Starry Night [Game Over]

[unwnd]

Girls please dont dance with me i get nervous when i see U on the dancefloor twerking to chief keef and i dont know what to do ... Please dont talk to me

[unwnd]

I'm probably picking the girl that smells like roses but also someone I feel I'd have good synergy with in terms of the game

[unwnd]

I peer over to the DJ and make cautious but quick strides to the DJ. I'm wearing the fitted suit my mom bought me from goodwill, and I probably forgot to shower. I navigate the dancefloor and awkwardly bump into a couple dancing. "S-sorry", I say and then immediately look away. The DJ doesn't seem to notice I'm there so I try to shout over the music "HELLO? HELLO?" He finally turns to me. I tell him with sheer confidence to please put on "Aphex Twin - syro u473t8+e [141.98] (piezoluminescence mix)".

[unwnd]

Bitmap seems town to me really.

I want to see Shiro post more

because I enjoy reading her posts

so I can sort her more

I like the initiative you're giving thus far but not sure if I agree on the thread

[unwnd]

Bitmap seems town to me really.

I want to see Shiro post more

because I enjoy reading her posts

so I can sort her more

I like the initiative you're giving thus far but not sure if I agree on the thread

This was supposed to say I agree on the read

Sorry I've had too much punch

[unwnd]

Ask popsofctown to Dance

[unwnd]

ew

no

We share the same read, I'm already in a relationship with myself so it'd be platonic dancing

[unwnd]

ew

no

We share the same read, I'm already in a relationship with myself so it'd be platonic dancing

I'm probably not going to get much mileage in the lover PT with someone with a T.S Eliot second post and who goes to hammer something like dance partner at the very start of the game.

I'm not really thinking about the flavor, I see benefit to people just committing because it helps from a read perspective

[unwnd]

I think scum will choose partners that show thread favoritism to them in any context meanwhile Townies are looking for people who have similar priorities

[unwnd]

Thank you

I like to play mafia but also have a little fun sometimes

I have no townreads, just people I agree with more than others

[unwnd]

uhhhhhhh actually I don't

my only guess is you're thinking of pairing with him but I don't understand why that would be a thing you're thinking at all right now

Do you have a read on the people who have seemingly townread you

[unwnd]

pls calibrate your scumdars before the game next time, they are not working

Re-calibrate mine for me then

[unwnd]

pls calibrate your scumdars before the game next time, they are not working

Re-calibrate mine for me then

ok, for starters, please move your scum slider until you can barely see bitmap

I don't remember if you're a gentleman or lady, would you stake this read by asking him to a dance

[unwnd]

I find it really funny that some people think I'm crypto for our similar sense of humor

I haven't talked to crypto in years lol

a) no, and even if i had a strong townread at this point i would not because i am not a dance on the first date kind of dude
b) i'm a lady

a) Is this just you being or cheeky or is it related to a mafia standpoint

[unwnd]

I find it really funny that some people think I'm crypto for our similar sense of humor

I haven't talked to crypto in years lol

a) no, and even if i had a strong townread at this point i would not because i am not a dance on the first date kind of dude
b) i'm a lady

a) Is this just you being or cheeky or is it related to a mafia standpoint

oh so you're some kind weird alt or something huh
and possibly a banned user, rad

a) it is related to mafia. i roll slowly and don't allow myself to become overconfident in reads

I think it's less normal to assume everyone who seems experienced is some kind of weird alt or a banned user. MariaR invited me to this game lol

Second part confusing, what does that mean for your Bitmap read then

[unwnd]

I find it really funny that some people think I'm crypto for our similar sense of humor

I haven't talked to crypto in years lol

a) no, and even if i had a strong townread at this point i would not because i am not a dance on the first date kind of dude
b) i'm a lady

a) Is this just you being or cheeky or is it related to a mafia standpoint

oh so you're some kind weird alt or something huh
and possibly a banned user, rad

a) it is related to mafia. i roll slowly and don't allow myself to become overconfident in reads

I think it's less normal to assume everyone who seems experienced is some kind of weird alt or a banned user. MariaR invited me to this game lol

Second part confusing, what does that mean for your Bitmap read then

most people dont know who crypto is

pls read post 209

Yeah I'm not thrilled by Bitmap either but I have reservations about you as well

Gonna spike the punch and pass out on the dancefloor now, ladies feel free to step on me on your way to the bowl. Peace

[unwnd]

I drunkenly phrase that MariaR hates me and us dancing together would never happen

Cue full pass out

[unwnd]

hic IDK ask her when she gets here hic

[unwnd]

Question -

3 mafia gents/3 mafia ladies correct?

[unwnd]

Question -

3 mafia gents/3 mafia ladies correct?

3 mafia total. Gender is random.

Do you think if there was a gent/lady both scum they would choose each other for distancing purposes or is the selection process more indicative of reading town

Obviously you're clear so this is more of an open question

[unwnd]

Right now I think the ladies have more scum than gents but this could change

I don't know why ank is townread btw

[unwnd]

I think from a game perspective you should partner with someone who is ubiquitously townread @ Kagami

[unwnd]

I think from a game perspective you should partner with someone who is ubiquitously townread @ Kagami

controversial

I can't gauge the common sense of the people playing yet so I'm giving them freebies

[unwnd]

I don't see why preemptive invites are bad, I've never played this setup and I was treating them kinda like a reverse vote, like instead of wanting the person to die you want them to live instead lol

[unwnd]

Dance with Firebringer

You're both gents

[unwnd]

Are gents allowed to dance with other gents? Rules state gents ask ladies and can only dance with them

[unwnd]

I find your read a bit self-assured dunn and maybe a bit weird coming from you

[unwnd]

I find your read a bit self-assured dunn and maybe a bit weird coming from you

I don't think that's weird coming from me, though

I mean, I feel I'm playing a bit more open because I feel inclined to self-advertise but you seemed more like one to mull over your thoughts as town

[unwnd]

None of the ladies seem all that interesting to me but pops reaction to me was townie at the least

[unwnd]

I'm kinda feeling that the active posters are like... all town

maaaaaaaaaaybe one scum

I disagree, I think pre-game would be the best time for scum to establish presence

[unwnd]

I'm kinda feeling that the active posters are like... all town

maaaaaaaaaaybe one scum

I disagree, I think pre-game would be the best time for scum to establish presence

I don't think this has happened

So you disagree with Ceph being scum then? Bitmap? Don't remember your thoughts on those two

[unwnd]

I'm very conflicted on Cephrir and townlean on Bitmap

Gut says Ceph accepted Deas in the manner he did because he felt pressured about the amount of flak he's taken from the thread (see: him saying that he's the most suspected slot)

[unwnd]

Cephrir feels like town to me, what am I missing?

What I notice from him is that he is quickly dismissive of his own decisions, there's a lot of interactions where I feel like he's going to lead with something or have a purpose to get involved and then he just handwaves it. I tried to get him to open up about Bitmap and I didn't really get anything out of it. You'd think with the amount he's posting his direction would be more clear, but it's really not.

I understand it's pre-game but he seems pretty intent on actually trying to play Mafia but then halfway he goes back to a more lax attitude which is lol

[unwnd]

I would stake the pops read if Firebringer ends up being town

..You two should pair

[unwnd]

What I notice from him is that he is quickly dismissive of his own decisions, there's a lot of interactions where I feel like he's going to lead with something or have a purpose to get involved and then he just handwaves it. I tried to get him to open up about Bitmap and I didn't really get anything out of it. You'd think with the amount he's posting his direction would be more clear, but it's really not.

I understand it's pre-game but he seems pretty intent on actually trying to play Mafia but then halfway he goes back to a more lax attitude which is lol

i realize im not qualified to be the person to tell you this but you've just identified that i am still cephrir and have not been replaced with a doppelganger

It just seems a bit contradicting yknow? I'm not sure how you would to represent yourself, unless you are saying you try to do both

[unwnd]

Alright still nothing has synced with me yet, I've dusted myself off and a bit hungover so I'm gonna go pretend to be using the "bathroom" but instead of the bathroom it's just me crying alone in the stall because nobody wants to dance with me

[unwnd]

If this was anyone but you I swear...

Loool what does this mean

[unwnd]

Think Ank/Fire is more spicy but Ank/Maria could solve both slots equally. Unsure about Maria's output thus far besides the murderous glare her avatar is constantly giving me

[unwnd]

P-edit:

Fire/Popsofctown

In my head I think Ank/Fire could have one which is why I probably paired them

[unwnd]

I can feel the uninterested, "oh god why is he here" stare her avatar is constantly giving me*

[unwnd]

Much better.
As tempting as it is to dance with you I feel once again the PT would be sub-optimal and more so you scared of reading me or at least pretending if you're scum.
Pedit: Oh neat thanks Gamma

If this is towards me what's the read you have on me rn

If this is towards dunn then uh I guess same question

[unwnd]

maybe i should pair up with lupin's replacement and we can read the game together lul

I uh

Why did you feel like you needed to post this

[unwnd]

@Firebringer

I was 100% serious about you and ctown being paired, would you be willing to do that even if you scumread them?

[unwnd]

why would anyone pair with a scumread

Because people act different on an individual basis than a public one, and I think that it would be interesting discourse to see how it develops with this in mind

I've considered the same thing myself, because I don't know if this setup is made where scum doesn't pair with a townie intentionally or not

[unwnd]

I'm pretty sure all of the gents have spoken in some regard besides gaiden. I think Oka is weirding me out a bit but I dunno if it's a sure tell. I've been sitting here back and forth about my Ank read but I think that she gets a partner regardless so I'll wait and see. With ank however, I feel like her necessity to state her opinions are pretty widespread and while this is a good trait for town, I don't know if I fully trust it because the opinions she has made thus far are pretty safe/surface level.

Firebringer has an interesting way of dialogue, and his take of pops intrigues me. I was mostly town reading pops but I feel like perhaps he can notice something I've overlooked, but the big thing I wanna see is whether he'll commit to this idea or just keep making audacious statements for sake of well, being audacious. Deas/Oversoul gave me 0 pings and rn Dunn v Maria is engaging enough to let both live, along with the fact they'll probably get partners

[unwnd]

Dunn v Maria is engaging enough to let both live,

it is?

Aye

[unwnd]

Atleast I didn't replace in a fucked up scum slot lol.

Lol nobody partner with Creature he's scum

[unwnd]

I like Maria but I agree our PT would probably be barebones, our way of thinking about the game doesn't match up. I do enjoy the perspective she brings when she's town however

I'm genuinely considering asking Kagami despite being the IC because based on their posts I feel that is more of a match game-wise

[unwnd]

the ideal match for kagami is a very apathetic but decently towny player

U literally just described me

[unwnd]

I was already rejected once publicly by pops so I guess I'll wait to see what Kagami says

[unwnd]

I was already rejected once publicly by pops so I guess I'll wait to see what Kagami says

What are you waiting on Kagami for

I don't want to hog the IC if people think someone else is townier, I'm not one to say things that don't have any meaning

I mentioned that I felt they should be paired with someone ubiquitously town

[unwnd]

I am sorry I am neither three tiny people in a large trench coat suit or a huge giant transforming robot depending on your own interpretation

[unwnd]

No chance.

If gaiden replaces out or breaks my fragile heart by choosing bitmap, I'll take oversoul.

I don't really townread that slot though

Or the other one

[unwnd]

A compulsive need to read all the posts first.
And eurobeat.
But i also need to find the perfect song to ask her out.

pedit: i do not, do you have any recommendations?

Should meet your criteria

[unwnd]

Self-serving post

MariaR - Maybe
Alisae - ?
Kagami - Taken
popsofctown - Rejected lmao
Gamma Emerald - Maybe
Creature - No
Bitmap - No
Cephrir - Taken
Shiro - Likely Taken

I need a stronger read on maria/Gamma

[unwnd]

Self-serving post

MariaR - Maybe
Alisae - ?
Kagami - Taken
popsofctown - Rejected lmao
Gamma Emerald - Maybe
Creature - No
Bitmap - No
Cephrir - Taken
Shiro - Likely Taken

I need a stronger read on maria/Gamma

If your choice isn't MariaR that's suss

Spoiler:

Maria is great, I think she's very perceptive and gives good advice. I enjoy her candid attitude towards things and her kindness despite my own doubts. I have nothing but good things to say about her as a person, but in terms of Mafia we don't always see eye to eye. I probably wouldn't be the best in terms of reading her.

[unwnd]

You think

LUPIN's

slot is scummier than Bitmap?

Pedit: It is a two way road, unwnd. Unless I am mistaken, I do not think she has claimed a read on you yet. A PT would help her with that and since she brought you here, she's the person I trust with being able to read you because so far you're inscrutable to me. I think town only really loses with you + MariaR pairing if you're both scum, which is negative utility for scum, so I don't think town really loses at all in that situation.

You're kinda right actually, I've been trying to consider what Dunn has been saying so I've remained hesitant on the idea. What's your take on Maria thus far before I jump the gun?

[unwnd]

What's your read on OS insisting me and Maria pair

Or perhaps, what's your resd on OS ank

[unwnd]

Gentlemen
unwnd
Gaiden(Think he either dies as scum here with the IC or is just town. Basically resolves himself)

Dunnstral
Oversoul
Ankamius
DeasVail
Firebringer
OkaPoka

Ladies
Kagami
Shiro
Cephrir
Popsofctown
Creature
Alisae
MariaR
Gamma Emerald
Creature
Bitmap


Where my head is at right now. I think I made preemptive judgment on Ank/Ceph and I feel like for Ceph the comment Alisae made about Ceph probably holds more weight than me judging him on a playstyle basis. With Ank I've changed my mind just based on the fact their reads seem to be syncing up with mine. I ISO'd Bitmap on my own time and found absolutely nothing to like about him lol

[unwnd]

P-edit with Ank

some

reads are syncing up

I kinda wanna see pairs happening because I've got some theorycrafting to do based on who chooses what

[unwnd]

My reads are syncing up with yours yet you're scumreading my strong townreads and townreading my strong scumreads?

Yea I realized a few disconnects but you seem to agree OkaPoka is scum at the least

Unless I read the wrong person's list

[unwnd]

My problem with pre-game right now is that it doesn't really matter? Feel like the more it drags on the more scum benefit from it, or at least I look at it that way because I'm trying to read this gamestate that doesn't even have votes yet involved

I'm not buying that thought process at all

I mean I keep changing my mind about you that is what you should take from it lol

[unwnd]

I think Ank/Maria would be a good pair because if I'm running under the assumption that scum would not pair with their scum member, it would help me determine them as one of them possibly being scum or simply town. I think Fire/Popsofctown works in this same process, and I am being more diplomatic about pairings because I see benefit to see of them, esp of what is being said. I think that you can check some people based on their responses of whether or not they pair with someone, and rn I think those two pairing specifically are especially crucial to me. I might accept or ask Maria however even if I'm kinda just :/ about her in general.

Ank, I shitted out a readslist that is highly variable and likely to change. I gave you a reason that popped into my head based on the fact you didn't like Oka as I was typing it up. Whether you choose to believe me or not is your own discretion but at the least you could entertain the idea of pairings more because IMO that is more useful in terms of reading others at this state.

[unwnd]

My townreads pair with other townreads
My scumreads pair with other scumreads

Done

Can u explain why u feel this way in a more contextual statement.

[unwnd]

My townreads pair with other townreads
My scumreads pair with other scumreads

Done

Can u explain why u feel this way in a more contextual statement.

What exactly is confusing about this?

I meant like

Specificallly state who you want paired, doesn't have to be everyone just who you think are the most important pairings

[unwnd]

I think Ank/Maria would be a good pair because if I'm running under the assumption that scum would not pair with their scum member, it would help me determine them as one of them possibly being scum or simply town. I think Fire/Popsofctown works in this same process, and I am being more diplomatic about pairings because I see benefit to see of them, esp of what is being said. I think that you can check some people based on their responses of whether or not they pair with someone, and rn I think those two pairing specifically are especially crucial to me. I might accept or ask Maria however even if I'm kinda just :/ about her in general.

Ank, I shitted out a readslist that is highly variable and likely to change. I gave you a reason that popped into my head based on the fact you didn't like Oka as I was typing it up. Whether you choose to believe me or not is your own discretion but at the least you could entertain the idea of pairings more because IMO that is more useful in terms of reading others at this state.

I've read this a few times and I don't know what you are saying.

Fire claimed Pops is scum, when I asked Fire if he would pair with Pops on this assumption he didn't rly answer. Fire is the only person to have really stated this about Pops

Ank claimed she would be interested in Maria but did not commit to the idea, or really has committed to any dancing partner quite yet.

A lot of that paragraph is me filling in the blanks for how I am reading association

[unwnd]

Gentlemen
Gaiden(Think he either dies as scum here with the IC or is just town. Basically resolves himself)

you're just bitter i have the best dance partner
also, what do you mean "dies as scum here with the IC"?

I assume scum will sac the IC even if their mate is paired w/ them because the idea of a clear is far too dangerous

[unwnd]

Gonna be honest just like an actual dance I tire out too easily and I want my mommy to come pick me up

Next appearance I make based on what Maria says is either me asking her or asking Shiro. I'm tired of hearing my own voice

[unwnd]

I think Ank/Maria would be a good pair because if I'm running under the assumption that scum would not pair with their scum member, it would help me determine them as one of them possibly being scum or simply town. I think Fire/Popsofctown works in this same process, and I am being more diplomatic about pairings because I see benefit to see of them, esp of what is being said. I think that you can check some people based on their responses of whether or not they pair with someone, and rn I think those two pairing specifically are especially crucial to me. I might accept or ask Maria however even if I'm kinda just :/ about her in general.

Ank, I shitted out a readslist that is highly variable and likely to change. I gave you a reason that popped into my head based on the fact you didn't like Oka as I was typing it up. Whether you choose to believe me or not is your own discretion but at the least you could entertain the idea of pairings more because IMO that is more useful in terms of reading others at this state.

I've read this a few times and I don't know what you are saying.

Fire claimed Pops is scum, when I asked Fire if he would pair with Pops on this assumption he didn't rly answer. Fire is the only person to have really stated this about Pops

Ank claimed she would be interested in Maria but did not commit to the idea, or really has committed to any dancing partner quite yet.

A lot of that paragraph is me filling in the blanks for how I am reading association

oh

so you want to pair people with people they are hesitant to pairing with?

Yeh that's kinda the idea

[unwnd]

Gentlemen
Gaiden(Think he either dies as scum here with the IC or is just town. Basically resolves himself)

you're just bitter i have the best dance partner
also, what do you mean "dies as scum here with the IC"?

I assume scum will sac the IC even if their mate is paired w/ them because the idea of a clear is far too dangerous

perhaps i'm dumb, but this seems like a poor strategy.

Have you done these dances before? A lot of my theorycrafting is with fresh eyes and realizing I extremely dislike this pre-dance in terms of how it plays out

[unwnd]

Bitmap's aggression feels misplaced lol

[unwnd]

Feels like a scum mad they're not playing well and being rightfully called out for it so he makes exaggerated statements to keep the pressure off them. Sticking your nose up at me because I didn't like your posts and then saying my readlist sucks is counter-productive to the argument of you looking better in my eyes

[unwnd]

I don't know in what world someone acts indignant in one post (this sucks this sucks etc) and then another pretty much says (well lol, my town ratio is awful and my reads are bad!)

If your reads aren't confident then why are you pretending they are

[unwnd]

If your reads aren't confident then why are you pretending they are

I'm challenging you on this. Where did I protrude my reads to be confident?

Why are my reads bad when you state yourself that you have no confidence on your own. How are you supposed to know they're shit?

[unwnd]

protrude

Your tone, usage of expletives. When people try to explain themselves, they account in the way their arguments are represented. When I read your posts the tone of you saying things like 'oh this is shit' or 'oh this is that way' does not match with someone who also comments that their town win-rate is piss poor. Players who are indecisive I feel usually are not ones to take first glance of something and then say 'its shit' or have some de-facto read on it.

[unwnd]

protrude

Your tone, usage of expletives. When people try to explain themselves, they account in the way their arguments are represented. When I read your posts the tone of you saying things like 'oh this is shit' or 'oh this is that way' does not match with someone who also comments that their town win-rate is piss poor. Players who are indecisive I feel usually are not ones to take first glance of something and then say 'its shit' or have some de-facto read on it.

it's shit cause im town

Then wouldn't your read on me (or the reads I have) be wrong if you are self-assured of this?

[unwnd]

protrude

Your tone, usage of expletives. When people try to explain themselves, they account in the way their arguments are represented. When I read your posts the tone of you saying things like 'oh this is shit' or 'oh this is that way' does not match with someone who also comments that their town win-rate is piss poor. Players who are indecisive I feel usually are not ones to take first glance of something and then say 'its shit' or have some de-facto read on it.

it's shit cause im town

Then wouldn't your read on me (or the reads I have) be wrong if you are self-assured of this?

How so?

OK let me preface this in a different way: Why did your tone shift when it came to addressing your reads

[unwnd]

OK let me preface this in a different way: Why did your tone shift when it came to addressing your reads

I don't really focus on tonality as town.

Without this becoming circular logic, I just wanna understand if that's true why you took a more aggressive stance. I mean, you did this with some kinda purpose yeah? I know when I swear or seem !! angry !! I'm doing it with the intent to seem that way.

[unwnd]

OK let me preface this in a different way: Why did your tone shift when it came to addressing your reads

I don't really focus on tonality as town.

Without this becoming circular logic, I just wanna understand if that's true why you took a more aggressive stance. I mean, you did this with some kinda purpose yeah? I know when I swear or seem !! angry !! I'm doing it with the intent to seem that way.

I don't even think that stance was aggressive.

It was a general assumption reading your posts

[unwnd]

down 2 get rejected twice

MariaR, lets dance i guess

[unwnd]

im down 2 get cucked

[unwnd]

down 2 get rejected twice

MariaR, lets dance i guess

ya no

I'd like to ask MariaR to dance

What the fuck is this

Oversoul apparently thinks we should pair LOL

[unwnd]

the fuck
I do not consent

Are u sure you don't wanna see my rare bug collection....

[unwnd]

Your reads seem pretty...interesting and not in a good way, but let’s talk about Shiro and Cephir.

I've accepted the pre-dance is kind of a crapshoot for me which is probably why it seems a bit jumbled. Individually, Shiro's reaction to FB was townie and Cephir I gave more leeway as the thread progressed

[unwnd]

Nice a double rejection (I'm fine with this outcome)

I have no clue who I'm picking

[unwnd]

Why are you fine with the outcome? Are you not disappointed about failing to pair with TRs?

Because I don't exactly TR Maria yet but saw the perspective Oversoul was bringing about it so I jumped the gun. I honestly feel like I might end up w/ gamma at this rate even if I had a thought of picking Shiro

It's like almost comical at this rate

[unwnd]

P-edit: Jumping the gun extends to tired of this phase

[unwnd]

I'm somewhat annoyed the unwnd is treating this as something that is not a lynching process.

The leftover lady dies. Scum want that leftover lady to not be scum.

I am considering this actually, hence I don't wanna be paired up with Gamma

That also means I die if I don't figure shit out (see: lot of people stating open disdain at even suggesting a pair with me or being outright rejected LOL)

[unwnd]

OK only person I'm willing to dance with is Shiro at this point or I'm down to just..die

[unwnd]

OK only person I'm willing to dance with is Shiro at this point or I'm down to just..die

dance with alisae before dunnstral takes her!!!!!

I mean I could tell her about my rare rock collection but I doubt it'd change the decision...

[unwnd]

Ok well fuck me I guess

My only option to live is probably with pops, I dunno about creature being town and Ali is better off not figuring out who I am despite me laughing

[unwnd]

Yeah you're gonna kill off a town and I'm like 20% sad about it because I took initiative to try and find a mate 3 times and got rejected lmao

[unwnd]

hey pops I'd rather not die and I don't think theres a clause about asking same person twice so I wanna live to actually play the game dance with me

If pops says no see ya

[unwnd]

Yes would rather not pair with a scum read @dunn

[unwnd]

I'm not a prominent player I just have ambiguous history due to my internet treks on various sites

I've played with you couple of times creature

[unwnd]

Ali u knew me personally but if ur brain works shhhh

Last I'm gonna talk about myself

[unwnd]

I respect it

[unwnd]

Can Gold ask pops so we can have a conf town pairing? Ty

Why do you want me to die =(

[unwnd]

If gold danced with any other lady I'd kill the slot most likely. So dance with conf town pops who are both towny.
pedit: Good to see scum are still trying to stop TvT pairs so they can be ML down the road.

OK but why am I dying because I don't feel like creature is town

[unwnd]

Can Gold ask pops so we can have a conf town pairing? Ty

Why do you want me to die =(

You really can't dance with anybody else?

I dislike both bitmap/creature and Ali Idk has shown hesitance to the idea

[unwnd]

If gold danced with any other lady I'd kill the slot most likely. So dance with conf town pops who are both towny.
pedit: Good to see scum are still trying to stop TvT pairs so they can be ML down the road.

OK but why am I dying because I don't feel like creature is town

You're dying because the other ladies are bad options. You could do me a favor and choose who of Ali/bitmap you want me to kill for you (because I'm killing both0 but I don't think you'd like that. Maybe don't dance so all 3 die?

Much like all of our interactions you basically tell me to go die

Thank u for inviting me Maria

[unwnd]

If gold danced with any other lady I'd kill the slot most likely. So dance with conf town pops who are both towny.
pedit: Good to see scum are still trying to stop TvT pairs so they can be ML down the road.

OK but why am I dying because I don't feel like creature is town

You're dying because the other ladies are bad options. You could do me a favor and choose who of Ali/bitmap you want me to kill for you (because I'm killing both0 but I don't think you'd like that. Maybe don't dance so all 3 die?

Much like all of our interactions you basically tell me to go die

Thank u for inviting me Maria

Anytime friend. See you at thanksgiving? If you think 1 of those 3 are strongly town I'll obviously listen to your opinion. If you danced with Ali I'd be somewhat interested.

LOL NOT EVEN SLIGHT SYMPATHY

No I'm pretty meh on all 3 and feel like bitmap/creature has one. I'd pair with Ali on self-preservation
Why are you against me asking pops

[unwnd]

I'm down to play the game and choose ali, but I do have a pending on pops rn

What does GR wanna do?

[unwnd]

I don't believe in suiciding right now, lot of my postings about it was tongue-in cheek

[unwnd]

Someone run numbers right now

Did creature get a partner?

[unwnd]

Unwnd, please ask pops to the dance, or present a really, really compelling argument for why you would rather not.

I already asked them and would be 100% fine with it

[unwnd]

Oh pops did accept I just read

C00l

I'm not sure how to take ali suddenly afk panicking

[unwnd]

Dunn I think you should take Ali unless I'm being dissuaded by their last emotional bout before exiting the thread

[unwnd]

Oh I just saw Dunn took Bitmap so Ali is probably out as that's everyone

[unwnd]

Think Ali exits the game as town. If that's the case here's my hierarchy of pairings

unwnd/popsofctown
Ankimus/MariaR

kagami/Gaiden

Cephrir/DeasVeil

Shiro/Firebringer

Bitmap/Dunnstral
Golden Rooster/Creature

Gamma/Oka

Despite the placements, the bold are pairs I think have a strong indication of holding scum. I've yet to see a TvT pairing that I can be strongly confident on yet

[unwnd]

If ali was scum then lol scum fucked up but I'm like...extremely doubting that. I think scum jumped at the first opportunity to latch onto town as soon as they got it

[unwnd]

Think Ali exits the game as town. If that's the case here's my hierarchy of pairings

unwnd/popsofctown
Ankimus/MariaR

kagami/Gaiden

Cephrir/DeasVeil

Shiro/Firebringer

Bitmap/Dunnstral
Golden Rooster/Creature

Gamma/Oka

Despite the placements, the bold are pairs I think have a strong indication of holding scum. I've yet to see a TvT pairing that I can be strongly confident on yet

Why are your bolds not on the bottom of the hierarchy?

Kagami is the IC so she gets to be higher up. Shiro/Firebringer I think is far more intriguing based on their initial responses with each other, but outside of what FB has done I don't have a strong indication of a read about Shiro. Gamma/Oka I feel hold one scum

[unwnd]

Kagami is the IC so she gets to be higher up. Shiro/Firebringer I think is far more intriguing based on their initial responses with each other, but outside of what FB has done I don't have a strong indication of a read about Shiro. Gamma/Oka I feel hold one scum

Is the hierarchy list what you predict lynch order is?

Nah, the hierarchy is like how I feel about the way the pairings formed and a bit of individual preference.

[unwnd]

Because Oka needs the PT to solve, essentially
And btw if consensus is that my pair should die at the end of first dance and there's not much time left I'll leave

How do you feel about Oka and how he chose to pair with you? Did you pair with him as self-preservation or because you townread the slot?

[unwnd]

I'm not trying to play diplomat here but now that pairings have formed I'd like to understand the decisions of why people chose to accept or propose to that person. I'd also like the read on them rn

[unwnd]

VOTE: Okagamma

Dunn or Bitmap you think is scum Maria?

[unwnd]

see! Ank's avi looks like he's taking off his scarf, even the post about avatar works well coming from the avatar. so meta

That's a girl

The best girl from kiseki actually

[unwnd]

Because Oka needs the PT to solve, essentially
And btw if consensus is that my pair should die at the end of first dance and there's not much time left I'll leave

How do you feel about Oka and how he chose to pair with you? Did you pair with him as self-preservation or because you townread the slot?

@Oka

[unwnd]

I feel really good about oka and im glad he paired with me. Yeah oka is a really swell guy and I townread him.

I meant why did you pair with Gamma

[unwnd]

I feel really good about oka and im glad he paired with me. Yeah oka is a really swell guy and I townread him.

I meant why did you pair with Gamma

gamma i have decent meta with and therefore I think I can read them better than avg

also they are active and they keep up and they post a lot

so they are a good pt partner to have

Did you townread him at the time? I just don't see where the decision happened, especially if creature was your first choice

[unwnd]

Oka my problem with you is that I don't understand how your progression makes any sort of sense.

[unwnd]

Oka my problem with you is that I don't understand how your progression makes any sort of sense.

cool

what progression

Like...with anything

I feel like there's a lot of holes in your logic that you try to ignore by moving onto another topic, it's kinda like how you're now on about FB-Shiro being an easy lynch for scum but didn't bother to comment on the formation of their pairing when it did happen

[unwnd]

Is the issue of firebringer/shiro solely stemming from their pairing?

Yes? I would definitely think so

[unwnd]

It's not bad if Fire can read Shiro no? or work well with her and since they've seemed to have a long history with each other then its probably true?

OK but the biggest thing I want from you is why you think they're an easy lynch for scum

[unwnd]

Because dominant voices seem to be consensusing around them, Kagami has given approval and Shiro hasn't really posted content in pre dance.

Well based on your vote you think Ank/Maria has scum and their avocation is one of those dominant voices but the rest is ???

[unwnd]

All of you can go fuck yourselves.

I totally called this before that people would pounce on us. Fucking predictable as shit.

Do you still scumread shiro?

[unwnd]

All of you can go fuck yourselves.

I totally called this before that people would pounce on us. Fucking predictable as shit.

Do you still scumread shiro?

I frankly don't give a shit what shiro is. I know shiro isn't scum now just by how easy people are pushing us.

My angle about you two is vastly different than what the thread is saying honestly:

I thought Shiro's initial response to FB was pretty townie, and I was basing my decision to try and pair with her on this alone. I felt FB trying to lock her into a state of suicide and her saying she didn't like this fact was a townie progression, but what really trips me up about it is that she eventually rescinded her own thoughts and reclutantly accepted FB. I don't know why you would accept FB (or anyone) if you weren't townreading the slot, because I was under the impression it's best to well, match with players you townread. There are little things I don't like about her outisde of that which is her self-conscious yet joking nature, such as two individual responses to people who called her out as possibly being scum.

[unwnd]

It's certainly scummy enough to call it scummy rather than offering a free pass to be useless. Nothing good comes of crying about "easy lynches."

I'm giving the Fire-Shiro slot a chance to actually give reads before really pushing them. If they still are absolutely useless, I'll reconsider this lynch notion.

Scum.

This is 1 million percent scum.

y

Because he doesn't care about our reads at all, its complete posturing of how he is trying to "consider whether our slots are town" but it is fake, you can read his posts and realize he doesn't care about our reads. A monkey could figure that out.

U still stick to what you said about Pops earlier? You were pretty insistent on them being scum from memory

[unwnd]

U still stick to what you said about Pops earlier? You were pretty insistent on them being scum from memory

I don't know what i feel about pops anymore. Maybe he is someone I can't sort out just by what he says intrinsically.

Aye

Last q I have for you - who looks the worse on this push against you? I agree about Bitmap and haven't liked him for a very very long time lol

[unwnd]

DeasVail - Cephrir

Kagami

- SXTLHGaiden

Ankamius

- MariaR
Firebringer - Shiro
OkaPoka -

Gamma Emerald

Dunnstral - Bitmap
unwnd - popsofctown

Golden Robster

- Creature

I hate to say this but if Dunn ends up being a townie I'm pretty sure Maria is playing you and not the other way around.

[unwnd]

DeasVail - Cephrir

Kagami

- SXTLHGaiden

Ankamius

- MariaR
Firebringer - Shiro
OkaPoka -

Gamma Emerald

Dunnstral - Bitmap
unwnd - popsofctown

Golden Robster

- Creature

I hate to say this but if Dunn ends up being a townie I'm pretty sure Maria is playing you and not the other way around.

Go on...

Maria's hard to pin, I've paranoia'd her as town plenty of times but I feel when I do that she eventually makes a good decision and I stop worrying about it. The problem I have is that based on this fact alone--I don't think Maria has been making any decisions at all. When I made my hierarchy, I thought Ank's process of choosing Maria was fluent, felt like a townie process, but I'm pretty sure scum!Maria jumps on this regardless of the intent of the other person. I remember Maria say she's looking for me but never alluded to the fact why she denied me in the first place, and maybe my opinion is biased but I feel she'd try a bit harder to solve me (and to an extent, you) at this juncture, but most of the time just feels like a bit of a front.

[unwnd]

I don't think Maria/Ank lynch happens anytime soon though, so my focus is more on Oka who pretty much does the equivalent of threadcamping for a period of time and then goes away once people stop talking about him lol

what is scum!mariar's plan in pairing with me anyways

IMO she kinda opentelled there if she happens to be scum, saying you two would just get paranoia'd to death therefore it's a safe excuse to anyone who pressures the two of you. I found it weird how it seemed Dunn/Maria were about to scrap but then she eventually just said 'well Dunn probably wouldn't choose Bitmap as scum here '

[unwnd]

that's not exactly a weird reason considering that's the reason I near-locked dunn as town at the time

So you think Bitmap and Dunn is TvT for this reason or

[unwnd]

I currently have no read on either slot

What made you change your mind about dunn being locktown if im going by what u just said

[unwnd]

Had a few solves going on with pops and I can pretty much say I'm either pocketed or we're both just town. Still think Gamma/Oka is the way to go and then we'll bring some more spicy stuff if the time calls for it

[unwnd]

DV's #2336

Do you have experience with Bitmap? I wrote a tangent on bitmap myself in my PT if you wanna compare and contrast

Spoiler:

Bitmap - Really dislike this slot. Bag of inconsistencies. Tried to confront them about these and he just had what I call self-tells. It's when you pressure someone and they self-tell about something so it's invalid, and I find when town are trying to self-tell they usually are doing it to reprimand someone for a bad read, but Bitmap's self-tells are only used to redirect. I don't understand how someone can go from raw aggression and saying my scumread is shit to saying they distrust their own townplay and saying themselves are shit. Like...if you're an unsure player you do not lead most of your arguments as black and white, because I've never seen him consider that perhaps he could be wrong? Just doesn't feel like he's thinking about what he's saying and what it means to him personally rather just entertaining the thread. Scum

[unwnd]

Well here's my other dumb on MariaR cause she's being talked about a wee bit

Spoiler:

Maria - Talked in thread about this read a bit. Think Maria's pushes lack initiative, like there is a certain process required that I'm not seeing. This isn't an individual tell rather more ubiquitous, and I think that her play suggests that she will be applying pressure more effectively but doesn't do anything with it? I think when town are trying to apply pressure they may exaggerate their stances and then eventually reveal what they got out of this exchange, but I'm not really close to understanding this from Maria. It's like with Dunn she seemed really pissed about..whatever, but nothing came out of it. There was another instance where she was hard on Ceph calling him scum but ???? where did that go lol. In terms of Maria themselves, I think that pressure and see what happens fits her mold, but right now I think she's just trying to play too close to what is effective as a townie without the results. That's why you see cookie-cutter exchanges or her coming to conclusions before anything actually happens. Lean scum

[unwnd]

Guys

You understand that MariaR is a strong enough scum player that you're probably not going to catch her with really simple shit like that, right

I have years of experience with MariaR and have caught her as scum though. Twice even!

[unwnd]

I don't want any other flip besides Oka/Gamma rn and I'll be annoying about it if I have to

[unwnd]

Tbh I'm not feeling that pairing as lynch1 anymore

Why though? I feel you're trying to take on the whole game and trying to roll like a perfect game

It's better imo to make mistakes now (if you feel this is a mistake) than later

[unwnd]

Tbh I'm not feeling that pairing as lynch1 anymore

Why though? I feel you're trying to take on the whole game and trying to roll like a perfect game

It's better imo to make mistakes now (if you feel this is a mistake) than later

If you think lynching my pair might be a mistake why do you seem so hell-bent on it happening?

I don't, as in

I don't think it's a mistake, it's why I'm on u and being vocal about it. The point I was making to Ank is that if you leave yourself to second-guess a situation over and over and over you'll get nowhere and it's better to make a mistake than try to avoid them

I accept that perhaps I could be wrong about your pair, but the way I'm reading the game makes me feel otherwise and well I'll never know if you two don't flip

[unwnd]

Do you think that you're the only one looking at the bigger picture? Is my read rand? I saw your vote on me but I've yet to understand what you're exactly looking for from me (or even pops).

P-edit: I'd like to think I'm doing the same thing, and the reason I was getting tired of pre-dance because I'd have nothing to confirm or even a means to check without a lynch going through lol

[unwnd]

Right, and I'm trying to get you to see you're not the only one

[unwnd]

Ok and if they happen to be town I will consider the alternative. I just feel like you're being obstinate towards thread progression because you stop in your tracks and start to doubt something without explaining why

[unwnd]

Well, my understanding is that you feel the sudden derision towards you/Maria is scum-motivated which would include I guess FB, Shiro and Bitmap?

[unwnd]

….Congrats you caught me as scum in a game where I was sick and couldn’t play it and the other being where I was having problems. Please stop trying to act like you know me inside out when we’ve had conversations on my play that you still don’t get.

I don't act like I know you inside and out, that wasn't a bout of confidence rather a bit of a tease.

This is how I want people to read me but that's rarely how it happens.

I promise that I do. This isn't meant to be an insult but the decisions I make and how I read you are very similar to someone else based on behavioral tells. My problems I've had with you this game are not "Maria-Only" and instead things I'd be looking out for with other players. Let's say you weren't Maria and I didn't know you but had like...someone who plays like you. There are a lot of those, and with that certain mold as I ascribed to I expect to see these players play in certain ways. I just feel like you're not for what I expect for this approach to be normally town. Does this make sense?

[unwnd]

There's a reason You-Know-Who always butted heads with you Maria: It's cuz ur very similar in approach as town. I have to read him kinda the same way but I'd say that he's sorta grown into a more wall-y player. You are again different people however but my observations made feel (mostly) correct? Like, I'm not gonna sit here and say that because you are not playing the way I expect that means your scum, but rather I'm leaning on you being scum for the ineffectiveness of your play right now because I do admire your reads when you have them or even your input. Like, I read your response to me and you're saying you're transparent but I wonder why you're exactly making them. I wonder why you're focusing on the emotional aspect of my arguments unless you feel like that's the only thing I've criticized you for-- which it's not. My argument is not 'you are acting this way therefore scummy', my argument is 'you are acting this way for a reason, and the way you are doing it feels far more self-preservational. I think you are acting this way and making reads you don't entirely believe in even if you want to make the impression you do.'

[unwnd]

I don't think I even had unwnd on board in the love pt

I'll sort him later is basically my thought right now lol

[unwnd]

I guess another thing I wanna bring forward is why you easily resigned to me being a townread. I don't feel I deserved it. You said you were looking for something in me and yet it never came to light what it is. You say 'im an easy read' but I dunno I have lots of evidence that suggests you don't feel that way.

[unwnd]

I think that I also shade you a lot for the way u play but then you do something that proves me wrong and it's like 'oh lol nevermind'. Like last game on this acc I was kinda meh on you but I've accepted ill

Spoiler:

exaggerate my stance on you to some extent to gauge your reaction

[unwnd]

Yes Maria I don't feel like trying to circumvent you into admitting something so reads are fine for now

[unwnd]

I guess something I'm wondering is why you think Dunn isn't just chasing a fake bad read on you Maria

I recall your reasoning being why he paired up with Bitmap but dunno if that's been updated cause it seems like you've been openly against the slot

[unwnd]

Recall your reasoning for him being town*

[unwnd]

All grievous sins are forgiven if we just nut up and lynch some motherfuckers

Preferably the person i am on. Thank u

[unwnd]

VOTE: Gamma/oka

[unwnd]

Gamma can you tell me if you're town who we should be looking at based on the votals?

[unwnd]

tl;dr

Kagami
Pops
--
Ank
Firebringer
--
Gamma
Creature
Ceph
DeasVeil
--
Gaiden
Shiro
Maria
Bitmap
Oka

Obviously I'm wrong somewhere but I'm not the type of player who is scared of being wrong.

flexin'

[unwnd]

Alright so the biggest thing to take away from this is whether or not scum folded to me wanting Oka dead or if they jumped early cause they say he wasn't playing the best (no offense)

[unwnd]

Alright so the biggest thing to take away from this is whether or not scum folded to me wanting Oka dead or if they jumped early cause they say he wasn't playing the best (no offense)

i doubt you were a big part of the reason that wagon went through my dude

I take credit being the first on there

You're probably right

[unwnd]

Will look into Oka's individual posts when I can

[unwnd]

I'm not voting fb/Shiro
VOTE: Ceph/Des

Is this based on you feeling like FB-Shiro was the counter-scum wagon to Oka or something else

[unwnd]

I'm not voting fb/Shiro
VOTE: Ceph/Des

Have your thoughts on Dunn changed after that flip?

My thoughts haven't really changed on anyone yet given that flip was 100% the most easy to tell/flip in the game. I think it's best to Iso Oka and look for interactions on that slot if you want information. I'm not giving anyone credit for pushing him. He was stupidly obvious and any smart scum would've bussed it. So look at Okas iso itself. I'll do so myself in a bit.

I agree with this

I think Gamma's last wishes on GRob could be telling

[unwnd]

maybe i should pair up with lupin's replacement and we can read the game together lul

Hmmm

[unwnd]

I like Ceph/Des as the lynch here but I'm biding my time

[unwnd]

I think Oka was distancing OverSoul from the looks of his ISO

Discuss

[unwnd]

@unwnd: Is GR and Dunn buddying?

Not sure quite yet. More focused on OS/Oka from what I looked at. There's a certain tell I want to find a proper way to word to strengthen my argument but I'll get to that eventually

[unwnd]

Ftr I think deas is scum mainly by okas neighborhood comments

Elaborate on this a bit further

[unwnd]

I think the solve going on right now is proper, but if it doesn't happen to be true then I'm basing this game a bit harder than it is. You have to measure the level of competency based on how things have transpired. Pre-dance scum already got themselves paired up relatively early and I think I wanna go back and look at those pairings specifically. This is the reason Ali got eliminated despite being very townie IMO

[unwnd]

VOTE: BitDunn

I'm for it.

[unwnd]

I'll T-T Ank/Maria if BitDunn has one scum and then I'm pretty sure game is won on this fact alone.

Other T-T I see as possible are GRob-Creature (Mostly Creature) and then I guess I'm following Kagami's read on Gaiden.

[unwnd]

Deas vote onto Bitmap reads opportunistic but it almost reads in a way that is positive because I run under the assumption Deas wouldn't make himself look so obvious there.

[unwnd]

Alright so I'm probably gonna do a dive into pairings and pre-dance

I think pops mentioned it about Creature but there's other instances that concern me. There's not really a way of knowing if there's one last gentscum and oneladyscum right? Like, is it possible there was only one gentscum and two ladyscum? I understand this is WIFOM but running under the assumption of other will change how I view the pre-dance and how things went down. I've been talking about it a little bit in-thread and PT but Ali being gone the way they were makes me feel like scum got the jump early on some ladies therefore I feel like it's 2gent/1lady here.

Nothing that confirms it, just if people wanna bother with semantics they may join me as I go look through some shit

[unwnd]

This setup is made a bit more strongly than I thought and I don't think I can make a confirmed path to victory without there being a lack of assurance. I was looking into how many ladies are left and it's pretty much confirmed that we will run out of ladies to hang before gents so I was thinking 'let's just lynch down the list under no ladies are left' but this probably isn't the best idea.

[unwnd]

The other three is basically forced in some way

Is that where you think scum lies? I sorta see the possibility of an obvious pairing having one red in there

[unwnd]

I kinda agree with that solve

According to my lover intermission happens after this lynch so uh

Yeah let's take our time with this one, I was more willing to speed down to hammer if we had two but we don't

[unwnd]

I honestly think the majority of the people who are not being lynched or considered for it each want the same thing at this rate so we might as well hammer BittDunn and call it a day. I wanted to give the thread some time to develop but I'm finding the people who are accused are just repeating themselves or not really offering any alternatives. I think I've seen Bitmap pretty much defend himself and make banal arguments for his scumreads without like..actually engaging them. I can't play the game for everyone and certainly Ankimus would be more than happy to but I digress.

I just wanna say that I rescind my thought about Deas if BittDun is T-T.

[unwnd]

My last post was me saying 'lets take our time' but I pop in and nothing has really developed beyond the consensus. It's either frustratingly right and the game is won or scum is just adding onto the wrong opinions in such a fashion we aren't seeing; I think the latter will be more revealed on a T-T of BittDunn.

[unwnd]

Being contrarian makes it seem you're more divisive than what you actually are? I fight authority all the time as scum because I have a ton of information town doesn't, and then I can look like I'm actually doing something. If your behavior this game is fighting authority then you must be doing it in an environment such as your own room where you like whisper-shout "fuck authority" so mom can't hear you for swearing

[unwnd]

I mean I'm pretty sure you sheeped onto Gamma/Oka last lynch too. I guess what I'm wondering is if you're town what do you gain ""fighting authority"" in the manner that you are

[unwnd]

Ive been the only one really fighting the MariaR/Ank pair. Didn't you have a light scum read on MariaR?

I agree that is your only thing you've been very vocal about. If I Ctrl+F your ISO I see you mentioning MariaR about 55 times. I see you spend a lot of time saying you have these theories or thoughts but you don't share them? Maybe Dunn can key me in about this and you have in your lover PT. The biggest takeaway from it all is that your crusade about authority eventually ends with you townleaning Maria at #2929 yet you still hold onto some shade.

The time would probably be now to elaborate your MariaR suspicion further

[unwnd]

Ive been the only one really fighting the MariaR/Ank pair. Didn't you have a light scum read on MariaR?

I agree that is your only thing you've been very vocal about. If I Ctrl+F your ISO I see you mentioning MariaR about 55 times. I see you spend a lot of time saying you have these theories or thoughts but you don't share them? Maybe Dunn can key me in about this and you have in your lover PT. The biggest takeaway from it all is that your crusade about authority eventually ends with you townleaning Maria at #2929 yet you still hold onto some shade.

The time would probably be now to elaborate your MariaR suspicion further

I don't really have much. Just as Ceph said with his suspicions, it's hard to make a case.

In our lover PT, Dunn and I have established a few common understandings:
1) MariaR push isn't going to happen and there's a good chance of being town.
2) We both agree we're both town.
3) We're going to die today. lol.

Any thoughts on those pushing you in terms of scum? Votecount 1.8 is pretty telling to me tbh

[unwnd]

Neither do I if you're town

[unwnd]

Is Maria still scum then? Or are you finally townleaning her for good?

[unwnd]

I'm coming round to Ceph-DV being the greedy choice. Might be the correct choice too, since the primary scum candidates have had little of note to say about each other.

I agree with you about GR-Creature not exactly thrilling me but this is probably a discussion for another time

[unwnd]

VOTE: DV/Ceph

Baa

[unwnd]

Yeah don't see Ceph spewing like this as a 2nd to last scummer so either Deas was a bingo or it's time to reconsider a few things

[unwnd]

tbf I'm not sure how MariaR is getting as far as I did about unwnd without the same material I have

Let's just agree that if our pairings are both alive and its close to lylo once of us suicides

[unwnd]

The only way I won't suicide is if my partner starts typesinging Jumper by Third Eye Blind

[unwnd]

pls dont pollute my beautiful death with this weeb shit

Need I remind you what ur avatar was before...

[unwnd]

People who know what they're doing tend to be scum.

[unwnd]

People who know what they're doing tend to be scum.

Why do u think I'm scum then?

U can be town if Deas is scum

[unwnd]

i am anime as well now too :3

[unwnd]

No one really is content with just having a reptile avatar?

Hop on the trend

[unwnd]

Pokemon =/= Anime

[unwnd]

I love writing big pretentious posts while donning a cute anime avatar. I think it really digs deep because you know the other person on the screen is thinking 'this absolute fuckin cumstain of a person is trying to tell ME what to do?' and the other is 'oh god i hope its a girl be still my beating otaku heart'

[unwnd]

My confbias tells me this is a pretty big townjerk going on rn

[unwnd]

im switching back because i didnt like how that cropped

im very choosy about my presentation, maria knows all about it

[unwnd]

How come your shitposting and off-topic is townier than you trying to play the game Bitmap

[unwnd]

DeasVail - Cephrir [8] - Dunnstral, Bitmap,

Kagami,

unwnd

, Ankamius, MariaR,

popsofctown

,

SXTLHGaiden

[LYNCH]
Kagami - SXTLHGaiden [0] -
Ankamius - MariaR [0] -
Firebringer - Shiro [3] - Golden Robster, Cephrir, Creature
Dunnstral - Bitmap [3] - Firebringer, DeasVail, Shiro
unwnd - popsofctown [0] -
Golden Robster - Creature [0] -

Not Voting [0] -

With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: 5 days, 0 hours, 32 minutes

This is running under the assumption that Kagami/Gaiden were town and are removed, and that we're both town as well. There's two distinct pairing with no deviation on this lynch. Does wagonomics insist that Dunn/Bit and Ank/Maria have one pairing? Possibly. If we go by that I can see the thread tyring to go for Dunn/Bit (which was the other lynch considered) but if

that

doesn't have a red I will 100% back my own process that town likely mislynched their own and a lot of the grime aka scum didn't want anything to do with the wagon. BittDunn v AnkMaria will most definitely happen and this votecount works more in our favor if its SvT in relation to DunnvMaria.

I really think GRob/Creature look bad here all things considered. I do see what you're saying about GRob and how he's playing, so perhaps you're going at the angle scum know they have an implanted mate who who's deeper than we percieve?

Quoting from my Lover PT

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Quoting from my Lover PT

Please do not directly quote from Lover PT. Paraphrase instead.

Thank you.

Ah, my bad