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Yeah this is fine because almost all people get to be neighbours. If it's only the Day 1 lynch that's excluded it's fine.In post 10, Irrelephant11 wrote:I recognize that the D1 lynch is technically never a neighbor, but it still feels in the spirit of the rule. STK let me know if this doesn't fit what you had in mind
Having said that, your setup doesn't work... If a jailkeeper action ever succeeds, the next night will have an odd number of players alive and can't be split into 2-player neighbourhoods.On indefinite hiatus from playing Mafia.- Ircher
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The Four Seasons
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During a special pregame/Dawn phase (after everyone has received alignment; mafia can chat during this phase), players privately choose one of the four seasons: winter, spring, summer, or autumn. Players that do not pick in a timely manner are automatically assigned to Winter.
Once the Dawn phase ends, players become neighbors with players that chose the same season as them. Who is in what neighborhood is not publicly revealed. The game then continues like a normal game.
Once per game, the Seasonal Sensor can choose a season. They will learn how many scum-aligned players (both living and dead) are in that season's neighborhood.Links: User Page | GTKAS | Ratings
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nice!In post 55, Ircher wrote:The Four Seasons
9x Vanilla Townie
1x Town 1-Shot Seasonal Sensor
3x Mafia Goon
During a special pregame/Dawn phase (after everyone has received alignment; mafia can chat during this phase), players privately choose one of the four seasons: winter, spring, summer, or autumn. Players that do not pick in a timely manner are automatically assigned to Winter.
Once the Dawn phase ends, players become neighbors with players that chose the same season as them. Who is in what neighborhood is not publicly revealed. The game then continues like a normal game.
Once per game, the Seasonal Sensor can choose a season. They will learn how many scum-aligned players (both living and dead) are in that season's neighborhood.- chennisden
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force it to be used before first mafia dies.In post 56, OkaPoka wrote:
Inspired by liars v millers by psyche and the 1of4 ability in gameshow mafia by BNP
With one mafia dead, it clears effectively half the playerlist upon selection of the ability.
also please criticize
esp balance i dont know how to calculate balance
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I guess these decisions should happen during twilight, because after the lynch the playerlist is in evens
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@Not Known 15 --> No one wants to read a setup whose mechanical description is that long. See if you can simplify the design or at least format it in such a way that it's easy to read and doesn't appear as complex as it really is.In post 53, chennisden wrote:2) an english essay (nk15)Links: User Page | GTKAS | Ratings
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Mafia can't possibly reach majority the "regular" way, so the vote in the all-town neighbourhood is irrelevant from an EV point of view, as is the PT Sensor. So it comes down to whether town can get a 1 in 3 chance two times in three. There's a 2 in 9 chance of being right exactly twice, and an additional 1 in 27 chance of being right all three times, so the EV is 25.9%.In post 65, Oversoul wrote:If someone could do the EV on this, I would appreciate itscum· scam · seam · team · term · tern · torn ·town- Cinnamon
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The optimal way is this one:In post 67, Cinnamon wrote:
Thought it would be fun to do one of these, let me know how it looks. Not positive this ratio is best for balance.
The town looks for who is the most scummy.
Then the town decides who should be lynched.
Then the town decides who should lynch that player with their votes.
Then the less towny players lynch the least towny player.
Then the neighborhoods decide a town. That town must be picked by all town(obv.).
If scum is revealed the scum is NOT lynched until LYLO(forcing mafia to nightkill itself).
If town is revealed then that town decides all lynches, partipiciants in lynches, and reveal targets.
Plus, this setup is extremely dependant on every single town being active every single night.
That way described above doesn't look that interesting either.-
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Can't be shortened further. Can someone now please give feedback?Last edited by Not Known 15 on Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:33 am, edited 3 times in total.- popsofctown
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I don't think it's an important criticism that every player needs to be able to put in a night action. That's a requirement of mountainous mafia, once one player has a bad history of afking over the night phase it becomes possible to deduce who the scum could be by who would have missed submitting a night action. People who don't show up to do their night actions are always a problem.
I do think unfortunately like a lot of special lynching mechanics optimal play is to "leash the mechanic""Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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That's true, but it is one-dimensional, in this case. Only town is punished for it(and one person is enough). Mafia isn't(unless they all fail to submit a kill).In post 70, popsofctown wrote:People who don't show up to do their night actions are always a problem.
Leashed mechanics are always something you should antipiciate(I do that for my secret ballot mechanic above, too).
And if that means that the game is not fun anymore because the leash taints the entire game, then the mechanic is not suited for an open setup.- popsofctown
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District membership is permanent? So if all three infiltrators chose south district as a questionable strategy they will always make a south gate "report suspicious activity" every night for the rest of the game?
Are the gates to the outside just flavor? That seems like it could help shorten things.
How do the gates become closed?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Question 1+2:District membership is permanent, but only closed gates(oops, edited) are supposed to report suspicious activity - which does not include failed attempts to access the Center PT(I did not forget that).In post 72, popsofctown wrote:District membership is permanent? So if all three infiltrators chose south district as a questionable strategy they will always make a south gate "report suspicious activity" every night for the rest of the game?
Are the gates to the outside just flavor? That seems like it could help shorten things.
How do the gates become closed?
Question 3:Yes, flavor, but they are only mentioned in a single sentence so... no big effect on length.
Question 4:The Head of the Council closes the gates in the afternoon(and can bypass those along with anyone they bring with them at night, if they are an infiltrator).- popsofctown
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I guess I could resubmit Titanzar Mafia if I stayed too lazy. It would qualify wouldn't it?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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