Open 762: CK9++ [Over!]

[Sakura Hana]

implosion, your name sounds familiar have I played with you before?

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Gamma
How dare you, our mayor died and all you can say is "niiice"?
>:(

[Sakura Hana]

phil is basically guaranteed to either be scum or towntell very hard very quickly when put under pressure so let's go friends

Sure
VOTE: phill
3 votes isnt a "hard rolling" wagon when it's 7 to lynch.

[Sakura Hana]

Also hi Gamma, we meet again.

[Sakura Hana]

Also @Sakura uhhhhh you voted me at the start and just now remember who I am, what?

No i've always known who you were i just forgot to say hi :3

[Sakura Hana]

Opportunistic how?

[Sakura Hana]

I think this James person is town.

[Sakura Hana]

Just skimmed through everything but, no, the question i asked didnt exactly help my townread, i felt it was a weird way to use the word "opportunistic" but it was related to what James posted around that time after my question which gave me the TR.
Would like to participate more rn, but im currently drowning in work.

[Sakura Hana]

So on the last page Phil comes off as very town. E.g., 62-64 is a good reaction.

I'd like some explanation on that, it gave me the opposite impression (i.e. he looked for the easiest thing to latch on to (the person going against the regular flow of mafia))

James comes off more strongly as giving off his personality than giving anything useful for reading him, which is a bit annoying. James is spending paragraphs talking about how RVS is inferior, which is basically spending paragraphs talking about nothing. Post 72 is such an absurd way to use logic. It's just not useful. It's like he's framing it as a formal logical argument to show he can, and then the flaw that he points out in the way that he's formalizing it isn't even the actual flaw in the argument, it's just a premise that he disagrees with (the actual flaw being that the argument all A are B, C is not A, therefore C is not B being invalid).

I cant even understand this paragraph.
I thought the point was that his "lack of RVS" has gotten us out of RVS.

and is apparently the only person who actually read the mod's posts, which is always a plus.

Uh what.
That's like NAI?
If anything i'd think scum are more likely to not miss information in thread, and that's even stretching it.

Well... that was everything worth replying to, I only made inference to imposion's points on Phil and James because i hadnt ever explained those reads.

[Sakura Hana]

reference, not inference
English is hard.

[Sakura Hana]

Can people start doing more AI stuff.

[Sakura Hana]

I think either implosion or me are reading this game upside down.

[Sakura Hana]

I think implosion's town tho, even if their reads are the complete opposite of mine.

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura, while talking reads......what do you think of per and myself?

I mean, that post implosion made, just flip the reads and they are mine, that's what im referring to xD

Can people start doing more AI stuff.

More of a reactionary sort of player?

Also Sakura, can you answer this por favor.

It depends a lot on the players themselves, most of the time i read 2 players interactions and i can figure out the alignment of one or both, other times i have to do interacting myself, but, my weakness is that when i do that and i scumread the player i end up tunneling.

[Sakura Hana]

I'm active when im not busy.

[Sakura Hana]

So Phillammom, you seem odd... your ISO isnt the best

Ouch. Coming right after a VC showing Phil as the leading wagon, this is really bad.

Now that you mention it...
I hadn't thought about that

[Sakura Hana]

I feel like you guys are too scared to do this
VOTE: Thespio

[Sakura Hana]

Don't think his response would change my mind / replacement shares the same alignment.
I dont expect a potential scum Thespio to tell the truth regarding of what happened there.
I do expect however a potential town Thespio to town it up.

[Sakura Hana]

Specially via applied pressure, people's alignments become more obvious.

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But I feel like the game's going in circles with everyone talking about HOW BAD that post was, but no one wants to vote there.

[Sakura Hana]

"flash wagon this" "flash wagon that"
what is a "flash" wagon.
Wagon speed is not indicative of anything.
Besides there's only 3 votes, that hardly means a "flash" wagon. But i do think more votes would be nice.

[Sakura Hana]

Casting shade on the largest wagon right after a vote count or something.

[Sakura Hana]

Open games seem as slow as i remember them to be.

[Sakura Hana]

So you would rather me fabricate reads on people i dont have reads on rather than have them develop naturally?

[Sakura Hana]

I always share reads as I get them, if i havent shared any reads on someone either i dont have any or they werent that memorable.

[Sakura Hana]

Yeah pretty sure we're all waiting on that.

[Sakura Hana]

So Thespio comes here to say he's going to catch up and then he doesnt catch up.
I think i'll stay where i am.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh yes, that's certainly amazing.
But is he scum.

[Sakura Hana]

Well i kinda wanted to pressure thesp to do more.
But I agree with you that does sound like scum.
VOTE: dry

[Sakura Hana]

#WagonSpeedIsNotIndicativeOfAnything

[Sakura Hana]

I think in this case it could mean Thespio is a wolf who wolves want to create a counterwagon to

So, you?

[Sakura Hana]

It's like it's a different flavored wagon every day.

[Sakura Hana]

First there was a phil wagon, then thesp wagon, then dry fit wagon.
And eveyrone gets scared everytime these wagons get off.

You'll never lynch scum like this.

[Sakura Hana]

I like this formerfish person for town.

[Sakura Hana]

You voted Gamma and then 1 person voted after you, 2 posts later you unvote because things are moving too fast.

This is basically this entire game so far.
Every.
Single.
Wagon.
"OH MY GOD TOO FAST WAGON"

[Sakura Hana]

I think this James person is town.

I think youre right. Do you have a read off Phil in this situation, or just JB?

At that point i had him as scum.
Not sure what to think of him right now coz of the latest wagon developments.

[Sakura Hana]

You know, i never noticed that.

[Sakura Hana]

Can people start doing more AI stuff.

Be a leader. There has been plenty said that you could push at this point. You've seemed town so far, this seems lazy and scummy.

Im not a good leader.

[Sakura Hana]

You think?

[Sakura Hana]

I think either implosion or me are reading this game upside down.

If you are town and you are seeing someone see the opposite of everything you see, what does that usually tell you?

I used to think they are scum, but that isnt always the case i learned the hard way.

[Sakura Hana]

Well he's pretty town yeah.

[Sakura Hana]

This is getting boring.
I feel like I was reading an exciting book and i can predict how it will end.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: implo
I feel like this guy's just dodging the issue. 547 pinged me particularly as explaining something using a recent post instead of explaining what was actually asked (how was phil town back then).

[Sakura Hana]

Hana, I need you to explain your vote history to me.

You were on phil, and then when thes said he thought phil was suspect you voted thes.

Then Dry voted for thes, and you voted for dry.

It seems like you are scumreading the people who are scumreading the people you are currently voting and you keep changing your vote to the person who most recently voted or sr the person youre on.

Why?

My reads are pretty flickle on day 1.
I felt Phil was scummy, but after implosion explained dry i felt like that was scummier so i voted dry, but now i didnt like the implo post i linked so there's a 180 there.

Sorry if im bad at explaining orz

[Sakura Hana]

Do you feel like you are on an island?

Honestly, i feel more like im on a jungle.

[Sakura Hana]

Presumably coz no day talk in this setup?

[Sakura Hana]

Do you feel like you are on an island?

Honestly, i feel more like im on a jungle.

Find a machete.

And a compass too, probably.

[Sakura Hana]

But the thing is...
I feel like Fish's been asking implo about his townread of phil for a while, specially the tr early in the game, and then implo comes and quotes a late post saying "See this is why he's town" instead of actually explaining the early townread, which feels to me like he's dodging the issue.

[Sakura Hana]

I dont think i purposefully make empty votes, more like i have a hard time explaining things.

[Sakura Hana]

Townreads

Thespio

[Sakura Hana]

This game is going slow.
Dry-fit, Sakura, Drew — what do all of you feel about FF’s catch-up and FF and implosion’s battling?

you could've the answer to this faster if you read my ISO.

[Sakura Hana]

But since you've waited all this time
FF town
Imp scum

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VOTE: gobbledygook

Reservations about wagon movement are gone so I’m willing to move back here since my read hasn’t changed

Must not have been good "Reservations".

[Sakura Hana]

That's... an awkward reason to townread someone who has many more reasons to be townread.

[Sakura Hana]

It's a really awkward reason to focus on for explaining your TR.

[Sakura Hana]

Means they thought the same thing as they were reading.

[Sakura Hana]

Re: Book:
Well as I was reading the catchup i liked the content ff was mentioning, and i liked that he was agreeing with my reads and thoughts in most instances, but after a while im like "Well i already know what his reads are gonna be like by the end anyway" and so i went to sleep.
Re: Wagons:
It's Indicative of something yes, but the "what" differs from reaction to reaction, some people do truly believe that fast wagon speed is indicative of a wagon on town, others are scum using it as a way to jump ship (and possibly scare ppl off a wagon on a partner?).

[Sakura Hana]

That's... an awkward reason to townread someone who has many more reasons to be townread.

It's a really awkward reason to focus on for explaining your TR.

Is it though? Explain to me why it’s awkward

for me

to use that as a basis to townread a player.

First of all it seems you're ignoring everything else Fish has posted.
Second have you never seen scum ask for reads lists?

[Sakura Hana]

Totally reasonable on both counts, thanks. Bump Sakura up to townlean on previous readlist, I'm pretty sure I just convinced myself her behaviour was scummy rather than actually seeing any scummy behaviour, if that makes sense.

Cool.
But i still think you're scum.

[Sakura Hana]

>Too off to keep around?

[Sakura Hana]

More importantly why do you townread Phil, chemist, Gob?
Why do you scumread James?

[Sakura Hana]

Totally reasonable on both counts, thanks. Bump Sakura up to townlean on previous readlist, I'm pretty sure I just convinced myself her behaviour was scummy rather than actually seeing any scummy behaviour, if that makes sense.

Cool.
But i still think you're scum.

do you have more reads, your iso doesnt have many?

Yes I do, everytime i form a read i mention it in the thread. It's an habit of mine.

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First of all it seems you're ignoring everything else Fish has posted.
Second have you never seen scum ask for reads lists?

hana, are you grilling Gob because you disagree with the read, or the way that he got it?

the way he got it.
I thought it was obvious i townread you i mentioned it in thread, and i've been asked like 1000000 times about it >_<

[Sakura Hana]

Yes I do, everytime i form a read i mention it in the thread. It's an habit of mine.

Youve talked about me, JB, Imp, Gob, Thes and now Phil. I miss anyone?

Chemist too:

I think in this case it could mean Thespio is a wolf who wolves want to create a counterwagon to

So, you?

And dry-fit:

Well i kinda wanted to pressure thesp to do more.
But I agree with you that does sound like scum.
VOTE: dry

[Sakura Hana]

So do you think scumGob comes in and buddies me right out of the gate?

Idk what scumGob does or doesn't do.
But I think it's a really awkward reason to townread someone.
So I guess the answer is probably yes?

[Sakura Hana]

Oh well that's even better then.

[Sakura Hana]

Chemist I just feel like has good points

I dont see any good points?
If anything going through their ISO makes me want to be voting there instead.

[Sakura Hana]

i think ill do that actually
VOTE: chemist

[Sakura Hana]

i think ill do that actually
VOTE: chemist

So you are cool with voting along side your scum read of Phil on Chem?

Yes why?

[Sakura Hana]

No reason, just making sure you knew Phil was voting in the same place. Do you see Phil and Chem being scum together? Why would Phil have his vote parked on his buddy like that?

Could be, could not be, that's analysis for pos-flip tbh, i have independent scumreads on each.

But if you really want to know, i dont know how scum either would operate, considering i dont know chem nor phil, it's very hard to tell if they are a buser or not, or if they are voting them coz of ML, or if they are poking them to start doing stuff as a partner. I don't have meta knowledge on either and im not good at doing meta dives, so I just rather follow my gut and not care.

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura why can't you see Chemist as town?

Isnt this supposed to be "Why you see chemist as scum?"
Coz i cant answer how i cant see something im not seeing

[Sakura Hana]

Spoiler: Chemist posts i dislike

Chemist, I'll be honest with you, when I said that I had totally misread the setup and thought that 7 Ts was the only one with a serial killer. That said, fair.

Then why did you not say "we don't have an SK"?

Is this serious?
Because that’s a lousy excuse for a vote if I’ve ever seen one.

It's not like I can't change it if something stronger comes up

I don't think Thespio's ISO justifies this flash wagon

It's not good but nothing worse than nullscum on their last post

That wagon moved faster than I'm comfortable with

UNVOTE:

VOTE: gobbledygook

Reservations about wagon movement are gone so I’m willing to move back here since my read hasn’t changed

From those both times complaining about wagon speed i really disliked

[Sakura Hana]

Also Gamma you know how i feel about explaining things specially on D1.

[Sakura Hana]

especially since with Implo as scum the wagon fluidity is probably scum motivated.

but we dont know if he's scum yet, i think he's scum, but-

Why am i even bothering explaining.

[Sakura Hana]

Thespio (5, L-2!): Jackall711, Persivul, Dry-fit, James Brafin, Phillammon

Never on fire huh?

[Sakura Hana]

Unless im misunderstand that with "under fire"

[Sakura Hana]

@Mod: my name's Sakura Hana not Sakura Hara

Also
VOTE: Thesp
didn't realize we were so close to deadline already.

[Sakura Hana]

@Mod: my name's Sakura Hana not Sakura Hara

Also
VOTE: Thesp
didn't realize we were so close to deadline already.

I feel like we have different definitions of close to deadline.

Agreed. 5 days is a lot of time, and it feels like Hana is throwing in the towel for today and is just voting the wagon with the most smoke.

Hana, do you feel strongly about Thes being scum? I feel like you haven't made even a half hearted push on anyone yet and yet you're resigning yourself to a thes lynch because....

I usually rather have someone by L-1 before 4 days left, in case of stuff that happens.

[Sakura Hana]

it avoids deadline scrambling.

[Sakura Hana]

it avoids deadline scrambling.

it also avoids killing scum and properly using valuable time.

nah deadline scrambling avoids killing scum.

[Sakura Hana]

Hana do you feel that way too?

Yes, although you wouldn't be the only one.
In fact im more weirded out by not being globally scumread by now.

[Sakura Hana]

Hana do you feel that way too?

Yes, although you wouldn't be the only one.
In fact im more weirded out by not being globally scumread by now.

So you think people should be scum reading you?

I think im scumread everytime i roll town unless there's people i've played with before.

[Sakura Hana]

So Drew thinks Gob and Thesp is SvS
and Gob thinks Drew and Thesp is SvS

Yet you both are voting each other.

[Sakura Hana]

It seems like you are waiting for Thesp’s flip to drag me down with him. I would wager that if Thesp flips scum or if you flip scum, the other will flip scum accordingly.

Then what does this mean

[Sakura Hana]

I mean doesnt that imply you think they are both scum or am i missing something.

[Sakura Hana]

I mean doesnt that imply you think they are both scum or am i missing something.

Of course not.
It's just forming associative reads - saying that if one is scum then the other probably is doesn't necessarily mean you think they're scum.

Yeah but he said it both ways.

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You know. Drew's making good points.

[Sakura Hana]

You know. Drew's making good points.

As opposed to you, perhaps.
Could you give us your viewpoint on Thespio, and on the Turkey.

I think the way gob is making reads comes from someone with inside information.
Thespio compromise on an useless slot.

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Oh also spangled, I dont think i make good points, I just read people.

[Sakura Hana]

Oh also spangled, I dont think i make good points, I just read people.

Fair enough.
Sorry for that, though — it was an unnecessarily insulting way to make a point.

It's not insulting is saying the truth.
Im not sure if I mentioned this already I probably did, but im pretty bad at explaining things.

[Sakura Hana]

Also eh, i may have been wrong on gob.

[Sakura Hana]

Thespio is just misrepresenting everything.

[Sakura Hana]

Do you have a feel for the whole list yet?

Not really?
Idk i havent been counting.

[Sakura Hana]

Sky's elastic right? probably town.
Gamma is Idk
Drew's probably town.
Pers is Idk.

[Sakura Hana]

Not really.

[Sakura Hana]

I do think Gob's town now, but that doesnt make me scumread Drew.

[Sakura Hana]

Not really.

Do you think that Drew is focusing on you and Pers?

Doesnt give me that impression?
Maybe Pers, but dont think he's focused on me?

[Sakura Hana]

Casing someone doesnt mean they are scum
(And tbh i tend to gloss over wallposts like that).

[Sakura Hana]

Or did i misunderstand your question?

[Sakura Hana]

I don't really understand what you want from me. But it seems like we both play the game in different ways.

[Sakura Hana]

I mean, you have Me, Jb, Sky and Gob as town to you.

I sring Drew, Sky is sring Drew and Gob is sring Drew.

Are all of your townreads wrong on Drew?

Wouldn't be the first time.
But i probably don't care enough at this point.

[Sakura Hana]

^
This guy gets it.

[Sakura Hana]

Thats a lot of bumps

[Sakura Hana]

I was actually referring to both posts not just that one.

[Sakura Hana]

Nice to see that people are starting to see the things i was seeing.

[Sakura Hana]

If Thes flips town I will be looking at Hana.

Go ahead and look at me all you want.
Although i think he'll be flipping scum anyhow.

[Sakura Hana]

So thespio, were you town or scum.

[Sakura Hana]

So thespio, were you town or scum.

Do you ask that honestly expecting an answer?

You never know, at least he could give some final reads or something, but considering how absent he is and all he does is misrep i doubt it.

[Sakura Hana]

dammit the mod screwed over the fake hammer.

[Sakura Hana]

excitement

[Sakura Hana]

A bit late

[Sakura Hana]

But it's ok im 80% sure this flips scum.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Fish

[Sakura Hana]

@Mod: You have my name wrong in the VC again

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Fish

Why

Secret reasons maybe?

[Sakura Hana]

Note:

Doctor drew sheeps without asking why, or is possible he saw my second post and didnt bother asking

[Sakura Hana]

Naked votes are tunnels now apparently

xD

[Sakura Hana]

probably 2 scum on wagon and one scum off wagon?

i'd need to reread more before i could swing onto FF but he was on-wagon so

?

[Sakura Hana]

I have super secret reasons to trust Sakura

wow thx

[Sakura Hana]

Note:

Skygazer chose to ignore the secret reasons in favor of his townread of FF

[Sakura Hana]

Note:

Drew found it easy to jump into the wagon and is now trying to find a reason to unvote

[Sakura Hana]

Dont mind my note monologue, i was derp and dont have a separate notepad for the game so i rather just find them in my ISO.

[Sakura Hana]

Note:

Drew's doubts get erased as soon as fish votes him

[Sakura Hana]

I can talk normally too.

[Sakura Hana]

I think right now you got bigger things to worry about.

[Sakura Hana]

But it doesnt hurt to answer i guess, my opinion is that it's probably a hard bus.

[Sakura Hana]

A townie would've been less happy to sheep me specially since my vote was a 180, if he knows you're scum and knows what im talking about then they know you're caught and would hard bus in a heart beat.
imo.

[Sakura Hana]

on that note at least GE asked why, drew just jumped in.
That's the difference.

[Sakura Hana]

Ok since im going to sleep soon and i dont want a QL to happen, I take back the guilty on FF.
VOTE: Drew
But now that's out of the way i wanted to ask you what was this about:

If Thes flips town I will be looking at Hana.

[Sakura Hana]

So you think that's why implosion died?

[Sakura Hana]

Desperado.

Well you're pretty different from your brother at least.
He always SRs me.

[Sakura Hana]

In my experience ICs dont necessarily die N1, they do die at some point since scum needs to remove confirmed town anyway.
After thesp flipped town, your post sounded like TMIsh or like setting me up, that's why i went after you.

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He’s describing the fact that Sakura is full of crap because she did it actually go anywhere last night.

Of course i didnt go anywhere last night, my role doesnt have night actions.
I was faking a guilty for reactions, but retracted it before people actually ended up lynching Fish because of it.

[Sakura Hana]

I take back the guilty on FF.

[Sakura Hana]

A) Why did you choose Former

After thesp flipped town, your post sounded like TMIsh or like setting me up, that's why i went after you.

You know you'd find most answers if you read my ISO.

B) why did your vote change to Drew?

Didn't like his participation in the whole affair

[Sakura Hana]

To be more accurate, this post would've need to be typed in 15 seconds (i got timestamps up to seconds):

Oh man, nvm.....fish vote is good.

Which im pretty sure it's possible?

But Why does it matter whether you responded to the post or the vote? Doesn't make it any better.

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura has a weird playstyle, I think

I hear that a lot

[Sakura Hana]

Do you still believe this Sakura?

No i dont.

[Sakura Hana]

I have some time, if anyone wants to talk to me.

[Sakura Hana]

No one? k

[Sakura Hana]

the point you erased from existence by proving there was no way someone with a 6.5×52mm Italian Carcano M91/38 bolt-action rifle could take 3 shots in under 7 seconds and be on target from a book depository down the road at 600 yards?

Unless you are my dead grandpa anyone could have seen the pedit and erased what they had written and then wrote, nvm fish scum lulz.

This gave me a good laugh when i read it.
Also sorry, i was already gone when you asked to talk with me and now i need to sleep

[Sakura Hana]

Here let me help you.
Read Start of Day 2 until 1033

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura not doing much since her 'catching scum' gambit.

More importantly what do you think of Fish's reactions to the fake guilty.
What do you think of the people's reactions to the entire thing.
What do you make of GE's secret reasons to trust me.
What do you make of Sky's "ill trust my TR over the secret reasons".

I don't see you scumhunting, I see you only see fish (and persivul i guess).
So, are you?

[Sakura Hana]

Hey you showed back up!

Well yes i already finished the work i was doing "as per what was in my signature" so I have more time to play mafia.

[Sakura Hana]

I think it was pretty clear that Fish's reaction to the fake guilty is what took any doubt out of my mind he is scum.

Really? I had the opposite impression.

[Sakura Hana]

But regardless, his reactions should be classified as NAI, since unless he's a newbie, scum will just argue the result "is impossible" while town will know it is, the more important factor is the way people react to it.

[Sakura Hana]

I want you to walk me through your entire thought process throughout the entire thing, including you having doubts and them being erased, with reasons.
If you're town and have a genuine thought process this shouldn't be much of a problem.

[Sakura Hana]

I doubted myself a bit about your intention and wanted to get Fish to give me more evidence that you were lying(and to clarify, that you were lying scum) and I should trust him over you.

Why would you think that if i was lying = i was scum and not = i was reaction testing / gambiting. Specially if you had such a large SR on him at that point as you say, it doesn't make sense to think that scum me is faking a result to get him lynched, much less considering it would've been a 180 from my previous read on him on D1.

Also, was your signature something different before?

Yeah i had a message saying "Currently busy with work IRL"

[Sakura Hana]

Like that's still the part that i dont get... your "doubts" dont match your scumread on him.

[Sakura Hana]

Post Edit: And maybe I am an idiot(or just drunk lol), but what do mean my doubts don't match my scum read?

it means i dont believe you had any "doubts" if you had such a strong SR on him.
It looked more like you were looking for excuses to townread him.

It feels to me like either you're both partners or you're not actually reading him in an honest way, it feels fabricated.
My play being "odd" is no excuse since I had already stated I was taking notes in-thread.

On an unrelated note,

I have caught a cold and so my activity will be lessened.

Noted.
-Kor

[Sakura Hana]

Speaking of Rick, all he's done so far is say that he reckons he'd catch up, but wont necessarily do it, and argue with fish semantics, and saying he'll do something, but not do anything in the end.

[Sakura Hana]

My vote was on the last post of the page, the secret reasons post was on the next one, it's entirely possible you just saw my post after i had already posted and quoted it and voted. Since my post was already made when you started typing it you wouldn't see a preview edit (Although you could've seen it in the posts that appear at the bottom of the typing post unless you use quick reply).

[Sakura Hana]

I voted Fish right after you did as a quick sheep of my scum read.

And my 180 and vote didnt give you pause?

[Sakura Hana]

Speaking of Rick, all he's done so far is say that he reckons he'd catch up, but wont necessarily do it, and argue with fish semantics, and saying he'll do something, but not do anything in the end.

I feel I’ve done a bit more than this, however on the top layer of things, I see what this is like. This is probably coming from town.

Ah yeah you also gave a read on persivul.
I dont recall if that had happened when i made that post tho?

[Sakura Hana]

What even is "political reads"
Serious question, idk.

[Sakura Hana]

I think this Rick person is town.

[Sakura Hana]

Well, to be fair, you did tell him that you suspected his predecesor tho

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The scum read on a claimed tracker?

Wait, wtf is this? Who claimed tracker?

Chemist

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He said he was 1S Tracker and saw me visit no one last night.

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I am curious, have i played with your main before?

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I mean, i dont mind, i like imagining his posts with a cowboy style voice.

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Fuck it
Someone sum up the last 7 pages for me

rick town.
rick scumreads gob.
drew keeps self focused.

So basically not much really.

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rick town.

Talk about this pls

I mean, just read his ISO. If not then read the post Fish quoted earlier that he called "Good post".

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I feel like a lot of the stuff he's saying makes more sense coming from a town mindset.
It's hard to explain.

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Guess Gamma went from probably town to "not probably town"? xD

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OH WAIT i misread a post, WOOPS

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Yeah, but the post i thought was by rick was by gob, when he said "Gamma probably town" idk why i thought spangled was quoting Rick.

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A tidbit from a tv cowboy, I think Fish, Sakura, and Rick Dalton’s the most dangerous townblock this side of the Mississippi.

Also, why isnt Spangled in this townbloc?
Or are you just referring to us 3 being dangerous?

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I mean yes, i was checking his list to see if he had a 4 person townbloc, and that's when I realized he wasnt in the post, so I got curious what that meant.

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It’s gobble, James, and Persivul

Ah yes, you probably wouldn't know since you never caught up, but James entered the game with a "I'm not gonna participate in RVS" mindset, drew a lot of attention to himself, to get us out of RVS (or that's how i interpret it anyway?), pretty similar to what you did here, i think.

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Drew, Gob

Then the last one is Gamma, Persivul, or Brafin.

Skygazer’s entrance just gut pings me as town.

Why me, exactly?

Anyone know what goes with "why me?"

i dunno, something about a frying pan.
Oh yeah fry me.

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I went back and realized he copy and pastes the toxicity thing and the random question thing in all of his games.

This is important info methinks.
Which means the thing i thought was towny may actually be NAI

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I think that's L-1

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I mean that one fooled me too.
But i knew you were L-2 last VC so i thought it was L-1

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While we are here, I don't really buy scum James.....do you, Sakura?

I went back and realized he copy and pastes the toxicity thing and the random question thing in all of his games.

This is important info methinks.
Which means the thing i thought was towny may actually be NAI

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following thespio’s mislynch, do you still believe this?

Yes. Actually.
It's not something that has to be different game by game, but what does change game by game is how people perceive the votes and reactions.

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It seems uncharacteristic of Rick given how aggressive he is about me.

Aggresive?...

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Have you been reading?

Yes, but i didnt get that impression.

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lol those reads.

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Seems like the "people you could see yourself voting" and "scum is in here" is people that scumread you or is voting you.

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Ah! you dont have GE in there, in fact you dont have him anywhere either lol

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And Sakura, somewhat correct I guess. Except as I just said I am not scum reading you.....

?
I didnt say you did.
I made an observtion on your reads list.

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that post felt like you were trying to not anger me more than anything.

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Regardless as i said, the people in your "i would vote" and "scum reads" are still all the people voting you or with a scumread on you, sans GE, which apparently from that post he's dead null so he'd go to "i would vote" anyway?

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VOTE: gob

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Another naked vote just to make spangled ask again

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Another naked vote just to make spangled ask again

And do you actually have a reason for voting, or...?

Sheeping rick mostly.

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General question to everyone, is this par for the course in regards to Sakura's playstyle?

What do you want to know.

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Well yeah? I probably do have an unique playstyle, but im not sure how i'd describe it.

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Well regardless of what you think, Drew self resolves.

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that was p gross of you to point out but w/e

i don't like drew's reaction, feels forced; reminds me of when i got fakehammered as scum and i forced an "oh no!" type reaction in psyches miller game

This thinking of automatically suspecting someone when they realize they were fakehammered is shitty af

Tbf, competent scum players will still pretend to be town after being hammered.

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How does Drew self resolve?

He claimed doc, scum wont leave a doc alive for long if at all.

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Oh i like activity graphs! Do me! Do me!

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1639 Makes me happy with my vote.

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Oh! I got a vote, that's cute.

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So you dont like me sheeping rick?

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So you disagree with this post then:

I never said “no, I’m not gonna catch up.”

I am actively garnering reads from people’s reaction to me stating essentially “i will eventually catch up”.

Everyone else blew it out of proportion and I garnered a lot of reactions and a lot of statements and plays happened because of it.

I flat out

created

a scenario where we get a whole new event happening in this game and thrust myself directly into the game because of this.

Now, I am the focus of a happening in this game, that multiple people have commented on.

You’re reads, however, are incredibly political. You’re pushing it like I’ve been a dick about anything, when i’m merely playing the game. I have said nothing mean to anyone. I got specific in jest with Fishy boy, but that’s more gentle teasing than anything, whilst still getting reactions and opinions. I’ll let you know Fishy actually went up a tier on my list.

You’re pushing it like I’m playing like some despicable player who just isn’t going to play the game when that is incredibly far from the truth, and obviously so once you look at it past the surface level.

I have every intention to hard solve this game.

VOTE: Gobble

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Why should i, sort gob, when someone, has done this, and i agree with it.

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Not to mention 1639 is gob disproving his own points every time he quotes you to make a new one.
Hence my comment.

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But yeah keep pushing this "You arent sorting people" that does wonders.