Unpopular mafia opinions

[RedFlavor]

What ruleset

[tn5421]

What ruleset

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=72285

[WilliamMcGuire]

The list differs from person to person. But most of my favorite things are not popular among the other people, unfortunately.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Here's an unpopular opinion.

Games that don't carry the Geriatric ruleset are unplayable.

Hard disagree with that. The only thing I hate more than reading wallposts is making them.

And geriatric games practically force you to make them.

[Vi]

You need to play around replacements as scum

Question. If on D1 a Townie gets to L-1 with like 11 votes and then tactically replaces out of the game, assuming the deadline isn't a factor is it basically always the correct play as scum to unvote and let the wagon collapse?

Asking for a friend who tried not doing that. Also because the answer can have ~implications~.

[RadiantCowbells]

Question. If on D1 a Townie gets to L-1 with like 11 votes and then tactically replaces out of the game, assuming the deadline isn't a factor is it basically always the correct play as scum to unvote and let the wagon collapse?

Asking for a friend who tried not doing that. Also because the answer can have ~implications

Hard to say.

Scum tactically replace too so it's not like it hard townspews the slot if you can spin the discourse around it.

Depends why you were wagoning them in the first place too.

[chennisden]

dont tactically replace is the solution

[mhsmith0]

Question. If on D1 a Townie gets to L-1 with like 11 votes and then tactically replaces out of the game, assuming the deadline isn't a factor is it basically always the correct play as scum to unvote and let the wagon collapse?

Asking for a friend who tried not doing that. Also because the answer can have ~implications

Hard to say.

Scum tactically replace too so it's not like it hard townspews the slot if you can spin the discourse around it.

Depends why you were wagoning them in the first place too.

As a game host if I had full discretion I’d probably just modkill the tactical replace out and shove the game to night phase. That sort of thing is dirty pool and shouldn't be tolerated, and people who would tactical replace out in that position shouldn’t be tolerated by game hosts.

[Ramcius]

My rule of thumb as scum is to go with the flow - in this case, I'd just wait and see, maybe someone gets pissed and would hammer or maybe someone else takes initiative and collapse wagon. Taking initiative comes with question "why?", so you have to be prepared to answer it or you might be under fire next

[Carl Tuckerson]

What ruleset

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=72285

I like this concept but 10 per person per day seems a bit low for my tastes. Love the idea though.

[Alisae]

my rule of thumb as scum is to not die

[tn5421]

I'll gladly die as scum if it gives my scumbuddy a material advantage.

[chennisden]

I'll gladly die as scum if it gives my scumbuddy a material advantage.

Thats a popular opinion

[GreyICE]

Formatted like RC's:

5) Meta is the great land of confirmation bias. Anyone whose reason for reading someone is "meta" has either caught a bad player, or is no better than rolling dice.
4) Working together is necessary for town success. If you plan to play this game solo, you're dead weight. You'll also probably survive to LyLo or get mislynched. There's a pattern there.
3) It's better to be believed than to be right.
2) Cases are like debating. Truth is irrelevant to the winner of a debate - either formal or informal. In fact focusing on the truth might be a huge drawback. It's the same way for cases.
1) Not getting lynched is one of the most important mafia skills you can cultivate. Regardless of alignment, being hard to lynch is a skill that is hugely beneficial to you and your team.

[chennisden]

is (1) controversial?

[Ankamius]

Meta is good as a supporting argument for other reasons, not as the primary reason

[GreyICE]

Meta is good as a supporting argument for other reasons, not as the primary reason

As I said, it's great for confirming what you already believe - whether or not that confirmation is accurate, you'll find evidence you're correct. If you think they're scum and you're looking at their town game, they behaved differently in some way in that different game. If you're looking at a scum game, the same person played similarly in both that previous scum game and the game you're already in.

If you mean it's great supporting evidence in a case because people believe it, well, see cases.

is (1) controversial?

Given how many people seem to make no effort to avoid it then get actively offended post-game when they were lynched, well, apparently. There have been some fucking awful lynches over the years, but by the same token if someone is lurking, completely disconnected from the game, spouting random garbage, won't talk to anyone, and frequently votes popular wagons with little comment when they do come back from lurking... well, who was responsible for that lynch again? Or people who get three votes, roll over, show their belly, and go "lynch me, I clearly must deserve it"

[Alisae]

4) Working together is necessary for town success. If you plan to play this game solo, you're dead weight. You'll also probably survive to LyLo or get mislynched. There's a pattern there.

this is something I've had to learn the hard way