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Post Post #1566 (isolation #200) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:05 am

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Aubrey, do you think the captain is town or scum?
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Post Post #1568 (isolation #201) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:12 am

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I agree, captain actions are town motivated.

The captain is gonna put the doc on himself, 100% of the time now. If the captain (conftown), is killed, you are roped.
If scum want to start killing conftown, they have to kill you. This isn't a great scenario for you, but provides some good insights and clears your slot and reads at the same time. I mean, if you are a town doc ur gonna eat lead sooner or later, right? Very surprised you didn't die N1, so that's why this needs to happen.

If both of you survive, you don't die tomorrow. The process of protecting the captain is repeated, either forcing scum hand or clearing the both of you.
I'm not a very strong mechanical player, but this seems like a good move.

And while this is happening, the captain has free choice to use the JK as he pleases, possibly catching scum.
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Post Post #1571 (isolation #202) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:18 am

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a flaw in the plan
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Post Post #1573 (isolation #203) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:20 am

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The captain could actually JK himself, and doc me to really force scum to kill the doc, or show their hand, no?
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Post Post #1582 (isolation #204) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:24 am

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In post 1576, Liz Jack and Kenneth wrote:
In post 1559, RedPanda wrote:Blake can only be wrong about persi blake can never be wrong about nancy that's the double standard. I am town, so your whole case is just dumb to me.
You're being daft, or you don't understand nuance.
Townreads on different people can have qualitative differences.
Townreads for certain reasons can carry more
weight
than others.
Not every townread is interchangeable in the overall course of the gamestate.

If I have a 100% BoP on you, then my townread on you is
very likely accurate.
It wouldn't equally interchange with a townread on someone because I think they're making towny posts.

Saying these townreads are not equal is NOT a double standard.

What do you mean, "one more chance"? I'm offering mechanical solves. You're being dismissive when I offer pointers to scum in the universe where you're town, because it conflicts with your own reads. What do you expect?
Iconeum wrote:The captain is gonna put the doc on himself, 100% of the time now. If the captain (conftown), is killed, you are roped.
Lol @ Icon's push. I wasn't going to suggest strategy but the most probable captain order would be Aubrey on Icon, and Icon on Datisi (the inverse doesn't work, think about it). What prevents scum!Icon from disobeying and killing Datisi?

-Kenneth
That's the beauty of putting it out here. If we can have the captain confirm doc on me, and JK on him, I'll eat rope if the captain dies ;)
If I die, Aubrey eats rope.
If we all live, rinse and repeat tomorrow
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Post Post #1588 (isolation #205) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:29 am

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In post 1584, Liz Jack and Kenneth wrote:
In post 1582, Iconeum wrote:That's the beauty of putting it out here. If we can have the captain confirm doc on me, and JK on him, I'll eat rope if the captain dies
If I die, Aubrey eats rope.
If we all live, rinse and repeat tomorrow
So, guarantee an Aubrey nightkill if she's town - what do we gain from that?

-Kenneth
Confirmation on the slot, for one.
Forcing scum to go there instead of trying to get us to mislynch.
It reduces the amount of WIFOM town has right now.
It narrows the scumpool tomorrow.

I see plenty of benefits
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Post Post #1589 (isolation #206) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:30 am

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Kenneth, are you comfortable with scum not killing of a doc when they have the chance? Why didn't they?
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Post Post #1592 (isolation #207) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:33 am

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In post 1590, Liz Jack and Kenneth wrote:
In post 1588, Iconeum wrote:Forcing scum to go there instead of trying to get us to mislynch.
It reduces the amount of WIFOM town has right now.
It narrows the scumpool tomorrow.
The scumpool narrows with
any
nightkill (or lack of) anyway. NK confirmation happens to any slot.
"Forcing scum to go there" I read it as "Guarantee that they have a nightkill go through".

-Kenneth
The scumpool doesn't narrow with any NK. The playerpool does. Scum when left with a choice aren't gonna kill in the lynchpool. Aubrey is definitely in the lynchpool because it's a claimed doc and it's alive. If Aubrey dies that narrows the lynchpool, which is a better result then a conftown dying.
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Post Post #1595 (isolation #208) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:35 am

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In post 1593, Liz Jack and Kenneth wrote:
In post 1589, Iconeum wrote:Kenneth, are you comfortable with scum not killing of a doc when they have the chance? Why didn't they?
I can think of a lot of reasons.

> Kept them alive for a paranoia mislynch
> Aubrey was townreading them
> Blake, a potential powerful town leader, was scumreading them

You do realize a NK can be because of dayplay and not because of purely mechanical reasons, right?

-Kenneth
Oh I agree. I believe Blake was killed for his potential dayplay. And he was being strongly townread. Yet scum were comfortable killing there, with a claimed doc out there.
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Post Post #1596 (isolation #209) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:36 am

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My townpool is Ico/Datisi/Panda, sadly not more.
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Post Post #1599 (isolation #210) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:37 am

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Voted is a townlean, Saudude is I don't know. I thought scum, Panda brings up some good points. So put him in the middle as well.
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Post Post #1604 (isolation #211) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:40 am

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Datisi for night play and the way he came forth and explained it. Zero scum motivation for doing that. His motives had town value.
I've been townreading Persivul from the start, and only got annoyed with him when he replaced out. Panda has been actively sorting and considering. I believe scum would come in with stronger opinions and an agenda, which I'm not seeing.
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Post Post #1609 (isolation #212) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:44 am

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If you flip town and Aubrey's NK'd, then I've played horribly and I was wrong.

I haven't looked into what I would do then. Investigate my middle reads of Saudude and Voted. Relook Panda. I don't have a solve right now for that scenario.
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Post Post #1697 (isolation #213) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:25 pm

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In post 1642, RedPanda wrote:actually wait no I'm confusing myself. If I die tonight captain still has two protects.
You dying would actually give town credit to LJK slot... so not lynching them might be the better option.
In post 1643, RedPanda wrote:So Icon was not leading me into a trap which means he's still playing like town jk
:roll:
In post 1648, RedPanda wrote:
In post 1647, Liz Jack and Kenneth wrote:
In post 1642, RedPanda wrote:actually wait no I'm confusing myself. If I die tonight captain still has two protects.
We die, then you and pow, two of the command structure are dead. Secondary scum win condition only depends on killing CoC, not PRS, so you dying furthers scum wincon.
We will still get two lynches though. They cannot kill daitisi because he will have two protects on him.
Scum can't win by killing the command structure. That assumes the command structure is all town. If that's true, then they need:

-a NK on Panda first
-then a NK on the doc
-then a NK on the JK
-then a NK on the captain
-then a NK on the lt

Even if we lynch LJK slot, and they are town, it takes 4 NK's for scum to win like this. They didn't set up a win like this with their N1 NK.
As long as the captain sticks to the plan of a doc on me, and JK's himself, we are fine.

Worst case scenario is that either doc or JK is scum, but then they auto-out themselves and we have a free scumlynch.
In any case, the doc goes on me and JK on captain.
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Post Post #1699 (isolation #214) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:17 pm

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Saud's on L-1. Anyone wanna save the slot?
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Post Post #1701 (isolation #215) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:30 pm

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Curious for other player's stands on Saudude possible lynch

Redpanda has a conflict of interest there
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Post Post #1704 (isolation #216) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:40 pm

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Do you believe I'm scum this game?
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Post Post #1705 (isolation #217) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:40 pm

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has your read on me changed?
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Post Post #1708 (isolation #218) » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:59 pm

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Fair enough, and I mostly agree with your reads

LJK should be the lynch today, not Saudude
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Post Post #1712 (isolation #219) » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:43 am

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In post 1709, RedPanda wrote:Icon what's your read on nancy interaction with me?
I don't feel town AtE. I feel and see deliberate, calculated moves to sway you. Just like with me.

But for what little I think I have played with Nancy, that's how it plays so it's actually NAI for me.
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Post Post #1839 (isolation #220) » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:25 pm

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Still vla

Voted prabably lynch yes

Talk tomorrow
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Post Post #1846 (isolation #221) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:47 am

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In post 1841, Saudade wrote:VOTE: ico little peasant you should have known better unlike the other lil peasants who never played with me
what in the world... Didn't I buss hard enough? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Post #1847 (isolation #222) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:00 am

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In post 1844, Saudade wrote:YoU aRe LuCkY I dIDnT mIsHaMmeR YoU
ur lucky you are still in this game
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Post Post #1848 (isolation #223) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:01 am

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In post 1708, Iconeum wrote:Fair enough, and I mostly agree with your reads

LJK should be the lynch today, not Saudude
This comes from LJK buddy? Seriously?
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Post Post #1858 (isolation #224) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:36 pm

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wtf is going on lol
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Post Post #1859 (isolation #225) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:37 pm

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can someone explain how i'm scum from their pov here?
I'm the one who pushed towards the LJK lynch when I could have had it on Saudude ...
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Post Post #1860 (isolation #226) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:51 pm

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In post 1852, RedPanda wrote:Icon why do u want to lynch voted?
PoE.
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Post Post #1861 (isolation #227) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:54 pm

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Voted -
Iconeum - town
Persivul (Panda) - Could have gone to Saudude lynch, but worked with me to get LJK lynched AFTER I PUSHED HIM THERE. So Town.
Datisi - Apparently captain decided to NOT follow the plan, and not protect me (the JK). And I'm still alive. So town.
Saudade - pushing LJK all game long, most likely not a bus. Town
Aubrey - Doc, was working with panda and myself to solve the game at EoD. Town.

I don't think it can be anything else then Voted.

I'll work on their intertwined ISO's in the coming hours.
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Post Post #1866 (isolation #228) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:09 pm

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In post 1862, RedPanda wrote:I'm having a hard time seeing a vanilla+LJK team but voted was my scumread when I replaced in so I'm not ruling it out.

Fmpov Datisi and Saud cannot be scum. datisi because of his actions night1 and 2 and saud interactions with LJK.

A no kill with a town jk is scary as fuck as last scum alive.

Datisi and saud if you agree to us three as townblock we can autowin with this.

lynch voted
Jk aubrey
lynch aubrey
lynch icon.
I don't agree with this, but it's from a mechanical PoV i'll explain my thoughts and you can just agree ur crush my thoughts :lol:
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Post Post #1867 (isolation #229) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:11 pm

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There's a no kill. Scum are not no killing on purpose, I assume.
I JK'd Datisi. Datisi is auto-clear.
Aubrey doc'd RP, which is a deviation from the plan so scum didn't know. SCUM DIDN'T KNOW. They had no reason to assume the SOLID plan wasn't going to be in place. THEY DIDN'T KNOW.

If Aubrey is scum, then there would have been a kill. Aubrey is cleared town imo. So is Redpanda.

If Voted isn't scum, then Saudude is.
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Post Post #1868 (isolation #230) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:12 pm

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The NK was directed at RP, that should be obvious right?

I actually understand I'm in the pool from your perspective because of this. Huh.
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Post Post #1869 (isolation #231) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:13 pm

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In any scenario, Voted is todays lynch.
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Post Post #1871 (isolation #232) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:18 pm

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In post 1868, Iconeum wrote:The NK was directed at RP, that should be obvious right?I actually understand I'm in the pool from your perspective because of this. Huh.
Datisi, I know. I came to that conclusion here
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Post Post #1872 (isolation #233) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:18 pm

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But still, Aubrey is never the second lynch. Doc is cleared.
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Post Post #1873 (isolation #234) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:19 pm

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Voted first, then me or Saudude.
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Post Post #1874 (isolation #235) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:19 pm

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And night actions are a thing, if Voted lynch turns green
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Post Post #1876 (isolation #236) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:32 pm

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Still, night actions are a thing if Voted is town.

Scum can only work around 2 protectives for so long until they run into trouble
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Post Post #1879 (isolation #237) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:59 pm

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You deviated from the plan, and there's a no kill. I don't think that's coincidence.
RP was a legit NK target, and I believe the doc stopped the kill.

Scum wouldn't have purposefully deviated from the plan to get a No Kill during night I believe.
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Post Post #1880 (isolation #238) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:59 pm

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In post 1877, Saudade wrote:Speaking from experience Ico babe?
Why are you voting me?
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Post Post #1881 (isolation #239) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:00 am

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I think I pushed LJK hard enough to at least get SOME town credit for it.

Voted is next in the pool. Should be obvious. If saudude wants to talk about why he thinks i'm the next lynch, i'm here.
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Post Post #1882 (isolation #240) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:06 am

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A quick ISO of myself to show how hard I pushed towards LJK lynch over anyone else.
If you think I bussed, then kill me. Simple as that
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In post 1407, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1405, Saudade wrote:Tempted to just end it all
Convince me to lynch Liz over you today?
In post 1523, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1431, RedPanda wrote:ok scum iconeum might not have risked that when doc aubrey was the best target so it goes back to why blake was killed instead of aubrey and I'm pretty sure it was because voted was the win condition and they were scared blake would be the one that would stop it.
In post 1500, RedPanda wrote:Can we just ignore players? We have two scum who don't have any control over power roles and who don't know what the power roles are apart from the doc? Do they really have the balls to let that strong foursome live?
The NK on BW is a tough one to dissect. Liz hydra had little to gain killing them, over say a doc. But then again, neither did Pers and they keep twisting this information to fit a narrative which i dislike.

I'm fine lynching saudude or Liz slot, I'm never lynching the Pers slot this day.
In post 1532, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1531, RedPanda wrote:LJK you asked me not to mech solve.

I think you stop trying to solve based on "blake has been known to not correctly read persi"
This really bothers me about the LJK slot. They are using blake's townread to justify themselves as conftown for not killing someone townreading them, but they turn it around when it involves
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In post 1526, RedPanda wrote:
Vote aubrey


I'm going to use occams razor.
Lynching the claimed doc huh
In post 1545, Iconeum wrote:I think I'm choosing LJK slot over Voted for lynch
In post 1549, Iconeum wrote:Feels to me like LKJ slot is trying to get out from an unwinneable 1v1 with you, Redpanda
In post 1553, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1551, RedPanda wrote:ljk partner can only be you ice :P
then consider this a hard bus and say thank you :lol:
In post 1708, Iconeum wrote:Fair enough, and I mostly agree with your reads

LJK should be the lynch today, not Saudude
In post 1712, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1709, RedPanda wrote:Icon what's your read on nancy interaction with me?
I don't feel town AtE. I feel and see deliberate, calculated moves to sway you. Just like with me.

But for what little I think I have played with Nancy, that's how it plays so it's actually NAI for me.
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Post Post #1883 (isolation #241) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:09 am

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From my PoE and night actions these are all town:

Datisi
Aubrey
RP

---

Saudude - because of his focus on flipped scum

---

Voted

If anyone wants to discuss this, have at it. If you truly think I bussed like that, lynch me. Kill Voted tomorrow.
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Post Post #1885 (isolation #242) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:30 am

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Voted's ISO is difficult to make sense of.

Pushing LJK, not following up on it. Continuesly pushes a scumteam of Icon/Datisi.

--> Locktowned B&W, so has incentive to kill them during night.

Fake hammered LJK, continued to push Icon/Datisi.

Came to a point where Voted wouldn't lynch outside of (Iconeum).
Then switches to Saudude.

Voted is all over the place. It would make sense if they are LJK buddy through ISO reading. This should be the lynch today.

Saudude if you help lynch Voted today, I will awknowledge (publicly) how good of a player you really are.
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Post Post #1888 (isolation #243) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:01 am

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In post 1887, Datisi wrote:In any case, another thought came to me. Voted wasn't online since before the end of Day 2. Unless he was online as hidden, maybe there's no nightkill simply because nobody was there to give it?
I don't like to play this game though.

I'd much rather talk about why Voted should be the next lynch, why Voted is scum, why I'm NOT scum :lol:
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Post Post #1889 (isolation #244) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:01 am

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VOTE: Voted

L-1
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Post Post #1891 (isolation #245) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:04 am

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Fairly sure it's scum
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Post Post #1897 (isolation #246) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:09 am

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why did i supposedly bus my partner instead of getting you lynched?
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Post Post #1898 (isolation #247) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:09 am

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I'm a big part of the reason YOUR read got lynched
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Post Post #1902 (isolation #248) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:56 am

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come saudude, hop onto this town wagon

it's the cool place to be

we have cake

the good kind
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Post Post #1916 (isolation #249) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:22 pm

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In post 1910, Saudade wrote:Stop it hes not even here to defend himself
In post 1911, Saudade wrote:Rushing this lynch is scum motivated to the infinite power factorial
here's an idea

why don't you defend Voted? Why am I more scummy then Voted?

If you wanna keep your perfect record, I suggest reconsidering your read
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Post Post #1922 (isolation #250) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:28 pm

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In post 1921, Saudade wrote:Tbh this is one boring game
i wonder why that's the case...

could it have to do with some of the players not here/refusing to play?
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Post Post #1923 (isolation #251) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:30 pm

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Scum just got lynched, a lot of night stuff happened. Someone's on L-1. We need to decide our PoE and lynchpool.
We are playing this game.

If you can't be arsed to participate, don't you flippin dare call this game boring because it's mostly because of you that this is the gamestate
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Post Post #1925 (isolation #252) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:31 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 1901, Saudade wrote:Nah this is enough
In post 1905, Saudade wrote:Whats the rush doll
In post 1907, Saudade wrote:Well I dont care
In post 1908, Saudade wrote:Blimey
In post 1910, Saudade wrote:Stop it hes not even here to defend himself
In post 1911, Saudade wrote:Rushing this lynch is scum motivated to the infinite power factorial
In post 1912, Saudade wrote:Which is a lot
In post 1917, Saudade wrote:I cant barely be arsed to defend myself you think im going to defend this halfwit afk newbie
In post 1918, Saudade wrote:Theres a typo there somewhere
In post 1920, Saudade wrote:Your life must be thrilling
In post 1921, Saudade wrote:Tbh this is one boring game
Get off your ass and start working with town for a win here, instead of lurking and prod dodging, calling this game boring
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Post Post #1927 (isolation #253) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:34 pm

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ofcourse not?
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Post Post #1928 (isolation #254) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:35 pm

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JK on Datisi again, doc can go anywhere you feel like :)
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Post Post #1929 (isolation #255) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:35 pm

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Even though I wouldn't mind something like doc on Datisi, JK on saudude if Votes flips town
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Post Post #1930 (isolation #256) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:37 pm

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Saudude and Voted are all that's left in my lynchpool right now, Voted on top. I have strong townreads in the rest of you lol
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Post Post #1933 (isolation #257) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:44 pm

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Is that important?
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Post Post #1934 (isolation #258) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:45 pm

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In post 1931, Datisi wrote:
We need to agree on a solid 100%-scumproof plan so i can throw it in the trash and do the exact opposite again.
Kinda want to believe the is an optimal strategy here somewhere, but i don't see it yet
Now this is anti-town
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Post Post #1941 (isolation #259) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:47 pm

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Keep it simple

Assume we lynch Voted, and flips town. You have a doc and JK available. You want to doc protect whoever you feel has the highest chance of having bullet in the head syndrome. You wanna JK whoever you think is the last scum.

If I was captain, I'd doc either myself or RP again. JK goes onto Saudude.
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Post Post #1943 (isolation #260) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:48 pm

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In post 1935, Saudade wrote:Just lynch Ico and its game over mates
I WAS THE REASON SCUM GOT LYNCHED YESTERDAY
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Post Post #1945 (isolation #261) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:48 pm

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In post 1942, Datisi wrote:
In post 1933, Iconeum wrote:Is that important?
I'm trying to figure out now what to do if/when we get to mylo/lylo and I'm still alive
A better thought might be
who
you want alive in LYLO/MYLO
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Post Post #1948 (isolation #262) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:49 pm

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oh yeah very scummy to think contingency when the Captain has to send in orders pre flip
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Post Post #1949 (isolation #263) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:49 pm

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In post 1947, Saudade wrote:You were the reason he survived this long tho as well
you mean past D1? and got hung D2?
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Post Post #1953 (isolation #264) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:51 pm

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I had opportunity to steer RP together with LJK onto you, Saudude, and get you lynched. Instead I did the opposite and got RP back on LJK.
In what world do I bus my scumpartner like that? What scum motive does that serve?

You know what it is? Lynching scum. That's what I did. And you want to hang me for it.
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Post Post #1959 (isolation #265) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:53 pm

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In post 307, Saudade wrote:VOTE: voted
You were on the right track here
In post 345, Saudade wrote:Can we vote voted now
Still on the right track
In post 918, Saudade wrote:VOTE: zeebu
Oh,
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In post 919, Saudade wrote:Give me the flip babyyyyy give me something goooood
Mhhmm
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Post Post #1965 (isolation #266) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:56 pm

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In post 1955, Saudade wrote:
In post 1953, Iconeum wrote:I had opportunity to steer RP together with LJK onto you, Saudude, and get you lynched. Instead I did the opposite and got RP back on LJK.
In what world do I bus my scumpartner like that? What scum motive does that serve?

You know what it is? Lynching scum. That's what I did. And you want to hang me for it.
This is a lie and a misrep





You can take your misrep and shove it
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Post Post #1968 (isolation #267) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:57 pm

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In post 1962, Datisi wrote:VOTE: Saudade
don't tempt me...

we can just lynch scum first
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Post Post #1970 (isolation #268) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:58 pm

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In post 1967, Saudade wrote:Im not even going to open those
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Post Post #1971 (isolation #269) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:59 pm

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If all your victories, that you boast so much about, are like this game... then you haven't earned a single one of them
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Post Post #1972 (isolation #270) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:01 am

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In post 1962, Datisi wrote:VOTE: Saudade
don't feed the troll.

he's not worth it

he's not the best lynch today
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Post Post #1976 (isolation #271) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:06 am

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In post 1973, Saudade wrote:
In post 1971, Iconeum wrote:If all your victories, that you boast so much about, are like this game... then you haven't earned a single one of them
You got carriee by me first hane shut up clown
what's wrong? run out of actual arguments to use that you have to fall back on personal attacks?

don't worry, i'm gonna repay you this game for that one and carry your sorry ass this game
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Post Post #1980 (isolation #272) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:08 am

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In post 1978, Saudade wrote:Icoooo you better stop right here beforeeeeeee
ur already on my back and i'm running to the finish line
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Post Post #1982 (isolation #273) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:09 am

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In post 1979, Saudade wrote:Ill do the counter theorem on your face
just the way i like it
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Post Post #1983 (isolation #274) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:12 am

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how can i get saudude on voted hmmmmm
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Post Post #1984 (isolation #275) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:13 am

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In post 1959, Iconeum wrote:
In post 307, Saudade wrote:VOTE: voted
You were on the right track here
In post 345, Saudade wrote:Can we vote voted now
Still on the right track
In post 918, Saudade wrote:VOTE: zeebu
Oh,
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In post 919, Saudade wrote:Give me the flip babyyyyy give me something goooood
Mhhmm

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Post Post #1987 (isolation #276) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:16 am

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In post 1986, Saudade wrote:Listen here you lil epsilon
no i don't think I will, unless you vote Voted
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Post Post #1990 (isolation #277) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:42 am

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Datisi what is your locktown pool?
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Post Post #1992 (isolation #278) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:49 am

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Let's start with Aubrey - how do you think this slot is possibly scum?
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Post Post #1994 (isolation #279) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:58 am

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In post 1993, Datisi wrote:Mechanics mostly. As much as an unprotected doc staying alive is a great lynch bait, I can't help but to have doubts. And they were the biggest defender of LJK.
why was there no NK
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Post Post #1995 (isolation #280) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:03 am

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In post 925, ChibiBear wrote:

VOTE COUNT 1.14zeebu (5): Datisi, Iconeum, Persivul, Blake x Weiss, Saudade LYNCH
Datisi (2): Aubrey, Voted
Saudade (1): Michael Scott
Michael Scott (1): zeebu

Not Voting (0): None.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
LJK/Voted means zeebu was an all-town wagon though… hmmm
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Post Post #1997 (isolation #281) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:07 am

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VOTE COUNT 2.09Liz Jack and Kenneth (4): Iconeum, Saudade, RedPanda, Datisi LYNCH
Saudade (3): Aubrey, Voted, Liz Jack and Kenneth

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Could be an all-town wagon again, with scum desperately trying to counterwagon Saudude here
This vote count pretty much clears Saudude however, there's not gonna be a counterwagon with 3 votes on it that isn't scum
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Post Post #1998 (isolation #282) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:08 am

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In post 1996, Datisi wrote:But I'm simply not 100% convinced he's innocent.
Well, I suppose I shouldn't have called it locktown then.
I'm not 100% convinced you are town, either. Nor RP. Or anyone.
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Post Post #1999 (isolation #283) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:10 am

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D2 if there was scum on LJK lynch they had every opportunity to counterlynch Saudude. But they didn't. Why? Because they probably were already voting there...
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Post Post #2002 (isolation #284) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:16 am

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'tis a game of chance and probability, aint it.

Voted is first up in the PoE, Voted comes out the bottom end of the Vote Counts, there's no reason this slot isn't getting lynched today.
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Post Post #2004 (isolation #285) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:24 am

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I think it's a mistake to talk about optimal night actions, and have you not follow them
It's the quickest way to lose the game if Voted isn't scum
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Post Post #2007 (isolation #286) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:27 am

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Voted is the only one who hasn't checked in. The only slot I want to sort outside of Voted is unwilling to cooperate. I'm fine ending the day.
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Post Post #2009 (isolation #287) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:29 am

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In post 2008, Saudade wrote:I think we are such terrible company Voted left the site
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Post Post #2010 (isolation #288) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:30 am

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Post Post #2015 (isolation #289) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:36 am

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In post 2014, Saudade wrote:Im an excellent company I was being nice to you including myself
You would look so much better if you helped lynch both scum this game

but you aren't
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Post Post #2016 (isolation #290) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:37 am

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Yo captain sir, you've sent in actions right?
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Post Post #2017 (isolation #291) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:38 am

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You should probably tell the rest of the plebs what your plan is, so if you die that they know what's up
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Post Post #2021 (isolation #292) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:46 am

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In post 2018, Aubrey wrote:Oh the choices. Do I keep the monster at bay but potentially be a monster myself, or do you keep your trusted knight with you that has kept you alive so far, but limits your quest in potentially finding scum.

Glad I’m not in your shoes :)
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Post Post #2042 (isolation #293) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:26 am

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woop woop
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Post Post #2045 (isolation #294) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:28 am

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In post 2043, Saudade wrote:Im going to get a perfect grade in my vector calculus final
you got to focus on that while we won this game for you
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Post Post #2049 (isolation #295) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:32 am

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In post 2048, Datisi wrote:gah this waiting is killing me.
if that's the only thing killing you we're good
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Post Post #2054 (isolation #296) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:37 pm

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In post 2053, Datisi wrote:Jesus christ I'm alive i was so sure i was gonna die
how were you ever going to die?

night actions please
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Post Post #2055 (isolation #297) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:38 pm

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i don't know how to solve this game

i came in here wanting to go after Aubrey

i suck
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Post Post #2058 (isolation #298) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:10 pm

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I didn't wanna go after Saudude yesterday, that's just not true.
He was next in line in my PoE, sure.

If you think you were going to be the NK, that means you think I was going to disobey and kill you ?
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Post Post #2059 (isolation #299) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:12 pm

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who'd you send Aubrey on?
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Post Post #2060 (isolation #300) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:19 pm

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In any case, this is 4p MYLO

Datisi - Captain
Ico - JK
Redpanda - Confirmed VT (I jailed him last night)
Saudude - the dude

If we no lynch, Datisi can JK Saudude.
If there's a NK, I'm pretty much confirmed scum. With RP confirmed town, and I strongly believe Datisi is town, this is a good way to win the game where I only lose to a scum!Datisi.
If there's no NK, we lynch Saudude.

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Post Post #2061 (isolation #301) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:19 pm

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In post 2058, Iconeum wrote:I didn't wanna go after Saudude yesterday, that's just not true.
He was next in line in my PoE, sure.

If you think you were going to be the NK, that means you think I was going to disobey and kill you ?
Sorry i just woke up :lol:

I jk'd Redpanda, and I suppose you used Aubrey to protect yourself?
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Post Post #2067 (isolation #302) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:26 pm

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In post 2064, Datisi wrote:When I said I thought I was dead, I figured that would've been the most likely case if either of the PR's are scum (scum! Aubrey disobeys and claims he was sent on someone else, scum!Icon jails Aubrey and kills me)
I couldn't have jailed Aubrey unless you ordered me. Disobeying only allows me to not perform ordered action.
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Post Post #2068 (isolation #303) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:27 pm

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In post 2066, Datisi wrote:Yeah I missed this line in my first read through It's really not sitting well with me Icon
I realize that this doesn't confirm it for any of you, only from my perspective

I'm open to suggestions that gives us a mechanical win or something close to it
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Post Post #2072 (isolation #304) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:30 pm

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i'm not the scum here though
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Post Post #2074 (isolation #305) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:31 pm

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In post 2073, Saudade wrote:You are so bad how did you make it this far friend
Yes i'm so terrible for lynching scum
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Post Post #2078 (isolation #306) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:35 pm

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Can you smoke something good, and tell me who you think scum is if you knew i was town?
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Post Post #2079 (isolation #307) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:35 pm

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Ofcourse you don't have to because 1 mislynch wins a scum!saudude the game :)
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Post Post #2080 (isolation #308) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:35 pm

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I mean, if you can't fake your towngame, then you are town. And that means Datisi is scum -_-
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Post Post #2088 (isolation #309) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:40 pm

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In post 2086, Saudade wrote:Oh wait rp is conftown due to the jailkeep so fuck you
i said this myself just a few posts ago...
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Post Post #2090 (isolation #310) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:42 pm

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In post 2089, Saudade wrote:If you lynch me i get to shit on all of you for being right all along twice and you have no skill
If we lynch ico i say ggwp scum next time dont ate rep out n back in for townie brownie points
i did no such thing
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Post Post #2093 (isolation #311) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:42 pm

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someone told me if Saudude is playing like this he's town

Saudude has been all over LJK's face this game
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Post Post #2094 (isolation #312) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:43 pm

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VOTE: Datisi
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Post Post #2095 (isolation #313) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:43 pm

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i was right all along

scum had full controll over the night actions that's why the PR's stayed alive for so long
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Post Post #2097 (isolation #314) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:44 pm

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In post 2096, Datisi wrote:What is it Ico? Your Saudade push isn't working?
I'm not pushing saudude
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Post Post #2098 (isolation #315) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:45 pm

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You just blindsided me this game, wp
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Post Post #2100 (isolation #316) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:47 pm

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i'm not scum
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Post Post #2101 (isolation #317) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:48 pm

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Thinking out loud how to solve this game isn't scum either
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Post Post #2102 (isolation #318) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:48 pm

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In post 2099, Datisi wrote:"if there's no nk we lynch sau""oh wait shit that sounds scummy""nvm sau u town and if rp is confirmed and if you're town and if I'm somehow town that leavessssssss"
this is literally what went through my mind yes
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Post Post #2103 (isolation #319) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:49 pm

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UNVOTE:

I don't know what to do :lol:
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Post Post #2105 (isolation #320) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:50 pm

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In post 2104, Datisi wrote:What, hoping we'd forget that scum can no-kill?
I don't know why a scum!Datisi would chose to not kill that night
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Post Post #2107 (isolation #321) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:53 pm

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It's literally you or saudude yes

trying to make up my mind here

I also just said how i don't think it's you either

You both have stuff going for you
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Post Post #2108 (isolation #322) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:53 pm

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TRYING TO SORT IS NOT SCUMMY
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Post Post #2109 (isolation #323) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:53 pm

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Datisi, if you are town, you also only have 2 options

why am i scum over saudude or vice versa?
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Post Post #2110 (isolation #324) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:54 pm

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we also need the pandabear in here
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Post Post #2113 (isolation #325) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:14 pm

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In post 209, Datisi wrote:
In post 208, Persivul wrote:
In post 207, Datisi wrote:I'm trying to purposefully ignore that whole "she unvoted them voted blah blah blah" thing everyone keeps dragging on.
You got nothing AI out of that?
I'm soon going to get suspicious of people who kept making a big deal out of that. The vote/unvote itself wasn't particularly AI for me.
Defending LJK early game after LJK took heat for their unvote
In post 1136, Datisi wrote:
In post 1079, Persivul wrote:
In post 1076, Iconeum wrote:I do but it srarts with the captain
The captain is scum. WTF makes you think they'll claim?
So have you given up on this? Or is LJK/me the Hot New Scumteam?
I don't think scum!datisi draws attention like this
In post 1164, Datisi wrote:
In post 1163, Iconeum wrote:omg this wifom is killing me
You're telling me :lol:
Doesn't feel faked, and I have had the feeling that Datisi has been gamesolving. If this is faked, he faked a lot of EoD stuff where 'the suspense is killing him'
In post 1207, Datisi wrote:I have read the setup, thank you. Knowing that Follower can't detect factional kills, what was I supposed to do with you? I had no idea who the JK was, so in that regard I could've chosen your target randomly. Making you follow Saudade was a trap to see if you were going to accuse him of anything. You didn't, so why are you getting pissy at me now?
His captain claim, which gave a lot of town credit imo. I think if this was made by scum i'm willing to lose to it
In post 1234, Datisi wrote:I wanted to send them both onto the same person. I was hoping one of them would disobey and try to kill their tagret. It did not work and I'm sorry. Maybe your god-tier mafia skills would allow you to make the correct move, we don't know. But what is done is done, and you're currently the most likely lynch. Maybe instead of "if I were the capeI would have--" you actually try to defend yourself?
Again, AtE doesn't feel faked, and shows why he ordered both PR's on same target. Scum captain is more likely to try and fake a good 'normal' town move.
In post 1733, Datisi wrote:
In post 1731, Saudade wrote:
In post 1729, Aubrey wrote:Im past the point of caring anymore. Do what y’all want.
I relate to this in all 5 dimensions
+1 to this. This game is getting tiring.

VOTE: Liz Jack and Kenneth

Just a reminder:
In post 1698, Datisi wrote:
If I die tonight, Ico eats rope tomorrow, no questions asked.
This doesn't have scum motivation or intent behind it.
In post 1824, Datisi wrote:Aubrey I swear to god. I swear to satan. I swear to whatever are you kidding me.
What I said earlier. If this is scum he put up quite a big show.

I'm gonna commit to my Datisi townread

If datisi is scum he played a lot better then saudude and deserves the win

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Post Post #2114 (isolation #326) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:15 pm

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In post 2111, Datisi wrote:Honestly the post with "if no nk kill sau" is screaming scum to me
Saying "we only lose to scum!Datisi" after pretty much the whole game agreed I was town is pinging me as well
The only thing that was fkin with me is that i was sure i was gonna die in case you or Aubrey are scum but if what you're saying about disobeying is true then fk that doubt is removed as well
You should try and look at that from my perspective

If we went ahead with that plan, scum!saudude has nowhere to hide. It guilties him, and I would only lose if you are actually the scum here
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Post Post #2115 (isolation #327) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:16 pm

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The only problem with that plan is that it only clears from my perspective, not yours
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Post Post #2120 (isolation #328) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:30 pm

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In post 2119, Saudade wrote:Do you feel the rope starting to tighten around your neck Ico
I do

I sure do

But lynching me will lose the game for town
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Post Post #2121 (isolation #329) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:30 pm

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If you are town, it's a shame you didn't put as much effort into gamesolving as you did into shitposting

we might have won then
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Post Post #2124 (isolation #330) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:33 pm

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In post 2123, Datisi wrote:I'm trying to see things from your perspective

And I don't understand why you're wasting your breath explaining to me why I'm Town
at the very least i'm trying to explain my thoughts, unlike another certain individual
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Post Post #2125 (isolation #331) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:35 pm

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In post 2123, Datisi wrote:I'm trying to see things from your perspective

And I don't understand why you're wasting your breath explaining to me why I'm Town
wasting my breath?

It comes down to either scum!datisi or scum!saudude

Saudude's been all over confirmed scum all game long (LJK), do you think me doubting is unfounded? Am I supposed to just swallow that Saudude has been bussing THE ENTIRE GAME?
I went back and looked at the reasons I thought you were town for. I put them up here.

I don't think i'm wasting my breath
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Post Post #2126 (isolation #332) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:39 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #2127 (isolation #333) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:56 pm

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I don't think any of this comes from a scum!Saudude…
Spoiler:
In post 156, Saudade wrote:
In post 154, Liz and Jack wrote:
In post 51, Saudade wrote:
In post 48, Datisi wrote:
In post 47, Saudade wrote:VOTE: Datisi
dance for me
No, I don't think I will.
look at you, strong and independent, did you flip green or red mate
I really dislike this.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Saudade
I dont think you're going to survive a dance with me mate
In post 355, Saudade wrote:daily reminder that Liz AND jack are still voting me for a one line quote during rvs
In post 509, Saudade wrote:VOTE: Liz hydra
In post 510, Saudade wrote:Rope this easy win
In post 655, Saudade wrote:VOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and JackVOTE: Liz and Jack
In post 660, Saudade wrote:stupid hydra coward
In post 705, Saudade wrote:Perci why are you against liz n jack lynch
to win a game of mafia you need to lynch a mafia

??
?


Why didn't you push this harder, Saudude:
In post 539, Saudade wrote:
In post 538, Datisi wrote:Sure, let's ask him.
VOTE: zeebu
L-1

Yo zeebu, why didn't you vote your scumread?

this pingssssssss meeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Post Post #2129 (isolation #334) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:04 am

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I could just as easily commit to either case without me exposing myself like this

If my intention was to convince you guys of scum!each others, I would be making scum cases not town cases
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Post Post #2131 (isolation #335) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:15 am

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neither of you make good sense to me for scum
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Post Post #2132 (isolation #336) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:17 am

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In post 2128, Datisi wrote:I'm getting a feeling you're trying to throw out cases for both scum!me and scum!Sau and you are hoping at least one of them sticks and one of us starts calling the other scum
I'm actually throwing out cases for both TOWN!you and TOWN!Saudude…

and i'm a bit surprised you aren't trying to sort us
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Post Post #2133 (isolation #337) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:23 am

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Datisi, you should be considering me or Saudude as last scum. Where are your thoughts on the matter?
You've been here, but are not sorting or questioning or ISO'ing that I can see…
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Post Post #2135 (isolation #338) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:43 am

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Have you seen me play before?
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Post Post #2136 (isolation #339) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:44 am

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Icon saying scummy things like this does not equal scum!Icon at all lol
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Post Post #2137 (isolation #340) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:45 am

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Do you see my possible intent behind what I'm saying, though? I think that is most likely what matters
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Post Post #2138 (isolation #341) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:46 am

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Can you at least respond to why i'm maybe wrong in thinking Saudude could be town for reasons I posted earlier?
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Post Post #2139 (isolation #342) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:48 am

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VLA weekend
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Post Post #2143 (isolation #343) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:50 am

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Thanks, I will :D
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Post Post #2144 (isolation #344) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:50 am

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Hakuna Matata
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Post Post #2149 (isolation #345) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:07 am

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In post 2146, Datisi wrote:
In post 2138, Iconeum wrote:Can you at least respond to why i'm maybe wrong in thinking Saudude could be town for reasons I posted earlier?
Jesus where do i start with this post
No
You want me to argue why Sau is scum really
Sau hasn't really done anything scum this game

-He pushed LJK from the start (right after the vote unvote thing)
-Has tunnelled ever since (his town meta)

So yeah, i want to argue about why the things are posted are NOT town indicative
It amounts to the same conclusion

Sorting
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Post Post #2150 (isolation #346) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:08 am

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In post 2148, RedPanda wrote:hey im conf town
Yes, but you are also the only one with a pool of 3 players instead of 2 from which to choose...
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Post Post #2152 (isolation #347) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:11 am

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In post 2151, Datisi wrote:If i told you i think they are town indicative
Then what
then you come the only logical conclusion: i have to be scum
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Post Post #2154 (isolation #348) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:16 am

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In post 2153, Datisi wrote:Tbh I was half expecting you to call me scum there
Anyway yes. Shouldn't you maybe try to provide a case why you're town???
'Half expecting' when it's literally a 50/50 lol

I could provide stuff why i'm town

Like getting scum lynched
Convincing others to lynch scum
Sorting

But feel free to do it yourself? I won't have time until Monday in any case
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Post Post #2155 (isolation #349) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:19 am

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It comes down to this very basic stuff for me:

Either Saudude replicates his town game when scum by tunneling (only that he started bussing from way way early)
Or Datisi is scum, scum rolled a PR and double chain of command role, and that's the reason why both PR's got to live for so long (because scum had 100% control over them)

Can you see my conflict here?
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Post Post #2157 (isolation #350) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:39 am

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it doesn't
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Post Post #2159 (isolation #351) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:47 am

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In post 2076, Saudade wrote:I wish someone here knew me from a previous game
In post 2077, Saudade wrote:That would make this so much easier )';
I share these thoughts lol
In post 2060, Iconeum wrote:In any case, this is 4p MYLO

Datisi - Captain
Ico - JK
Redpanda - Confirmed VT (I jailed him last night)
Saudude - the dude

If we no lynch, Datisi can JK Saudude.
If there's a NK, I'm pretty much confirmed scum. With RP confirmed town, and I strongly believe Datisi is town, this is a good way to win the game where I only lose to a scum!Datisi.
If there's no NK, we lynch Saudude.

Thoughts?
This was my first draft at an attempt that could hopefully solve this game
Notice how I said that I still lose to a scum!Datisi in this scenario?
Rawr!
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#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
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Post Post #2184 (isolation #352) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:54 am

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RIP
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Post Post #2186 (isolation #353) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:02 am

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what you see is not my scumgame
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Post Post #2188 (isolation #354) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:03 am

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it's always sad for being scumread when efforting and trying to solve, but the one person who is not doing anything gets the towncredit
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