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[Chickadee]

VOTE: Chickadee

Stoopid birb

Worst fox.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: Chickadee

Stoopid birb

Worst fox.

My vote just became real.

We're breaking up as friends over this game.

[/hate]

GOOD

YOU DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND ME! GOSH!

[Chickadee]

i think easy bake is town




THNX

[Chickadee]

Cheeky, why would we quick lynch anyone?

[Chickadee]

Have to say, I'm not in love with gimmick posting.

Same

[Chickadee]

be back Sunday don't lynch in [cheeky, chemist, binary, AA, bujaber] while I'm gone please (preferably no lynching at all)

Lynching all of these while you are gone.

[Chickadee]

Ok, have fun y'all

[Chickadee]

Let me know when you're over this wagon.

[Chickadee]

Nah

Early wagons don't often stick, and I don't have anything to hide. If someone wants to engage me, I'm more than happy to talk.

[Chickadee]

I'm not. You're all fools.

But I would not mind having to not deal with the gimmick posting so much.

[Chickadee]

If I die today, pay attention to all the flimsy jumps on this wagon.

[Chickadee]

I knew it wasn't legit. I just didn't care about it.

I care more about all the votes that follow. But not enough to ~do anything~ because no one has provided real things to defend against. This whole wagon seems to be for shits and giggles to get a rise out of me.

[Chickadee]

If I die today, pay attention to all the flimsy jumps on this wagon.

Awww, Chickadee...are you actually scum here? This martyred attitude does not match Townadee.

No, I'm not.


Just ~reasons~

[Chickadee]

I'm honestly not even sure.

[Chickadee]

Is it a lolhammer, or do you think I'm scum here?

[Chickadee]

Binary, Cheeky, and FL for town.


Can AA be scum? Willing to go there.

[Chickadee]

I think I was also in Overkill2??? I can no longer remember why we were talking about that.


Anyway
VOTE: Dr. Easy Bake

Flimsy reasoning on everything, with an assurance that

everything is normal

doesn't sit right with me.

[Chickadee]

AA - can you guys keep chatter between each other in your PT?

[Chickadee]

Y’all are way too paranoid about my playstyle. Sorry only one of you knows what I’m like (possibly more depending on who’s in the hydras) but that doesn’t mean I’m scum. I’m here to have a good time, so that’s what I’m doing.

Why do you reckon play style is the only reason people are suspicious of you?

I haven’t really seen any reasoning otherwise. People want to policy lynch me lol

So why don't you change our mind and do something useful?

[Chickadee]

Y’all are way too paranoid about my playstyle. Sorry only one of you knows what I’m like (possibly more depending on who’s in the hydras) but that doesn’t mean I’m scum. I’m here to have a good time, so that’s what I’m doing.

Why do you reckon play style is the only reason people are suspicious of you?

I haven’t really seen any reasoning otherwise. People want to policy lynch me lol

So why don't you change our mind and do something useful?

My value is in my entertaining personality.

Not really though.

If you're not game-solving, why should we keep you around? We could just as easily get your fluff from the graveyard.

[Chickadee]

There are some good points against you though, and you seem to be ignoring them.

[Chickadee]

Why is Pine in your town pile? I'm having trouble reading him.

[Chickadee]

Oh god you're riiiight

[Chickadee]

I would say so, yea

[Chickadee]

you just disabled BBCode I think, no big glitch or anything

Anyway I don't like this DEB wagon, I think he's acting more confrontational than scum needs to

I would like to see some more serious content from mastina at some point during D1, they're null rn for lack of content for reasons that don't seem to be alignment indicative

I don't like ZZZX repeatedly promising content and coming out with nothing. I'd really appreciate them blowing me away after their V/LA ends if they're town, or else the slot is a strong lynch consideration for me

TL;DR don't hammer yet until we get more content out of the slots that haven't given much

UNVOTE:

Consider my vote still on DEB

But I agree it would be nice to get something out of those slots.

[Chickadee]

Disagree. It’s a great reason to believe he’s town.

He’s aggro fluff

Yeah, but in this case, it is. Im adapting to what i feel he’d be doing and/or aware by analytical prowess.

How do you feel about the fact that DEB seems to be very aware this isn't his scum meta. He's been quick to point it out himself that he wouldn't act this way as scum.

[Chickadee]

Disagree. It’s a great reason to believe he’s town.

He’s aggro fluff

Yeah, but in this case, it is. Im adapting to what i feel he’d be doing and/or aware by analytical prowess.

How do you feel about the fact that DEB seems to be very aware this isn't his scum meta. He's been quick to point it out himself that he wouldn't act this way as scum.

I never said this isn’t my scum meta, FL did. I act the same way across all alignments except VT normally.

You backed up FL's sentiment.

[Chickadee]

I'm kind of not ok with voting someone on VLA, just on the basis that they're not here to defend themselves.

DEB - did you notice XXXZ was on VLA before voting?

[Chickadee]

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Second extension request

third, nth, whatever

I'm kind of not ok with voting someone on VLA, just on the basis that they're not here to defend themselves.

DEB - did you notice XXXZ was on VLA before voting?

I’m okay with voting, not hammering though

This was more my sentiment. I'm just bad at words.

With no extension at the moment, votes jumping on the leading wagon are presumably ok with hammering.

[Chickadee]

The thing that bothers me is that he waited so long to claim, when he could have just said enabler. I don't even think he had to specify what he enabled. That would have given town the needed information, and kept something from scum. But adding doctor in the mix can cause some town excitement over not wanting to lose a potential doctor.


VOTE: Dr Easy Bake
L-3

[Chickadee]

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Oh I thought my vote was down.

VOTE: Dr Easy Bake

[Chickadee]

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Egix, who are you willing to lynch today?

idrk yet, I haven't had time to reread everyone. Could do mastina though.

How do you feel about Masting wanting to die? I'm not trying to suggest jester or anything...but it doesn't sit right with me that she openly wants to die just for a longer prod timer.

I don't know how to feel about Mastina.
I'm willing to talk to anyone about that slot to help sort it though.

[Chickadee]

FYI for everyone- I might be sporadically active a bit today, but I will be VLA July 2-7. I work today, pack, and get on a plane tomorrow

[Chickadee]

I have some notes I made on mastina yesterday, I could share them if enough people are interested.

Hell, I'd love to read your notes on everybody!

Seconded

That makes me slightly more confident DEB's role claim was fake, and that he's scum.

-TJ

can roll with this

Obviously or there’d for sure be an NK.

~HQ

What if they want you thinking this so they didn't kill anyone?

I had this same thought. Maybe it's a ploy to get us to look at associations with DEB?

[Chickadee]

Fun fact: If most people don't read you right, then you're not easy to read, and maybe you're not putting out the vibes that you are intending.

[Chickadee]

Still VLA. I’m in airport limbo at the moment. I will come back and contribute Monday (tomorrow).

I’m good with a mass claim, but I will absolutely mentally check out once it becomes a game of mechanical solve.

I’m VT

[Chickadee]

Bear with me guys, I'm (probably badly) summarizing a lot of pages here.

FL looks like bad town, because of how stubborn and unwavering he is about DEB. I don't see scum motivation in sticking with his stance today. But it also hasn't brought forth a lot of new info. But it's also worth note, FL is hyper aware of things he would and would not do as scum, which pointing those out, is in itself scummy. Still, bad town.

FL, what are some non-DEB, non mass claim thoughts you have at the moment?

I think Pine, Dan, AA and FL are town. Pine came in first to soft claim a guilty on DEB, backed up by our claimed doctor. Makes me think Pine and Dan are on the same side.

[Chickadee]

what's the soft guilty

It was never elaborated, but I'm putting it in the town pile because of Dan's corroboration.

[Chickadee]

Hey will catch up soon. We should probably consolidate I'm not big on either wagon but I'll go with consensus would prefer Egix or Binary iirc.

Neither of those are top wagons at the moment. Why pick out those two if you're talking about consolidating?

[Chickadee]

snip

snip

There still being bad only change here is that

Chick obvtowned

.

What changed for you?

[Chickadee]

It's very frustrating still not having anything from the Mastina slot.

[Chickadee]

I'd be fine with Mastina or Binary.

VOTE: Mastina

[Chickadee]

I'd be fine with Mastina or Binary.

VOTE: Mastina

ngl this feels really opportunistic

I'm the 2nd on the wagon, and there's 2 and a half days left.

What plan of action would you propose?

[Chickadee]

I think the list was too big, but it is time to start consolidating on something.

[Chickadee]

Where is everyone? It's nearing end of day, and we need to settle this.

I think it's kind of telling the Masting lynch isn't picking up.

[Chickadee]

Where is everyone? It's nearing end of day, and we need to settle this.

I think it's kind of telling the Masting lynch isn't picking up.

I'm here.

To be clear, are you saying it's implicative of scum!mastina?

(Happy birthday btw)

I am

And thank you!

[Chickadee]

Where is everyone? It's nearing end of day, and we need to settle this.

I think it's kind of telling the Masting lynch isn't picking up.

L-1 in the span of half a week doesn't count as "picking up"?

Huh, what an unusual perspective.

Being this close to deadline without a hammer...I don't see what's so unusual.

[Chickadee]

Birthday shenanigans are winding down. I'll be going to bed soon. I'm not sure I'll be able to check in again before deadline. I'll be around for the next 20 minutes or so. We need to do something.

[Chickadee]

Mastina is still currently the biggest wagon. Other people don't seem to be around. That's kind of my point. I want to know WHO we're consolidating on. Going with "someone that isn't Mastina" isn't helpful.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: Binary Star

That ties up the wagons, now 3 votes is needed to lynch either Mastina or Binary. And everyone seems to be gone.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: mastina
FL was totally a mislynch scum counterwagon to actual scum and she's the obvious choice.

???????

[Chickadee]

This game got wild.

The guilty coming from FL makes me seriously doubt it.

[Chickadee]

That's fine, mastina would be my preference for next in the massclaim order.

-Kat

You have yet to explain why it's impossible for you to bus for towncred?

You realize this is a flipless game right? Scum don't need to bus here. Not saying it's impossible, but the much more likely scenario is that FL is lying to you. What have other people said? They have to contribute every 72 hours, so I know some of them have had to say at least something.

Friendly fucking reminder that Flavor Leaf was pushing massclaim D2 and claimed VT

Turin, how do you feel about this information? What does this tell you about FL?

[Chickadee]

In general, it’s a hard rule to not discount any cop guilty.

While there are additional liabilities to n this game due to lack of flip, I don’t see any reason to think scum would wildly risk a blatant false claim, especially with the likelihood that someone has a coroner-type role and could reveal the bluff

VOTE: Arkham

I'm not saying FL is scum. Personally I think he was town.

What I'm saying is that FL is known to say bullshit stuff to push his own agenda.

[Chickadee]

What other results is FL claiming? We want to know everything.

[Chickadee]

I will not be voting for anyone, either which way, until after mass claim, and after more is released about what's going on in the dead thread (special attention on Dann's reads, and the rest of the FL claim)

[Chickadee]

VOTE: mastina
FL was totally a mislynch scum counterwagon to actual scum and she's the obvious choice.

Also still want this explained.

[Chickadee]

OK, we're not doing a massclaim. Only you are claiming because you are now today's lynch otherwise.

-Kat

You can't push through a lynch alone. There's a lot of heat against you right now. You can't just keep saying "You're the only one to claim, GO! Or die!"

[Chickadee]

Also still want this explained.

My wagon got to L-1 yesterday with intent to hammer. Literally less than half a day later, Flavor Leaf ended up lynched. He went from L-6 (I was the only vote on him) to lynched; I went from L-1 to not having basically any votes on me at all.

Flavor Leaf was, in spite of his shitty-ass play being worthy of a policy lynch, probably not actually scum. Ergo, by employing stereotypical VCA logic, Flavor Leaf was the counterwagon driven by scum--a mislynch--to avoid the lynch of a scumbuddy who was wagoned prior.
(Joke kinda loses its effect when it needs to be explained to be honest, but you did ask, so.)

tbf if you're town, a self vote is never a funny thing. And you've been wanting to die this whole game.

[Chickadee]

And you've been wanting to die this whole game.

Sure have! I was about to say "Still would welcome it tho", because I don't have any scumreads and no real ability to discern who is scum, but then I realized that I actually have a reason to stay alive; as long as AA is alive and being voted, I have a purpose for being alive: shutting down the attempt to mislynch conftown who were obvtown even before becoming conftown.

But once AA inevitably eat tonight's nightkill, my statement will in fact still stand; I'd welcome death because I don't have any scumreads and have no real ability to discern who is scum. I have an idea for who isn't scum, but not enough names in that pool to POE who IS scum.

How do you think dying would help you form scum reads? You still have to contribute as a dead player, and your slot has already been fairly absent all game as a live player.

[Chickadee]

Very uninvested with everything that's still going on. The guilty was fake, we're not lynching AA. Let's all move on.

Could everyone work on a POE list? (I can do that same but won't get to it until tonight after game night or more realistically tomorrow) If there is a common denominator we can take it from there, talk it over, make a plan of action. I do think we need the last few claims first, because most people are claimed anyway.

[Chickadee]

Can you give us the highlights and anything that's super important? Particularly anything from Dan.

[Chickadee]

Well, he didn't flip though. It's just highly unlikely that he was lying.

OSTENTATIOUS - we have good reason to take DEB as confirmed scum.

[Chickadee]

I agree. Thanks.

Well, he didn't flip though. It's just highly unlikely that he was lying.

OSTENTATIOUS - we have good reason to take DEB as confirmed scum.

Let's hear it?

I mean lots of people have talked about it. It's not just my opinion, it's been a unanimously decided thing. His claim was fake being the big thing. How he handled everything was scummy. Everything around the DEB slot was scummy.

[Chickadee]

I used to be, but not really anymore.

[Chickadee]

Where is everyone? This game was just getting interesting for me, and then we kept going on about the fake guilty and everyone disappeared.

[Chickadee]

I think it died because the top wagonee is VLA.

Mastina, we desperately need your slot to be active. Please make time for this commitment you signed up for.

[Chickadee]

I would like to see Cheeky AND Binary lynches...so this puts me in a weird spot. I don't think they're scum together, but I also don't have a reason to towered either of them. I do think scum is in one of them.

Do we have all the claims yet?

[Chickadee]

How do you think dying would help you form scum reads? You still have to contribute as a dead player, and your slot has already been fairly absent all game as a live player.

Because I'd have the information of the dead players.

We literally have a roll that can give us the information from the dead players.

[Chickadee]

Could everyone work on a POE list?

Sure.
Arkham Asylum, jjh, Egix, and Turin Turambar are town.
Given that, there's ~2 scum in {CheekyTeeky, Pine, Binary Star, Chemist, Chickadee}.
Given that we have two mislynches that's a 66% chance at victory at worst by my probably-horrifically-wrong mental math.

This list is kind of awful.
Your only town reads are [the most widely town-read megahydra slot], [someone who claimed a reviver type role], [our connection to the dead thread] (all widely townread), and jjh. Not that I have any reason to scum read jjh, but why is jjh in that list?

And your scum list is.......everyone else.

[Chickadee]

of your willing-to-lynch list, which of those do you have actual thoughts on Masting?

I want to believe you're town here, and I'm having a hard time.

[Chickadee]

The dead thread has a fictional nightkill.

Er. Factional. The kill is very real.

Haha thank you for the laugh. Best typo ever

@Binary Star, you need to claim, NOW!

Agreed.

[Chickadee]

OSTENTATIOUS is town, so I'm curious what exactly you're questioning. Feel free to wait for their answer before answering mine. I'm just trying to get an in on your line of thinking here.

[Chickadee]

OSTENTATIOUS is town, so I'm curious what exactly you're questioning. Feel free to wait for their answer before answering mine. I'm just trying to get an in on your line of thinking here.

I'm not doubting that Osten is town. I was simply stating what I didn't understand about how a Graveyard Factional Kill might work.
And no, Osten doesn't have to answer if they think it would be detrimental.

Ok, that's what I thought. Just making sure.

[Chickadee]

None of these tiers are in any particular order:

Never lynch

Arkham Asylum
Egix96
OSTENTATIOUS

Would not lynch today

Pine
jjh927

Less lynchable

mastina

More lynchable

Binary Star
CheekyTeeky
Chemist1422

I did ask for POE lists from people, so I figured I'd make mine. I still want a claim from Binary before doing anything vote-wise. It's the only claim we're missing.

If anyone is available to help sort through this, I would appreciate it. I had kind of a hard time finding reasons to place some of these peeple. Particularly chemist. I want to go take another look at that slot. I'm having trouble remembering anything from them, which makes me think they're sinking into the background.

[Chickadee]

Anyone have points for Chemist either way? Their ISO is full of easy statements.

[Chickadee]

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>implying I’m ever not

That's not a defense.

[Chickadee]

I'm down for cheeky but Binary, we need a claim from you. Everyone else has claimed.

[Chickadee]

We've been asking for a claim for quite a while now, and the game has kind of halted (for various reasons), and you come back in when someone proposes a wagon that isn't you and you jump on it.

[Chickadee]

That's where you're wrong. Mastina is willing to lynch anyone that isn't the 3 loctown slots or you. I have preferred lynches.








@Binary - if your next post is not a claim, I am voting you. My vote will not be pushing for a claim, but rather a lynch.

[Chickadee]

I'm not that surprised things haven't been moving much here tbh considering there is a large amount of overlap in POE so there's not much to argue about

Can you elaborate on this?

I was just thinking that it's pretty telling that POE lists are wrong if scum is rolling with them....but then it hit me that there haven't actually been many POE lists posted.

[Chickadee]

Mastina's list is reckless. Lynch all those people and we win the game.....well not really. We probably lose on mislynches. I agree scum is in the same pool of people, but I'm attempting to narrow it down. If you really don't see that, then you're pushing an awful narrative.

[Chickadee]

What's up Pine?
Wanna talk about that vote there?

[Chickadee]

I feel like I'm missing something.


regardless, I'm waiting for Binary to come back and claim.

[Chickadee]

Ok, well it's crunch time. We're running out of day.

VOTE: Binary

[Chickadee]

Honestly I think I'd rather see a cheeky or jjh lynch at the moment. Looking back at our most recent interaction, I can see jjh being scum. I wanted to give myself some time to relook at the situation instead of saying it in the moment. But I'm good with cheeky for right now.


VOTE: CheekyTeeky

[Chickadee]

BS > JJH > Chemist maybe Pine if game ain't over

I.......don't hate this list.

[Chickadee]

I unvoted, so I think binary is L-2?

BS, why did it take you so long to claim?

[Chickadee]

Ok, well now intent to hammer. I'll let BS reply though.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: BinaryStar

You still have to be active in the dead thread, so if you're town here, please work with Dan, not DEB and FL.

[Chickadee]

You'll get prodded and eventually replaced if you're not. So yea, you do have to be active. Mind you, I never said useful. You're claiming scum right now.

[Chickadee]

I did ask quite a while ago if dead players would get replaced, and Jingle confirmed it.

[Chickadee]

You're saying you will not work with the known town in the dead thread.

And the thing you just quoted literally says you have to be active as a dead player.

[Chickadee]

Chick did you just tmi that bs is town? O.o

I don't think so...?

I don't like their reactions to anything recent.

[Chickadee]

You're saying you will not work with the known town in the dead thread.

And the thing you just quoted literally says you have to be active as a dead player.

I mean they're not willing to work with the known town in the living thread so...

It was honestly silly of me to try and point this out to them

[Chickadee]

Can someone else vote just in case there's vote shenanigans going on?

[Chickadee]

OSTEN can you confirm which the dead thread killed?

[Chickadee]

Ok so we have

Arkham Asylum
OSTENTATIOUS
Pine
mastina
Chemist1422
CheekyTeeky
and myself

Not having enough information is messing me up right now. I want to know what the dead thread is thinking. I actually think I want a Mastina lynch. If someone is town reading her, I'd love to talk.

[Chickadee]

I was gonna vote chemist in this post, but I want to see a vote count first, so I'll wait a while.

[Chickadee]

Ok, I guess we're not waiting?

I'm fairly certain that Mastina's vote was L-1

Intent to hammer unless anyone speaks up.

[Chickadee]

What do you suggest we wait for?

Personally I want to know how responsive the dead thread is about going with this plan

[Chickadee]

Ok thanks

VOTE: chemist

[Chickadee]

I trust the dead thread to manage to lose town the game in an autowin situation

~ Poison Ivy

My interpretation was that the dead thread is not workable and they'll do what they want anyway. So why would it change what we want to do here?

[Chickadee]

It’s 2 am and I haven’t had internet since Monday.


But I’ll get to this at work tomorrow.

[Chickadee]

@Ank, mastina will be reading the dead pt & reareading the game tomorrow.

wow, this is the most mastina answer ever

Mastina is never going to read this game. Mastina is never going to give input.

[Chickadee]

No worries. Welcome back!
Do you have 15 minutes before you go?

Sorry, I did not. It was incredibly late.

You guys will probably only have access to me while I'm at work, because I have been BURNING through data.


Anyway, scum has to be in Pine and Cheeky I would think. I'm more inclined to go Cheeky. A lot of people have wanted a Cheeky death for a while, and it never picked up enough traction to go through. I want to go back and look at both ISO's.

[Chickadee]

We have the majority concensus here that scum is in Pine/Cheeky. Am I wrong in that assessment? I feel like we should be hearing from Pine and cheeky about why we shouldnt choose them for the lynch.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

[Chickadee]

I've been wanting cheeky. I've been pretty vocal about it. For days we've been trying for a cheeky lynch.

[Chickadee]

That confirms nothing....and no one was thinking it. So why say it?

[Chickadee]

it doesn't eliminate anything mechanically though.

[Chickadee]

I think I'm actually missing something if you guys think that AA post mechanically confirmed anything.... @_@



I think it's telling that cheeky hasn't checked in.

Also give up on Mastina. She is never reading this game, and she will never read the dead thread. Waiting on Mastina is waiting for death.

[Chickadee]

Do you have a reason to townread cheeky?

Also please don’t let Mastina continue to hold a game hostage from the dead thread. She will NEVER read the game. She might at the very best come back with a story about how she has laundry to do and a phone call to take which is why she will not her to this game until tomorrow. Then she will have some errands to run and will get to us the next day. I think you get the point.

[Chickadee]

Can we lynch cheeky?

[Chickadee]

Do you have a reason to townread cheeky?

Also please don’t let Mastina continue to hold a game hostage from the dead thread. She will NEVER read the game. She might at the very best come back with a story about how she has laundry to do and a phone call to take which is why she will not her to this game until tomorrow. Then she will have some errands to run and will get to us the next day. I think you get the point.

It’s a damn shame. Engaged!mastina is great at endgame.

What makes you so certain about this Chick and why are you rushing this lynch? You guys already fucked up by ramming through Chemist. We’re not doing the same thing with Cheeky. I agree with Poison Ivy. I want to hear what confitown Mastina - who you wanted to lynch the other day for I don’t even know what reasons - has to say.

Because this is how Mastina operates. Example: all of this game so far.....or like, any game, seriously take your pick.


And I haven't had internet at home for 5 days, which is making it hard for me to actually play the game and check in. We all agree on cheeky as a common denominator.

If you guys wanna take your time, that's fine. Do it. But I'll be prod dodging until the end here as to not waste data (which I'm almost out of and have 10 days left until the new cycle...sooooo).

[Chickadee]

VOTE: pine

[Chickadee]

I’m still salty people said my JJH read was way off because Jjh was “obvtown”

Then we are even

You did basically the same thing to my DEB read.

Yeah, but I was right there too. DEB doesnt come up with that claim.

Glad we moved off from killing Pine when we thought we were going to.

@Chickadee - I got you, i knew it wasn’t you.

Thanks

Chickadee got more and more obvtown the more I thought about it for sure. she's the best.

I dont know that I deserve that priase, but thank you!



Honestly, the last day, not having internet (I still don't have internet, it's been a week, I am completely out of data and I've just been camping out at work bumming internet) killed by ability to really make a solid case for cheeky/FG slot being scum. It didn't kill my motivation, but it severely killed my ability.

But thank you to town for pulling the win in the end.

Thank you Jingle, I really enjoyed this setup. Honestly would play again on a reroll. I think it would have been more fun to see some of the town powers have more effect.

[Chickadee]

No objections here

[Chickadee]

I joined because Jingle messaged me in sign ups and said I might make the game fun

[Chickadee]

Jingle is amazing.

[Chickadee]

I really enjoy games with interesting mechanics. So it was a solid game for me.

With that said though, this is like the 8th game in a row I have rolled Vanilla Townie....and it drives me crazy. I think the last game I didn't roll VT was a role madness game.....

[Chickadee]

Nancy, you were not bleeding obvtown. I get that you felt like that, but you knew you were town, so in your eyes, all your actions are town. If it were not for the mechanical clear that I had no reason to doubt, I would have been pushing AA hydra. There were several times I had written out a post and then scrapped it entirely because I had to remember that you were the most likely town in the game.

We all like to believe we're BLEEDING OBVTOWN but in reality, it's a bunch of yahoos who know close to nothing trying to decipher hidden meanings and actions.

[Chickadee]

TW you were great, and the game was fun, and in the end it's all that matters.

[Chickadee]

ND - Sorry but I'd prefer not to play with you in the future. You take the game too personally, when it's supposed to be fun. And I've felt liekt his every game we've been in together.

You keep arguing about meta, but the fact you seem to be hyper aware of your own meta means it's useless. Meta itself is garbage, and personally, I don't rely on it. I will never do meta dives, I will never read games I was not a part of (I just have better ways to use my time). I don't even make it a point to specifically remember games I WAS a part of. Meta changes and evolves as we learn about our own play tendencies. I'm definitely not the player I was when I started playing mafia some 15 odd years ago. We all like to think we're giving off town vibes. Most of the time I think I'm being obvtown...and surprise, I'm not. If people are not town reading you, then you are NOT bleeding obvtown.

I do hope you're seeing what people are saying and taking this to heart as a learning experience. Mistakes were made on a lot of accounts here, but it was a good game. It had a hell of a cliffhanger night, and that was exciting. We have a scum team that played really well, and they were exceptionally graceful about losing. It was a great setup, thoughtfully prepared by Jingle. I don't understand why you're taking being scumread so personally? We're all here to play a game.

[Chickadee]

I'm disengaging after this.

I never said I was perfect. I never said my play was perfect. I will never say those things. I just said that it was a fun game, and I still would have thought it was fun had town lost. Yes, it sucks to be mislynched. Yes it sucks to be killed when you have no way of defending yourself. But we all signed up for a

game

. When things get personal, games stop being fun. If you have anything you would like to say personally, or have a constructive conversation, please PM me or find me on Discord. I've tried to be constructive in my posts to you, but it seems that message wasn't conveyed.



Good game everyone, thank you for playing.

[Chickadee]

I wholeheartedly agree with Jingle's nipple assessment