Open 762: CK9++ [Over!]

[Korina]

VOTE COUNT 1.7

Phillammon (3):

Sakura Hara, Chemist1422, Gamma Emerald

James Brafin (1):

Persivul

Gamma Emerald (1):

Jackal711

Chemist1422 (1):

implosion

implosion (1):

Dry-fit

Sakura Hara (1):

Phillammon

Persivul (1):

Doctor Drew

Dry-fit (1):

James Brafin

Jackal711 (0):

Doctor Drew (0):

Spangled (0):

Thespio (0):

Arcfield (0):

No-Lynch (0):

Not Voting (3):

Spangled, Thespio, Arcfield
With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

(expired on 2019-07-31 21:10:00) remain in the day.

Mod Notes

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[James Brafin]

meh, I like being an ass to get people to slip up, but because you are a fan of Nebraska ill do my best not be too much of an ass

How does this come from town mindset?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why must it come from a scum mindset?

[James Brafin]

Didn't say it did. I'm asking a question. Is there any way that it comes from a town mindset? How is this a town-aligned way to approach the game?

[Doctor Drew]

Didn't say it did. I'm asking a question. Is there any way that it comes from a town mindset? How is this a town-aligned way to approach the game?

I agree with you, and as I think about it I dislike 151 more and more.

But, if it isn't town aligned it's.....

[Doctor Drew]

Why must it come from a scum mindset?

Maybe I am thinking of my own meta, but I am way more likely to as town to scum slip vs being scum and scum slip. Imo, getting people angry just mislynches town.

[Phillammon]

Drew, what do you feel is off with 151?

I mean, not that I'm objecting.

[Doctor Drew]

And to clarify, I feel like it happens in most games.

[Doctor Drew]

Drew, what do you feel is off with 151?

I mean, not that I'm objecting.

I disliked it initially for laziness and feigning interaction and I wanted of an explanation which I never got(did notice he is close to a prod though, maybe he is busy or something).

But, pers brings up a great point in 214 which really gets me thinking. That coupled with the hole being an ass thing.

I hope he comes back, none of this really gets sorted out with a replacement.

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, hole....ass.....oops all Freudian slip.

*whole

[Gamma Emerald]

Didn't say it did. I'm asking a question. Is there any way that it comes from a town mindset? How is this a town-aligned way to approach the game?

I don't understand why evidence has to be presented to indicate such things. Right now if you want to call that approach scummy then the burden if proof is on you. Because Drew is right: if you want to assert it isn't a town mindset you must assert it is a scum mindset, there is no other option.

[James Brafin]

Didn't say it did. I'm asking a question. Is there any way that it comes from a town mindset? How is this a town-aligned way to approach the game?

I don't understand why evidence has to be presented to indicate such things. Right now if you want to call that approach scummy then the burden if proof is on you. Because Drew is right: if you want to assert it isn't a town mindset you must assert it is a scum mindset, there is no other option.

Fair enough.
I guess the way I see it, town is't looking to make other players slip up. Town is looking to see if scum slips up. conversely, scum wants to get another player to slip up so they can then argue for scum!player.
Basically, town observes it and scum instigates it.

[Sakura Hana]

I feel like you guys are too scared to do this
VOTE: Thespio

[Doctor Drew]

I feel like you guys are too scared to do this
VOTE: Thespio

I would prefer to wait for his response/potential replacement to respond.

[Sakura Hana]

Don't think his response would change my mind / replacement shares the same alignment.
I dont expect a potential scum Thespio to tell the truth regarding of what happened there.
I do expect however a potential town Thespio to town it up.

[Sakura Hana]

Specially via applied pressure, people's alignments become more obvious.

[Sakura Hana]

But I feel like the game's going in circles with everyone talking about HOW BAD that post was, but no one wants to vote there.

[implosion]

VOTE: thespio

Moving out today so limited energy.

[Jackal711]

Quick post while I have a chance:

UNVOTE: Gamma

That was RVS, and I currently believe he's town.

VOTE: Thespio Entry into the game seemed super odd and I don't like the tone of his posts so far. And we've already discussed 151

[Chemist1422]

I don't think Thespio's ISO justifies this flash wagon

It's not good but nothing worse than nullscum on their last post

[Spangled]

I don't think Thespio's ISO justifies this flash wagon

It's not good but nothing worse than nullscum on their last post

+1 on this.
I like how everyone has ignored me so far.

[Spangled]

Didn't say it did. I'm asking a question. Is there any way that it comes from a town mindset? How is this a town-aligned way to approach the game?

I don't understand why evidence has to be presented to indicate such things. Right now if you want to call that approach scummy then the burden if proof is on you. Because Drew is right: if you want to assert it isn't a town mindset you must assert it is a scum mindset, there is no other option.

Fair enough.
I guess the way I see it, town is't looking to make other players slip up. Town is looking to see if scum slips up. conversely, scum wants to get another player to slip up so they can then argue for scum!player.
Basically, town observes it and scum instigates it.

I think town should pressure people to reveal their worldview and how it's applied to the game, though; scum have a drastically different view to the game than town but they won't show that unless you make them.

[James Brafin]

I don't think Thespio's ISO justifies this flash wagon

It's not good but nothing worse than nullscum on their last post

I agree with this. He’s not provided enough sortable content to say with great confidence he’s scum.

Didn't say it did. I'm asking a question. Is there any way that it comes from a town mindset? How is this a town-aligned way to approach the game?

I don't understand why evidence has to be presented to indicate such things. Right now if you want to call that approach scummy then the burden if proof is on you. Because Drew is right: if you want to assert it isn't a town mindset you must assert it is a scum mindset, there is no other option.

Fair enough.
I guess the way I see it, town is't looking to make other players slip up. Town is looking to see if scum slips up. conversely, scum wants to get another player to slip up so they can then argue for scum!player.
Basically, town observes it and scum instigates it.

I think town should pressure people to reveal their worldview and how it's applied to the game, though; scum have a drastically different view to the game than town but they won't show that unless you make them.

While I can agree with that, the way it was phrased indicated that he was trying to make others slip up rather than trying to understand how and why people are acting the way they are. That’s the concerning bit.

[Sakura Hana]

"flash wagon this" "flash wagon that"
what is a "flash" wagon.
Wagon speed is not indicative of anything.
Besides there's only 3 votes, that hardly means a "flash" wagon. But i do think more votes would be nice.

[Gamma Emerald]

Can anyone actually articulate what is wrong with 151