Micro 881_Tourist Trap | GAME OVER

[TeamWorldwide]

I'm going to tell you right now, just looking at this player list, there's a ton of hydras.
There's enough players in hydra slots to fill this game on it's own, plus 5 non-hydra slots. So I most definitely don't want to see a lot of lurking going on.

It is in everyone's best interests to claim whether or not you are a BP as soon as you post; failure to do so will most likely result in you being lynched day one.

Not BP

MaryJoLisa

: Do you feel like you'll do better in this game, after completing micro 875? And do you have more experience with this setup than that game?

Typhon Jam

: What is your stance on signing posts on a hydra account? How do you feel about your first ever game? (according to MaryJoLisa)

AzoriusSenate

: What is your favorite tactic to get reads on players? Have you ever played this setup before?

TeamWorldwide

: I'm not familiar with any of the heads of this hydra, what sort of mafia experience do you all have? I'd like an answer from each head if possible.

Hectic

: If you could answer the above question as well, that would be great. How do you feel your chances are this game?

Inferno390

: Do you play much mafia? The very very brief search I did on you turned up mish-mash and hosting stuff, but not much in the way of mafia games.

RadiantTroubadour

: I'd like for us to get on the same wavelength as soon as possible, so if you could just immediately send a mountain of stuff at me rather than spreading it over weeks, that would be great. I look forward to working with you if you're town.

Jingle

: Are you ready for more happy jingle memes from me this game? Also, please be town this game.

Gamma Emerald

: I really feel like I should know you, but I think you joined the site shortly before I site flaked. How do you feel about 'active' lurking?

I think I'm mainly concerned at the number of other players I need to be able to read for this micro game. I'm reasonably sure that we'll do fine, but I thought that in 875 as well and despite lynching scum d1 we still went to lylo before winning.

Also, screw Jingle for posting inb4 game start.

VOTE: Jingle

~tn5421

hello, we are not a BP

for my mafia experience check out this

~osetr

[TeamWorldwide]

The fuck is that you just linked

um... oops
the link didn't copy
i meant this

[TeamWorldwide]

Not BP

Also,

Not Scum

To what do we owe the honour of your RVS vote, Inferno?

claiming not scum is probably a meme but it still feels odd to me
i'll keep my eye on you

[TeamWorldwide]

tn's entrance feels weird to me.

Also, hard veto on lynching RC or tn today.

tn's entrance felt normal to me, wdym?

also wdym by "hard veto"?

[TeamWorldwide]

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RadiantTroubadour

: I'd like for us to get on the same wavelength as soon as possible, so if you could just immediately send a mountain of stuff at me rather than spreading it over weeks, that would be great. I look forward to working with you if you're town.

~tn5421

Why does this read like pocketing to me?

it's more just a friendly conversation imo. i doubt anyone would pocket this early

[TeamWorldwide]

If I think that tn is scum I will not hold back from lynching him, warning you now.

townie reaction imo

doubt scum will be so agressive

it kinda depends on the playstyle tho

what's radiant's playstyle?

[TeamWorldwide]

Aggressive..

nevermind then

then it's NAI

[TeamWorldwide]

inferno, what is your read on me?

asking for reads on you so early in d1 feels kinda lamist imo
there wasn't enough info to go off of, for me at least

[TeamWorldwide]

I get the feeling that Conflict is looking for points of manipulation on the players and/or dipping his toes in the water to see what he’s playing against. I’m going to parse it a little bit later, but it is definitely off.

I think VOTE: Conflict is okay for now. Not sold on it, but it’s worth a couple of looks at.

it depends on how you view it. i viewed it as just something that would help read others even without meta in play (mostly)

[TeamWorldwide]

Nah, there's 5 players who have posted, and I'm like 70% that it's 1 and 1 scum.

finding scum by timezones what a play

[TeamWorldwide]

If ferno scum, RC/tn both town, btw.

And if I’m town?

Insufficient data to extrapolate.

wasn't there insufficient for the other scenario too?

[TeamWorldwide]

You have posted very little sortable content

This is actually untrue, but very few people in this game have any ability when it comes to sorting me.

feels lamisty

"i posted good content and you must read me
you don't have a read on me? ok i'll vote you"

[TeamWorldwide]

If ferno scum, RC/tn both town, btw.

I feel like Inferno's poking around is genuine right now? Why do you think otherwise?

I agree ferno scum means tn town at least though

can we please use the hydra account names because i'm getting a bit confused, thanks in advance

[TeamWorldwide]

isnt that what mafia is about

True, but I mean they just threw something out and are making crap up because they hadn't thought that far

Gonna level with you im not sure what the scum motive is

I think most people when scum try to find some basis for their reads before they out them...?

the scum motive could've been to gain town points but this is a bit farfetched

[TeamWorldwide]

isnt that what mafia is about

True, but I mean they just threw something out and are making crap up because they hadn't thought that far

Gonna level with you im not sure what the scum motive is

I think most people when scum try to find some basis for their reads before they out them...?

I think the “reasoning” was that I was not going to try and spontaneously generate a read on him, when my play is often to come into the game giving a million analyses and throwing reads around. My point is that there is very little here for me to analyze, nor is he currently posting things I normally analyze. So this “if you don’t have a read on me I’m going to vote you” thing is really funky.

very townie post
welcome to my towncore

[TeamWorldwide]

You have posted very little sortable content

This is actually untrue, but very few people in this game have any ability when it comes to sorting me.

Why are you condemning him off this, then?

The issue isn't that he's inaccurately reading me. The issue is that he's pushing someone else over something I'm blatantly doing and claiming that I haven't done anything AI.

i mean if you think some of the stuff you're doing is AI doesn't mean that it's AI for us too

[TeamWorldwide]

Conflict of Interest:

This is my first game on this site, but I've played a few games on my university's mafia society forum. I think my chances are lower than average.

All the hydras in this game scare me; are hydras harder or easier to read than an individual?

Also, why is it good to claim bp straight away? My understanding is that it'd be a confirmed town that is risky to shoot at by mafia in the night, but couldn't mafia then have a roleblocker, given they're in the same column?

hydras can contradict each other meaning it is easier to squeeze out info which wouldn't be able to be squeezed out in solo games

as for bp, i think it's because it shows the town where we are in the table, but i dont know the full intentions

[TeamWorldwide]

You have posted very little sortable content

This is actually untrue, but very few people in this game have any ability when it comes to sorting me.

Why are you condemning him off this, then?

The issue isn't that he's inaccurately reading me. The issue is that he's pushing someone else over something I'm blatantly doing and claiming that I haven't done anything AI.

That’s the thing.
You’re not doing anything like what tn is doing.
Ten is asking these odd questions and making some remarks I find funny, that in my opinion sound like scum trying to get a feel for the players in the game and trying to get a handhold on the game.
Your posting definitely does not have this feel or implications. You’re posting a lot of fluff at the very very basic level. Tn has only made a handful of posts, but they advance the game state in the sense that they have generated discussion between others. You on the other hand are posting a lot, but it’s a lot of meaningless or useless information for sorting/game state.

aren't you contradicting yourself here
you're saying tn is generating discussion but is scumreading him
and you're saying jingle is posting useless info but not scumreading him

[TeamWorldwide]

You have posted very little sortable content

This is actually untrue, but very few people in this game have any ability when it comes to sorting me.

Why are you condemning him off this, then?

The issue isn't that he's inaccurately reading me. The issue is that he's pushing someone else over something I'm blatantly doing and claiming that I haven't done anything AI.

Ok I understand that.
VOTE: Inferno
I'll actually join you here

this feels like you didn't actually check the validity of the statement and instead jumped on the opportunity and buddied jingle
FoS

[TeamWorldwide]

Gamma, have you compared Jingle’s ISO and Conflict’s side by side?

yup you're staying in my towncore
i wasn't sure at first because of your contradiction but for now i'm sure

[TeamWorldwide]

Firstly, I will agree that it feels weird. It’s a lot of words for an entrance I think.
But if it feels weird, wouldn’t you rather push the hydra to see if it obvtowns or not?

Does it read like town pocketing or scum pocketing?

Did you go back to reread his entrance when I called attention to it, or was it a happy accident?

Happy accident. You super ninja’d me.
I feel like, knowing RC is on the other end, it’s scummy. I think if it was town it would have come off a little differently. But I’m not sure.

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RadiantTroubadour

: I'd like for us to get on the same wavelength as soon as possible, so if you could just immediately send a mountain of stuff at me rather than spreading it over weeks, that would be great. I look forward to working with you if you're town.

~tn5421

Why does this read like pocketing to me?

honestly don't understand what you're trying to say here

[TeamWorldwide]

Gamma, have you compared Jingle’s ISO and Conflict’s side by side?

I saw your point but the problem is he says you're suspecting someone with similar posting and you replied saying CoI's posting was different but you also stated a town read on CoI so there's a doubt that Jingle may mean someone else.

did inferno TR Conflict? i thought the exact opposite

[TeamWorldwide]

Also, why is it good to claim bp straight away? My understanding is that it'd be a confirmed town that is risky to shoot at by mafia in the night, but couldn't mafia then have a roleblocker, given they're in the same column?

There is a 1/6 chance that BP is a safeclaim for scum. (The scum PoV is actually 1/4 or 0).

Forcing scum to commit to that earlier as opposed to being able to claim when they're under pressure means it's less so a fakeclaim.

Similarly, Town can safely claim BP as BP and be a functional innocent for the game since scum would need to spend two days shooting them.

Additionally, in the case that we're in Doc/Tracker, Tracker can be assured of the existence of a Doc via the nature of the setup. Which allows for the breaking strat of Follow the Tracker (Tracker claims/Doc protects tracker ad nauseam.

Whether this is actually an optimal strat is fairly well accepted by everyone but me, but the people who know my proposed scum strats to take advantage of it in this game are Jingle and RadiantCowbells.

Which means, of course, that scum Jingle is either not taking advantage of those strats in the interest of pocketing RC, scum Jingle is not taking advantage of those strats because we're in RB, or Jingle is town.

Which further means that in the absence of a roleblocker, RC/Jingle is a functionally impossible team.

i've lost a MyLo because scum self-metad so i'm not going to take this as a serious argument

[TeamWorldwide]

My point is that Jingle is saying that he is doing the same sort of things as tn and I am scumreading Conflict and not him for those things.
A quick ISO comparison shows that their posting is nowhere near similar and a look at my ISO shows that not only have I called a hard scumread on Conflict, I’m pushing the slot for reasons that Jingle in no way has done AND called weird himself.

yup i was correct

[TeamWorldwide]

You're pressuring him for buddying RC and an awkward entrance. (note, you're specifically not scumreading tn, you've made that clear.)

Firstly, I’m not “scumreading” tn either. I’m just putting pressure in the slot’s direction because I think his posting has been weird.

I agree that the entrance was weird. I also have been buddying both RC and tn, and you've been ignoring that, which is also weird. Additionally, you say I haven't been doing anything, when about a third of my ISO is game relevant.

So, to recap:

tn is buddying RC which is specifically objectionable.
Jingle is buddying RC which is NAI.
tn is null.
You're putting pressure on tn.
Jingle is fluffposting and therefore null.
You're not putting pressure on Jingle.

moar pressure, plz.

alright, fair argument, interested to see what inferno's response was

[TeamWorldwide]

All I'm hearing is "I don't want to read meta, I want TN to be scum because he's a threat to me"

what/who are you talking about exactly?

[TeamWorldwide]

respect for his endgame solving ability and a belief he will obvtown as town.

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RadiantTroubadour

: I'd like for us to get on the same wavelength as soon as possible, so if you could just immediately send a mountain of stuff at me rather than spreading it over weeks, that would be great. I look forward to working with you if you're town.

~tn5421

Why does this read like pocketing to me?

It's interesting that you didn't bring this up until after jingle passed the game-solve buck to me. Before you were perfectly happy to townread me.
What changed, you ask?
You didn't check out my meta.
All it took was one respected person pointing out that I'm good at solving later for you to start hard pushing me.
The worst part is that you didn't even scumread Jingle for doing the same kinds of things I did.

So.
You might wanna walk that push back now.

~tn

fairly sure those two posts were unrelated at the time

[TeamWorldwide]

I'm not interested in engaging your bullshit today

weak but townie response imo
i think scum would've kept pushing

[TeamWorldwide]

can you guys stop tvt'ing for a bit

tn why tf are you townreading gamma lmao

why tvt exactly?

[TeamWorldwide]

@inferno how do you think the entrance should've been written like then?

@radiant yeah i agree. town has much less info to work with so it makes sense if they can't keep up with scum info-wise so much easier to contradict.

if the indicator of TvT is arguing because of misinterpretations, then what's the indicator of TvS?

[TeamWorldwide]

Hi what’s happening

Warning that I’m probably not going to be doing much this game, will be leaving it to my other heads

-Mist

[TeamWorldwide]

Hi what’s happening

Warning that I’m probably not going to be doing much this game, will be leaving it to my other heads

-Mist

Did Oestr mention why he didn't vote gamma in wherever you guys are communicating?

Not that I remember

We’ve mainly been communicating on discord which I can’t access rn so I can’t be sure

-Mist

[TeamWorldwide]

Hi what’s happening

Warning that I’m probably not going to be doing much this game, will be leaving it to my other heads

-Mist

Who are you, Mist?

(Che)mist(1422)

-Mist

[TeamWorldwide]

I'm getting some people confused. TeamWorldwide, are you guys posting as one voice, or are you breaking up your posts by user? I noticed Osetr signed a post. (BTW, Hi, Osetr!)

What makes you guys so worldwide? I know where Osetr's from, but what time zones are Chemist and Phone in, and are they actively posting?

--MJL

hey mjl!
it was all me, osetr
we are worldwide because i'm asia (kazakhstan), phone is europe (netherlands), and chemist is america (usa)

[TeamWorldwide]

TOWN BLOC:

me
Jingle
RadiantTroubadour
Austerity

SCUMTEAM:

Conflict of Interest
Gamma Emerald

no way we're null for you after a bajilion posts i've done

i would respond to other stuff but it's 0:00 and i'll go to sleep soon

also not tracker

[TeamWorldwide]

Because when LHF get wagoned, they often get lynched, regardless of alignment. And if he's town, which statistically speaking he probably is if you have no read on him, we've lost a mislynch and gained nothing.

...whos LHF?

[TeamWorldwide]

Azor’s posting is terrible.
But taking him to L-1 is really dumb atp. So I’ll keep my vote where it is. Since CoI’s posting is also really dumb.
Speaking of which, time to parse.

i didnt really notice anything terrible with both azor and coi, wdym?

[TeamWorldwide]

Statistically speaking if we sit here with our thumbs up our asses and never vote anyone we'll all die to the mafia.

I mean, yes, of course. But there's a middle ground between never lynching and running up a policy wagon barely 24 hours after the start of the game.

The main goal of our townbloc is to form a wagon on someone, so if you're not comfortable with that then you can leave.

you're saying this like your townreads are 100% correct

[TeamWorldwide]

Anyone not in the town!bloc is fair game, I'd suggest staying inside.

The problem here is that townblocs should actually be made of town.

which of his townreads do you two disagree with?

[TeamWorldwide]

In my experience it's always scum who go on and on about townblocs or care about townblocs

i actually experienced the opposite. scum make scumpools and lynchpools to not be on the block while towns prioritize gamesolving and town make both townpools and scumpools

[TeamWorldwide]

Eh. Maybe.

He's def in the Wouldn't Mind Lynching Column.

what would be your current lynch priority starting from wanna-lynch-the-least to wanna-lynch-the-most?

[TeamWorldwide]

AS is town

thanks for the contribution

[TeamWorldwide]

Also @RT if you're going to bully people into voting me you'd best post a fucking case

why is your concern the presence/absence of a case rather than that i'm misreading you

how do you know you're misreading them tho

[TeamWorldwide]

I will actually chest up to anyone who fucks with the town!bloc. As mayor, an attack on me is an attack on your fellow townspeople. Think upon that the next time you dare write my name upon your tablets.

I doesn't matter how you dress it up, OMGUS is OMGUS.

It's funny that you say that after you blatantly vote me following my vote on you. You seem extremely stressed about the pressure on you when we barely out of RVS.

can you give examples?

[TeamWorldwide]

Jesus Inferno please spoiler huge quotes like that in the future.

Austerity is TOWN

what that's completely nai

[TeamWorldwide]

Explain?

Most of his posting makes me think he's trying to get other people to scumread/townread specific players without coming out and scumreading/townreading specific players. I am interested to see what happens when I shine a light on him.

basically, kinda fencesitting?

[TeamWorldwide]

Trobairitz betrayed me by turning yellowon discord. I'm placing this vote anyway.

VOTE: Team Worldwide

interesting, wanna explain?

[TeamWorldwide]

Most of his posting makes me think he's trying to get other people to scumread/townread specific players without coming out and scumreading/townreading specific players.

I will always encourage good arguments and discourage bad ones, whether or not I agree with the argument's conclusion.

I am interested to see what happens when I shine a light on him.

I'll give you a sneak preview: absolutely nothing.

it feels like you're brushing off suspicion here

[TeamWorldwide]

I have no intentions of stopping it immediately at this point, TWW seems pretty obvious scum to me.

thanks for the compliment

[TeamWorldwide]

Spoiler:

This.

guilty

Okay, real talk time. I'm actually the doctor which means that PLAYER is actually the cop. The reason I fakeclaimed BP d1 is because this way I was never going to eat the bullet. What we do now is lynch PLAYER's guilty, and hope to god that they're the RB. If they aren't, we're a little bit fucked, and okay, that's probably my fault, because I'm going to eat the roleblock and PLAYER is going to die tonight.

On D3:

Guys, think about this for a minute. Would I really have claimed BP on D1, not knowing the setup, whether there was a BP that could CC me and basically break the game? That's ballsy as hell, even for me.

OR

inno

Fucking dammit, PLAYER. Have you seriously never heard of a doc baiting BP to duck the nightkill? This used to be mafia 101. You've gotta be fucking shitting me with this, cause you just lost the game. Not only am I a viable mislynch now, when I wouldn't have been if you'd just kept investigating and kept your mouth shut (FUCKING AUTOWIN) but you just made sure we have 0 conftown in LYLO. Good job, numbnuts.

OR (And this is my favorite)

guilty on me

LMAO. This is the weakest fake CC I've ever seen. Why would a cop investigate me? That's insane. I claimed a role that he 'knows' isn't in the setup and somehow I'm worth the night investigating? Bullshit. Let's all lynch The Dark Lord Chuckles, the Silly Piggy over here.

Into, hopefully, D3

Uh. Whoops. Sorry guys, I misread my role PM. It turns out that I'm a mason with Majiffy. Sorry. Don't know how that happened.

i don't understand this, can you explain pls

[TeamWorldwide]

it's the opposite

town should sheep more

town are morons because they know other players are better and still think its correct to go off of their own reads.

>scum leader appears

>let's lynch x, everyone!

>yaaaaaay!

[TeamWorldwide]

I must have missed something. Why would we policy lynch Azorius Senate?

--MJL

we wouldn't.......................................................................

mjl do you have any reads currently? if not, just like general thoughts on happenings?

I do actually have some reads. I've got to do something off the forum first. I'll give a reads list in a few hours.

your pop-ups seem very odd but if the reads are actually coming up that's fine

[TeamWorldwide]

The fuck is that you just linked

um... oops
the link didn't copy
i meant this

Creating a what I learned part is very good because it helps you to see your mistakes and remember to not make them again. I would do that if I wasn't lazy lol

tyty!

[TeamWorldwide]

isnt that what mafia is about

True, but I mean they just threw something out and are making crap up because they hadn't thought that far

Gonna level with you im not sure what the scum motive is

I think most people when scum try to find some basis for their reads before they out them...?

I think the “reasoning” was that I was not going to try and spontaneously generate a read on him, when my play is often to come into the game giving a million analyses and throwing reads around. My point is that there is very little here for me to analyze, nor is he currently posting things I normally analyze. So this “if you don’t have a read on me I’m going to vote you” thing is really funky.

very townie post
welcome to my towncore

Why that posts makes them town?
Also please use an avi

at first i forgot why i considered that a townie post
but now i remember
1) he has the same thought process as me
2) he isn't making reads out of thin air

[TeamWorldwide]

In my experience it's always scum who go on and on about townblocs or care about townblocs

i actually experienced the opposite. scum make scumpools and lynchpools to not be on the block while towns prioritize gamesolving and town make both townpools and scumpools

Who are you talking about lol

just generally

[TeamWorldwide]

for the people who are scumreading our slot due to lack of scumreads/votes:

*drumroll*

...

i barely have any reads
a lot of people here seem similar and also some are referred by the hydra lead names and not the hydra names so idk to who some of the interactions are referred to
i'd have to iso to make reads but i'll do it later because procrastination

[TeamWorldwide]

...whos LHF?

LHF = low hanging fruit = Azorius in that instance. Basically people who are lynchbaity or not hard to lynch as either alignment.

oh lol. i thought that's a player name

[TeamWorldwide]

it feels like you're brushing off suspicion here

Does it make me scum?

i mean yeah, defend properly instead of brushing off suspicion

[TeamWorldwide]

i barely have any reads

This is towny.

how is me having reads townie what

[TeamWorldwide]

i barely have any reads

This is towny.

how is me

not

having reads townie what

ebwop

[TeamWorldwide]

i said i had "barely any reads"
+ i keep forgetting my reads as town because i dont have a good memory :/ especially in a hydra game

[TeamWorldwide]

i said i had "barely any reads"
+ i keep forgetting my reads as town because i dont have a good memory :/ especially in a hydra game

i mean that's fine but

do you still think the post you fos'd is scummy? wb the rest of gamma's content?

i would need to iso dive because i don't even remember the post you're talking about oops

[TeamWorldwide]

the wagon on our slot is trash because none of the voters have a proper case
this most likely implies at least one voter is scum
but i don't remember the voters

[TeamWorldwide]

sorry for the inactivity, will try to provide reads soon after i iso dive

[TeamWorldwide]

townread
townlean
nulltown
null
nullscum
scumlean
scumread

every time a scummy action is made, they go 1 closer to scumread
every time a null action is made, they go 1 closer to null
every time a town action is made, they go 1 closer to townread

radianttroubadour - claiming "not scum" in the first post feels awkward. the action in itself but the tone, given the context, is odd. nullscum

not giving a read on jingle was NAI. null

saying they'd lynch tn even if tn is strongly defended is townie (scum wants easy lynches). nulltown

being fine with someone not being on their wagon means they are fine with making a strong case which would get votes from the rest. townlean

unnecessary self meta in this post. nulltown
"I feel like my current style of play makes it easy for scum to respond naturally slto the posts that I'm making and makes scumhunting harder, even just over the initial few pages."

unnecessary lamist post by katyusha. null
"well the good thing is that im in this game and i'm probably a readable player and like to provide content early and earnestly"

trying to solve the inferno-tn connection. nulltown

vote on hectic felt a bit forced. null

unexplained gamma vote? nullscum

called conflict vs inferno TvT but didn't explain it. IIoA. scumlean

actually nevermind. kinda explained why they didn't explain it. nullscum

actually gave a good explanation on conflict vs inferno. null

initiated the tracker claims i think? nulltown

thinking about gamma's partner before he even flips is scummy imo. it's faking contribution. null

said AS are town but never explained why. nullscum

"Azorius townread is kinda lazy he could actually be scum btw.". scumlean

inserted a vote on our slot but never explained it with the reasoning that "you'd consider it NAI.". scumread

"it's the opposite

town should sheep more

town are morons because they know other players are better and still think its correct to go off of their own reads.". scumread +1

don't want to provide a case because "cases are scummy". scumread +2
(that post may have been a meme, but memephase passed a long time ago)

decent breakdown of inferno vs conflict. scumread +1

fair explanation on conflict townread. scumread

fair austerity read. kinda fencesitty but not in a scummy way. scumlean


final verdict: scumlean

[TeamWorldwide]

will continue later, i have one game at EoD rn

[TeamWorldwide]

EoD in that game ended. coming back to this

[TeamWorldwide]

i have guests in our house ughhhhhhhhhhh

[TeamWorldwide]

inferno analysis

called out CoI on their post which is gut townie. nulltown

scumreads CoI for having a lot of words in their entrance? null

good vote on them later tho. nulltown

is insistant on not having a read on jingle which i think is town perspective. townlean

scumread on CoI kept unnaturally shrinking without explanation? nulltown

frustration feels genuine. townlean

some gamesolvy posts here and there which add up nicely. townread

final verdict: townread

[TeamWorldwide]

every time a scummy action is made, they go 1 closer to scumread
every time a null action is made, they go 1 closer to null
every time a town action is made, they go 1 closer to townread

Why do NAI actions make your read change?

eh, i barely mention them. out of the 2 posted analyses there was only 1 in radiant's analysis

[TeamWorldwide]

jingle analysis

frustration over not rolling scum feels genuine. nulltown

asks for a read on himself after he did 2 posts??? probably NAI

says that tn's entrance is weird but doesn't want to lynch them? null

"respect for his endgame solving ability and a belief he will obvtown as town."
ah, i guess that's a decent explanation. nulltown
has he obvtowned yet?

didn't just accept inferno's statement that CoI is pocketing and rather asked if it's town or scum pocketing. feels town motivated. townlean

agrees that it's hard to sort his content but still pushes people when they are not able to do it? nulltown

actually scratch that. townlean

actually wait
"The issue isn't that he's inaccurately reading me. The issue is that he's pushing someone else over something I'm blatantly doing and claiming that I haven't done anything AI."
so you're saying you're doing AI stuff and that your posts are hard to sort. so, it's hard for others to notice that's it's AI. so you're pushing him for innaccurately reading you. nulltown

didn't explain to me why tn's entrance was weird and didn't really disprove me when i called him out:
"i posted good content and you must read me
you don't have a read on me? ok i'll vote you"
null

doesn't really expxlain his problem with the townbloc other than that it's 50% scum for him, but probably NAI???

i guess they had a decent reason to vote me. nulltown

final verdict: nulltown

[TeamWorldwide]

i'll go to sleep and come back with the rest of the reads

btw sucks that radiant is subbing out, hope you have a good time fam

[TeamWorldwide]

back with my analyses

bows and bells

there was a bit of unwillingness to claim not BP? nullscum

the reads are fine tho. however you null read CoI despite saying that inferno v CoI is TvT. null

they pushed azerius and austerity kinda weak, they brought points but never really developed on them to convince others, and only voted today. nullscum

final verdict: nullscum

[TeamWorldwide]

CoI

the entering post was fine. doesn't read like pocketing to me. nulltown

strong replies with a townie tone to inferno IMO. townlean

"Let's be honest, RC isn't the threat scum!tn is worried about, but Jingle and Katyusha
But since that didn't happen this game I just don't care."
TMI on RC's alignment??? nulltown

wait i misread it. i understand what you mean. townlean

fairly good early d1 reads. townread

i'm fairly sure that inferno vs CoI is indeed TvT. scum, even independent of playstyle, don't respond that agressively (in a good way). plus it was based on misunderstandings. townread +1

the opinion on lynching me just kinda changed randomly? first it was "why is TWW obvscum?" then it changed to "i may help you lynch TWW but i need to discuss it first" then it changed to "i'm not particularly interested in lynching them". explain? townread

final verdict: townread

[TeamWorldwide]

so far

{TWW}
{CoI, Inferno}
{}
{Jingle}
{} - nullpoint
{BaB}
{RT}
{}
{}

[TeamWorldwide]

Gamma analysis

reasonable early vote on jingle. nulltown

supported jingle on a wagon with jingle's reasoning being weak imo (already explained in the jingle analysis). null

doesn't like OMGUS but votes azorius for prematurely voting him? nullscum

i think he's buddying jingle? every time jingle posts an explanation he just seems to reply with something along the lines of "ok" or a simple question. scumlean

final verdict: scumlean

{TWW}
{CoI, Inferno}
{}
{Jingle}
{} - nullpoint
{BaB}
{RT, Gamma}
{}
{}

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austerity analysis

doesn't support a LHF wagon. nulltown

just overall a fair amount of gamesolvy posts here and there. townlean

then calls me obvscum but doesn't include me in the reads list??? nulltown

the reasoning for townreading me is weak, ngl. feels like a forced read. null

frustration over getting scumread feels townie from tone. nulltown

final verdict: nulltown

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azorius analysis

townreads jingle for a NAI post? nullscum

sheeps RT on the gamma wagon and put him in the towncore for that??? scumlean

townread austerity for a one-liner too? scumread

says there isn't much reason to put me in the townbloc but still does it? scumread +1

ok imma be honest, i think that mayor roleplay is townie. i don't think scum does this in a pool of experienced players. scumread

but honestly it just feels like he's just brushing off suspicion this way and giving an excuse to not make cases on his townreads/scumreads. scumread +1

townreads austerity for an obviously NAI post??? scumread +2

eh, i guess the explanation for including me in the townbloc is fine. scumread +1

saying that CoI vs inferno didn't help him solve the alignment when IMO it screams TvT to me is odd. probably NAI

well, the townbloc got dissolved. it probably scratches my previous argument of "excuse to not explain reads". scumread

final verdict: scumread

{TWW}
{CoI, Inferno}
{}
{Jingle, Austerity}
{} - nullpoint
{BaB}
{RT, Gamma}
{Azorius}
{}

[TeamWorldwide]

VOTE: Azorius

[TeamWorldwide]

inserted a vote on our slot but never explained it with the reasoning that "you'd consider it NAI.". scumread

"it's the opposite

town should sheep more

town are morons because they know other players are better and still think its correct to go off of their own reads.". scumread +1

don't want to provide a case because "cases are scummy". scumread +2
(that post may have been a meme, but memephase passed a long time ago)

why are any of these things scum motivated

first is basically an excuse to put naked votes

second is just a smh

third should be obvious to you

[TeamWorldwide]

actually, RT should go 1 slot up because i remember they had a NAI action which moved them 1 slot down

{TWW}
{CoI, Inferno}
{}
{Jingle, Austerity}
{} - nullpoint
{BaB, RT}
{Gamma}
{Azorius}
{}

also, azorius is at L-1 with my vote appareantly
UNVOTE: Azorius

[TeamWorldwide]

when does day end?

[TeamWorldwide]

i can't pressure both of my scumreads because they're both at L-2. that sucks
guess i'll vote BaB for now because they have a way weaker iso than RT

VOTE: Bows and Bells

[TeamWorldwide]

@TWW why are you concerned about L-1ing Azorius? Jingle actually has a point, we're like halfway through the day so we should get a lynch settled

ah, 5 days seemed likr a lot of time

VOTE: azorius

[TeamWorldwide]

i'm fine with both wagons, but azorius is a stronger scumread for me

[TeamWorldwide]

"eh, i guess the explanation for including me in the townbloc is fine. scumread +1"
it moved you one up

+ i said that i think the way you're playing the mayor rp is scummy (explained in the analysis)

[TeamWorldwide]

I'd also like to hear people put me with a partner, I don't think I've seen any of that in the evaluations of the game I have read.

will do later

[TeamWorldwide]

why is katyusha scumreading me because i didnt want to put someone on L-1 lmao

[TeamWorldwide]

just woke up and i see 3 votes on me, lol
sure, but the reason i didnt really do anything with 2 of my wagons being my scumreads is because in one game i had the town was split between 2 peeps and one flipped scum and everyone just cleared the other one when he was scum too, so both the leading wagons ended up flipping scum

will respond to the rest of stuff later when im not as sleepy

[TeamWorldwide]

i will answer everything tomorrow. it's 22:40 for me rn

[TeamWorldwide]

i think i'll replace out @mods

i have 3 other games on other forums and the reason why i joined this was because i thought my 2 other hydra heads would be playing
and they aren't