Micro 880: A Normal Game - Game Over!

[Dunnstral]

Hey guys, glad to be a member of the town once again

[Dunnstral]

Hey guys, glad to be a member of the town once again

[Dunnstral]

Hey guys, glad to be a member of the town once again

is this the legendary scumdun

no

[Dunnstral]

r u an uchiha

No but I know one

[Dunnstral]

Hey guys, glad to be a member of the town once again

This also being 86 isn't a good sign.

Can you explain how it isn't a good sign?

[Dunnstral]

Hey guys, glad to be a member of the town once again

This also being 86 isn't a good sign.

Can you explain how it isn't a good sign?

... because it seems artificial and forced?

How is it artificial and forced?

Explain your whole thought process

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: OkaPoka

Maybe, but a scumread is still a scumread

Why did you switch your vote?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: sweetnsassy

the more defenseless, the better

I am not a hydra

What is this a response to?

[Dunnstral]

sweet n sassy sounds like a hydra name. are you a hydra?

I guess it's this

[Dunnstral]

why r u so confident in dunn being scum?

I've got no other SR's and the game is stagnating.

this right here tells me Lich is over-confident read has a lot of bravado in it

Maybe you should be voting him instead of me then, since you don't really have a reason to be voting me..?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: SweetNSassy

The avoiding talking about things thing feels scummy

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: SweetNSassy

The avoiding talking about things thing feels scummy

also not sure this is a thing really in this context

It is

[Dunnstral]

Also, thinking about it from another angle: #262 is Dunnstral (slightly) pushing the wagon that OkaPoka isn't pushing. (Dunnstral in general hasn't engaged with the majority of slots, though, so it could just be an OMGUS-type thing.)

Dunnstral, what are your opinions on OkaPoka and on skitter?

Kind of leaning town on him, some of his stuff is awkward. I definitely didn't make post 262 while thinking of him though

Skitter I don't know

[Dunnstral]

[quote="In post 395, callforjudgement"]seems to be intentionally playing in an anti-town way despite me explaining several times why the playstyle is wrong and what can be done better[/quote

How is that scummy instead of just dumb?
VOTE: the worst
Firebringer/sleepless assassin no clue on alignment

Sns slot is above average chance scum

[Dunnstral]

Don't like how he pretty much pulls a Firebringer when asked to explain his SnS SR though.

?

[Dunnstral]

I don't remember when somebody asked me to explain my sns scumread, can you refresh my memory?

[Dunnstral]

I don't remember when somebody asked me to explain my sns scumread, can you refresh my memory?

I was counting 306 as such a post.

That post pretty clearly isn't asking anything

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: SweetNSassy

The avoiding talking about things thing feels scummy

This was her first game. It looks like she just had no idea what to say. I gave her a quick rundown before we /in'd but told her once we have role PMs only ask questions in thread. I think she got overwhelmed. Sucks to see a replacement rather than allowing us to help her figure it out because now she probably won't stay on site and now I don't really have a reason to play but whatever, on with the game I guess.

OK, this seems reasonable

What's the game plan when I flip town lich?

Dumb question

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Skitter30

I don't like their push

[Dunnstral]

If I wanted you to eat rope I'd have lynched you

[Dunnstral]

skitter's like not getting lynched ever

Didn't ask for posturing

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Skitter30

I don't like their push

Uh huh

Do tell

I voted you on a whim, without thinking about it too hard

[Dunnstral]

Dunn with his skitter vote was at the time sentencing me to death.

Keep telling yourself that

[Dunnstral]

What vote doesn't "sentence you to death?"

It's not my fault everyone voted you

[Dunnstral]

eh i could see that narrative

still feel like scum would have figured out how to hammer you given that you've been at l-1 for like half a week if you're town here tho

hammering is hard tho

can you think of how a dunn/kop scum could get a hammer on me reasonably without drawing huge red flags?

I'd just vote you idiot, you think anybody cares about what you have to say after you die?

[Dunnstral]

Day 1 VC #12

the worst/Oversoul (1) - Dunnstral (397)

OkaPoka (4) (L-1) - skitter30 (191), Oversoul (404), callforjudgement (417), TemporalLich (425)

Dunnstral (0) -
Kop (0) -
skitter30 (1) - Firebringer (279)
Firebringer (0) -
TemporalLich (2) - Sleepless Assassin (158), OkaPoka (164)
Not Voting (1) - SweetNSassy/Kop

Lynch Threshold

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch a player.

Deadline

Day 1 will end on July 13, 2019 9:30:00 PM EDT (GMT-4) or in (expired on 2019-07-13 21:30:00).

Moderator Notes

1. If you have regular weekend V/LA, you must either notify me each time or set V/LA tags each time.
2. If you see any errors in the votecount, please let me know.
3. OkaPoka is V/LA until Wednesday July 10.
4. Firebringer is V/LA.
5. Prodded Dunnstral. He has until (expired on 2019-07-10 23:15:00) to respond before I seek a replacement.

Voting History Key: * = Hammer, + = L-1 vote.

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 1

the worst (5): skitter30 (90) --> (Null) (168) --> OkaPoka (169) --> (Null) (253) --> SweetNSassy (340)
Oversoul: OkaPoka (404)
callforjudgement: Firebringer (94) --> OkaPoka (157) --> the worst (222) --> OkaPoka (417)
OkaPoka: SweetNSassy (85) --> Dunnstral (105) --> TemporalLich (164)
Dunnstral: SweetNSassy (300) --> the worst (397)
Sleepless Assassin: TemporalLich (93) --> Dunnstral (108) --> TemporalLich (158)
skitter30: OkaPoka (191+)
Firebringer: Dunnstral (91) --> skitter30 (111) --> Dunnstral (138+) --> skitter30 (279)
TemporalLich: OkaPoka (87) --> Dunnstral (109+) --> OkaPoka (167) --> Firebringer (285) --> OkaPoka (425+)

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Dawn (Pregame; reference purposes only)

Sleepless Assassin: callforjudgement (14)

Here's the votecount at the time

[Dunnstral]

voting lich : )

I didn't scumread lich and still don'tSleepless Assassin is a question mark for me, noting that they may be unlikely partners with Kop if the predeccesor was truly overwhelmed

As for Kop himself, I don't remember much about him as a player but I remember low posting being pretty typical. I think there's a fair chance he's scum just based on other slots being town.

"No info lynch" is a bad argument, next to "they're low hanging fruit so it's scummy to push them" - which I remember both were used so far.

The above is interesting, you are saying that you've read the thread multiple times? Are you moving towards a skitter vote?

The other question mark for me is Firebringer, no clue what alignment he is or how to divine said info at this time. OHe moved off Skitter after I moved on, and now Kop is posturing around Skitter

[Dunnstral]

but I can see that happening as town when the gamestate is overwhelming you.

The only thing that overwhelms me are the warm, fuzzy feelings I get when some of the cast here makes a post. Boy, I love that everyone is so unique. By the way, why would the gamestate be overwhelming instead of underwhelming? It feels like a lot of people have been content to vote park for days on end

[Dunnstral]

What mislynch on a silver platter?

[Dunnstral]

I think oka's wagon stalling at l-1 for like forever is scum indicative for him

Did not like this stuff

Oka just tried to get me to vote lich about four times last night

That's 1 guy, it takes 5 votes to lynch

[Dunnstral]

Now put into words why 'you dont like this stuff'

It is pushing your agenda by saying things that aren't really true

Not sure why people pointed at Kop/me as if we were the only 2 who could have hammered Oka either.... What was everybody else doing?

VC think ok, I forgot Fire moved there. You were already on Oka though which had similar support. More importantly, I don't buy into the "why wouldn't I lynch him" argument to try to clear yourself

[Dunnstral]

I actually do have a solid townread-ish on skitter

I tried a dirty method to get her to vote with me but it didnt work

so im just meh

Care to elaborate on what the 'dirty method' here refers to?

And would you consider it superior to the clean method where you try to get people to vote TemporalLich which also isn't really working, or is this an incredibly low bar for determining askitter's alignment?

it can't have been both easy adn hard to hammer you; apparently which it was is dependant on what you're trying to argue at the time

It's Schrödinger's hammer

[Dunnstral]

I don't think conversing with you further will be beneficial and I've made up my mind

[Dunnstral]

ill rephrase

mrs skitter whats your solve? i know you think its me + dunn/kop but here's why your solve can't be me + dunn/kop since I would've told them to hammer me and they would have been praised!

Again, were Kop and I the only ones not commited to a wagon or something...? I don't get this angle at all, it seems like a false presentation of the situation

[Dunnstral]

I don't think conversing with you further will be beneficial and I've made up my mind

alright, I can freely assume your skitter SR is bologna

I've never been to Italy

[Dunnstral]

strongly urge everyone to vote Dunn.

Why?

[Dunnstral]

Oversoul pushing on me feels weird. Why are they voting for me? Why haven't they done anything over the past few days?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Dunnstral

I think Oka is town after reading his interactions with Temp. The thought processes and frustration feel genuine enough that I am no longer comfortable to vote Oka off the island. Fellow

Americans

lend me your strength for this

vanity

wagon!

Prod received, need to read

Hm. Deadline is soon. That's not good

firebringer and dunn are my compromise lynches... skitter is not to be voted

Hmmm.

I think I am no longer comfortable with a Temporal lynch and strongly urge everyone to vote Dunn. Posting this out of reference of my catchup because deadline is [allcaps]soon[/allcaps].

[Dunnstral]

dunn what has lit this fire under you

I like it just fwiw

I'm not sure what you're talking about

[Dunnstral]

I'm willing to move to either OkaPoka or Dunnstral as a compromise lynch.

What about Oversoul?

[Dunnstral]

Nonetheless, this pushes Oversoul back below OkaPoka for my strongest scumread (also, unlike the worst, Oversoul is likely to become more readable as the game goes on, which is a good reason not to lynch there D1).

What happened to this? Has Oversoul become more readable?

[Dunnstral]

"unlikely lynch" isn't a magic bullet that lets you decide the lynch is in a different group

[Dunnstral]

Post 642 isn't in reference to you though?

Deadline lynch is a copout answer and we weren't that close to deadline when you actually voted me, and you never had any actual reasons to vote for me

It is odd to me that you are immediately zoned in on this vote I put onto you rather than really try to parse any of the other wagons/options.

I didn't immediately do anything though, you sat on your vote for so long that you got prodded

[Dunnstral]

and removed the townlean on me

What does this mean?

[Dunnstral]

Do you realize that 642 references 639?

[Dunnstral]

We'll figure that out tomorrow

[Dunnstral]

I don't really do preflip stuff, a lot of the cast could be partners with Skitter. I'd also vote for Oversoul

[Dunnstral]

We move on and lynch someone else?

[Dunnstral]

We have been getting 48 hour additions to the deadline like every day for the last 5 days.

No we haven't

[Dunnstral]

He doesn't have real reasons though. Red Flag.

It is odd to me that you are immediately zoned in on this vote I put onto you rather than really try to parse any of the other wagons/options. Your reaction makes me feel better about my shot in the dark actually. :lol:

On this occasion it's clear that he's not just confused with another game, he's just saying stuff to point to me. Why does he keep making stuff up to justify his vote?

[Dunnstral]

I don't think Oka is scum so no I wouldn't vote that, I probably won't vote Kop while Skitter's alignment is still in question

[Dunnstral]

I'm here

[Dunnstral]

I'm willing to vote skitter or oversoul

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Oversoul

[Dunnstral]

Neither of those are viable wagons.

You guys can vote what I want or no lynch, I'm not compromising

[Dunnstral]

I'd be okay with SleeplessAssassin maybe

[Dunnstral]

You've been saying you "don't think" the votes are available to try to steer the wagon all day long

[Dunnstral]

I don't know how we could have lost