[CHALLENGE] July Challenge
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I'd say this is not mafia. I don't see why this could be fun either. And it is... not really balanced, too? It has an EV of just 25%...In post 8, popsofctown wrote:One Day Ultimate Conspiracy
One neighborhood consisting of 3 VTs
One neighborhood consisting of 1 VT and 2 Mafia
Neighborhood membership is public.
There is no lynch mechanic. Players discuss the game in the neighborhood and game thread, and at any time a player may post selfvote in the game thread. If the player who self voted is a member of a neighborhood that includes mafia, the town wins. If the player who self voted is a member of a neighborhood that does not include mafia, the mafia wins.-
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Hmmmm...In post 14, Ircher wrote:Surviving Ropes and Guns
13p setup: 9 Town, 3 Mafia, 1 Neutral Survivor
This game is night start, but there is no kill n0. During night zero, the survivor must choose how many lynches the town gets the following day (think like Double Day). After n0 ends, the town gets to play through that many days. Then, the game enters an equivalent number of nights. At the end of the last night, the neutral survivor (if still alive) gets to choose how many lynches town gets like on night 0. This process continues until the town or mafia have won. If at any point, the survivor is dead, the game goes back to a normal day/night cycle.
Day 1 mod announcement:
The survivor has chosen 1000000000000000000000 lynches.-
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Hm. What happens if the Survivor claims?In post 16, Ircher wrote:Well the way I see it is that if the survivor believes they can survive the rope easier, they'll choose more lynches, and if they can survive the kill better, they'll choose fewer lynches.
So someone like RadiantCowbells would likely choose 10 lynches.
Whereas I would choose 1 lynch.-
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One other problem I have with this setup that for reasons outside of town's reach this can lead to the Survivor picking 1 lynch, essentially making this a 9:4 Mountainous.In post 18, Ircher wrote:I'd imagine they'd get automatically shot as this mechanic balances out in town's favor.
Maybe I should set a limit on the number of consecutive lynches. 3 sounds like a good limit.-
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EV of Mountainous 7:2 is roughly 30% for town. That's a steep hill to climb.
Plus, using Soultrap Day 1 is almost always the correct option I believe.-
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The optimal way is this one:In post 67, Cinnamon wrote:
Thought it would be fun to do one of these, let me know how it looks. Not positive this ratio is best for balance.
The town looks for who is the most scummy.
Then the town decides who should be lynched.
Then the town decides who should lynch that player with their votes.
Then the less towny players lynch the least towny player.
Then the neighborhoods decide a town. That town must be picked by all town(obv.).
If scum is revealed the scum is NOT lynched until LYLO(forcing mafia to nightkill itself).
If town is revealed then that town decides all lynches, partipiciants in lynches, and reveal targets.
Plus, this setup is extremely dependant on every single town being active every single night.
That way described above doesn't look that interesting either.-
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Can't be shortened further. Can someone now please give feedback?Last edited by Not Known 15 on Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:33 am, edited 3 times in total.-
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That's true, but it is one-dimensional, in this case. Only town is punished for it(and one person is enough). Mafia isn't(unless they all fail to submit a kill).In post 70, popsofctown wrote:People who don't show up to do their night actions are always a problem.
Leashed mechanics are always something you should antipiciate(I do that for my secret ballot mechanic above, too).
And if that means that the game is not fun anymore because the leash taints the entire game, then the mechanic is not suited for an open setup.-
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Question 1+2:District membership is permanent, but only closed gates(oops, edited) are supposed to report suspicious activity - which does not include failed attempts to access the Center PT(I did not forget that).In post 72, popsofctown wrote:District membership is permanent? So if all three infiltrators chose south district as a questionable strategy they will always make a south gate "report suspicious activity" every night for the rest of the game?
Are the gates to the outside just flavor? That seems like it could help shorten things.
How do the gates become closed?
Question 3:Yes, flavor, but they are only mentioned in a single sentence so... no big effect on length.
Question 4:The Head of the Council closes the gates in the afternoon(and can bypass those along with anyone they bring with them at night, if they are an infiltrator).-
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This is swingy.In post 55, Ircher wrote:The Four Seasons
9x Vanilla Townie
1x Town 1-Shot Seasonal Sensor
3x Mafia Goon
During a special pregame/Dawn phase (after everyone has received alignment; mafia can chat during this phase), players privately choose one of the four seasons: winter, spring, summer, or autumn. Players that do not pick in a timely manner are automatically assigned to Winter.
Once the Dawn phase ends, players become neighbors with players that chose the same season as them. Who is in what neighborhood is not publicly revealed. The game then continues like a normal game.
Once per game, the Seasonal Sensor can choose a season. They will learn how many scum-aligned players (both living and dead) are in that season's neighborhood.
Sensor dies Night 1-> no more town power, except distribution.
Sensor looks at a 7-town Neighborhood N1 -> GG-
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D1 Neighborhood massclaim. There is no good reason for town to keep silent about their neighborhoods.In post 79, Ircher wrote:The Four Seasonsv2.0.0.0
8x Vanilla Townie
1x Town Season Cop
1x Town Season Doctor
3x Mafia Goon
During a special pregame/Dawn phase (after everyone has received alignment; mafia can chat during this phase), players privately choose one of the four seasons: winter, spring, summer, or autumn. Players that do not pick in a timely manner are automatically assigned to Winter.
Once the Dawn phase ends, players become neighbors with players that chose the same season as them. Who is in what neighborhood is not publicly revealed. The game then continues like a normal game.
Each night, the Season Cop may investigate a player to learn which seasonal neighborhood that player is in.
Each night, the Season Doctor must choose a season and a player. If the targeted player is located in the provided seasonal neighborhood, the targeted player is protected from a single kill.
There is no reason for Mafia to fakeclaim their neighborhood. The Season Cop is a named townie. Thus, they immediately claim Day 1 to give town a potentially protected confirmed town. Is this really better?-
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Everyone investigates in a chain, except BP is ignored(2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-2). Vig targets are not claimed, and based on scumreads.In post 101, popsofctown wrote:You only get one confirmed innocent off the hypoclaims I think. Which is not too many for scum to NK later so inconsequential. But I think people prefer when they don't have to bother hypoclaiming during L-1
Night 1:
1 is Bulletproof and town 2 is Mafia. 4 is Mafia. 3,5,6,7,8,9,10 are town.
Now Mafia has two options:
-kill 10 or 3 and get vengekilled ASAP.
Result:
7vs 1!
-kill someone else. In this case the following can happen:
5 is killed. They invest 6. Then they vig 9. 9 invests 10, then vigs 7. 7 invests 8 and vigs 3. 3 invests 4 and vigs 4.
Result: Of 8 town 4 are dead, as is one mafia.
4 town
1 mafia.
Of these, 6, 10, and 8 are conftown.
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Cinnamon is the winner, but has not posted for more than 2 weeks, and their last post was an /out - post.
It's fair to say that they might not even come back for an extended period of time.
popsofctown and mith are in shared second/third place and it would be acceptable if they/one of them created the next setup requirements - or someone they choose instead if they have no time.Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.
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