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[pisskop]

We have no strong town reads. A no lynch is just pissing info into the wind. Nero knows this, and thats why he cant talk about the benefits of no lynching. He can only use negatives and fearmongering to justify his choice.

[pisskop]

Vork is scum

[pisskop]

And besides. You dont have to convince me. How about dp or dunn - do they want nero?

[pisskop]

I want to remind you that its only day 3, and nero is pissing himself in terror at the kpd ratio because 1 extra player died.

[pisskop]

Spoiler: Day01

VOTE COUNT 1.1

pisskop (2):

Vorkuta,

Flubbernugget

teacher

(1):

u r a person 2

u r a person 2

(1):

teacher

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

No Lynch (1):

pisskop

Not Voting (7):

nomnomnom, NerfedBuJ, skitter30, Saladman27, Dunnstral, Nero Cain,

shoshin

VOTE COUNT 1.2

pisskop (3):

Vorkuta,

Flubbernugget

, Nero Cain

teacher

(1):

u r a person 2

u r a person 2

(1):

teacher

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

shoshin

(1):

nomnomnom

No Lynch (1):

pisskop

Not Voting (5):

NerfedBuJ, skitter30, Saladman27, Dunnstral,

shoshin

VOTE COUNT 1.3

pisskop (3):

Vorkuta,

Flubbernugget

, Nero Cain

teacher

(2):

u r a person 2

, pisskop

u r a person 2

(1):

teacher

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

shoshin

(1):

nomnomnom

Not Voting (5):

NerfedBuJ, skitter30, Saladman27, Dunnstral,

shoshin

VOTE COUNT 1.4

pisskop (2):

Vorkuta, Nero Cain

teacher

(2):

u r a person 2

, pisskop

u r a person 2

(2):

teacher

, nomnomnom

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

Vorkuta(1):

Dunnstral

Not Voting (5):

NerfedBuJ, skitter30, Saladman27,

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.5

u r a person 2

(2):

teacher

, Nero Cain

teacher

(1):

pisskop

pisskop (1):

Vorkuta

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

Vorkuta(1):

Dunnstral

NerfedBuj (1):

nomnomnom

nomnomnom (1):

u r a person 2

Nero Cain (1):

NerfedBuJ

Not Voting (4):

skitter30, Saladman27,

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.6

u r a person 2

(5):

teacher

, Nero Cain, Saladman27, NerfedBuj, Vorkuta

L-2

Vorkuta(2):

Dunnstral, nomnomnom

teacher

(1):

pisskop

pisskop (1):

Vorkuta

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

nomnomnom (1):

u r a person 2

Not Voting (3):

skitter30,

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.7

u r a person 2

(3):

teacher

, Nero Cain, Saladman27

teacher

(3):

pisskop, nomnomnom, Dunnstral

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBuJ

NerfedBuJ (1):

u r a person 2

Not Voting (3):

skitter30,

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.8

Vorkuta (4):

skitter30, Dunnstral, nomnomnom,

teacher

u r a person 2

(2):

Nero Cain, Saladman27

teacher

(1):

pisskop

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBuJ

NerfedBuJ (1):

u r a person 2

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.9

Vorkuta (4):

skitter30, Dunnstral, nomnomnom,

teacher

u r a person 2

(2):

Nero Cain, Saladman27

teacher

(1):

pisskop

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBuJ

NerfedBuJ (1):

u r a person 2

shoshin

(1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.11

Vorkuta (3):

skitter30, Dunnstral,

teacher

teacher

(3):

pisskop, Saladman27, nomnomnom

u r a person 2

(1):

Nero Cain

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBuJ

NerfedBuJ (1):

u r a person 2

shoshin

(1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

This picture brought to you by Buster sitting on me in the morning.

VOTE COUNT 1.12

teacher

(4):

pisskop, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain

Vorkuta (3):

skitter30, Dunnstral,

teacher

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBuJ

NerfedBuJ (1):

u r a person 2

shoshin

(1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.13

teacher

(4):

pisskop, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain

Vorkuta (3):

skitter30, Dunnstral,

teacher

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBuJ

NerfedBuJ (1):

u r a person 2

shoshin

(1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.14

teacher

(4):

pisskop, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain

shoshin

(3):

Detective Pikachu, skitter30,

u r a person 2

Vorkuta (2):

Dunnstral,

teacher

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBuJ

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.15

teacher

(3):

Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain

shoshin

(3):

Detective Pikachu, skitter30,

u r a person 2

Vorkuta (2):

Dunnstral,

teacher

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBuJ

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Nero Cain (1):

pisskop

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.16

teacher

(3):

nomnomnom, Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ

shoshin

(2):

Detective Pikachu,

u r a person 2

Vorkuta (2):

Dunnstral,

teacher

Flubbernugget

(2):

Vorkuta, skitter30

Nero Cain (1):

pisskop

Not Voting (3):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

, Saladman27

VOTE COUNT 1.17

teacher

(3):

nomnomnom, Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ

shoshin

(3):

Detective Pikachu,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

Flubbernugget

(2):

Vorkuta, skitter30

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Nero Cain (1):

pisskop

Not Voting (3):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

, Saladman27

VOTE COUNT 1.18

teacher

(3):

nomnomnom, Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ

shoshin

(3):

Detective Pikachu,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

Flubbernugget

(3):

Vorkuta, skitter30, pisskop

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Not Voting (3):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

, Saladman27

VOTE COUNT 1.19

shoshin

(3):

Detective Pikachu,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

Vorkuta (3):

Dunnstral, nomnomnom, skitter30

teacher

(2):

Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ

Flubbernugget

(2):

pisskop, Vorkuta

Saladman27 (1):

Flubbernugget

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

, Saladman27

VOTE COUNT 1.20

shoshin

(5):

Detective Pikachu,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

, pisskop, nomnomnom

(L-2)

teacher

(2):

Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Saladman27 (1):

Flubbernugget

Dunnstral (1):

Saladman27

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

, skitter30

VOTE COUNT 1.21

shoshin

(4):

Detective Pikachu,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

, pisskop

teacher

(2):

Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Dunnstral (1):

Saladman27

u r a person 2

(1):

Flubbernugget

Not Voting (3):

shoshin

, skitter30, nomnomnom

VOTE COUNT 1.22

shoshin

(3):

u r a person 2

,

teacher

, pisskop

teacher

(2):

Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ

u r a person 2

(2):

Flubbernugget

,

shoshin

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Dunnstral (1):

Saladman27

Not Voting (3):

skitter30, nomnomnom, Detective Pikachu

VOTE COUNT 1.23

shoshin

(4):

u r a person 2

,

teacher

, pisskop,

Flubbernugget

teacher

(2):

Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ

u r a person 2

(1):

shoshin

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Dunnstral (1):

Saladman27

Not Voting (3):

skitter30, nomnomnom, Detective Pikachu

VOTE COUNT 1.24

shoshin

(5):

u r a person 2

,

teacher

, pisskop,

Flubbernugget

, nomnomnom

teacher

(2):

Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ

u r a person 2

(1):

shoshin

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Dunnstral (1):

Saladman27

Not Voting (2):

skitter30, Detective Pikachu

VOTE COUNT 1.25

shoshin

(4):

u r a person 2

,

Flubbernugget

, nomnomnom, Saladman27

teacher

(3):

Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ,

shoshin

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Not Voting (4):

skitter30, Detective Pikachu, pisskop,

teacher

VOTE COUNT 1.26

shoshin

(4):

Flubbernugget

, nomnomnom, Saladman27, Nero Cain

teacher

(2):

NerfedBuJ,

shoshin

Flubbernugget

(2):

Vorkuta, pisskop

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Not Voting (4):

skitter30, Detective Pikachu,

teacher

,

u r a person 2

VOTE COUNT 1.27

shoshin

(5):

Flubbernugget

, nomnomnom, Saladman27, Nero Cain,

u r a person 2

(L-2)

teacher

(2):

NerfedBuJ, skitter30

Flubbernugget

(2):

Vorkuta, pisskop

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Nero Cain (1):

shoshin

nomnomnom (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (1):

teacher

VOTE COUNT 1.28

shoshin

(4):

Flubbernugget

, nomnomnom, Saladman27, Nero Cain

teacher

(2):

NerfedBuJ, skitter30

Flubbernugget

(2):

Vorkuta, pisskop

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Nero Cain (1):

shoshin

nomnomnom (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (2):

teacher

,

u r a person 2

VOTE COUNT 1.29

shoshin

(4):

Flubbernugget

, nomnomnom, Saladman27, Nero Cain

Flubbernugget

(4):

Vorkuta, pisskop, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

Nero Cain (2):

shoshin

, skitter30

teacher

(1):

NerfedBuJ

nomnomnom (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (1):

teacher

VOTE COUNT 1.30

shoshin

(4):

Flubbernugget

, nomnomnom, Saladman27, Nero Cain

Flubbernugget

(4):

Vorkuta, pisskop, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

Nero Cain (2):

shoshin

, skitter30

teacher

(1):

NerfedBuJ

nomnomnom (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (1):

teacher

VOTE COUNT 1.31

Flubbernugget

(6):

Vorkuta, pisskop, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom

(L-1)

shoshin

(2):

Flubbernugget

, Nero Cain

Nero Cain (1):

shoshin

teacher

(1):

NerfedBuJ

nomnomnom (1):

Detective Pikachu

u r a person 2

(1):

skitter30

Saladman27 (1):

teacher

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.32

Flubbernugget

(5):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom

(L-2)

Nero Cain (3):

shoshin

, pisskop, Detective Pikachu

shoshin

(2):

Flubbernugget

, Nero Cain

teacher

(1):

NerfedBuJ

u r a person 2

(1):

skitter30

Saladman27 (1):

teacher

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.33

Flubbernugget

(4):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27

Nero Cain (3):

shoshin

, pisskop, Detective Pikachu

teacher

(2):

NerfedBuJ, nomnomnom

u r a person 2

(2):

skitter30,

teacher

shoshin

(1):

Nero Cain

Not Voting (1):

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.34

Flubbernugget

(5):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom

(L-2)

u r a person 2

(4):

skitter30,

teacher

, pisskop,

Flubbernugget

Nero Cain (2):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu

teacher

(1):

NerfedBuJ

shoshin

(1):

Nero Cain

Not Voting (0):

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.35

Flubbernugget

(6):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom, pisskop

(L-1)

u r a person 2

(3):

skitter30,

teacher

,

Flubbernugget

Nero Cain (2):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu

teacher

(1):

NerfedBuJ

shoshin

(1):

Nero Cain

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.36

Flubbernugget

(5):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom

(L-2)

u r a person 2

(4):

teacher

,

Flubbernugget

, Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ

Nero Cain (4):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu, skitter30, pisskop

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.37

Flubbernugget

(5):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom

(L-2)

u r a person 2

(4):

teacher

,

Flubbernugget

, Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ

Nero Cain (4):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu, skitter30, pisskop

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.38

Flubbernugget

(6):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain

(L-1)

Nero Cain (5):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu, skitter30, pisskop,

teacher

(L-2)

u r a person 2

(2):

Flubbernugget

, NerfedBuJ

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.39

Flubbernugget

(6):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain

(L-1)

Nero Cain (6):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu, skitter30, pisskop,

teacher

,

Flubbernugget

(L-1)

u r a person 2

(1):

NerfedBuJ

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.40

Flubbernugget

(6):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain

(L-1)

Nero Cain (6):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu, skitter30, pisskop,

teacher

,

Flubbernugget

(L-1)

u r a person 2

(1):

NerfedBuJ

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.FINAL

Flubbernugget

(7):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ

HAMMER!

Nero Cain (6):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu, skitter30, pisskop,

teacher

,

Flubbernugget

(L-1)

Not Voting (0):

Spoiler: Day02

VOTE COUNT 2.1

u r a person 2

(4):

NerfedBuJ, Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

teacher

(L-2)

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

skitter30 (1):

nomnomnom

Dunnstral (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (4):

pisskop,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, skitter30

VOTE COUNT 2.2

u r a person 2

(4):

NerfedBuJ, Vorkuta, Saladman27, Dunnstral

(L-2)

Saladman27 (2):

skitter30, nomnomnom

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Dunnstral (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (3):

pisskop,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

VOTE COUNT 2.3

u r a person 2

(4):

NerfedBuJ, Vorkuta, Saladman27, Dunnstral

(L-2)

Saladman27 (2):

skitter30, nomnomnom

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Dunnstral (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (3):

pisskop,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

VOTE COUNT 2.4

u r a person 2

(4):

NerfedBuJ, Vorkuta, Saladman27, Dunnstral

(L-2)

Saladman27 (2):

skitter30, nomnomnom

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Dunnstral (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (3):

pisskop,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

VOTE COUNT 2.5

u r a person 2

(4):

NerfedBuJ, Vorkuta, Saladman27, Dunnstral

(L-2)

Saladman27 (3):

skitter30, nomnomnom, pisskop

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Dunnstral (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (2):

u r a person 2

,

teacher

VOTE COUNT 2.6

u r a person 2

(4):

NerfedBuJ, Vorkuta, Saladman27, Dunnstral

(L-2)

Saladman27 (3):

skitter30, nomnomnom, pisskop

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Dunnstral (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (2):

u r a person 2

,

teacher

VOTE COUNT 2.7

u r a person 2

(3):

NerfedBuJ, Saladman27, Dunnstral

nomnomnom (2):

Detective Pikachu, Vorkuta

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Vorkuta (1):

pisskop

Nero Cain (1):

skitter30

Not Voting (3):

u r a person 2

,

teacher

, nomnomnom

VOTE COUNT 2.8

u r a person 2

(3):

NerfedBuJ, Saladman27, Dunnstral

nomnomnom (2):

Detective Pikachu, Vorkuta

Nero Cain (2):

skitter30,

teacher

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Vorkuta (1):

pisskop

Not Voting (2):

u r a person 2

, nomnomnom

VOTE COUNT 2.9

u r a person 2

(4):

NerfedBuJ, Saladman27, Dunnstral, nomnomnom

(L-2)

Nero Cain (4):

skitter30,

teacher

, pisskop, Detective Pikachu

(L-2)

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Not Voting (1):

u r a person 2

VOTE COUNT 2.FINAL

u r a person 2

(6):

NerfedBuJ, Saladman27, Dunnstral, nomnomnom, Nero Cain, pisskop

HAMMER

Nero Cain (2):

skitter30,

teacher

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

Dunnstral (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (1):

u r a person 2

[pisskop]

Spoiler: Day01

Spoiler: Day01

VOTE COUNT 1.1

pisskop (2):

Vorkuta,

Flubbernugget

teacher

(1):

u r a person 2

u r a person 2

(1):

teacher

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

No Lynch (1):

pisskop

Not Voting (7):

nomnomnom,

NerfedBUJ

, skitter30, Saladman27, Dunnstral, Nero Cain,

shoshin

VOTE COUNT 1.2

pisskop (3):

Vorkuta,

Flubbernugget

, Nero Cain

teacher

(1):

u r a person 2

u r a person 2

(1):

teacher

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

shoshin

(1):

nomnomnom

No Lynch (1):

pisskop

Not Voting (5):

NerfedBUJ

, skitter30, Saladman27, Dunnstral,

shoshin

VOTE COUNT 1.3

pisskop (3):

Vorkuta,

Flubbernugget

, Nero Cain

teacher

(2):

u r a person 2

, pisskop

u r a person 2

(1):

teacher

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

shoshin

(1):

nomnomnom

Not Voting (5):

NerfedBUJ

, skitter30, Saladman27, Dunnstral,

shoshin

VOTE COUNT 1.4

pisskop (2):

Vorkuta, Nero Cain

teacher

(2):

u r a person 2

, pisskop

u r a person 2

(2):

teacher

, nomnomnom

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

Vorkuta(1):

Dunnstral

Not Voting (5):

NerfedBUJ

, skitter30, Saladman27,

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.5

u r a person 2

(2):

teacher

, Nero Cain

teacher

(1):

pisskop

pisskop (1):

Vorkuta

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

Vorkuta(1):

Dunnstral

NerfedBUJ

(1):

nomnomnom

nomnomnom (1):

u r a person 2

Nero Cain (1):

NerfedBUJ

Not Voting (4):

skitter30, Saladman27,

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.6

u r a person 2

(5):

teacher

, Nero Cain, Saladman27,

NerfedBUJ

, Vorkuta

L-2

Vorkuta(2):

Dunnstral, nomnomnom

teacher

(1):

pisskop

pisskop (1):

Vorkuta

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

nomnomnom (1):

u r a person 2

Not Voting (3):

skitter30,

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.7

u r a person 2

(3):

teacher

, Nero Cain, Saladman27

teacher

(3):

pisskop, nomnomnom, Dunnstral

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBUJ

NerfedBUJ

(1):

u r a person 2

Not Voting (3):

skitter30,

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.8

Vorkuta (4):

skitter30, Dunnstral, nomnomnom,

teacher

u r a person 2

(2):

Nero Cain, Saladman27

teacher

(1):

pisskop

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBUJ

NerfedBUJ

(1):

u r a person 2

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.9

Vorkuta (4):

skitter30, Dunnstral, nomnomnom,

teacher

u r a person 2

(2):

Nero Cain, Saladman27

teacher

(1):

pisskop

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBUJ

NerfedBUJ

(1):

u r a person 2

shoshin

(1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.11

Vorkuta (3):

skitter30, Dunnstral,

teacher

teacher

(3):

pisskop, Saladman27, nomnomnom

u r a person 2

(1):

Nero Cain

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBUJ

NerfedBUJ

(1):

u r a person 2

shoshin

(1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

This picture brought to you by Buster sitting on me in the morning.

VOTE COUNT 1.12

teacher

(4):

pisskop, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain

Vorkuta (3):

skitter30, Dunnstral,

teacher

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBUJ

NerfedBUJ

(1):

u r a person 2

shoshin

(1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.13

teacher

(4):

pisskop, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain

Vorkuta (3):

skitter30, Dunnstral,

teacher

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBUJ

NerfedBUJ

(1):

u r a person 2

shoshin

(1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.14

teacher

(4):

pisskop, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain

shoshin

(3):

Detective Pikachu, skitter30,

u r a person 2

Vorkuta (2):

Dunnstral,

teacher

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBUJ

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.15

teacher

(3):

Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain

shoshin

(3):

Detective Pikachu, skitter30,

u r a person 2

Vorkuta (2):

Dunnstral,

teacher

Detective Pikachu (1):

NerfedBUJ

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Nero Cain (1):

pisskop

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.16

teacher

(3):

nomnomnom, Nero Cain,

NerfedBUJ

shoshin

(2):

Detective Pikachu,

u r a person 2

Vorkuta (2):

Dunnstral,

teacher

Flubbernugget

(2):

Vorkuta, skitter30

Nero Cain (1):

pisskop

Not Voting (3):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

, Saladman27

VOTE COUNT 1.17

teacher

(3):

nomnomnom, Nero Cain,

NerfedBUJ

shoshin

(3):

Detective Pikachu,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

Flubbernugget

(2):

Vorkuta, skitter30

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Nero Cain (1):

pisskop

Not Voting (3):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

, Saladman27

VOTE COUNT 1.18

teacher

(3):

nomnomnom, Nero Cain,

NerfedBUJ

shoshin

(3):

Detective Pikachu,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

Flubbernugget

(3):

Vorkuta, skitter30, pisskop

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Not Voting (3):

shoshin

,

Flubbernugget

, Saladman27

VOTE COUNT 1.19

shoshin

(3):

Detective Pikachu,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

Vorkuta (3):

Dunnstral, nomnomnom, skitter30

teacher

(2):

Nero Cain,

NerfedBUJ

Flubbernugget

(2):

pisskop, Vorkuta

Saladman27 (1):

Flubbernugget

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

, Saladman27

VOTE COUNT 1.20

shoshin

(5):

Detective Pikachu,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

, pisskop, nomnomnom

(L-2)

teacher

(2):

Nero Cain,

NerfedBUJ

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Saladman27 (1):

Flubbernugget

Dunnstral (1):

Saladman27

Not Voting (2):

shoshin

, skitter30

VOTE COUNT 1.21

shoshin

(4):

Detective Pikachu,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

, pisskop

teacher

(2):

Nero Cain,

NerfedBUJ

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Dunnstral (1):

Saladman27

u r a person 2

(1):

Flubbernugget

Not Voting (3):

shoshin

, skitter30, nomnomnom

VOTE COUNT 1.22

shoshin

(3):

u r a person 2

,

teacher

, pisskop

teacher

(2):

Nero Cain,

NerfedBUJ

u r a person 2

(2):

Flubbernugget

,

shoshin

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Dunnstral (1):

Saladman27

Not Voting (3):

skitter30, nomnomnom, Detective Pikachu

VOTE COUNT 1.23

shoshin

(4):

u r a person 2

,

teacher

, pisskop,

Flubbernugget

teacher

(2):

Nero Cain,

NerfedBUJ

u r a person 2

(1):

shoshin

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Dunnstral (1):

Saladman27

Not Voting (3):

skitter30, nomnomnom, Detective Pikachu

VOTE COUNT 1.24

shoshin

(5):

u r a person 2

,

teacher

, pisskop,

Flubbernugget

, nomnomnom

teacher

(2):

Nero Cain,

NerfedBUJ

u r a person 2

(1):

shoshin

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Dunnstral (1):

Saladman27

Not Voting (2):

skitter30, Detective Pikachu

VOTE COUNT 1.25

shoshin

(4):

u r a person 2

,

Flubbernugget

, nomnomnom, Saladman27

teacher

(3):

Nero Cain,

NerfedBUJ

,

shoshin

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Flubbernugget

(1):

Vorkuta

Not Voting (4):

skitter30, Detective Pikachu, pisskop,

teacher

VOTE COUNT 1.26

shoshin

(4):

Flubbernugget

, nomnomnom, Saladman27, Nero Cain

teacher

(2):

NerfedBUJ

,

shoshin

Flubbernugget

(2):

Vorkuta, pisskop

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Not Voting (4):

skitter30, Detective Pikachu,

teacher

,

u r a person 2

VOTE COUNT 1.27

shoshin

(5):

Flubbernugget

, nomnomnom, Saladman27, Nero Cain,

u r a person 2

(L-2)

teacher

(2):

NerfedBUJ

, skitter30

Flubbernugget

(2):

Vorkuta, pisskop

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Nero Cain (1):

shoshin

nomnomnom (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (1):

teacher

VOTE COUNT 1.28

shoshin

(4):

Flubbernugget

, nomnomnom, Saladman27, Nero Cain

teacher

(2):

NerfedBUJ

, skitter30

Flubbernugget

(2):

Vorkuta, pisskop

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Nero Cain (1):

shoshin

nomnomnom (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (2):

teacher

,

u r a person 2

VOTE COUNT 1.29

shoshin

(4):

Flubbernugget

, nomnomnom, Saladman27, Nero Cain

Flubbernugget

(4):

Vorkuta, pisskop, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

Nero Cain (2):

shoshin

, skitter30

teacher

(1):

NerfedBUJ

nomnomnom (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (1):

teacher

VOTE COUNT 1.30

shoshin

(4):

Flubbernugget

, nomnomnom, Saladman27, Nero Cain

Flubbernugget

(4):

Vorkuta, pisskop, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

Nero Cain (2):

shoshin

, skitter30

teacher

(1):

NerfedBUJ

nomnomnom (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (1):

teacher

VOTE COUNT 1.31

Flubbernugget

(6):

Vorkuta, pisskop, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom

(L-1)

shoshin

(2):

Flubbernugget

, Nero Cain

Nero Cain (1):

shoshin

teacher

(1):

NerfedBUJ

nomnomnom (1):

Detective Pikachu

u r a person 2

(1):

skitter30

Saladman27 (1):

teacher

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.32

Flubbernugget

(5):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom

(L-2)

Nero Cain (3):

shoshin

, pisskop, Detective Pikachu

shoshin

(2):

Flubbernugget

, Nero Cain

teacher

(1):

NerfedBUJ

u r a person 2

(1):

skitter30

Saladman27 (1):

teacher

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.33

Flubbernugget

(4):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27

Nero Cain (3):

shoshin

, pisskop, Detective Pikachu

teacher

(2):

NerfedBUJ

, nomnomnom

u r a person 2

(2):

skitter30,

teacher

shoshin

(1):

Nero Cain

Not Voting (1):

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.34

Flubbernugget

(5):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom

(L-2)

u r a person 2

(4):

skitter30,

teacher

, pisskop,

Flubbernugget

Nero Cain (2):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu

teacher

(1):

NerfedBUJ

shoshin

(1):

Nero Cain

Not Voting (0):

Flubbernugget

VOTE COUNT 1.35

Flubbernugget

(6):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom, pisskop

(L-1)

u r a person 2

(3):

skitter30,

teacher

,

Flubbernugget

Nero Cain (2):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu

teacher

(1):

NerfedBUJ

shoshin

(1):

Nero Cain

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.36

Flubbernugget

(5):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom

(L-2)

u r a person 2

(4):

teacher

,

Flubbernugget

, Nero Cain,

NerfedBUJ

Nero Cain (4):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu, skitter30, pisskop

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.37

Flubbernugget

(5):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom

(L-2)

u r a person 2

(4):

teacher

,

Flubbernugget

, Nero Cain,

NerfedBUJ

Nero Cain (4):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu, skitter30, pisskop

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.38

Flubbernugget

(6):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain

(L-1)

Nero Cain (5):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu, skitter30, pisskop,

teacher

(L-2)

u r a person 2

(2):

Flubbernugget

,

NerfedBUJ

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.39

Flubbernugget

(6):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain

(L-1)

Nero Cain (6):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu, skitter30, pisskop,

teacher

,

Flubbernugget

(L-1)

u r a person 2

(1):

NerfedBUJ

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.40

Flubbernugget

(6):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain

(L-1)

Nero Cain (6):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu, skitter30, pisskop,

teacher

,

Flubbernugget

(L-1)

u r a person 2

(1):

NerfedBUJ

Not Voting (0):

VOTE COUNT 1.FINAL

Flubbernugget

(7):

Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain,

NerfedBUJ

HAMMER!

Nero Cain (6):

shoshin

, Detective Pikachu, skitter30, pisskop,

teacher

,

Flubbernugget

(L-1)

Not Voting (0):

Spoiler: Day02

VOTE COUNT 2.1

u r a person 2

(4):

NerfedBUJ

, Vorkuta, Dunnstral,

teacher

(L-2)

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

skitter30 (1):

nomnomnom

Dunnstral (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (4):

pisskop,

u r a person 2

, Saladman27, skitter30

VOTE COUNT 2.2

u r a person 2

(4):

NerfedBUJ

, Vorkuta, Saladman27, Dunnstral

(L-2)

Saladman27 (2):

skitter30, nomnomnom

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Dunnstral (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (3):

pisskop,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

VOTE COUNT 2.3

u r a person 2

(4):

NerfedBUJ

, Vorkuta, Saladman27, Dunnstral

(L-2)

Saladman27 (2):

skitter30, nomnomnom

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Dunnstral (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (3):

pisskop,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

VOTE COUNT 2.4

u r a person 2

(4):

NerfedBUJ

, Vorkuta, Saladman27, Dunnstral

(L-2)

Saladman27 (2):

skitter30, nomnomnom

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Dunnstral (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (3):

pisskop,

u r a person 2

,

teacher

VOTE COUNT 2.5

u r a person 2

(4):

NerfedBUJ

, Vorkuta, Saladman27, Dunnstral

(L-2)

Saladman27 (3):

skitter30, nomnomnom, pisskop

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Dunnstral (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (2):

u r a person 2

,

teacher

VOTE COUNT 2.6

u r a person 2

(4):

NerfedBUJ

, Vorkuta, Saladman27, Dunnstral

(L-2)

Saladman27 (3):

skitter30, nomnomnom, pisskop

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Dunnstral (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (2):

u r a person 2

,

teacher

VOTE COUNT 2.7

u r a person 2

(3):

NerfedBUJ

, Saladman27, Dunnstral

nomnomnom (2):

Detective Pikachu, Vorkuta

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Vorkuta (1):

pisskop

Nero Cain (1):

skitter30

Not Voting (3):

u r a person 2

,

teacher

, nomnomnom

VOTE COUNT 2.8

u r a person 2

(3):

NerfedBUJ

, Saladman27, Dunnstral

nomnomnom (2):

Detective Pikachu, Vorkuta

Nero Cain (2):

skitter30,

teacher

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Vorkuta (1):

pisskop

Not Voting (2):

u r a person 2

, nomnomnom

VOTE COUNT 2.9

u r a person 2

(4):

NerfedBUJ

, Saladman27, Dunnstral, nomnomnom

(L-2)

Nero Cain (4):

skitter30,

teacher

, pisskop, Detective Pikachu

(L-2)

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

teacher

(1):

Nero Cain

Not Voting (1):

u r a person 2

VOTE COUNT 2.FINAL

u r a person 2

(6):

NerfedBUJ

, Saladman27, Dunnstral, nomnomnom, Nero Cain, pisskop

HAMMER

Nero Cain (2):

skitter30,

teacher

nomnomnom (1):

Vorkuta

Dunnstral (1):

Detective Pikachu

Not Voting (1):

u r a person 2

ebwop: nerfed died too

[pisskop]

This is twice nero was the countwagon.

[pisskop]

VOTE: nom x3
Failed to get your shoshin mislynch so you killed her because the cop claim was too heavy to pass up

VOTE: Dunn because you guys won't give me nom

and there is little value in lynching teacher first but some value in lynching urap first to kill any lingering influence he might have

I have no idea how "lynching teacher first is worse"
But I can do VOTE: urap2

He's all over the place, and frankly it does look like a bus to sit on urap when the wagon stalls around and he's so jittery with his vote.

[pisskop]

ugh

a bluff?

[pisskop]

Scum driven kills are not a safety net

[pisskop]

Okay. Ill take it to a lynch today

[pisskop]

The real shame is that if you are town youre killing our chances of successfully killing a scum

[pisskop]

I advise against a MC, but I also think most of the real power is spent.

[pisskop]

Why the rush?

We dont argue 'why not'.

We argue 'why'


Why not taste the apple from the tree of knowledge?
Why not skip work/school?
Why not take inaction today?
Why not No lynch

[pisskop]

The No Lynch is the deviation from the norm. It is, in the vast majority of cases, suboptimal. So suboptimal that it faces heavy resistance even when called for.

giving scum free kills to satisfy a numbers game -and kill town momentum while you do it- is suboptimal.

[pisskop]

VOTE: salad

yea. thats 4 on salad now.

[pisskop]

VOTE: unvote

actually

[pisskop]

Im not ready to end the day

[pisskop]

A town quickhammer isnt off the table here, I feel.

[pisskop]

If you think I am scum why am i worried about a quickhammer?

[pisskop]

nah. have fun actually doing something worthwhile today tho

[pisskop]

Dunn, I dont quite get why you sr skitter. i also havent read your iso, but Im looking more for things like 'gut' 'the switch from x to y' and things like that.

[pisskop]

And ,so we dont need to do this later, I TR nero for his very gradual SR on me, and reluctance to do this sooner. if nothing else

[pisskop]

???

Because youre no longer wasting our time trying to nl? By policy I should eventually get PLed anyway, so now or tomorrow?

[pisskop]

Im going to iso urap and look for some kind of assocations with people.

like vork. and skitter [at your behest]. and DP/Dunn. And salad.

[pisskop]

like I said. Good luck with that 1v1

[pisskop]

If somebody thinks this nero is scum

[and I do think scum nero is more likely to ask so many unindicative questions to try to justify a push] then we should talk about it.

[pisskop]

and I do think scum nero is more likely to ask so many unindicative questions to try to justify a push

[pisskop]

If I told you that sometimes I fake reads and interactions to gauge responses and incite/manipulate reads would that suffice?

A better gauge of my intentions than just what I say is what I vote, and a better gauge than that is how often I mention them/how in depth I go.

[pisskop]

Look at how I treat vork versus nom.

[pisskop]

And nom versus dp

[pisskop]

GL:HF

[pisskop]

[pisskop]

I think Cinn is probably town

You should vote where your heart moves you to vote. When the time is right, and the person is right, you'll just know.

Do you think cinn is scum?

lol ok

how about why do you think cinn is scum?

I think scum!cinn likely has their claim figured out before making it early d1

but you're acting like cinn is experienced and he's not.

your whole reason for thinking Cinn is b/c you think he'd have his claim in order right?

yeah, in a nutshell. i don't think that's a small thing tho?

like experienced or not I think I'd dot my t's and cross my i's

no?

This convo right here is why nero isnt scum

[pisskop]

???

I feel like this is deja vu

[pisskop]

nvm I guess I made a note of it but never posted it here.

[pisskop]

@nom I don't think I played a passive opening to this game. What are you talking about?

That's how it came across to me. I just didn't recognize your towngame.

VOTE: nom

show work please

I am voting scum dude what are you on about

I just want you to show me how I've played a passive game

Likewise, a defensive and WKy player would challenge small pushes in his direction so early.

[pisskop]

I mean that's just URAP though.

The only times I've seen pushing something really hard is when he thinks something is 100% bullshit otherwise he tends to ask a lot of questions and make lengthy posts.

you're really not very good at using meta.

UNVOTE: for reasons

Oh, and this is a setup for shading nom if he does flip

[pisskop]

The hope is that people wont put it in context and just see the 'for raisins' part.

[pisskop]

Sneaky scumbucket is snakey

[pisskop]

? i don't really see much townie in vork's push there .... ?

Vorkuta's push was bad, but I don't see scum motivation there?

??? why is this a scummy entrance ....?
if anything i can see the post about timezones to be a scummy entrance of this kind but why is *this* post scummy?

I quoted this one because I was making the comparison to the greeting tell, but I should have quoted the second one as well, yes.

so the fact that you're townreading things i find scummy is beginning to concern me

flipping on reads is a town tell, yea? especially abruptly and in the absence of an obvious catalyst

never played with him, idk his meta
good tone, some of his posts just feel really townie, don't think scum decide to lolwagon someone they'd just declared a scumread; they're usually more conscientious about this sort of thing

that's part of my town read on vorkuta, ya =P

This string doesnt clear skitter. But I think it does help? Its shallow discussion across several players. But, look at the last post. While urap tries to make it about Vork, its actually about teacher when read in context. urap is defending vork hard. The question is whether he knows much about vork's play.

[pisskop]

Whether youre a paranoid shaking jesus or not, consider that fmpov he's already used cinnslot to progress the gamestate. Here, he isnt using vork in the same way.

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This looks like unabashed WKing to me. Town or scum, vork was WKed

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I dislike nom's early iso but the vork+ stuff makes me think she's more null than null-scum, the vork unvote revote would almost make me lean town if I didn't dislike the bujaber vote from earlier

the bujaber vote was good and more people should be voting there!

why are they town?

He's now using vork explicitly as a means to push buj.

The question is if townvork would recognize he is being pocketed, and who else should have seen it.

This is the first time DP and urap have directly interacted, afaik. Missing the more important half of the game means I wont catch this shit.

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The other question is if urap hard defends buddies. And he is defending. he isnt attacking people who sr them.

he questions why, but then uses parallels from vorks iso to try to push townvork/scum[buj].


^^^^

that

seeing myself type it, is slimely af

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VOTE: vork

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Hot Take:

- urap defends vork like its a White Flag game because vork get murderated before lylo due to his playstyle
- urap and vork are teamed with another, less sociable or more lurky player.

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I think it reads kinda tmi actually. the tone is too confident and i don't like the talking about pl'ing later

i mean, if you really think it out, and buj is presenting as if he has, it's bad play for town to pl the miller claim right before lylo consistently. Ideally, town wants there to be some chance that they won't do that so that scum will consider night killing the miller if it's real. So I'd expect a player like buj to assert a town read and then wait until the day before lylo or whatever to push a PL if scum hasn't killed there.

I

want to

say that this implies an attempt to sway a player, not theatre.

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This whole line of questioning seems bad. What are you trying to gain from this?

Assuming (because I'm not the one who is going to do the meta fact checking lol), that vorkuta linked a game where town fake claimed miller in his links for games where scum had fake claimed miller

Is that alignment-indicative? if so, why? Because I don't really think it is

again. Ditto to above post

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Such as?

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I guess I'll give Vork this point, it's that people only followed Vork's case when Skitter appeared in the thread and made that case despite me presenting the exact same arguments. THAT is strange.

If Vorkuta is town, would you say that makes skitter town?

Like, is it some combination of scum and town following town skitter? or do you think the same thing happens in a world with scum!skitter?

A prod at skitter, but not really an association.

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Urap flipped goon.

Defending a partner could mean they're a scum PR.

That feels like a logical approach. That's also that approach that made me guess urap was a bus mostly and that scums were ready to bus him. And that's why I have doubts about Skitter.

fair enough. Im glad I didnt assume you were upset I called vork's playstyle loose.

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saladman reads are pretty townie overall i think

This is about the first time salad is mentioned at all . . .

and I want to add that atp in the game I more or less agree based on my previous read.

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Cinn was townlean because of the whole vorkuta reaching fiasco

cinn is town because vorkuta made a reachy scum case against them?

You see this? This is where I would have known for sure that vork was a bud. He just crossed that line.

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Spoiler: skitter and urap over 12 minutes

saladman reads are pretty townie overall i think

ok, why are they townie?

i think i had townvibes earlier on salad, i kinda lost them

i just went in the opposite direction, so... why? =P

i mean that's why i'm asking why you like his reads ... to me they read kinda banal and like the reasons were nonsensical/didn't actually explain the read

urap do u think i should be townreading u here?

i can see buj sincerely believing that policying the miller claim day before lylo is optimal

(i just saw him park on someone he was townreading because they claimed scum so)

I guess. That whole post pings me tho. Like, the idea of rushing a post in the middle of the meeting to make sure your town read gets out there a week or whatever before eod? I see a scum motivation for that, but not really a town one outside of exuberance for playing the game~

I could see scum wanting to make sure they were out ahead of them becoming a consensus town read for credit tho

do you think I'm way off base here?

ok, why are they townie?

you're asking about saladman, ya?

i don't really have a strong read on him rn
don't really see the scumread that you're pushing really atm; none of it has been really compelling to me

i guess if i had to articulate a read i'd say ~nulltown but it's not strong

pedit yeah

ok, why are they townie?

saladman reads are pretty townie overall i think

His first set of reads or his second? or both?

oh I see what you guys are asking

I'm talking about the reads he gave in 605-610. He's laying it all out there on request, in fairly short order. Some of them, like the read on nom I think show a townie thought process and solving. There's no immediately identifiable scum agenda outside of trying to get himself town read.

i mean that's why i'm asking why you like his reads ... to me they read kinda banal and like the reasons were nonsensical/didn't actually explain the read

yes, I agree that a bunch of them were like that. Should I expect dramatically more from town!saladman?

urap do u think i should be townreading u here?

of course not

no idea, never played with him before

the reasons he gave kinda sounded like he made them up on the spot tho
like he didn't have conviction behind most of his reads and when pressured, his reads defaulted to 'well i guess other people were townreading them so i will too' etc

no idea, never played with him before

the reasons he gave kinda sounded like he made them up on the spot tho
like he didn't have conviction behind most of his reads and when pressured, his reads defaulted to 'well i guess other people were townreading them so i will too' etc

I agree that he did that. I'll take another look tonight or tomorrow. I just wanted to catch up here rq but today was busy and tomorrow is going to be too

ok, let me know what u think when u get a chance

I have a small issue talking so in depth here, because when people realize Im not stupid and can put in the work they always expect me to do it :\

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Lets start basic:

They begin their convos with half-committments [there's a grammatical word for this thing], like 'I guess' and 'I mean'.
'ok', and the like. 'should I tr you'. Soft ball questions, banal agreements that confirm that something strictly happened.
And they both part ways. but they made special time here.

Id be interested in knowing who Skit is pushing here, because their talk is ultimately inconsequential and about a lurker.


Yea, this looks like it was made to cross-talk without a PT. not going to lie. but not committed to a skit sr yet.

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The signals are all there. Skit opens vague and softs a question, they talk across several wavelengths, and then they clearly state they are leaving their computer.

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Shit. Skit you need to get in here and tell me a story.

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i mean idk if i inherently see scum motivation (ie why go out to kill the miller claim? idk) but like ... he was pushing the miler claim from the angle that it's scum fake-claiming and it just seems so improbable here that i'm having trouble seeing why he'd even think that

I just grabbed the first related quote I found but this whole argument I found suspect. Skitter have disagreed plenty on reads, and I sometimes think she is a bit stubborn holding onto her reads, so I don't think this is necessarily out of her town range

but it doesn't make sense to me to argue that vorkuta should have considered that cinn could have been town fake claiming

while also saying that it's implausible that cinn would fake claim as scum

there's at least one other thing that I remember pinging me

I mean, there's also this. This is an extension of their earlier convo, and I'm not sure if its needed for ScumTheatre

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I feel like the lack of interaction with DP/Urap is much more worthy to look at, honestly. Scums often betray themselves when they avoid talking to each other, or about each other.

this is a townie post

Well. They do have a few. One about hydraing together even.

A scum DP is possible.


Dunn, by comparison, is much less mentioned. But Id expect scum to have some interactions rather than a conspicuous lack.

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I agree but if there was scum somewhere in nero/vork/teacher I wouldn't be like, shocked. I just see no reason to start there unless to resolve dunn v. Vork which has gotten a bit dumb. But I'm also kinda feeling on evild like dunn seems to feel on vork which is that I kinda just want to see the flip at this point

Like if I'm wrong there's so much of my poe I need to reassess I want to be doing that day 2 not still wondering about a slot that won't do more than 4 posts in a week

Pedit: urap want to skim that last not known 15 completed large where flubber was scum and lmk if you see any diff/sim. Would link but I'm on mobile atm

no I wouldn't be shocked either, that wasn't really the point tho

uh I don't really want to do meta, no

If you spoon feed it to me I will I guess

II kind of get more of a buddying vibe from this? Thats not to say he cant.

But he is always asking people questions. Skitter is unique in that she and he talk extensively, Vork in that he is more an object of reference than a target of posting, and DP in that he mostly talks about offgame fluff.

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Actually no the follow-up responses discussing Creature actually look like this, so I guess there's the very small risk that Flubber red flip very slightly spews nom scum but the unvote also looks kinda different.

Actually I might just be wasting my time here, I thought meta would make him more sortable but actually this doesn't look nearly as different as I thought it would other than the unvotes

That's where I'm at, mate. Thank you for not asking me to dig through more lol

Hey, Bud, I think just like you

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Said the urap to the pikamouse

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I could see scum!dunn

Nothing dunn has pushed vorkuta for is scum-indicative, and some is probably town-indicative lol

No, Im seeing Vork and increasingly Skit.

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hey piss, what if Skitter is just scum and knows Vork is town?

Go on with this please.

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I can see Vork's point about

So he supports vorks push but with a hedge, and then argues against anyone taking the claim into account while making their reads. It's fence-sitting to the extreme
[yeet]

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Why was shoshin killed n1?

Was it a crumb or something obvious or we just dont know?

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Spoiler: DP and urap

Please designate your best player so I may vote them to assert dominance

"I don't even want responsibility for my RVS vote!"

Fits profile of scum!lurk out

What bothers me the most about that is that I think we all pretty clearly designated it was skitter and he just did not follow up, didn't vote her, had no interactions

like it's a bravado "I'm gonna fite someone big" post and then he just nopes out of the thread wtf?

skitter I feel like you should be townreading urap here, why are you struggling to do that?

skitter I feel like you should be townreading urap here, why are you struggling to do that?

Why do you think Skitter should?

I feel like urap is like the easiest townread in the game and I don't get why she hasn't seen it given I feel she generally has pretty strong reads

What bothers me the most about that is that I think we all pretty clearly designated it was skitter and he just did not follow up, didn't vote her, had no interactions

like it's a bravado "I'm gonna fite someone big" post and then he just nopes out of the thread wtf?

This kind of fits my profile of scum lurk out

Most of the time lurk outs seem to come in with the best of intentions but games can be hard ig

Dude, urap was saying that ED's post was like, "blah blah blah this is what theoretical people do in response to a miller claim"

He wasn't like "I believe the miller claim" or "I don't believe the miller claim"

how do you get "fishing for modifiers" out of that post?

is this a scum interaction?
Im not sure here.

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This looks like a heavy buddy. DP, did you find any spare change down there in uraps pocket?

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Well she did claim cop. We could call that clue #1

LIFKT

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I think Im done. Consider that my urap iso

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like i bloody well knew that

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Aye

So with this

I consider the lynch pool to be:

- Vorkuta
- DP
- Skitter
- pisskop

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I kind of think skitter is our best payoff here. Due to vork being the object of heavy, heavy defense.

But I wanna know if people agree with me first.

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An attempt to ate people like nero into not being a little whiner?

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I mean, all bluster aside, I am a viable lynch option.

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Besides, if I do it as town, I can then do it as scum and point to it say; HARK, I AM TOWN FOR THIS

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beep boop

Pika, no comment on my actual iso? Was I off based?

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My commentary on uraps iso?
Or my iso, same dif, right?

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I think he was kind of pocketed, no?

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which posts from dp are that?

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and . . . deny us a theoretical scum flip by doing so?

i hope you realize I'd policy lynch you to maintain a precedent

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and it's not like you aren't sred by a few people too

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Day 3 ends in 6 days, 15 hours, 11 minutes

bah

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Im leaning skit myself.

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VOTE: skitter

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let not play games though.


An\y active vig needs to shoot salad tonight if they can.
If salad is the vig he should shoot me.'

The the vig claims

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If salad is the vig he should shoot me.'

Huh why

im still a miller. I dont want that policy lynch wifom if i can help it.

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VOTE: skitter

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I feel like the site meta has trended towards the use of copious, gratuitous, ample, and ungainly amounts of buzzwords.

Bees

Bees everywhere

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lol

nom, if you flip red here Im never letting you make jokes again

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I think dunn is town but i'm doubting pk rn

nah. youre scum and you know it. Im convinced you know better than that blatant ate and omgus rolled into one.

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Anyone here remember the game SMAC? Oh man, I just rebooted it up and halp I think I might be stuck in a nostalgia loop

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back off them on D1 so....

Daily reminder that this is scum

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daily reminder that that is scum ^^^

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Maybe in soviet russia it is, but in freedom town its not

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i lied. i think you're willfully ignoring the current gamestate

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VOTE: vork

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Sounds like you too are reading vork and skitter as the team.

come and join us. Unless you think the unpresent dunn is scum

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VOTE: skitter

inv4 detpika/vork team

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Are you hammered yet?

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VOTE: salad

[pisskop]

Day 3 ends in

(expired on 2019-07-15 08:45:00)

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Yea I still think its one of skitter/vork/salad

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Salad or skitter. plz

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Salad, who was your buddy?


Also, if you are town, this is what a Policy Lynch looks like. I prob wouldnt have settled on you if you didnt selfvote.

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VOTE: vork

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what Happened to a NL nero?

I heard you claimed, but idk if vork if just obvious or an actual guilty

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Its like 25 pages I haven't read. not 5 or 6.

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I'd stake my bacon on vork being scum

VOTE: unvote
. I'll read tonight

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I claim to not eat pork

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B/c I'll be dead. How is this hard to understand? Vork flips scum and I'm obv town bc why bus here? Also it's just vork/piss anyways

Fuck you nero.

Ive been calling that asshat scum since my first day on the job, and pushing him too.

I figured your dumb ass was town despite all the games you play, and now you wanna put me in the shade like this?

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Im not feeling like claiming. You have my role: Miller. If i had significant results I would have outed them by now.

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Miller

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Miller

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We only need 1 scum to procede.

We have vork. Despite all the evidence pointing to vork being scum you guys needed to waste a cop on him to get him roped.



P:

Ill read tomorrow. ppinky swaer

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What's your thought on the Nero/Vork 1v1?
Or perhaps you also haven't followed that?

real quick here.

Why would nero bus? no reason to from a gamestate perspective.

[pisskop]

Vork = scumbutt
therefore
Nero = literal dancing jesus

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Just solved your 1v1 for you

the real question is: is dunn scum or you? wait thats only 5

vork
nero
piss
nom
dunn


Critter

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Maybe the only reason Nero claims a guilty on vork today is to allow his partner to skip the gamephase and just vote Vork and be justified for it.

This makes zero fucking sense.

Think harder about this.

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partner skip lylo?
scum nero claims a guilty in lylo to 'allow p to skip day'?

This is pretending that tomorrow is coming if scum nero gets his way. ewww

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Like how many backflips do you do to make your vote work?

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pretty ridic.

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Piss also knows that my guilty is true and he's still calling him scum but not pushing there bc all he has to do is wait on you and skitter to vote me and the quick hammer

Whatever you say.

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VOTE: vork

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Pile on vork nom. I cant believe nero is going down this dense ass route. Good thing Ill kill him tonight

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I'm pissed that PK is not claiming but this stubborness might just be town and his "lol im a troll!" attitude he used to enter this game but urgh

okay. I was a doc. 2shot.

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happy?

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Nom, if scum are me and pk why does pk act blatantly scummy here?

I don't know.

The correct answer is that piss and I aren't a team and he's just betting on my Lynch today. I'm a rolecop with a guilty on vork. This it's it vork/piss

Nothing I have done in the past 2 gamedays suggests this is the case gollum/

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Ok piss, why didn't you start pushing vork today until I called you out on not pushing him?


Ok piss, why didn't you start pushing vork today until I called you out on not pushing him?

I didnt even fucking post today until 3 hours ago?

still skit.

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Skitter is scum but she has a green on. Who is the other red?

what?

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Also Id revisit dunn

bro did an outie latey?

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VOTE: vork

or not nero?

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Like do you even read bro?

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.

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bitch.

Anyway. We have an encryptor.

Can we kill it and move on to the real dark souls?

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DP? Vork? meh?

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i think youre focused too much on spec.

its skitter/vork unless you have some kind of inno on skit

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The question here is ultimately

'do you believe nero has a guilty on vorki'

not anything else.

if you do, vote vork
if you do not, vote nero.

done.

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I investigated Skitter n2 who is also vanilla. Since Vork (any maybe others) are likely to call bullshit b/c I'm claiming already outted results I had claimed my Skitter=vanilla result b/f she claimed just in case I died or that I was lynched.

so?

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Flubbernugget - hammered Day 1 - Vanilla Townie
Shoshin EvilDeanius - killed Night 1 - Vanilla Townie
u r a person 2 - hammered Day 2 - Mafia Goon
NerfedBuj - killed Night 2 - Vanilla Townie
teacher - killed Night 2 - Town Doctor
Saladman27 - hammered Day 3 - Vanilla Townie
Dunnstral - killed Night 4 - Town JOAT (1s Neapolitan, 1s Vigilante)

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doc - bulletcop - rolecop - miller
encryptor - 2goons

that shit balances yo

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Unless nero returns an actual 'vanilla town' role on skitter, she isnt clear.

Nero. did you recieve an explicit 'vanilla town' role on skitter? or just some vague crap?

[pisskop]

done.

We kill vork today
skit tomorrow.

GG, WP

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Im the best guys.


MVP really stands for MVpisskop.
nero with the much appreciated mechanical assist too!

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VOTE: vorkieVOTE: vorkieVOTE: vorkieVOTE: vorkieVOTE: vorkieVOTE: vorkieVOTE: vorkieVOTE: vorkieVOTE: vorkieVOTE: vorkie

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But for me, skitter and creature have to be town b/c if they aren't then town would be 5 vt 5 or split and just no not vork scum has to be between you and nom

idgi

im negative utility

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I didnt check out everyones claims. so idk what they claimed.

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by play, its vork and skit
by mechanics, I dont really trust many people on site with speccing like a normal person. Id trust myself, and my 100+ games and double digits modded games and et al first.

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I didnt check out everyones claims. so idk what they claimed.

Then how did you know that Nero had a guilty on Vork?

By searching for the word 'encryptor'? Not a very common phrase in most games.

[pisskop]

Google Fu 101, babe

[pisskop]

like nero has dropped that cue how many times thus far?

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Id trust myself, and my 100+ games and double digits modded games and et al first.

Maybe you need 100+ more games to understand that skitter literally cannot be scum and to be able to read a simple post :/

And yet - she will be lynched

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like nero has dropped that cue how many times thus far?

You said you were not aware of people's claims but you entered the claim fully aware of Nero's guilty on Vork.
Don't divert the situation. These are your own words.

they are. I know how to listen for keywords. Its not like you found some kind of slip.

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and you did not realize the implications of that rolecop claim.

if you say so.

Its starting to sound like you dont know what youre doing yourself.

[pisskop]

bitch.

Anyway. We have an encryptor.

Can we kill it and move on to the real dark souls?

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this is an *incredibly* weird thing to search for if you don't know what the claims are, since, as you said, it's not a very common phrase in most games

Right.

And here we are. I knew nero claimed a guilty on vork.

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VOTE: Nero
Nero/PK makes too much sense.

Except we were at each others throats the whole D2 or 3?

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and you did not realize the implications of that rolecop claim.

if you say so.

Its starting to sound like you dont know what youre doing yourself.

YOU ARE TRYING TO PUSH A LITERAL CONFTOWN AS SCUM IN THIS GAME
SAY THAT AGAIN
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SHE ISNT CONFIRMED YOU DUMB SHIT.

DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT 'VANILLA' MEANS IN CONTEXT OF A RESULT PM?

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Like for fucks sake Nom, use your head please.

[pisskop]

Can you do me a solid and get me the claims.

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idk who the other joat is.

[pisskop]

Let me guess your next line

"Don't try to outguess the mod".

Nah, thats for girlie girls.

I just told you that the setup was balanced.

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Now he's just going to donk again and I'm going to lose more IQ.

Youre fraternizing with the enemy.

[pisskop]

Youre refusing to listen to a credible claim and still havent really clarified why skit is confed

[pisskop]

Like step by step.

Im 5 and cant do it myself. Type out how skit is confed.

[pisskop]

Lets see if forcing you to type it out convinces you its not that solid.

[pisskop]

bye.

Maybe you have a parent in the next room that can help out.

Or maybe a pedestrian walking by can read this and help you see the obvious.

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Ill choose to - or not- read tomorrow morning.

rn it looks like I only need the claims, and I can search for 'joat' just as easily as 'encryptor'.

NOM - ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS DECIDED WHETHER OR NOT NERO HAS A CREDIBLE CLAIM ON VORKIE. yOU DONT NEED TO FIND A pARTNER, YOU DONT NEED TO DECIDED WHO IS CONFTOWN. ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS DECIDE. IS VORK AN ENCRYPTOR? DID HE CLAIM HE WAS A TOWN ENCYPTOR? DID HE DENY IT? IF NERO IS LYING, KEEP YOUR VOTE THERE. IF HE IS NOT, VOTE VORK.

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NOM - ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS DECIDED WHETHER OR NOT NERO HAS A CREDIBLE CLAIM ON VORKIE. yOU DONT NEED TO FIND A pARTNER, YOU DONT NEED TO DECIDED WHO IS CONFTOWN. ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS DECIDE. IS VORK AN ENCRYPTOR? DID HE CLAIM HE WAS A TOWN ENCYPTOR? DID HE DENY IT? IF NERO IS LYING, KEEP YOUR VOTE THERE. IF HE IS NOT, VOTE VORK.

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Like if you want to opt out of convo with me thats cool.

just make up your mind and consign us to our fate either way. Im not interested in fighting you. Im pretty sure thats what the last 20 pages were - fighting.

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Nom, you are pushing me and pk as a team b/c he's echoing me. Vork is echoing you. So y is that not scummy of him and y r u not parinoid?

You've been literally typing the EXACT SAME REASONING, you and PK!!! My brain is l-iterally melting

Nero and I have played many games together. We actually have a lot of similarities in our basal playstyles.

Maybe Im actually an encryptor?

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VOTE: vork

[pisskop]

stop

full stop.


All you need to decide is: is nero lying? period. stop your other oral flatulence.

[pisskop]

stop

full stop.


All you need to decide is: is nero lying? period. stop your other oral flatulence.

[pisskop]

Nom.


What nero is trying to say is that the optimal scum strat for me, regardless of nero's alignment, is not to side with him. And I agree. Its bad play to hard tr the player who apparently wants you hardlynched tomorrow, and flipflops on you until death.

My scumgame isnt anything like my play here. Do you care to metadive?


otoh, vorkuta's game is like this. ive provided clear examples of it.

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And when we're done with vork, Ill show you skit's too. We are the town, and they arent going to fry if you dont come back in and open up.

[pisskop]

This is what vork does as scum. regardless of his odds, he spams. he flipflops rapidly until an oppurtunity presents itself. and skitter? well shit, Ive documented all of her oddball convos with urap.

youre letting your emotions and frustrations with the later gamedays push you into this corner. just pause and take it one step at a time, clearly explain, please, why skit is a mechanical clear, if nero isnt lying. then explain why you think he is or is not lying. step by step. The logic doesnt lie. If you have to say 'but', and you'll know it when you do, then you'll know that youve found out why the game is so frustrating.

[pisskop]

no

[pisskop]

Im saying I could be beloved for all you know and it doesnt change the game any

[pisskop]

Nero has a guilty on vork.

Do you believe him? i cant believe that needs to be asked, but here we are.

[pisskop]

Alright, creature agrees with my analysis of vork.


nom. we need you to weigh in and join the rest of town

[pisskop]

Maybe Nero Cain could like check pisskop?

creature, did you have a tr on me yesterday?

[pisskop]

wheb you are ready to, vote.

nom os the xfactor here

[pisskop]

indeed he is much more aggressive as scum

[pisskop]

Skitter is conftown

how?

please explain this to me. i dont see it.

[pisskop]

that this analysis would confirm Skitter as tow

please break this down for me. I do not see how this confirms anyone as town?

[pisskop]

What Im looking for is like thus:

- Skitter is vanilla, according to nero
- Vanilla town is a role
- rolecops return roles, which nero claimed to be
- thus nero outed his result that skit is vanilla [town]

[pisskop]

What is your logic that skitter is confed?

[pisskop]

A urap-vork-skitter team would mean the team is a team consisting of 2 goons, and an encryptor. Those claimed roles has a follow-the-cop built in it. As I said before, the moment a town rolecop checks a doctor, they claim there is a doctor this game, and they can just check the entire town and that's pretty much a town win right there.

they dont though?

We have a rolecop who only guilties on one of the three scum?

[pisskop]

I'm also sorry for insulting you yesterday. Lack of sleep and frustration makes you say really shitty stuff. But honestly that's just frustrating to repeat.

part and parcel of playing mafia.

[pisskop]

not necessarily. Lynching people for being bad or playing their scum meta -> which isnt as well defined as in say me or nero -> is a weaker move than lynching for info or other things. Day 2 though, yes. If i had decided to actually play to my fullest and push for it, it would have been better.

Vork is often left alone because he always posts a lot, and it is usually fluff or unsubstantial. this anti-town play works especially well for him when he rolls scum. When I was a newer player I once said that I purposely play bad as town to make my scumgame easier to hide.

[pisskop]

Lynches on day 1 or two are as much about info as SRs. Compromises should be made, or can be, on D1 or 2. Town works by working together.

[pisskop]

does it make sense to you that this is a town rolecop? Do you understand why I am voting Nero here?

An encryptor is very powerful.

We have a

-vanilla-cop/vig
-doc
-miller
-rolecop

-encryptor
-goon x2

Am i understanding this right?

[pisskop]

nomnomnom- JOAT 1-shot tracker & GS
pisskop- miller 2 shot doctor
skitter30- VT
Nero Cain- rolecop
Creature- VT
Vorkuta- VT

[pisskop]

yea.

GS?

[pisskop]

gunsmith

[pisskop]

you know. having all the claims on the table it does make a little less senses?

[pisskop]

VOTE: unvote