It wasn't "AtE" or because I was "scumread." It was to consolidate votes.
this was... really town
In post 315, DoubtingThomas wrote:it would have looked townier if you said something like, "stfu DT I fucking hate you. I self voted myself because I don't want to play with you" but okay

good luck trying to lynch me Mrs. Self Voter
this response, out of all of them, was the least town

Xtoxm's was very town
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Post Post #8028 (isolation #505) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 7:47 am

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I think it was Vedith's reads list?

I don't remember enough about the context behind what was going on back then to remember why exactly I thought that was town

shrug
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Post Post #8032 (isolation #506) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:08 pm

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oh hey this is a game
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Post Post #8039 (isolation #507) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:47 pm

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She was talking about my d3 read on you
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Post Post #8059 (isolation #508) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:00 am

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Dann is town guys
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Post Post #8071 (isolation #509) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:21 am

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are you saying you dislike most of us psyche
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Post Post #8090 (isolation #510) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:44 am

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shrug

VOTE: or
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Post Post #8094 (isolation #511) » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:49 am

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ngl my motivation is already pretty burnt out again

I just want the game to be over at this point
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Post Post #8150 (isolation #512) » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:28 am

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Do you believe my solving is fake Vedith?
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Post Post #8152 (isolation #513) » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:34 am

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okay

then why do you think I'm the deepwolf when I literally said the exact same thing you just did about the poe earlier today
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Post Post #8156 (isolation #514) » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:46 am

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In post 8144, or wrote:where their whole interaction about jingle's activity level is just theatre so jingle can continue to coast
you drastically overestimate my scum game if you think I'd be making the plays with Jingle as my partner.
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Post Post #8180 (isolation #515) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:15 am

Post by Ankamius »

does anyone want me to post color coded VCs in the main thread

I'm finally getting around to doing it
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Post Post #8183 (isolation #516) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:29 am

Post by Ankamius »

Spoiler:
In post 190, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.1
Akarin(4) ~ Jingle(19),
Formerfish
(11), Dannflor(41),
Fuscosco
(5)
Formerfish
(2) ~
NerfedBuJ
(4), Saudade(3)
Vedith(1) ~ Akarin(33)
Fuscosco
(1) ~ Ankamius(8)
mcqueen
(1) ~
or
(8)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(1)
Psyche(1) ~ RadiantCowbells(9)


Not Voting (6): Psyche(15), MaxwellPuckett(6), Vedith(23),
grapes
(0), Xtoxm(1), Tohru(0)
In post 233, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.2
Akarin(2) ~ Jingle(23),
Fuscosco
(5)
Formerfish
(2) ~
NerfedBuJ
(4), Dannflor(42)
Xtoxm(1) ~
or
(9)
Vedith(1) ~ Akarin(39)
Fuscosco
(1) ~ Ankamius(10)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(1)
Psyche(1) ~ RadiantCowbells(9)
Dannflor(1) ~ Saudade(13)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~
Formerfish
(28)


Not Voting (6): Psyche(15), MaxwellPuckett(6), Vedith(23),
grapes
(1), Xtoxm(1), Tohru(0)
In post 280, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.3
Formerfish
(3) ~
NerfedBuJ
(4), Dannflor(49),
Fuscosco
(18)
Xtoxm(1) ~
or
(9)
Vedith(1) ~ Akarin(48)
Fuscosco
(1) ~ Ankamius(10)
NerfedBuJ
(1) ~
grapes
(3)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(1)
Psyche(1) ~ RadiantCowbells(9)
Akarin(1) ~ Jingle(23)
Dannflor(1) ~ Saudade(13)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~
Formerfish
(31)


Not Voting (5): Psyche(15), MaxwellPuckett(6), Vedith(23), Xtoxm(9), Tohru(3)
In post 305, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.4
Fuscosco
(5) ~ Ankamius(10),
NerfedBuJ
(5), Dannflor(59),
Fuscosco
(21), Xtoxm(10)
Xtoxm(1) ~
or
(9)
Vedith(1) ~ Akarin(55)
NerfedBuJ
(1) ~
grapes
(3)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(1)
Psyche(1) ~ RadiantCowbells(9)
Akarin(1) ~ Jingle(23)
Dannflor(1) ~ Saudade(13)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~
Formerfish
(31)


Not Voting (4): Psyche(15), MaxwellPuckett(6), Vedith(23), Tohru(3)
In post 333, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.5
Fuscosco
(3) ~ Ankamius(10),
NerfedBuJ
(8), Dannflor(68)
Dannflor(3) ~ Saudade(13),
Fuscosco
(28), Xtoxm(13)
Xtoxm(1) ~
or
(9)
Vedith(1) ~ Akarin(61)
NerfedBuJ
(1) ~
grapes
(3)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(1)
Psyche(1) ~ RadiantCowbells(9)
Akarin(1) ~ Jingle(23)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~
Formerfish
(32)


Not Voting (4): Psyche(15), MaxwellPuckett(6), Vedith(23), Tohru(4)
In post 350, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.6
Fuscosco
(3) ~ Ankamius(10),
NerfedBuJ
(8), Dannflor(70)
Dannflor(3) ~ Saudade(13),
Fuscosco
(33), Xtoxm(13)
Xtoxm(1) ~
or
(9)
Vedith(1) ~ Akarin(65)
NerfedBuJ
(1) ~
grapes
(3)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(1)
Psyche(1) ~ RadiantCowbells(9)
Akarin(1) ~ Jingle(23)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~
Formerfish
(32)


Not Voting (4): Psyche(15), MaxwellPuckett(6), Vedith(24), Tohru(7)
In post 401, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.7
Fuscosco
(4) ~ Ankamius(10),
NerfedBuJ
(9), Dannflor(70),
grapes
(5)
Dannflor(3) ~ Saudade(17),
Fuscosco
(45), Xtoxm(15)
Xtoxm(1) ~
or
(15)
Vedith(1) ~ Akarin(78)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(1)
Psyche(1) ~ RadiantCowbells(10)
Akarin(1) ~ Jingle(23)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~
Formerfish
(32)


Not Voting (4): Psyche(15), MaxwellPuckett(6), Vedith(32), Tohru(8)
In post 657, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.8
Fuscosco
(4) ~ Ankamius(10),
NerfedBuJ
(13), Dannflor(88), Jingle(69)
Xtoxm(2) ~
or
(24),
Fuscosco
(79)
NerfedBuJ
(2) ~ Vedith(73),
grapes
(16)
Dannflor(2) ~ Xtoxm(16),
Formerfish
(76)
Vedith(1) ~ Akarin(90)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(1)
Psyche(1) ~ RadiantCowbells(14)


Not Voting (4): Psyche(15), Saudade(36), MaxwellPuckett(9), Tohru(16)
In post 705, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.9
Fuscosco
(4) ~ Ankamius(10),
NerfedBuJ
(13), Dannflor(88), Jingle(85)
NerfedBuJ
(4) ~ Vedith(75),
or
(26),
grapes
(16),
Fuscosco
(83)
Dannflor(2) ~ Xtoxm(16),
Formerfish
(86)
Vedith(1) ~ Akarin(98)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(1)
Psyche(1) ~ RadiantCowbells(14)


Not Voting (4): Psyche(15), Saudade(37), MaxwellPuckett(9), Tohru(19)
In post 726, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.10
NerfedBuJ
(4) ~ Vedith(75),
or
(26),
grapes
(16),
Fuscosco
(84)
Fuscosco
(3) ~ Ankamius(10),
NerfedBuJ
(13), Dannflor(93)
RadiantCowbells(2) ~ Jingle(92), Akarin(103)
Dannflor(2) ~ Xtoxm(16),
Formerfish
(88)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(1)
Psyche(1) ~ RadiantCowbells(14)


Not Voting (4): Psyche(15), Saudade(37), MaxwellPuckett(9), Tohru(19)
In post 750, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.11
NerfedBuJ
(4) ~ Vedith(75),
or
(26),
grapes
(16),
Fuscosco
(84)
Fuscosco
(2) ~ Ankamius(10),
NerfedBuJ
(13)
RadiantCowbells(2) ~ Jingle(92), Akarin(104)
Dannflor(2) ~ Xtoxm(17),
Formerfish
(95)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(1)
Psyche(1) ~ RadiantCowbells(14)
Formerfish
(1) ~ Dannflor(106)


Not Voting (4): Psyche(15), Saudade(37), MaxwellPuckett(9), Tohru(19)
In post 781, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.12
NerfedBuJ
(4) ~ Vedith(83),
or
(26),
grapes
(16),
Fuscosco
(91)
Fuscosco
(2) ~ Ankamius(10),
NerfedBuJ
(20)
RadiantCowbells(2) ~ Jingle(92), Akarin(111)
Dannflor(2) ~ Xtoxm(18),
Formerfish
(95)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(1)
Psyche(1) ~ RadiantCowbells(14)
Formerfish
(1) ~ Dannflor(106)


Not Voting (4): Psyche(15), Saudade(37), MaxwellPuckett(9), Tohru(19)
In post 939, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.13
NerfedBuJ
(4) ~ Vedith(84),
or
(37),
grapes
(16),
Fuscosco
(102)
Fuscosco
(2) ~ Ankamius(10),
NerfedBuJ
(27)
RadiantCowbells(2) ~ Jingle(125), Akarin(161)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(4)
Psyche(1) ~ RadiantCowbells(14)
Akarin(1) ~
Formerfish
(103)
Dannflor(1) ~ Xtoxm(18)
Formerfish
(1) ~ Dannflor(118)


Not Voting (4): Psyche(18), Saudade(47), MaxwellPuckett(10), Tohru(26)
In post 960, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.14
NerfedBuJ
(3) ~ Vedith(84),
or
(37),
grapes
(16)
Fuscosco
(2) ~ Ankamius(10),
NerfedBuJ
(32)
Akarin(2) ~
Formerfish
(103),
Fuscosco
(107)
Vedith(1) ~ Akarin(171)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Jingle(125)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(4)
Psyche(1) ~ RadiantCowbells(14)
Dannflor(1) ~ Xtoxm(18)
Formerfish
(1) ~ Dannflor(118)


Not Voting (4): Psyche(18), Saudade(47), MaxwellPuckett(10), Tohru(26)
In post 1275, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.15
Fuscosco
(3) ~ Ankamius(18),
NerfedBuJ
(34), MaxwellPuckett(12)
NerfedBuJ
(3) ~ Vedith(85),
or
(38),
grapes
(19)
RadiantCowbells(2) ~ Jingle(159), Xtoxm(21)
grapes
(2) ~ RadiantCowbells(110),
Formerfish
(135)
MaxwellPuckett(2) ~ Saudade(62), Akarin(213)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(16)
Dannflor(1) ~
Fuscosco
(139)
Formerfish
(1) ~ Dannflor(147)


Not Voting (2): Psyche(18), Tohru(26)
In post 1312, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.16
Fuscosco
(3) ~ Ankamius(18),
NerfedBuJ
(34), MaxwellPuckett(12)
NerfedBuJ
(3) ~ Vedith(85),
or
(38),
grapes
(19)
RadiantCowbells(2) ~ Jingle(159), Xtoxm(21)
grapes
(2) ~ Saudade(67), Akarin(222)
MaxwellPuckett(2) ~ RadiantCowbells(119),
Formerfish
(140)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(16)
Dannflor(1) ~
Fuscosco
(148)
Formerfish
(1) ~ Dannflor(147)


Not Voting (2): Psyche(18), Tohru(26)
In post 1333, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.17
grapes
(5) ~ Saudade(67), Akarin(227), RadiantCowbells(125), Jingle(163),
Formerfish
(141)
Fuscosco
(3) ~ Ankamius(18),
NerfedBuJ
(34), MaxwellPuckett(12)
NerfedBuJ
(3) ~ Vedith(85),
or
(38),
grapes
(19)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Xtoxm(21)
Ankamius(1) ~
mcqueen
(16)
Dannflor(1) ~
Fuscosco
(152)
Formerfish
(1) ~ Dannflor(147)


Not Voting (2): Psyche(18), Tohru(26)
In post 1361, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.18
grapes
(6) ~ Saudade(68), Akarin(229), RadiantCowbells(131), Jingle(163),
Formerfish
(144),
Fuscosco
(156)
Fuscosco
(3) ~ Ankamius(20),
NerfedBuJ
(34), MaxwellPuckett(12)
NerfedBuJ
(2) ~ Vedith(85),
or
(40)
Saudade(1) ~
mcqueen
(19)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Xtoxm(21)
Akarin(1) ~
grapes
(20)


Not Voting (3): Psyche(18), Dannflor(149), Tohru(26)
In post 1404, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.19
grapes
(7) ~ Saudade(73), Akarin(232), RadiantCowbells(135), Jingle(163),
Formerfish
(145),
Fuscosco
(163),
NerfedBuJ
(41)
Fuscosco
(2) ~ Ankamius(20), MaxwellPuckett(12)
NerfedBuJ
(2) ~ Vedith(88),
or
(46)
Saudade(1) ~
mcqueen
(22)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Xtoxm(21)
Akarin(1) ~
grapes
(21)


Not Voting (3): Psyche(18), Dannflor(151), Tohru(26)
In post 1432, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.FINAL
grapes
(9) ~ Saudade(73), Akarin(233), RadiantCowbells(135), Jingle(165),
Formerfish
(145),
Fuscosco
(165),
NerfedBuJ
(43), MaxwellPuckett(13), Ankamius(25) -- HAMMER
NerfedBuJ
(2) ~ Vedith(90),
or
(47)
Saudade(1) ~
mcqueen
(22)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Xtoxm(21)
Akarin(1) ~
grapes
(21)


Not Voting (3): Psyche(18), Dannflor(155), Tohru(33)
In post 1465, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 2.1
Tohru(1) ~
mcqueen
(2)
or
(1) ~ Jingle(3)
Formerfish
(1) ~ Ankamius(1)


Not Voting (13):
Fuscosco
(1), Psyche(0),
Formerfish
(7), Saudade(5), Dannflor(0),
NerfedBuJ
(0), MaxwellPuckett(0), Akarin(2),
or
(0), Vedith(6), RadiantCowbells(2), Xtoxm(0), Tohru(0)
In post 1552, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 2.2
Formerfish
(4) ~ Ankamius(2),
mcqueen
(3), Akarin(10),
NerfedBuJ
(1)
Ankamius(2) ~
Formerfish
(13),
Fuscosco
(6)
or
(1) ~ Dannflor(26)
Dannflor(1) ~ Jingle(20)


Not Voting (8): Psyche(0), Saudade(6), MaxwellPuckett(0),
or
(7), Vedith(8), RadiantCowbells(6), Xtoxm(0), Tohru(7)
In post 1768, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 2.3
Fuscosco
(5) ~ RadiantCowbells(47), Jingle(50), Dannflor(53),
Formerfish
(41), Saudade(17)
Formerfish
(4) ~ Ankamius(5),
mcqueen
(5), Akarin(52),
NerfedBuJ
(3)
Ankamius(2) ~
Fuscosco
(17), Vedith(15)
Vedith(1) ~
or
(16)


Not Voting (4): Psyche(0), MaxwellPuckett(0), Xtoxm(0), Tohru(9)
In post 2103, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 2.4
Fuscosco
(6) ~ Jingle(96), Akarin(73),
Formerfish
(70), Saudade(48), RadiantCowbells(98), Dannflor(98)
Jingle(2) ~
Fuscosco
(92), Vedith(25)
Formerfish
(2) ~
mcqueen
(6),
NerfedBuJ
(9)
Vedith(1) ~
or
(18)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Xtoxm(9)
Dannflor(1) ~ Ankamius(11)


Not Voting (3): Psyche(0), MaxwellPuckett(0), Tohru(11)
In post 2214, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 2.5
Fuscosco
(4) ~
Formerfish
(79), Saudade(61), RadiantCowbells(124), Dannflor(107)
Vedith(2) ~
or
(18), Jingle(107)
Jingle(2) ~
Fuscosco
(92), Vedith(41)
Formerfish
(2) ~
mcqueen
(6),
NerfedBuJ
(9)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Xtoxm(9)
Dannflor(1) ~ Ankamius(23)


Not Voting (4): Psyche(0), MaxwellPuckett(0), Akarin(82), Tohru(11)
In post 2353, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 2.6
Fuscosco
(6) ~
Formerfish
(87), Saudade(82), Dannflor(117),
NerfedBuJ
(23), Akarin(112), Psyche(4)
Jingle(2) ~
Fuscosco
(97), Vedith(57)
Vedith(1) ~ Jingle(108)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Xtoxm(10)
Dannflor(1) ~ Ankamius(34)
Formerfish
(1) ~
mcqueen
(6)


Not Voting (4): MaxwellPuckett(0),
or
(21), RadiantCowbells(140), Tohru(11)
In post 2445, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 2.FINAL
Fuscosco
(9) ~
Formerfish
(101), Saudade(86), Dannflor(117),
NerfedBuJ
(23), Akarin(133), Psyche(8), Jingle(111), RadiantCowbells(146), Ankamius(47) -- HAMMER
Jingle(2) ~
Fuscosco
(117), Vedith(58)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Xtoxm(10)
Formerfish
(1) ~
mcqueen
(6)


Not Voting (4): MaxwellPuckett(0),
or
(21), Tohru(14), Psyche(4)
In post 2512, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 3.1
Jingle(2) ~
or
(9), Vedith(4)
or
(2) ~ Saudade(11), Jingle(4)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~
Formerfish
(13)


Not Voting (10): Ankamius(2), Psyche(0), Dannflor(0),
NerfedBuJ
(0), MaxwellPuckett(0), Akarin(2), RadiantCowbells(14),
mcqueen
(0), Xtoxm(1), Tohru(0)
In post 2551, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 3.2
or
(2) ~ Saudade(19), Jingle(6)
Ankamius(2) ~
or
(19), Dannflor(3)
Vedith(1) ~ Psyche(2)
Jingle(1) ~ Vedith(4)


Not Voting (10): Ankamius(9),
Formerfish
(14),
NerfedBuJ
(2), MaxwellPuckett(0), Akarin(3), RadiantCowbells(18),
mcqueen
(0), Xtoxm(1), Tohru(0)
In post 2734, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 3.3
Vedith(3) ~ Psyche(33),
NerfedBuJ
(7), RadiantCowbells(22)
Ankamius(2) ~
or
(30), Dannflor(10)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~ Saudade(35)
Jingle(1) ~ Vedith(9)
or
(1) ~ Jingle(23)


Not Voting (7): Ankamius(42),
Formerfish
(19), MaxwellPuckett(15), Akarin(31),
mcqueen
(5), Xtoxm(1), Tohru(0)
In post 2932, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 3.4
Vedith(3) ~ Psyche(45),
NerfedBuJ
(9), RadiantCowbells(25)
Ankamius(3) ~
or
(41), Tohru(85), Dannflor(30)
Xtoxm(1) ~
mcqueen
(11)
mcqueen
(1) ~ MaxwellPuckett(27)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~ Saudade(38)
Jingle(1) ~ Vedith(14)
or
(1) ~ Jingle(38)


Not Voting (4): Ankamius(47),
Formerfish
(20), Akarin(37), Xtoxm(12)
In post 3155, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 3.5
Xtoxm(4) ~
mcqueen
(19), RadiantCowbells(65), Vedith(18), Jingle(77)
Ankamius(3) ~ Tohru(85), Dannflor(30),
or
(66)
Vedith(2) ~ Psyche(52),
NerfedBuJ
(21)
Dannflor(2) ~ Akarin(65), Ankamius(67)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Xtoxm(13)
mcqueen
(1) ~ MaxwellPuckett(33)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~ Saudade(54)
or
(1) ~
Formerfish
(32)


Not Voting (0):
In post 3257, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 3.6
Xtoxm(3) ~
mcqueen
(19), Vedith(18), RadiantCowbells(85)
Dannflor(3) ~ Akarin(68), Ankamius(73), MaxwellPuckett(46)
Ankamius(3) ~ Tohru(87), Dannflor(31),
or
(88)
Vedith(2) ~ Psyche(60),
NerfedBuJ
(21)
or
(2) ~
Formerfish
(39), Jingle(87)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Xtoxm(21)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~ Saudade(57)


Not Voting (0):
In post 3760, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 3.7
Psyche(5) ~ Saudade(85), MaxwellPuckett(68), Akarin(197),
or
(98), Dannflor(93)
Xtoxm(3) ~
mcqueen
(25), Vedith(49), RadiantCowbells(128)
Vedith(1) ~
NerfedBuJ
(38)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Xtoxm(47)
NerfedBuJ
(1) ~ Ankamius(143)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~ Psyche(106)
or
(1) ~ Jingle(90)
Ankamius(1) ~ Tohru(88)


Not Voting (1):
Formerfish
(46)
In post 3960, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 3.8
Psyche(7) ~ Saudade(87), MaxwellPuckett(68), Akarin(220),
or
(100),
NerfedBuJ
(48), Ankamius(169),
Formerfish
(47)
Xtoxm(5) ~
mcqueen
(26), Vedith(66), RadiantCowbells(148), Jingle(95), Dannflor(134)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Xtoxm(49)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~ Psyche(155)
Ankamius(1) ~ Tohru(88)


Not Voting (0):
In post 4105, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 3.9
NerfedBuJ
(5) ~ Ankamius(197), Dannflor(157),
or
(106),
Formerfish
(54), Jingle(100)
Psyche(3) ~ MaxwellPuckett(68),
NerfedBuJ
(51), Akarin(232)
Xtoxm(2) ~ Vedith(66), RadiantCowbells(151)
Formerfish
(1) ~
mcqueen
(39)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Xtoxm(52)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~ Psyche(184)
Ankamius(1) ~ Tohru(88)


Not Voting (1): Saudade(96)
In post 4203, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 3.10
NerfedBuJ
(6) ~ Ankamius(197), Dannflor(163),
or
(106),
Formerfish
(54), Jingle(100), Psyche(202)
Psyche(3) ~ MaxwellPuckett(72),
NerfedBuJ
(51), Akarin(268)
Xtoxm(2) ~ Vedith(66), RadiantCowbells(151)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Xtoxm(52)
Akarin(1) ~
mcqueen
(61)
Ankamius(1) ~ Tohru(88)


Not Voting (1): Saudade(108)
In post 4263, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 3.FINAL
NerfedBuJ
(8) ~ Ankamius(197), Dannflor(167),
or
(106),
Formerfish
(54), Jingle(100), Psyche(212), Akarin(280),
mcqueen
(71) -- HAMMER
Xtoxm(2) ~ Vedith(66), RadiantCowbells(151)
Psyche(2) ~ MaxwellPuckett(80),
NerfedBuJ
(51)
RadiantCowbells(1) ~ Xtoxm(52)
Ankamius(1) ~ Tohru(88)


Not Voting (1): Saudade(111)
In post 4275, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 4.0
mcqueen
(1) ~ Akarin(2)


Not Voting (13): Ankamius(0), Psyche(0),
Formerfish
(0), Saudade(0), Dannflor(2), MaxwellPuckett(0), Jingle(0),
or
(0), Vedith(0), RadiantCowbells(1),
mcqueen
(0), Xtoxm(0), Tohru(0)
In post 4478, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 4.1
Psyche(4) ~ RadiantCowbells(27), Saudade(11), Akarin(47), Vedith(4)
Saudade(1) ~ Psyche(62)
mcqueen
(1) ~ Dannflor(40)


Not Voting (8): Ankamius(3),
Formerfish
(1), MaxwellPuckett(11), Jingle(0),
or
(0),
mcqueen
(3), Xtoxm(1), Tohru(0)
In post 4702, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 4.2
Psyche(2) ~ Vedith(4), Jingle(1)
mcqueen
(1) ~ Akarin(76)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~
or
(12)


Not Voting (10):
Formerfish
(1), Saudade(15), MaxwellPuckett(11),
mcqueen
(16), Xtoxm(6), Tohru(0), RadiantCowbells(72), Psyche(99), Dannflor(65), Ankamius(51)
In post 4810, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 4.3
mcqueen
(2) ~ Akarin(98), Dannflor(75)
Psyche(2) ~ Vedith(8), Jingle(6)
Xtoxm(1) ~
mcqueen
(20)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~
or
(12)


Not Voting (8):
Formerfish
(2), Saudade(15), MaxwellPuckett(28), Xtoxm(13), Tohru(0), RadiantCowbells(73), Psyche(136), Ankamius(52)
In post 5408, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 4.4
mcqueen
(5) ~
or
(66), Akarin(197), MaxwellPuckett(64), RadiantCowbells(121), Ankamius(61)
Psyche(2) ~ Vedith(8), Jingle(7)
Xtoxm(1) ~
mcqueen
(50)


Not Voting (6): Psyche(190),
Formerfish
(13), Saudade(37), Dannflor(137), Xtoxm(27), Tohru(76)
In post 5588, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 4.FINAL
mcqueen
(8) ~
or
(68), Akarin(225), MaxwellPuckett(68), RadiantCowbells(129), Ankamius(71), Dannflor(152), Psyche(204), Saudade(45) -- HAMMER
Psyche(2) ~ Vedith(8), Jingle(15)
Xtoxm(1) ~
mcqueen
(74)


Not Voting (3):
Formerfish
(29), Xtoxm(27), Tohru(119)
In post 5862, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 5.1
or
(3) ~ MaxwellPuckett(10), Jingle(43), Psyche(61)
MaxwellPuckett(2) ~ Vedith(19), Saudade(6)
Akarin(1) ~ Xtoxm(10)


Not Voting (7): Ankamius(34),
Formerfish
(0), Dannflor(24), Akarin(55),
or
(0), RadiantCowbells(9), Tohru(0)
In post 6514, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 5.2
or
(4) ~ MaxwellPuckett(13), Jingle(57), Psyche(98), Saudade(24)
Formerfish
(3) ~ Ankamius(91), Tohru(74), Dannflor(156)
MaxwellPuckett(2) ~ Vedith(21),
or
(35)
Psyche(1) ~ RadiantCowbells(68)
Akarin(1) ~ Xtoxm(16)


Not Voting (2):
Formerfish
(35), Akarin(230)
In post 7030, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 5.3
or
(6) ~ MaxwellPuckett(25), Jingle(69), Saudade(52), Akarin(374), RadiantCowbells(100), Dannflor(220)
MaxwellPuckett(2) ~ Vedith(23),
or
(91)
Formerfish
(2) ~ Ankamius(107), Tohru(79)
Akarin(1) ~ Xtoxm(39)
Ankamius(1) ~ Psyche(141)


Not Voting (1):
Formerfish
(111)
In post 7288, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 5.4
Psyche(6) ~ Akarin(430), RadiantCowbells(130), Ankamius(123), Dannflor(239), Vedith(32),
Formerfish
(116)
or
(3) ~ MaxwellPuckett(27), Jingle(69), Saudade(58)
Formerfish
(2) ~ Tohru(149), Psyche(191)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~
or
(91)
Akarin(1) ~ Xtoxm(39)


Not Voting (0):
In post 7816, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 5.FINAL
Formerfish
(7) ~ Tohru(149), Psyche(191), Dannflor(239), RadiantCowbells(130), Saudade(58), Ankamius(123), Akarin(430)
Psyche(2) ~ Vedith(32),
Formerfish
(116)
or
(2) ~ MaxwellPuckett(27), Jingle(69)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~
or
(91)
Akarin(1) ~ Xtoxm(39)


Not Voting (0):
In post 7976, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 6.1
Xtoxm(3) ~ Tohru(31), RadiantCowbells(41), Dannflor(19)
MaxwellPuckett(1) ~
or
(3)


Not Voting (8): Ankamius(14), Psyche(4), Saudade(2), MaxwellPuckett(2), Jingle(23), Akarin(6), Vedith(4), Xtoxm(2)
In post 8166, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 6.FINAL
or
(7) ~ Jingle(48), MaxwellPuckett(8), Tohru(63), RadiantCowbells(54), Dannflor(48),
or
(28), Ankamius(33)
Xtoxm(1) ~ Akarin(12)


Not Voting (4): Psyche(5), Saudade(14), Vedith(23), Xtoxm(2)


here are the raw VCs with confirmed flips

I took the time to update every slot with their current holder since only four slots haven't replaced at this point so hopefully it should make that analysis a bit easier
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Post Post #8188 (isolation #517) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:54 am

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Akarin is town because Enter was town

I'm seeing pretty strong evidence already that Vedith is town
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Post Post #8192 (isolation #518) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:59 am

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note: psyche can ONLY be scum with Dannflor or Jingle
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Post Post #8194 (isolation #519) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:03 am

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scratch that, Dann has been ruled out
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Post Post #8195 (isolation #520) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:05 am

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I think that that list is more strongly correlated to amount of fucks given throughout the game than anything else
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Post Post #8197 (isolation #521) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:10 am

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nope, I've ruled out jingle too

Psyche is town
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Post Post #8198 (isolation #522) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:12 am

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In post 8196, RadiantCowbells wrote:it's correlated to who had scumreads that they believed in and tried to push them. as opposed to who was sitting to the side keeping their hands clean and setting up the later game mislynches (ie me)
tbf Dann/myself/akarin-slot all were blocced together for most of the game

and uh

as three of the five highest posters in the game, that holds a lot of sway over everybody else
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Post Post #8200 (isolation #523) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:14 am

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Saudade/Dannflor/Jingle/RadiantCowbells are {1-2 scum}
Xtoxm/MaxwellPucket/Tohru are {0-1 scum}
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Post Post #8201 (isolation #524) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:17 am

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just based on the flipped slots and the slots I've managed to clear so far, the initial wagons on my slot and Formerfish's slot are not only on town, but they ARE all-town wagons

Then the Shoshin wagon explodes with the four players in the above list and Formerfish-slot

I'm hesitant to call both scum in there mainly because the unresolved slots on and off the wagon are basically segregated by post count (Maxwell/Xtoxm both hadn't posted yet when that initial wagon VC was posted), but it's interesting info to return to with more slots resolved
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Post Post #8202 (isolation #525) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:19 am

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Saudade/MaxwellPuckett have associative equity with Xtoxm/Dannflor from 3.6->3.7
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Post Post #8203 (isolation #526) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:20 am

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really interesting that both were never on the BuJ wagon despite both being town
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Post Post #8204 (isolation #527) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:21 am

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despite both wagonees*
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Post Post #8205 (isolation #528) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:25 am

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In post 8200, Ankamius wrote:Saudade/Dannflor/Jingle/RadiantCowbells are {1-2 scum}
Xtoxm/MaxwellPucket/Tohru are {0-1 scum}
hmmmmmmmmmm

I think Tohru has the least equity out of this list but I'll double check
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Post Post #8208 (isolation #529) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:29 am

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yeah that slot's obvtown
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Post Post #8209 (isolation #530) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:34 am

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Maxwell is ruled out as scum with every slot
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Post Post #8210 (isolation #531) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:39 am

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Saudade is town too!
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Post Post #8211 (isolation #532) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:42 am

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Dannflor + Jingle
Dannflor + RadiantCowbells
Dannflor + Xtoxm
Jingle + RadiantCowbells

Jingle + Xtoxm
RadiantCowbells + Xtoxm
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Post Post #8213 (isolation #533) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:56 am

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VOTE: Dannflor

I'm comfortable with this vote atm

1. Dannflor avoided the grapes wagon
2. Dannflor was on the d1-Shoshin wagon while it was relatively safe to do so, then hopped off after it started to go stale
3. Combined with 2, he stayed on Shoshin a lot longer throughout day 2; I assume that it was a lot safer to do so since she was pretty obviously the most divisive slot of the day, plus she's a high enough value target that eliminating her on day two would be a huge win for the scumteam.
4. Dannflor was on the day 3 Psyche(Liger) wagon initially, then switched to the Xtoxm wagon when the Psyche(Liger) wagon gained steam,
then was the first player to follow me onto the BuJ wagon
. This is especially bad if Xtoxm is also scum.
5. Other than the above mentioned Xtoxm vote (which lasted for one VC), Dannflor has been the only player in that list of four that has
never
had a vote on non-town all game. All of RadiantCowbells, Jingle, and Xtoxm have had votes within themselves or on Dannflor throughout the game.

I think Dann has legitimate equity with all three other slots (he votes alongside RC or Jingle at key moments that matter, and Xtoxm fits the most overall-strategywise), but ultimately I really don't think this slot flips town
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Post Post #8214 (isolation #534) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:57 am

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In post 8212, RadiantCowbells wrote:ank you would do the game a favor if you stopped trying to make reads.
are my reads wrong?
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Post Post #8219 (isolation #535) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:11 pm

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In post 8217, RadiantCowbells wrote:it really is just maxwell/xtoxm by the way.
can you go into this for me please
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Post Post #8249 (isolation #536) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:53 pm

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In post 8228, Tohru wrote:
In post 8225, Jingle wrote:
In post 8224, Tohru wrote:Don't listen to RC or Jingle either. They have 0 wolf pelts this game, and we all have good reason to believe that one, or incredibly, even both of them are scum.
This is factually incorrect. The best kind of incorrect.

RC slot was instumental in grapes lynch.

I agree with not listening to all of the me telling you who to lynch though. :shifty:
Hello Jingle, what do you think are the odds of you having being doused during any point of the game.

@Town, what do you think are the odds of Jingle, if he is town, being doused already?

Quote this post and give me a direct answer, please.
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I think Psyche was the most likely douse last night

If RC is town, he's the last one; otherwise it was probably someone mostly out of the lynchpool among the rest, which is probably Vedith or Jingle

I doubt Alisae-slot was doused, I think there's too many high profile town here for there to be time to douse that slot before it got lynched
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Post Post #8253 (isolation #537) » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:56 pm

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In post 8250, Jingle wrote:I doubt RC is doused in any world. :shrug:
how sure are you of this?
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Post Post #8279 (isolation #538) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:01 am

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why is xtoxm a more likely partner to dann than RC or jingle
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Post Post #8280 (isolation #539) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:01 am

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Same question to RC voters regarding xtoxm
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Post Post #8290 (isolation #540) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:48 am

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In post 8286, Tohru wrote:Straw poll:

How many people here already knew that user Prince of Renais was RC before he replaced into RC?


Quote this post, and answer, please.
I figured it out pretty fast yes
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Post Post #8296 (isolation #541) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:58 am

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Ow :/
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Post Post #8309 (isolation #542) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:32 am

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Look at catloaves and tell me

Shrug
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Post Post #8310 (isolation #543) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:32 am

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I almost got lynched d1 as alacrity that game
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Post Post #8322 (isolation #544) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:22 am

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You believe Jingle and Xtoxm are not the team tohru?
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Post Post #8327 (isolation #545) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:21 am

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This game is seasickness in text format
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Post Post #8344 (isolation #546) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:09 pm

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VOTE: Jingle
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Post Post #8356 (isolation #547) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:23 pm

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<3
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Post Post #8358 (isolation #548) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:23 pm

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nobody is going to trust me ever again
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Post Post #8374 (isolation #549) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:32 pm

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Jingle was doused
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Post Post #8376 (isolation #550) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:33 pm

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Jingle was doused between Akarin and Maxwell, but otherwise that ignite order is exactly our douse order iirc
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Post Post #8415 (isolation #551) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:49 pm

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In post 8409, RadiantCowbells wrote:but seriously massive shout out to ankamius. one of the best scum partners that I think that I've ever had.
like 80% of the game was you stopping me from panicking

I think that's like the only reason I ever got anywhere here
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Post Post #8417 (isolation #552) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:50 pm

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but yeah

RC was a fun scum partner to have, I feel like I learned a lot from this game
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Post Post #8422 (isolation #553) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:53 pm

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In post 8398, Dannflor wrote:oh boy oh boy Enter is gonna have some WORDS TO SAY when he gets back
that was the least fun part of the game by far

my heart broke when he did his huge reach out after I started scumreading him
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Post Post #8451 (isolation #554) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:08 pm

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In post 8445, RadiantCowbells wrote:i think the biggest significance of this game was ankamius's standout scum performance

if single game scum award still existed i would want to nom her
I think this game just really shows how much BoP I get in town games compared to scum games

that BuJ flashwagon should never have worked but it somehow did anyways
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Post Post #8453 (isolation #555) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:09 pm

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and nobody realized that me going along with the generally accepted PoE after a day one scum lynch was a scumclaim
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Post Post #8459 (isolation #556) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:17 pm

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btw Creature was really impressive

I was actually sad he replaced out
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Post Post #8466 (isolation #557) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:21 pm

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read accuracy doesn't matter if it has no effect on the game :V

he didn't have the credibility to push his reads into lynches and nobody really gave him enough time of day to consider it
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Post Post #8481 (isolation #558) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:31 pm

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In post 8474, Shoshin wrote:I was very close to fully solving this game on D2, by the way. I think scum got a bit lucky with my replacement.
I was actually looking to replace into your slot

it was dumb luck that I got into Lycan's instead
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Post Post #8487 (isolation #559) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:39 pm

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nobody mentioned any of those reasons after you replaced out, Shoshin

I was able to just spew out questions and general solvey looking things for half a day phase and eventually everyone just forgot that you scumread my slot at all

except for creature :V
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Post Post #8489 (isolation #560) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:43 pm

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tbf enter did give me an out too

and the RC/Xtoxm thing really derailed the game

the BuJ lynch was the final nail in the coffin on that
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Post Post #8490 (isolation #561) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:50 pm

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LOL

I just saw this

this is my single favorite post in the thread now
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Post Post #8492 (isolation #562) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:11 pm

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*hugs*
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Post Post #8502 (isolation #563) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:54 am

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I never expected it to go through lol

Call it payback for handing me my only mislynch in the past two years :P
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Post Post #8504 (isolation #564) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:38 am

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I'm sorry if I was one of them liger
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Post Post #8506 (isolation #565) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:15 am

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:/

I guess not

But still, I'd like to know if I did and why
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Post Post #8508 (isolation #566) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:56 am

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I replace into a lot of games and rarely give much of a look at my slot before replacing in, and yet I get town slots close to every time

It's quite interesting
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Post Post #8510 (isolation #567) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:26 am

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you did not

I am sorry
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Post Post #8512 (isolation #568) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:06 am

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it's okay

I played to pocket you
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Post Post #8519 (isolation #569) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:15 am

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I liked playing with you alisae

I thought you played fine
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Post Post #8521 (isolation #570) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:18 am

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I can't comment on that :V

I was scum so I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention
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Post Post #8529 (isolation #571) » Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:37 pm

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That would've been soul crushing
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Post Post #8534 (isolation #572) » Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:42 am

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In post 8531, RadiantCowbells wrote:it's a pretty bad feeling when you lose as scum because someone cheated, yeah

glad i avoided that :shifty:
Well... it's more since I was looking for a convincing scum victory for years since I literally never had one until this game

Corpse party barely counts
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