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Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:21 am

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Lolololol yes.
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Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:22 am

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In post 1559, RedPanda wrote:Blake can only be wrong about persi blake can never be wrong about nancy that's the double standard. I am town, so your whole case is just dumb to me.
You're being daft, or you don't understand nuance.
Townreads on different people can have qualitative differences.
Townreads for certain reasons can carry more
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Not every townread is interchangeable in the overall course of the gamestate.

If I have a 100% BoP on you, then my townread on you is
very likely accurate.
It wouldn't equally interchange with a townread on someone because I think they're making towny posts.

Saying these townreads are not equal is NOT a double standard.

What do you mean, "one more chance"? I'm offering mechanical solves. You're being dismissive when I offer pointers to scum in the universe where you're town, because it conflicts with your own reads. What do you expect?
Iconeum wrote:The captain is gonna put the doc on himself, 100% of the time now. If the captain (conftown), is killed, you are roped.
Lol @ Icon's push. I wasn't going to suggest strategy but the most probable captain order would be Aubrey on Icon, and Icon on Datisi (the inverse doesn't work, think about it). What prevents scum!Icon from disobeying and killing Datisi?

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Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:22 am

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My Poe is still the same.
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Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:23 am

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In post 1573, Iconeum wrote:The captain could actually JK himself, and doc me to really force scum to kill the doc, or show their hand, no?
yup the doc on you is most imp. The captain can play with the jk.
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Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:23 am

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@RedPanda: Why do you not want to lynch Saudade?

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Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:24 am

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In post 1577, Aubrey wrote:My Poe is still the same.
Can you run me through your PoE and reasoning for each townread?

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Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:24 am

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vote LJK
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Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:24 am

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In post 1576, Liz Jack and Kenneth wrote:
In post 1559, RedPanda wrote:Blake can only be wrong about persi blake can never be wrong about nancy that's the double standard. I am town, so your whole case is just dumb to me.
You're being daft, or you don't understand nuance.
Townreads on different people can have qualitative differences.
Townreads for certain reasons can carry more
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Not every townread is interchangeable in the overall course of the gamestate.

If I have a 100% BoP on you, then my townread on you is
very likely accurate.
It wouldn't equally interchange with a townread on someone because I think they're making towny posts.

Saying these townreads are not equal is NOT a double standard.

What do you mean, "one more chance"? I'm offering mechanical solves. You're being dismissive when I offer pointers to scum in the universe where you're town, because it conflicts with your own reads. What do you expect?
Iconeum wrote:The captain is gonna put the doc on himself, 100% of the time now. If the captain (conftown), is killed, you are roped.
Lol @ Icon's push. I wasn't going to suggest strategy but the most probable captain order would be Aubrey on Icon, and Icon on Datisi (the inverse doesn't work, think about it). What prevents scum!Icon from disobeying and killing Datisi?

-Kenneth
That's the beauty of putting it out here. If we can have the captain confirm doc on me, and JK on him, I'll eat rope if the captain dies ;)
If I die, Aubrey eats rope.
If we all live, rinse and repeat tomorrow
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Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:25 am

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In post 1579, Liz Jack and Kenneth wrote:@RedPanda: Why do you not want to lynch Saudade?

-Kenneth
I like saudade.
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Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:26 am

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In post 1582, Iconeum wrote:That's the beauty of putting it out here. If we can have the captain confirm doc on me, and JK on him, I'll eat rope if the captain dies
If I die, Aubrey eats rope.
If we all live, rinse and repeat tomorrow
So, guarantee an Aubrey nightkill if she's town - what do we gain from that?

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Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:26 am

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In post 1580, Liz Jack and Kenneth wrote:
In post 1577, Aubrey wrote:My Poe is still the same.
Can you run me through your PoE and reasoning for each townread?

-Kenneth

I’m about to leave for work so no. And I really don’t care to dissect every single person when clearly it won’t effect the game. You can either run theough my iso or ask me about specific people and I’ll get back to you later on it.
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Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:27 am

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In post 1584, Liz Jack and Kenneth wrote:
In post 1582, Iconeum wrote:That's the beauty of putting it out here. If we can have the captain confirm doc on me, and JK on him, I'll eat rope if the captain dies
If I die, Aubrey eats rope.
If we all live, rinse and repeat tomorrow
So, guarantee an Aubrey nightkill if she's town - what do we gain from that?

-Kenneth
Yay aubrey would be dead.That sounds great to me.
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Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:28 am

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In post 1585, Aubrey wrote:I’m about to leave for work so no. And I really don’t care to dissect every single person when clearly it won’t effect the game. You can either run theough my iso or ask me about specific people and I’ll get back to you later on it.
Meh, do you think my slot is town?

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Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:29 am

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In post 1584, Liz Jack and Kenneth wrote:
In post 1582, Iconeum wrote:That's the beauty of putting it out here. If we can have the captain confirm doc on me, and JK on him, I'll eat rope if the captain dies
If I die, Aubrey eats rope.
If we all live, rinse and repeat tomorrow
So, guarantee an Aubrey nightkill if she's town - what do we gain from that?

-Kenneth
Confirmation on the slot, for one.
Forcing scum to go there instead of trying to get us to mislynch.
It reduces the amount of WIFOM town has right now.
It narrows the scumpool tomorrow.

I see plenty of benefits
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Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:30 am

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Kenneth, are you comfortable with scum not killing of a doc when they have the chance? Why didn't they?
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Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:31 am

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In post 1588, Iconeum wrote:Forcing scum to go there instead of trying to get us to mislynch.
It reduces the amount of WIFOM town has right now.
It narrows the scumpool tomorrow.
The scumpool narrows with
any
nightkill (or lack of) anyway. NK confirmation happens to any slot.
"Forcing scum to go there" I read it as "Guarantee that they have a nightkill go through".

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Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:32 am

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In post 1587, Liz Jack and Kenneth wrote:
In post 1585, Aubrey wrote:I’m about to leave for work so no. And I really don’t care to dissect every single person when clearly it won’t effect the game. You can either run theough my iso or ask me about specific people and I’ll get back to you later on it.
Meh, do you think my slot is town?

-Kenneth
Blinks* I’ve been on your side most this whole game and your asking me this? ROFL. I feel so loved :lol:
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Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:33 am

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In post 1590, Liz Jack and Kenneth wrote:
In post 1588, Iconeum wrote:Forcing scum to go there instead of trying to get us to mislynch.
It reduces the amount of WIFOM town has right now.
It narrows the scumpool tomorrow.
The scumpool narrows with
any
nightkill (or lack of) anyway. NK confirmation happens to any slot.
"Forcing scum to go there" I read it as "Guarantee that they have a nightkill go through".

-Kenneth
The scumpool doesn't narrow with any NK. The playerpool does. Scum when left with a choice aren't gonna kill in the lynchpool. Aubrey is definitely in the lynchpool because it's a claimed doc and it's alive. If Aubrey dies that narrows the lynchpool, which is a better result then a conftown dying.
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Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:33 am

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In post 1589, Iconeum wrote:Kenneth, are you comfortable with scum not killing of a doc when they have the chance? Why didn't they?
I can think of a lot of reasons.

> Kept them alive for a paranoia mislynch
> Aubrey was townreading them
> Blake, a potential powerful town leader, was scumreading them

You do realize a NK can be because of dayplay and not because of purely mechanical reasons, right?

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Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:34 am

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In post 1592, Iconeum wrote:The scumpool doesn't narrow with any NK. The playerpool does. Scum when left with a choice aren't gonna kill in the lynchpool. Aubrey is definitely in the lynchpool because it's a claimed doc and it's alive. If Aubrey dies that narrows the lynchpool, which is a better result then a conftown dying.
Who
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Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:35 am

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In post 1593, Liz Jack and Kenneth wrote:
In post 1589, Iconeum wrote:Kenneth, are you comfortable with scum not killing of a doc when they have the chance? Why didn't they?
I can think of a lot of reasons.

> Kept them alive for a paranoia mislynch
> Aubrey was townreading them
> Blake, a potential powerful town leader, was scumreading them

You do realize a NK can be because of dayplay and not because of purely mechanical reasons, right?

-Kenneth
Oh I agree. I believe Blake was killed for his potential dayplay. And he was being strongly townread. Yet scum were comfortable killing there, with a claimed doc out there.
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Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:36 am

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My townpool is Ico/Datisi/Panda, sadly not more.
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Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:36 am

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In post 1591, Aubrey wrote:Blinks* I’ve been on your side most this whole game and your asking me this? ROFL. I feel so loved
I'm sorry :P I thought you'd turned against us as well.
You felt Pers+Icon couldn't be a team because of their "chiding" interaction, right? Any other reasons?
Do you individually townread strongly either slot?

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Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:36 am

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In post 1521, Aubrey wrote:My pool is Saude, Voted, and Icon right now.

If the Hydra is scum pulling me by some collar like a b!tch I'm sorry to everyone who said otherwise. Still think their booty is town.
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Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:37 am

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Voted is a townlean, Saudude is I don't know. I thought scum, Panda brings up some good points. So put him in the middle as well.
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