Grand Idea Mafia

[chennisden]

NO BULLI REROLLER:

any no bulli roles are rerolled, including this one

[chennisden]

there's fun bastard like jester

and unfun bastard like death miller, unsane cop, w/e

[Korina]

Mafia Goon

If we're arguing technicalities here, the death miller isn't even an actual death miller by definition. Death Millers flip Mafia Goon upon death. The death miller I posted flips Death Miller upon death.

[Korina]

Serial Killer

there's fun bastard like jester

and unfun bastard like death miller, unsane cop, w/e

Since when is Jester bastard? That's one of the least bastard roles IMO. The entire point of jester is to play scummily, so you get lynched. If you suspect someone of being a jester, you ignore them. That's not really bastard.

[Gamma Emerald]

Mafia Peculiar Godfather

This role appears as town to unusual ability that determine alignment (Parity Cop and Census Taker e.g.) and nothing else

to contrast, Cop, Weak modifier, and Loyal/Disloyal modifiers count as usual abilities.

I'd love to see a no-vanilla/named townie Grander/Grandest Idea game

[Korina]

Werewolf

Personally, I feel like Insane isn't really that bastard either. It's bastard if it's impossible to confirm if you're actually sane or insane, but if you can confirm your sanity, it's not bastard IMO. Which, with Cop is generally pretty easy. Check someone N1, have them flip later. If they're mafia, and you got back town, you know you're insane.

Honestly, if that was allowed in Normal Queue, I'd honestly design a setup around a sane cop and an insane cop, where both are told they're just a cop.

Naïve, Paranoid and Random I would absolutely argue is bastard though, since it makes the role basically a named visitor.

[Korina]

VT

I may actually attempt to design a small-scale setup around that, and test it on my discord mafia group.

[chennisden]

Serial Killer

there's fun bastard like jester

and unfun bastard like death miller, unsane cop, w/e

Since when is Jester bastard? That's one of the least bastard roles IMO. The entire point of jester is to play scummily, so you get lynched. If you suspect someone of being a jester, you ignore them. That's not really bastard.

jester is bastard

[chennisden]

lynching people who push town's wincon backwards is supposed to be good.

[TemporalLich]

Role Reroller (reroll for alignment)

Each night, you may target a player. That player's role but not alignment will be rerolled.

Reroll to determine this role's alignment.

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there's fun bastard like jester

and unfun bastard like death miller, unsane cop, w/e

Jester isn't bastard, just chaotic.

[chennisden]

i wouldn't sign up for a game that

may have

a jester or insane, or w/e and expect it to be a real game.

i mean, i occasionally do it for the laughs or because i don't really want to play an actual game. but they're unenjoyable in large doses from my experience.

[Gamma Emerald]

Town Agenda-Cop

You may investigate a player each night to learn if they have a player other than themselves they must control the death of in order to win (Lyncher and Unlyncher).

Jester is bastard when it endgames upon victory. That's p much what the wiki says and I agree with that stance.

[TemporalLich]

Starfruit Alien

Named Alien

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Jester is bastard when it endgames upon victory. That's p much what the wiki says and I agree with that stance.

Show Stopper Jester is bastard imo for introducing a secret lose condition (don't let the Show Stopper Jester get eliminated).

I'm going to say if you actually include a Show Stopper Jester in one of your games, you, the mod, are a Jester.

[chennisden]

TOWN BASTARD REROLLER: no bastard roles mkay

jester is always bastard

[Korina]

vt

TOWN BASTARD REROLLER: no bastard roles mkay

jester is always bastard

There goes quite literally over half the thread then, I'd suppose.

[Gamma Emerald]

Town Dragonfruit Vendor

You may give a dragonfruit to a player each night. Thry may consume it a following night, though it will have no effect. The recipient will be told they "received a dragonfruit".

TOWN BASTARD REROLLER: no bastard roles mkay

jester is always bastard

You're a wimp if you think jester is always bastard. Sorry not sorry.

[Gamma Emerald]

Town Dragon Fruit Vendor

You may give a Dragon Fruit to a player each night. Thry may consume it a following night, which will make them a bulletproof vigilante up through the conclusion of the following night phase (they may not shoot the night they consume it, only the night before they revert to normal). The recipient will be told they "received a dragonfruit".

[Something_Smart]

Town Dragon Fruit Vendor

You may give a Dragon Fruit to a player each night. They may consume it a following night, which will make them a hated doublevoter for the following day. Neither of these conditions will be publicly shown in the votecount, and they will also not go away if it's LYLO or MYLO. The recipient will be told they "received a dragonfruit."

[Something_Smart]

Mafia Dragon Fruit Vendor

You may give a Dragon Fruit to a player each night. They may consume it a following night. Any actions they take during the night they consume it will be Weak (causing the player to die if the action successfully resolves on any non-town player). The recipient will be told they "received a dragonfruit."

[chennisden]

LYNCHPROOF JESTER

Town Dragonfruit Vendor

You may give a dragonfruit to a player each night. Thry may consume it a following night, though it will have no effect. The recipient will be told they "received a dragonfruit".

TOWN BASTARD REROLLER: no bastard roles mkay

jester is always bastard

You're a wimp if you think jester is always bastard. Sorry not sorry.

jester is always bastard

sorry not sorry

[chennisden]

uh

LYNCH PROOF BULLET PROOF SURVIVOR

[Something_Smart]

Town Night 10 Cop

On Night 10, you may target a player to learn whether they are aligned with the town.

[chennisden]

Compulsive Town triple vig

Kill three people each night

[Something_Smart]

Town Binary Enabler

While you are alive, days and nights will be counted in binary (1, 10, 11, 100...) instead of base 10. If you die, the current phase number is re-interpreted as base 10 (for instance, if you are lynched on Day 3 which is called Day 11, the next day will be Day 12).

[Something_Smart]

Town Night 10 Bulletproof Vigilante

On Night 10, any kill attempts against you will fail, and you may attempt to kill a player.