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[DeasVail]

Okay fair. I am sorry about that pops.

[popsofctown]

VOTE: LuckyOtter

[Vorkuta]

I think {Vork, nom} springs to mind as a readily apparent traitor pool though

zzzzzz

I'm semi-confused as to what Kublai didn't shoot me earlier on but wtv.
As traitor I crumb and try to reach out to homebase (C9++)

I'm pretty damn sure I haven't done anything resembling that in this game.

I can get behind oVOTE: luckyotter though

[Nero Cain]

Why does KK ever vote Niko if he knew Niko was a vig?

kk claiming vig/sk makes the most sense though.

but if we believe that KK is just a second vig/knows there's a second vig kirari and nom make sense to me as the last team scum.

[LuckyOtter]

As far as I can tell the case against me is based on really weak speculation. Like, most of Kirari's post is "I can see how this interaction could be svs," but isn't much more substantive than that.

I'm running out of steam. Scum in ofrhz, kirari, DV in that order.

[Kirari Momobami]

why should I be townreading you?

why is ofrhz scum?

[Kirari Momobami]

and nom

Can you expand on your nom groupscum read?

[ofrhz]

Yeah I still think nom is scum

[ofrhz]

As far as I can tell the case against me is based on really weak speculation. Like, most of Kirari's post is "I can see how this interaction could be svs," but isn't much more substantive than that.

I'm running out of steam. Scum in ofrhz, kirari, DV in that order.

Your entire case is that I'm scum because of bad VCA

[ofrhz]

I'm also kinda amused by Otter saying he's running out of steam when he's barely done anything all game

[ofrhz]

Otter, what is your read on Nom?

[DeasVail]

Otter, if you were town I would expect you to be more concerned about the fact that you are town and there is a wagon growing on you, rather than the apparent weakness of the case on you?

[LuckyOtter]

Otter, if you were town I would expect you to be more concerned about the fact that you are town and there is a wagon growing on you, rather than the apparent weakness of the case on you?

That is obviously part of the concern. I wouldn't care about one weak case against me if nobody was listening to it. Do you not remember me not caring about your vote against me some days ago?

@ofrhz I'm never a high post count person. But I've tried through my posts to either push somewhere or clarify my positions. Don't try to paint me as not having done anything. There are so many ppl on this site that do nearly nothing but post fluff or lurk and post a one liner and everyone's just fine with it. That's where my frustration is coming from.

Concerning nom. They've been fine today. Maybe a sk candidate, which could possibly explain hws' behavior. I don't see nom as group scum.

In my opinion VCA is a perfectly good reason to want to vote you. The fact that you're trying to downplay makes me happier to vote here.

@kirari I'm not going to town case myself for you. I want you to come up with a better case for me as scum.

[Kirari Momobami]

I mean you're the lowest post count person in the game other than vork, and vork's weird interactions with creature make me think more traitor than main faction. so it's weird that you're complaining about other people getting a pass when there's at most one person that's applicable for.

[LuckyOtter]

I don't mean in this game, I mean in general, and also don't confuse post quantity with quality.

[LuckyOtter]

Actually, yes, this game too. Red made lots of posts that were all empty. Creature posted basically nothing of substance. And it was not easy to get rid of either of them

[DeasVail]

Nero, why not Otter for scum?

[LuckyOtter]

VOTE: Creature

Why?

@ Kirari, you are scumreading me for a very similar post to this, saying it looks svs to you. How is the above post different?

[LuckyOtter]

I straight up townread Eyes, nom, and red

Lucky is meh mainly because their posts are a chore to get through

1. When did your read on nom change? Was it 1682 after nom started scumreading you?
2. The above doesn't jibe with what you've just said about me

I'm also kinda amused by Otter saying he's running out of steam when he's barely done anything all game

You're blatantly discrediting me without actually commenting on any of the substance of my posts.

[LuckyOtter]

I still think otter is more towny than not though he is going down the rabbit hole of “scum would do this”

And when did your read of me change? After I started scumreading you? Because I see literally zero progression between this and

Probably prefer to lynch otter, vork, then deas

I should put more effort in this game though. Soon TM

(Over the weekend)

[LuckyOtter]

And that's all the fucks I have to give today, and probably all weekend. I have a big deadline today and I'm hosting an exchange student which is fun but exhausting, so I don't foresee myself being able to do much more than check in and maybe respond to something if the people scumreading me want to give me something to respond to.

Just one more thing: @nom why are you townreading DV? If you gave a reason earlier can you quote it for me? Please and thanks. I don't think he makes sense as groupscum but maybe SK? His tone and poking at me are starting to wear on me.

[nomnomnom]

I guess you're right. Though you can see from the wording that DeasVail thought RF was town, as opposed to Of's lenient approach of "lol not a scumslip BUT can be scum".

I just don't see Deas scum here. That doesn't fit a scum team agenda to me.

What did you think of his reasons for thinking RF was town though?

It felt pretty unilateral when it comes to thinking but that's not really the crux of the argument.
I just don't think scum!Deas jumps to save his scum partner like that when they are 95% chances the guy gets lynched.
I don't think any scum does that.

It makes even less sense for a SK to do so imo.

[LuckyOtter]

Yeah ok. I think I'm just irritated.

[ofrhz]

@ofrhz I'm never a high post count person. But I've tried through my posts to either push somewhere or clarify my positions. Don't try to paint me as not having done anything. There are so many ppl on this site that do nearly nothing but post fluff or lurk and post a one liner and everyone's just fine with it. That's where my frustration is coming from.

Would you say that you've been more disengaged from this game than your usual towngame?

I know you're not a high post count person, but comparing to your recent towngames, you seem slightly less engaged and less aggressive. Your post count is lower than usual

[ofrhz]

Concerning nom. They've been fine today. Maybe a sk candidate, which could possibly explain hws' behavior. I don't see nom as group scum.

Why do you not see nom as scum? Do you have reasons to townread her?