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Post Post #16 (isolation #0) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:42 am

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Not BP


Also,
Not Scum


To what do we owe the honour of your RVS vote, Inferno?
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Post Post #20 (isolation #1) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:54 am

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I don't have one. Do you think that I should?
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Post Post #21 (isolation #2) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:56 am

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I'm cosplaying as Shoshin by the way. I will be taking everything 100% seriously.
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Post Post #25 (isolation #3) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:01 am

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I don't want to have a read on you when I shouldn't have a read on you.

I am RadiantCowbells. Please don't ask for an autograph, I'm not signing any photos.
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Post Post #28 (isolation #4) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:01 am

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Why hard veto on lynching Tn?
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Post Post #30 (isolation #5) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:02 am

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In post 27, Jingle wrote:
In post 25, RadiantTroubadour wrote:I am RadiantCowbells. Please don't ask for an autograph, I'm not signing any photos.
Can you sign a photo of RAS?
False idols.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #6) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:04 am

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If I think that tn is scum I will not hold back from lynching him, warning you now.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #7) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:06 am

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That's fine. I'm reasonably sure I don't need to point out to you that I don't necessarily need your vote to lynch anyone.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #8) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:08 am

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Priscilla from FE7
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Post Post #44 (isolation #9) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:08 am

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B&B you have 48 hours to submit your pinkies or you will be subject to the full extent of my wrath.
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Post Post #46 (isolation #10) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:10 am

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I would never break your pinkies. Jingle just doesn't want you to confirm yourself as town because he's scum.
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Post Post #58 (isolation #11) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:23 am

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I feel like my current style of play makes it easy for scum to respond naturally slto the posts that I'm making and makes scumhunting harder, even just over the initial few pages.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #12) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:27 am

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What I'm saying is I have no idea how to interpret anyone's posting thus far in this game in reaction to the things that I've said.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #13) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:19 am

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In post 7, Conflict of Interest wrote:RadiantTroubadour: I'd like for us to get on the same wavelength as soon as possible, so if you could just immediately send a mountain of stuff at me rather than spreading it over weeks, that would be great. I look forward to working with you if you're town.
well the good thing is that im in this game and i'm probably a readable player and like to provide content early and earnestly :]

~Katyusha
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Post Post #85 (isolation #14) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:24 am

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In post 69, Jingle wrote:If ferno scum, RC/tn both town, btw.
I feel like Inferno's poking around is genuine right now? Why do you think otherwise?

I agree ferno scum means tn town at least though
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Post Post #87 (isolation #15) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:28 am

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In post 83, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 56, Bows and Bells wrote:
In post 54, Jingle wrote:That was about MJL, btw.
I must teach my hydra partner through effective leadership. When RC requests your pinkies, you give them. That's it, end of story. RC has never mishandled my pinkies before so I have no reason to believe that he'd mishandle them now.

-MJL (Gonna try to remember to sign my posts)
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the finger next to your ring finger :P

anyway im not really strongly scumreading anyone who's posted atp and i dont like any of the non rvs votes currently on the table so

VOTE: hectic
Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 68, Jingle wrote:Introdasting.

VOTE: inferno for reel reels.
In post 69, Jingle wrote:If ferno scum, RC/tn both town, btw.
I'm lost on this
Do you have like a guess to what could lead to that? I think it makes sense, at least the tn part
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Post Post #89 (isolation #16) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:29 am

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isnt that what mafia is about
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Post Post #92 (isolation #17) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:36 am

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In post 91, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 89, RadiantTroubadour wrote:isnt that what mafia is about
True, but I mean they just threw something out and are making crap up because they hadn't thought that far
Gonna level with you im not sure what the scum motive is

I think most people when scum try to find some basis for their reads before they out them...?
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Post Post #105 (isolation #18) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:28 pm

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... wig

VOTE: gamma

hectic, as gamma said roleblockers only stop active abilities. if there's a bp we prevent scum from fakeclaiming it (which they can do in the jk/vt/goon setup), get a conftown that if shot doesn't add to our mislynches so theres little utility in the protection claimed or not (besides obviously forcing scum to spend 2 phases to kill a bp), and if there's no bp but there is a tracker they can claim so that the doctor can protect them in secret every night for a psuedo follow the cop (the second part gamma is referring to). this is widely agreed to be the optimal play for the setup and was found late into its life by my other head actually :P

hydras can be annoying to read sometimes if you have different reads on the different heads, but for the most part as long as both players communicate with each other theyre usually cohesive enough to be read as a single unit
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Post Post #168 (isolation #19) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:30 pm

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can you guys stop tvt'ing for a bit

tn why tf are you townreading gamma lmao
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Post Post #171 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:50 pm

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I feel like that was kind of obviously katy lmoa

Im probably going to go more in depth on This Read wrt inferno/tn when everyone else posts content, i think rn it helps to keep some of my cards close to my chest and see maybe if they naturally realize theyre wrong *shrug*
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Post Post #172 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:50 pm

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I referred to myself in the 3rd person ftr this is still katy :pensive:
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Post Post #209 (isolation #22) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:08 am

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In post 193, TeamWorldwide wrote:this feels like you didn't actually check the validity of the statement and instead jumped on the opportunity and buddied jingle
FoS
please follow through on this fos because i got the same vibe and i think the rest of his posts are generally scummy :( - i think contradictions and the like are more likely to be town indicative ftr since scum are more likely to construct a thought process and thus are able to keep track of it better (which is like, vaguely supported by actual research btw! i wrote a research paper on cue theory wrt deception and even though cues are shit it's one that reoccurred often and generally was indicative of honesty)

also i called coi/inferno tvt because it's kind of blatantly so? it's clear that they scumread each other because of misinterpretations and are arguing as a result of the other misinterpreting them... i townread both of them independently as well, inferno more so than coi but they also both have clear negative associatives with gamma who i am fairly confident is scum rn. if there's a necessity to defend them then i will, but for now i think it's more productive to let the inferno wagon move along until AS, BnB, and Hectic's slot weigh in on it
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Post Post #211 (isolation #23) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:34 am

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In post 210, TeamWorldwide wrote:if the indicator of TvT is arguing because of misinterpretations, then what's the indicator of TvS?
I wouldn't call it an indicator, like scum *can* feel misinterpreted and push against it... It's just the way it feels to me and I don't really know how to expand on it, like I guess the scumreads feel real to me? I've definitely been in their positions before and tbh the only time it ever became a full on fight was when it was tvt anyway. maybe scum are just less inclined to push against a townie when they know theyre deliberately misinterpreting someone? but I don't think either of them are deliberately being obstinate in any way, if i'm somehow wrong about either of them im not even sure how indicative their reads actually would be of them being scum here but i actually feel oddly confident abt the gamestate so far, which is weird esp considering raybells and i haven't really synced up yet
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Post Post #213 (isolation #24) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:50 am

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In post 212, Inferno390 wrote:comes across as an attempt to gauge the level of town that he is having to play against.
i feel like thats kind of obvious to figure out even without having to ask? when i roll scum usually the first thing i do is profile the players im up against and if i dont know them that requires reading games

there's a few nonestablished players but i think it's natural the ones in hydras are going to have slightly more experience than hectic, and everyone else sans the hydra heads who dont play on ms are easy to research
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Post Post #216 (isolation #25) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:39 am

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I'm interpreting their posts as all from Osetr
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Post Post #221 (isolation #26) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:11 am

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Spoiler: not bp claims
In post 3, Jingle wrote:Hard claim not BP.
In post 8, Inferno390 wrote:I claim not BP.
In post 11, Bows and Bells wrote:Not BP
In post 80, Gamma Emerald wrote:I claim not BP
In post 173, TeamWorldwide wrote:hello, we are not a BP
In post 218, Austerity wrote:I do not have a bulletproof vest.
In post 219, AzoriusSenate wrote:NOT BP


so every slot's claimed not bp, so tracker claims are next. we are not tracker
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Post Post #223 (isolation #27) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:12 am

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In post 220, AzoriusSenate wrote:I've skimmed up until now. I don't have much to comment on so far.
would you like to vote gamma? :]
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Post Post #229 (isolation #28) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:15 am

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wow! :D

did you just vote him bc i asked or did you see something? + also if you tr jingle why not push inferno
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Post Post #232 (isolation #29) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:17 am

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In post 231, TeamWorldwide wrote:Hi what’s happening

Warning that I’m probably not going to be doing much this game, will be leaving it to my other heads

-Mist
Did Oestr mention why he didn't vote gamma in wherever you guys are communicating?
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Post Post #257 (isolation #30) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:39 am

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In post 252, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also @RT if you're going to bully people into voting me you'd best post a fucking case
now i know how raybells feels :pensive:

it'll come, dont worry
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Post Post #261 (isolation #31) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:41 am

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In post 258, Conflict of Interest wrote:Have you, like, actually read Open 569? I absolutely push when I feel slighted.
again, i believe that and thats why i said the fact that ppl felt slighted was not explicitly indicative of tvt
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Post Post #285 (isolation #32) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:59 am

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In post 276, Jingle wrote:So, gamma. You're like, actually posting. What the hell?

I dig it, don't get me wrong, but there's about 3000% less lurksauce in your ISO than I've come to expect.
bwuh

gamma has never been a lurker lmao...

he flakes a lot because of internet issues iirc
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Post Post #289 (isolation #33) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:02 am

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i have mixed feelings about it being coi/gamma and still kinda want mjl and her friend to post like, game content before i really think about gamma's partner

pedit: i dont think self deprecation is a real scum tell :dead:
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Post Post #326 (isolation #34) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:47 am

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AS is town
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Post Post #334 (isolation #35) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:52 am

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In post 252, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also @RT if you're going to bully people into voting me you'd best post a fucking case
why is your concern the presence/absence of a case rather than that i'm misreading you
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Post Post #336 (isolation #36) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:54 am

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if it's really necessary i'll case gamma once b&b have readable content

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Post Post #352 (isolation #37) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:59 am

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In post 339, Jingle wrote:VOTE: Austerity

tn, may I have your vote?
Why are you pushing Austerity here?
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Post Post #358 (isolation #38) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:03 am

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Did everyone claim NOT BP yet?
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Post Post #359 (isolation #39) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:03 am

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Did everyone claim NOT BP yet?
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Post Post #365 (isolation #40) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:06 am

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Azorius townread is kinda lazy he could actually be scum btw.
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Post Post #369 (isolation #41) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:08 am

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that is an RC post as well.

I'm currently asking for my hydra partner's permission to change the vote because I believe I have fairly hard caught scum.
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Post Post #371 (isolation #42) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:09 am

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nty
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Post Post #372 (isolation #43) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:09 am

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reactions are for shmucks
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Post Post #373 (isolation #44) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:09 am

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Real Men powerlynch their prey.
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Post Post #374 (isolation #45) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:09 am

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they also only jungle.
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Post Post #377 (isolation #46) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:10 am

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Trobairitz betrayed me by turning yellowon discord. I'm placing this vote anyway.

VOTE: Team Worldwide
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Post Post #380 (isolation #47) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:11 am

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Anything that you read to determine people's alignments I probably consider NAI and my reason for the vote would probably be considered NAI to you.
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Post Post #383 (isolation #48) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:13 am

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Also in JK9er sure you probably win if you claim JK. But you have 3/4 chance of screwing yourself. If you're a trash scum player who can't do better than 1/4 winrate, sure, check yourself.
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Post Post #386 (isolation #49) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:14 am

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im fine with the worldwide vote lmao i was busy making dinner

gamma is still scum though :pensive:

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In post 377, RadiantTroubadour wrote:Trobairitz betrayed me by turning yellowon discord. I'm placing this vote anyway.

VOTE: Team Worldwide
Stop this immediately.
why are you sure theyre town?
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Post Post #387 (isolation #50) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:15 am

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or rather not a good lynch
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Post Post #389 (isolation #51) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:15 am

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I have no intentions of stopping it immediately at this point, TWW seems pretty obvious scum to me.
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Post Post #390 (isolation #52) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:15 am

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I have no intentions of stopping it immediately at this point, TWW seems pretty obvious scum to me.
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Post Post #393 (isolation #53) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:17 am

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???

Cop doesn't CC you. He just does his thing.
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Post Post #395 (isolation #54) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:18 am

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Why CC you when you're gonna be confirmed town when he flips?

He ccs you on D2 with essentially 2 results.
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Post Post #397 (isolation #55) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:19 am

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What if I just say hi I'm the best sheep me
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Post Post #400 (isolation #56) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:22 am

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not gonna work, because you should have known that by claiming BP you were creating a situation by which the tracker would not out when it would be optimal to you.

With a bunch of newbies sure. gl trying to pull that one on me.
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Post Post #403 (isolation #57) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:24 am

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terrible reason to townread someone.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #58) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:26 am

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playing in lobbies with a bunch of people who want to be town leader is really obnoxious
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Post Post #418 (isolation #59) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:38 am

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i want to win and unless someone's secretly a god my reads are statistically better than other people's.
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Post Post #430 (isolation #60) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:46 am

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it's the opposite

town should sheep more

town are morons because they know other players are better and still think its correct to go off of their own reads.
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Post Post #456 (isolation #61) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:35 am

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i'm not counting this in my wr b/c hydra game etc etc

i enjoy catching scum i really can't be assed to push them.

do what you want, but if you want to win you should be listening to me.
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Post Post #459 (isolation #62) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:50 am

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i think AS is a lot more town than coi? i dont really know tn too well so if you have specific insight that makes him town that'd be nice. inferno and AS I agree are town, BnB is null, I think Austerity is townier than TWw (i had them as a decent townread until i realized they werent voting gamma at the time i told raybells that read so i rescinded that)

ftr i havent read since my last post

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Post Post #461 (isolation #63) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:52 am

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In post 412, Conflict of Interest wrote:Can we please just PL AS so we can continue the game?
uh

when did it become a pl and not a scumread
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Post Post #463 (isolation #64) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:53 am

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i spell thoughts like that because im a thot

wig!
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Post Post #465 (isolation #65) » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:56 am

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In post 464, Bows and Bells wrote:I must have missed something. Why would we policy lynch Azorius Senate?

--MJL
we wouldn't.......................................................................

mjl do you have any reads currently? if not, just like general thoughts on happenings? :)
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Post Post #555 (isolation #66) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:13 am

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In post 514, TeamWorldwide wrote:how do you know you're misreading them tho
uhm wig
In post 551, Inferno390 wrote:RC seems tonally off. Somehow he seems different than when I’ve played against RC!town before.
Gonna keep an eye on the slot.
are you sure you're not reading my posts as raybells
Gamma Emerald wrote:
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That's all well and good but how do I know you're not cheating
uhm wig

tww you said you had no reads (im assuming that was oestr? correct me if wrong) but earlier you said you fos'd gamma and have done nothing to follow up on that read even as a collective - whats poppin there
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Post Post #556 (isolation #67) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:15 am

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In post 500, Bows and Bells wrote:AzoriusSenate: Scum lean, but maybe they’re being so scummy that they wouldn’t make it this obvious?
TeamWorldwide (Chemist1422 + Osetr + Phone0Ix): I guess null read. Typhon Jam notices TWW (Osetr) appearing too willing to town read people and he’s not spending time trying to work anyone into a scum slot with the possible exception of Jingle, who he makes a point of calling LAMIST in two different posts.
agree abt tww, with AS what's making you think "too scummy to be scum" specifically? he's approaching the game in a way that's not conventional sure but it looks town motivated to me

also jingle already said what i was going to say about like, townreading the bp/tracker stuff
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Post Post #560 (isolation #68) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:29 am

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In post 559, TeamWorldwide wrote:i said i had "barely any reads"
+ i keep forgetting my reads as town because i dont have a good memory :/ especially in a hydra game
i mean that's fine but

do you still think the post you fos'd is scummy? wb the rest of gamma's content?
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Post Post #563 (isolation #69) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:53 am

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im... im not raybells :(

i sign when like it's not obvious i think from context? rc never signs tho lol so i guess i'll take that mantle up even when i outright say im not raybells

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Post Post #564 (isolation #70) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:58 am

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Spoiler: katy iso
In post 84, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 7, Conflict of Interest wrote:RadiantTroubadour: I'd like for us to get on the same wavelength as soon as possible, so if you could just immediately send a mountain of stuff at me rather than spreading it over weeks, that would be great. I look forward to working with you if you're town.
well the good thing is that im in this game and i'm probably a readable player and like to provide content early and earnestly :]

~Katyusha
In post 85, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 69, Jingle wrote:If ferno scum, RC/tn both town, btw.
I feel like Inferno's poking around is genuine right now? Why do you think otherwise?

I agree ferno scum means tn town at least though
In post 87, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 83, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 56, Bows and Bells wrote:
In post 54, Jingle wrote:That was about MJL, btw.
I must teach my hydra partner through effective leadership. When RC requests your pinkies, you give them. That's it, end of story. RC has never mishandled my pinkies before so I have no reason to believe that he'd mishandle them now.

-MJL (Gonna try to remember to sign my posts)
Tf is a pinkie
the finger next to your ring finger :P

anyway im not really strongly scumreading anyone who's posted atp and i dont like any of the non rvs votes currently on the table so

VOTE: hectic
Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 68, Jingle wrote:Introdasting.

VOTE: inferno for reel reels.
In post 69, Jingle wrote:If ferno scum, RC/tn both town, btw.
I'm lost on this
Do you have like a guess to what could lead to that? I think it makes sense, at least the tn part
In post 89, RadiantTroubadour wrote:isnt that what mafia is about
In post 92, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 91, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 89, RadiantTroubadour wrote:isnt that what mafia is about
True, but I mean they just threw something out and are making crap up because they hadn't thought that far
Gonna level with you im not sure what the scum motive is

I think most people when scum try to find some basis for their reads before they out them...?
In post 105, RadiantTroubadour wrote:... wig

VOTE: gamma

hectic, as gamma said roleblockers only stop active abilities. if there's a bp we prevent scum from fakeclaiming it (which they can do in the jk/vt/goon setup), get a conftown that if shot doesn't add to our mislynches so theres little utility in the protection claimed or not (besides obviously forcing scum to spend 2 phases to kill a bp), and if there's no bp but there is a tracker they can claim so that the doctor can protect them in secret every night for a psuedo follow the cop (the second part gamma is referring to). this is widely agreed to be the optimal play for the setup and was found late into its life by my other head actually :P

hydras can be annoying to read sometimes if you have different reads on the different heads, but for the most part as long as both players communicate with each other theyre usually cohesive enough to be read as a single unit
In post 168, RadiantTroubadour wrote:can you guys stop tvt'ing for a bit

tn why tf are you townreading gamma lmao
In post 171, RadiantTroubadour wrote:I feel like that was kind of obviously katy lmoa

Im probably going to go more in depth on This Read wrt inferno/tn when everyone else posts content, i think rn it helps to keep some of my cards close to my chest and see maybe if they naturally realize theyre wrong *shrug*
In post 172, RadiantTroubadour wrote:I referred to myself in the 3rd person ftr this is still katy :pensive:
In post 209, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 193, TeamWorldwide wrote:this feels like you didn't actually check the validity of the statement and instead jumped on the opportunity and buddied jingle
FoS
please follow through on this fos because i got the same vibe and i think the rest of his posts are generally scummy :( - i think contradictions and the like are more likely to be town indicative ftr since scum are more likely to construct a thought process and thus are able to keep track of it better (which is like, vaguely supported by actual research btw! i wrote a research paper on cue theory wrt deception and even though cues are shit it's one that reoccurred often and generally was indicative of honesty)

also i called coi/inferno tvt because it's kind of blatantly so? it's clear that they scumread each other because of misinterpretations and are arguing as a result of the other misinterpreting them... i townread both of them independently as well, inferno more so than coi but they also both have clear negative associatives with gamma who i am fairly confident is scum rn. if there's a necessity to defend them then i will, but for now i think it's more productive to let the inferno wagon move along until AS, BnB, and Hectic's slot weigh in on it
In post 211, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 210, TeamWorldwide wrote:if the indicator of TvT is arguing because of misinterpretations, then what's the indicator of TvS?
I wouldn't call it an indicator, like scum *can* feel misinterpreted and push against it... It's just the way it feels to me and I don't really know how to expand on it, like I guess the scumreads feel real to me? I've definitely been in their positions before and tbh the only time it ever became a full on fight was when it was tvt anyway. maybe scum are just less inclined to push against a townie when they know theyre deliberately misinterpreting someone? but I don't think either of them are deliberately being obstinate in any way, if i'm somehow wrong about either of them im not even sure how indicative their reads actually would be of them being scum here but i actually feel oddly confident abt the gamestate so far, which is weird esp considering raybells and i haven't really synced up yet
In post 213, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 212, Inferno390 wrote:comes across as an attempt to gauge the level of town that he is having to play against.
i feel like thats kind of obvious to figure out even without having to ask? when i roll scum usually the first thing i do is profile the players im up against and if i dont know them that requires reading games

there's a few nonestablished players but i think it's natural the ones in hydras are going to have slightly more experience than hectic, and everyone else sans the hydra heads who dont play on ms are easy to research
In post 216, RadiantTroubadour wrote:I'm interpreting their posts as all from Osetr
In post 221, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
not bp claims


so every slot's claimed not bp, so tracker claims are next. we are not tracker
In post 223, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 220, AzoriusSenate wrote:I've skimmed up until now. I don't have much to comment on so far.
would you like to vote gamma? :]
In post 229, RadiantTroubadour wrote:wow! :D

did you just vote him bc i asked or did you see something? + also if you tr jingle why not push inferno
In post 232, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 231, TeamWorldwide wrote:Hi what’s happening

Warning that I’m probably not going to be doing much this game, will be leaving it to my other heads

-Mist
Did Oestr mention why he didn't vote gamma in wherever you guys are communicating?
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In post 252, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also @RT if you're going to bully people into voting me you'd best post a fucking case
now i know how raybells feels :pensive:

it'll come, dont worry
In post 261, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 258, Conflict of Interest wrote:Have you, like, actually read Open 569? I absolutely push when I feel slighted.
again, i believe that and thats why i said the fact that ppl felt slighted was not explicitly indicative of tvt
In post 285, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 276, Jingle wrote:So, gamma. You're like, actually posting. What the hell?

I dig it, don't get me wrong, but there's about 3000% less lurksauce in your ISO than I've come to expect.
bwuh

gamma has never been a lurker lmao...

he flakes a lot because of internet issues iirc
In post 289, RadiantTroubadour wrote:i have mixed feelings about it being coi/gamma and still kinda want mjl and her friend to post like, game content before i really think about gamma's partner

pedit: i dont think self deprecation is a real scum tell :dead:
In post 336, RadiantTroubadour wrote:if it's really necessary i'll case gamma once b&b have readable content

~katy
In post 386, RadiantTroubadour wrote:im fine with the worldwide vote lmao i was busy making dinner

gamma is still scum though :pensive:

~katy
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In post 377, RadiantTroubadour wrote:Trobairitz betrayed me by turning yellowon discord. I'm placing this vote anyway.

VOTE: Team Worldwide
Stop this immediately.
why are you sure theyre town?
In post 387, RadiantTroubadour wrote:or rather not a good lynch
In post 459, RadiantTroubadour wrote:i think AS is a lot more town than coi? i dont really know tn too well so if you have specific insight that makes him town that'd be nice. inferno and AS I agree are town, BnB is null, I think Austerity is townier than TWw (i had them as a decent townread until i realized they werent voting gamma at the time i told raybells that read so i rescinded that)

ftr i havent read since my last post

~katy
In post 461, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 412, Conflict of Interest wrote:Can we please just PL AS so we can continue the game?
uh

when did it become a pl and not a scumread
In post 463, RadiantTroubadour wrote:i spell thoughts like that because im a thot

wig!
In post 465, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 464, Bows and Bells wrote:I must have missed something. Why would we policy lynch Azorius Senate?

--MJL
we wouldn't.......................................................................

mjl do you have any reads currently? if not, just like general thoughts on happenings? :)
In post 555, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 514, TeamWorldwide wrote:how do you know you're misreading them tho
uhm wig
In post 551, Inferno390 wrote:RC seems tonally off. Somehow he seems different than when I’ve played against RC!town before.
Gonna keep an eye on the slot.
are you sure you're not reading my posts as raybells
Gamma Emerald wrote:
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That's all well and good but how do I know you're not cheating
uhm wig

tww you said you had no reads (im assuming that was oestr? correct me if wrong) but earlier you said you fos'd gamma and have done nothing to follow up on that read even as a collective - whats poppin there
In post 556, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 500, Bows and Bells wrote:AzoriusSenate: Scum lean, but maybe they’re being so scummy that they wouldn’t make it this obvious?
TeamWorldwide (Chemist1422 + Osetr + Phone0Ix): I guess null read. Typhon Jam notices TWW (Osetr) appearing too willing to town read people and he’s not spending time trying to work anyone into a scum slot with the possible exception of Jingle, who he makes a point of calling LAMIST in two different posts.
agree abt tww, with AS what's making you think "too scummy to be scum" specifically? he's approaching the game in a way that's not conventional sure but it looks town motivated to me

also jingle already said what i was going to say about like, townreading the bp/tracker stuff
In post 560, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 559, TeamWorldwide wrote:i said i had "barely any reads"
+ i keep forgetting my reads as town because i dont have a good memory :/ especially in a hydra game
i mean that's fine but

do you still think the post you fos'd is scummy? wb the rest of gamma's content?
In post 563, RadiantTroubadour wrote:im... im not raybells :(

i sign when like it's not obvious i think from context? rc never signs tho lol so i guess i'll take that mantle up even when i outright say im not raybells

~katy


if any of the posts that were tonally off for raybells are up there it's because theyre not from him lmoa. but if it actually was him would u mind pointing out the post?
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Post Post #566 (isolation #71) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:59 am

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i think tonereading raybells is a meme fwiw? but im just genuinely curious
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Post Post #578 (isolation #72) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:15 am

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In post 573, TeamWorldwide wrote:
In post 560, RadiantTroubadour wrote:
In post 559, TeamWorldwide wrote:i said i had "barely any reads"
+ i keep forgetting my reads as town because i dont have a good memory :/ especially in a hydra game
i mean that's fine but

do you still think the post you fos'd is scummy? wb the rest of gamma's content?
i would need to iso dive because i don't even remember the post you're talking about oops
then lmk when u follow up :P
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In post 61, RadiantTroubadour wrote:What I'm saying is I have no idea how to interpret anyone's posting thus far in this game in reaction to the things that I've said.
Katy, this is a good example of it I think
However, that list does help my perception. It makes more sense. Thanks.
meh that seems kind of normal for him but sure

alo np
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this most likely implies at least one voter is scum
but i don't remember the voters
cases are scummy. wig!
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Post Post #582 (isolation #73) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:25 am

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yeah

it's like, an indication that my wig has been comedically removed from my head in some manner as a response to something

though if it's specifically SNATCHED u gotta say that. there has yet to be WIG SNATCHING this game
Inferno390 wrote:I also would like to know what wig and TWW mean.
teamworldwide, the hydra
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Post Post #626 (isolation #74) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:45 am

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In post 622, Inferno390 wrote:VOTE: Bows and Bells
:?:
Conflict of Interest wrote:VOTE: Austerity
maybe but i'd much rather look in tww/gamma first, i (katy) have gamma as like a near 100% scumflip rn
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In post 481, Inferno390 wrote:RC, I can't believe I'm saying this , but talk to me about CoI. What do you think about the things tn has said?
i mean i can ping him
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Post Post #628 (isolation #75) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:51 am

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i mean same but i dont get what about that conversation prompted a vote

like im at gamma>>tww>>>>>austerity>b&b
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Post Post #631 (isolation #76) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:01 am

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well i meant raybells? do you want our hydra to answer the question or specifically him because i assumed the latter, hence why my slot hasnt answered it yet
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Post Post #633 (isolation #77) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:14 am

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uh you mean raybells specifically answering it or either of us

also wrt to mjl mischaracterizing austerity's iso im not sure it's worthy of a vote, honestly from memory thats how i recalled his posting but isoing yeah it's not 100% correct but, like... scum can easily accurately tell that information? so i dont know if theres scum motive there or if she revealed she isnt actually reading the thread (like it's a weird detail to make up if you want to *look* like you're reading but struggling)
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Post Post #636 (isolation #78) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:40 am

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incorrectly characterizing the matter at which content is made in someone's iso isnt really alignment indicative...

i'll look at coi for you tho
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Post Post #637 (isolation #79) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:43 am

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In post 413, Conflict of Interest wrote:Inferno is going out of his way to bait me to play like I did as scum in Open 569 so he can scumpaint me for it.

And he expects me to believe he hasn't read my meta?

Yeah, no.
i still find this funny because the both of you are like definitely self-aggrandizing the relevancy of your meta, im fairly sure if this is tvt neither of you have ever read each other's games, and even if you have this is not a thought that ever went into inferno's head :pensive:

i think for both of you specifically that kind of thinking is more likely to come from town but tn less so ig
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Post Post #638 (isolation #80) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:44 am

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In post 412, Conflict of Interest wrote:Inferno's Big Quotes: I'll look at this later and discuss with RedFlavor. I meant it when I said I'm not playing your game.
and i think this is reasonable bc i still hold this is tvt and the right thing to do when it gets to the point you're nitpicking every little detail of someone's post in ways that are likely NAI is to just take a step back, especially when you have a hydra partner

rf clearly townreads your slot so im pretty sure thats why tn isnt pushing you anymore
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Post Post #641 (isolation #81) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:48 am

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coi feels like they're genuinely dissonant and doing the reasonable thing to try to stay cohesive and productive in the gamestate

it's town dissonance
Austerity wrote:It's definitely true that my arguments aren't always the easiest to follow, to be fair.

I think that's part of the reason so many people are throwing out lazy scumreads on me.

For everyone scumreading me, I'd like you to answer: do you think I'd be more likely to play this way as scum than as town? How come?
see inferno this is what mjl means :P

i dont know if i really "scumread" you but i certainly dont townread you - it's mostly because the way you approach the game feels like a mid-level player's attempt at deepwolfing. you're saying reasonable things and having reasonable takes so that you get townread but you're not really moving things along productively. i think your posting is largely nai as a result
Inferno390 wrote:I have self-aggrandized my meta this game? Where?
i swear that both of you said "CLEARLY if you read my meta in xyz game you'd do abc!!" but if im hallucinating then wig
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Post Post #642 (isolation #82) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:49 am

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okay you havent lol

sorry im gonna level with you at a certain point i just stopped reading you/tn interactions because i dont think theyre productive :dead:
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Post Post #654 (isolation #83) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:13 am

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VOTE: Gamma

take the fruit
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Post Post #660 (isolation #84) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:38 pm

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In post 659, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:
In post 656, Gamma Emerald wrote:I respect katy as a player outside of their inability to realize they can't read me correctly
uhm wig
woat alt slip
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Post Post #661 (isolation #85) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:38 pm

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(they use the same theme and i forgot to log out okay :( )
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Post Post #664 (isolation #86) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:02 pm

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i mean a player of simyk's caliber i think can only be an alt of someone of raybell's caliber, to be fair...

gamma with this newfound knowledge are you not more concerned about how im reading town you incorrectly :?:
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Post Post #669 (isolation #87) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:42 pm

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In post 668, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also random aside, why did I see you call EeveelutionArmy "Rebecca" in Deja Vu (that's not one of the 2 games I used but I checked it all the same)?
:)

uh anyway the reason i pointed that out is because that one micro is the only time i've misread you once ive actually learned how to read you lmao... i was like 90% confbiased on aero i dont think your posting would have changed it unless you did whatever the specific towntell i was looking for

so... wig
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Post Post #689 (isolation #88) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:41 am

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yeah im lost too
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Post Post #692 (isolation #89) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:43 am

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In post 690, Gamma Emerald wrote:No there was a micro a while back where you tunneled me pretty hard, it was around the time of that first game on that trustanddeceive site (which is defunct now btw)
that is pre "i know how to read gamma" era lmoa

anyway uh so my understanding is that raybells just doesnt want to play mafia because he suspects that RAS is back under new alts, i dont know if thats specifically tied to this game but i understand his personal frustration here <:/
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Post Post #693 (isolation #90) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:44 am

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this sucks i wanted to play lowkey too but now im actually gonna have to try :pensive:

probably once i have a bit more time though
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Post Post #695 (isolation #91) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:49 am

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honestly? i dont remember what said tell was esp considering it was wrong

and no im vvv confident that that era started after that scum game, not during
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Post Post #696 (isolation #92) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:50 am

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well the tell might not be wrong but it's not like purrcocet where you can read him exclusively on its presence or lackthereof
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Post Post #697 (isolation #93) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:51 am

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but honestly i havent really looked that hard into this game, still kind of disappointed austerity didnt even acknowledge The Fruit :(
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Post Post #700 (isolation #94) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:57 am

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inserted a vote on our slot but never explained it with the reasoning that "you'd consider it NAI.". scumread

"it's the opposite

town should sheep more

town are morons because they know other players are better and still think its correct to go off of their own reads.". scumread +1

don't want to provide a case because "cases are scummy". scumread +2
(that post may have been a meme, but memephase passed a long time ago)
why are any of these things scum motivated
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In post 697, RadiantTroubadour wrote:but honestly i havent really looked that hard into this game, still kind of disappointed austerity didnt even acknowledge The Fruit :(
What is "the fruit"?
In post 654, RadiantTroubadour wrote:VOTE: Gamma

take the fruit
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Post Post #703 (isolation #95) » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:03 am

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In post 652, Austerity wrote:You want me to vote? A single vote does nothing. Get a wagon on B&B,
Gamma
, Inferno, or RT, and I'll join it. I've already said this.
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