the thread title sucked the whole game

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VOTE: Alacrity

quality wagon, good work plastic.

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i only let town into my friendbloc.

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@gamma, great GTKAS advertisement choice in your sig.

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are u town duck?

yeeaahhhh

is ico town?

usually, why did you ask me about ico?

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what makes you say so? genuinely curious.

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@gamma, great GTKAS advertisement choice in your sig.

Yeah I wanted to do a trade but it kinda failed, oops (nothing against Krazy). If you want to take mine up go ahead

nah advertise Krazy, he's great

because we promised that we would form a friendblocc no matter what alignment

and town doesnt make promises they cantt keep, do they?

i didn't consent to this but we're all friends in schat/in spirit

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i'm unpocketable. gotta slay you guys when you're teh scums.

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what do you think of GEmerald so far?

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mhm it's standard on ms
maj lynch is always a thing tho so taking the full 14 days is entirely optional

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the strategy is knowing when to let the thread breathe / when to let other people generate productive content together imo

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not much, but the whole "nothing against Krazy" feels slightly off to me.

elaborate on this for me?

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not much, but the whole "nothing against Krazy" feels slightly off to me.

elaborate on this for me?

its like clarification no one asked for, or just like preemptively answering questions (like answering unasked questions)

idk how to really word it properly

i was a little pinged by gamma's self-aware tone there as well.
VOTE: Gamma Emerald

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FL is a lot more creative than me, but that does sound like something I'd do as scum.

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ah I read a bit of that game, right

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don't worry, we can make up for it by lynching scum d1 here.

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what for?

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iconeum you're town AGAIN???

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iconeum you're town AGAIN???

are you stalking me?

mmmm don't turn around

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ugh let's not i'm trying to enjoy mafia

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I'm sure I've managed it at least once before??

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lmfao. okay you're right. that was great

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What would you say are your strengths when interrogating someone, Garmr?

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entertain me pls self meta is my jam

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it's not that strange.
Garmr's response may or may not be useful

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snooooore

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don't u snore at me young man

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Ico u shld vote

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Golduck is actually my fav competitive* Pokemon

* not that competitive but I still love it

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Why are you voting town Fireb?

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valid
carry on

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maybe. I'm certainly not voting someone who's transparently town.

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Ico u shld vote

any suggestion?

where are your reads at so far?

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Gamma, Garmr, Alacrity

Talk to me about Elastic?

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Let's explore #32. emps' opening pinged you because he's layin on the buddy-buddy a bit too strong. do you think it's reasonable Elastic read it as hard t/t?

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how is iconeum obv town? I am not seeing it?

iconeume do u think ur obv town rn?

i don't really care if i'm being obv town read here

Firebringer, are you interested in finding town this game?

mmm sorry to butt in but that's not what he asked

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Let's explore #32. emps' opening pinged you because he's layin on the buddy-buddy a bit too strong. do you think it's reasonable Elastic read it as hard t/t?

I think it's

unreasonable

for scum!elastic to t/t it

unless one of emps/duck is elastic buddy

but Elastic tone feels genuine to me

hm I guess I'm more wondering why you found (from your towny solvey mindset) that emps was too buddy-buddy, but then saw someone else come to the opposing conclusion very quickly and assumed that was a town indicative conclusion as well.

let's say you're scum and see town me/town emps having that conversation; what would you pop in with?

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Ico
tw/elastic
emps/garmr
fireb = null =
alacrity


yet to post:
Arcfield
tn5421
Gamma Emerald
osuka
bob3141

would this be a fair synopsis of your reads ico? checking strength on elastic and Garmr mostly

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did I ever tell you I saw a user with your exact avi one time? damned if I can remember their username

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Ico
tw/elastic
emps/garmr
fireb = null =
alacrity


yet to post:
Arcfield
tn5421
Gamma Emerald
osuka
bob3141

would this be a fair synopsis of your reads ico? checking strength on elastic and Garmr mostly

I think it's very early to make a list like this, but yes that's pretty much where i'm at rn

VOTE: Alacrity
scumtell is OP

Mini Normal 2066: Cat Loaves
(town)

Good morning! I look forward to playing with all of you today. =)

VOTE: insomnia

micro 858: silver 3
(town)

Subject: micro 858: silver 3 (ended game)

Good morning everyone! =)

I will be reading shortly!

mini theme 2078: any non-dead person can post in this mafia game
(drive-by shitpost)

Hello everybody! Alacrity is here! =)

scumtells sucks.

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I mean it's a sub-rand holistic meta tell so it's not designed to be right. I haven't studied Loopdanism at great length but I understand he and others use it largely ae a policy push to get the game moving rather than earnestly alignment indicative?

it's also fairly easy to counter via individual meta so I'd say ingame content is substantially more valuable than a sub-rand holistic meta tell against a player whose meta is a walking contradiction to the meta tell

I digress

if you weren't so clearly townie I'd think you were very suspicious mr. dragon. back to firebaby's question, do you see why I townread you?

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there is madness in my method, dear firepuppy

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Newbie greeting tell
People who don't know how to initiate greet the thread with "hi" as scum because they don't know how to analyse content

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Gamma what's your read on Ico?

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Newbie greeting tell
People who don't know how to initiate greet the thread with "hi" as scum because they don't know how to analyse content

hi worstie!

I don't know what i am doing. Tell me what to say here

"woof"?

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Alacrity, tell me what you think of my alignment now you've caught up?

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Gamma what's your read on Ico?

Town but the day is young
Also I'm with fire in that I want to shitpost but I also intend to solve the game while doing it

Why town?
Also same.

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Alacrity, tell me what you think of my alignment now you've caught up?

You are my top scumread! =(

Why aren't you voting me?
Talk through what you're seeing.

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I mean it's a sub-rand holistic meta tell so it's not designed to be right. I haven't studied Loopdanism at great length but I understand he and others use it largely ae a policy push to get the game moving rather than earnestly alignment indicative?

it's also fairly easy to counter via individual meta so I'd say ingame content is substantially more valuable than a sub-rand holistic meta tell against a player whose meta is a walking contradiction to the meta tell

I digress

if you weren't so clearly townie I'd think you were very suspicious mr. dragon. back to firebaby's question, do you see why I townread you?

^^^ Ico ^^^

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obligatory: emps has no onsite scum meta and Site Chat Certified™ enjoys playing scum so ymmv

also think he's town tho

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if you weren't so clearly townie I'd think you were very suspicious mr. dragon. back to firebaby's question, do you see why I townread you?

because i'm playing a game of whac'a'mole is my best guess

point me to a couple of your posts you think prompted my townread? super curious

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I'm noticing that your posting looks very forced, the worst! Your tone is exaggerated in a way that feels like you're trying to hyperpost for the sake of hyperposting, rathering than because you're very engaged. =(

I've noticed similar impressions in your scumgames that don't appear as readily in your town games!

...you sure you can get my alignment right off tone?
I'm going to trust you to read what I'm posting, later.

I might be ready to call it a night somewhere around

{tw}
{fireb, emps}
{ico, garmr???}
{alacrity, maybeconeum}
{Arc, tn, osuka, bob}
{gemmy, elastic}

hottest take iconeum is posting the way he does as town but reads poorly with both elastic and gemmy

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Gemmy posting the way he does as scum and he's dropped a couple of small unexciting tells. Elastic I agree reads too stiff.

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road map to victory lynch Bob d1 lynch Bob's scumreads for the rest of the game

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Alacrity when was the last game of mine you read?

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I'm not the kind of person the average process works on. I am completely broken. If you're bored I'd be interested to see how you read my ISO in Psyche's Liars and Millers.

@Garmr, that's valid. I can talk a bit more to why I'm reading you as uncertainly maybe town perhaps possibly but it's probs not very exciting.

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step 1: click here
step 2: read & enjoy

(too early for me to get too spicy on my read on you; if you're town just do ur thing and I'll get you right. let's solve the game together!)

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He's posting the way he posts as town (He Smells Like Town) but he is townreading one slot I'm scumreading for sketchy reasons which he can't follow through on, can't form a read on you/acknowledge the read emps and I talked abt on you, and he doesn't know why I'm really townreading him but was happy to take it in his stride

these are all kinda pingy, but he's sssslightly above null line on posting energy but the more I'm thinking about it the less comfortable i feel having him as nulltown frrhhhh

he also has no scumreads on active slots => no intuition to pressure a quiet slot, deferring to an holistic meta tell on someone who's personal meta proves them as exception from the holistic tell in like, 5 minutes' work

he's not interested in pressuring slots/finding scum/advancing gamestate etc. and it feels like he's posting to make people feel relaxed (townreading too many active slots)

idk lots of little things make me uncomfortable about ico so far

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I spent half of my time itt earlier tryna go a level deeper with Ico and didn't really feel like he was meeting me half way which isn't like...wildly alignment indicative but is frustrating to sort through. I'm wary that Ico is in my tunnel blindspot, in a way which I don't think you/Elastic are

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That's fair and bring up a lot of smaller things I haven't been looking for

do you have him as town? I don't need a countercase necessarily, just curious to see where you're at.

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I'm not the kind of person the average process works on. I am completely broken. If you're bored I'd be interested to see how you read my ISO in Psyche's Liars and Millers.

@Garmr, that's valid. I can talk a bit more to why I'm reading you as uncertainly maybe town perhaps possibly but it's probs not very exciting.

Hmm sure go for it. But I'm more interested in your read on fire bringer.

sry I accidentally ignored this

Fireb townread comes parallel to wavering Iconeum read
it's pretty weird seeing fireb #seriousposting this earlier and he switched into it around the same time I started getting really weird vibes from Ico's posts which makes me think he's processing the thread with roughly the same level of criticality that I am

his following you onto emps gives me an impression he's playing the field a bit/working on pressuring several to all slots rather than focusing on shading players who are in a weaker position which is pro-sorting/anti-lynching

it's still early af but the stuff I see through the shitposting looks slightly towny

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Alacrity misread on me is probably town indicative
probably not associated with Elastic
trajectory on Iconeum seems fairly good at first glance

+ town contextually but if I didn't have reads on other slots I don't think I'd have a read on her yet : / she's not doing a lot which isn't kinda easy to fake

for posterity the "posting for the sake of posting" thing makes me concerned she didn't really read my iso after like the first coupla dozen posts with emps but I don't think that's explicitly scum indicative

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I have large Brain do many thought thinking.

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sure.

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now I can stop thinking at last.. I'm so at peace

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I thought I was doing fine at being the worst but apparently the jury's out

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What would you say are your strengths when interrogating someone, Garmr?

that's a weird question

+1, the tom might be scum. Rereading through, it feels like he's playing to get townread and not as provocatively as I've seen him as town. There's a lot of fluff-posting and not much substance, as well.

cheeky real name drop smh
prior to my mini cases ln show me what I was posting to be townread?

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I like making avis for MS if you have an idea of what you want.

do you have any other takes, Bob? Garmr townread is particularly easy in your shoes given you've just finished a mason game together (high pocket equity if ya catch my drift)

Also endorse Elastic wagon enthusiastically. I'll join it later most likely.

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that's a null tier, none of you had posted yet

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Location: with my scumpartners

checkmate tho die scum

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pedit: thats a stupid way to format that reads list then

literally isn't, it's exactly where my reads were at
formatting is for chumps

any reads?
just curious why your catchup was entirely self-focused?

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do u have a read on myself emps iconeum or firebringer?

outside top-posters how about Alacrity or Elastic?
anything about Gamma pinging you at all?

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sry gamma ilu you're like my content generation tool

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i've been enjoyin' it yea

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mmk and the other slots mentioned?

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yeeaaa

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do you wanna have a go at why it feels funny or

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i didn't leave the thread
i acknowledged it's a leading question
the way you answer a leading question is alignment indicative
you didn't answer the leading question which is explicitly refusing to produce AI content

do you think i'm...trying to...mislynch/shade gamma by asking you a leading question like less than 24 hours into d1 when gamma's iso is fairly empty...?

i think i'm fairly transparently pressuring him and using his contributions as a metric to integrity-check other players


i also asked you about like half a dozen things and the only thing you commented on was gamma who, indeed, hasn't done much

don't understand where you think i'm scummin' here buddy

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actually you're kind of posturing me it's just coming from such a confusingly nonsensical place that i have no idea if you're doing it on purpose or not

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oh do you mean when i left the thread after

The question feels loaded tho

Wdym by loaded?

It's trying to force a specific interpretation of my posts

..i was gone for an hour bro i'm at work

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same but like the graph of 'how much ass people are putting into this game' is kinda lopsided regardless of alignments
being intense feels kinda weird

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probably fairer to say you didn't engage with the leading subject. you answered the leading question by brushing it aside.
point stands you're still like.. not doing anything AI or discussing anything more interesting than Gamma

if that was a reaction test how would you expect me to have responded as town?

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do u have a read on myself emps iconeum or firebringer?

outside top-posters how about Alacrity or Elastic?
anything about Gamma pinging you at all?

anything about Gamma pinging you at all?

:poutface:

sry gamma ilu you're like my content generation tool

what did you think this was about?

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sadly i'm gonna third that.
VOTE: Elastic Plastic

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sorry, i was softing that i was hamming up your scumminess to generate content

what were you looking for a response to? mind quoting for me?

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i've been waiting for someone to have a more interesting read on you because i think you've started doing AI things

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it already has traction but it's like
alacrity, elastic, osuka
lol

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ah, yes. in that case agreed.

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Elastic wagon comp is like..surprisingly good

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bob, garmr, me

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fire emoji a la discord

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{tw}
{fireb, emps}
{gemmy, garmr, osuka}
{alacrity, bob}
{Arc, tn}
{ico, elastic}

give or take
gna take fireb's advice and spend a bit more time roaming around the hills howling at the moon, less time roaming around the thread howling at the injustice of the world

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if that was a reaction test how would you expect me to have responded as town?

a little more truthfully? you keep bashing the same key, but really if you've read my posts (and i believe that to be the case), you know that i don't really have any reads good enough to be worth discussing. i've said that.

the real tell here imo isn't what you said, but how you reacted and how you've said it

the basis for our conversation was me trying to help you form reads/produce content tho.
you've seen my scumgame once; towngame 0 times. i don't think you've parsed meta. afaict this either 1) isn't a reaction test or 2) doesn't have a functional way to force me to produce meaningful content.

ok whatever congration let's assume i'm teh scumz and i'm evul and i've failed your cunning clever brilliant reaction test
how about commenting on the other stuff i suggested you comment on?

do u have a read on myself emps iconeum or firebringer?

outside top-posters how about Alacrity or Elastic?

anything about Gamma pinging you at all?

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scum post

let's gooo this'll do
how does that post come from a scum mindset fypov?

and I don't see you trying to engage with him to create meaningful content?

THIS is what you choose to scumread?

good take

Scumreading based off of activity and game presence at certain times is a lousy reason

on this basis why did you exit the thread yesterday voteparking alacrity?

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He's posting the way he posts as town (He Smells Like Town) but he is townreading one slot I'm scumreading for sketchy reasons which he can't follow through on, can't form a read on you/acknowledge the read emps and I talked abt on you, and he doesn't know why I'm really townreading him but was happy to take it in his stride

these are all kinda pingy, but he's sssslightly above null line on posting energy but the more I'm thinking about it the less comfortable i feel having him as nulltown frrhhhh

he also has no scumreads on active slots => no intuition to pressure a quiet slot, deferring to an holistic meta tell on someone who's personal meta proves them as exception from the holistic tell in like, 5 minutes' work

he's not interested in pressuring slots/finding scum/advancing gamestate etc. and it feels like he's posting to make people feel relaxed (townreading too many active slots)

idk lots of little things make me uncomfortable about ico so far

I'm not the kind of person the average process works on. I am completely broken. If you're bored I'd be interested to see how you read my ISO in Psyche's Liars and Millers.

@Garmr, that's valid. I can talk a bit more to why I'm reading you as uncertainly maybe town perhaps possibly but it's probs not very exciting.

Hmm sure go for it. But I'm more interested in your read on fire bringer.

sry I accidentally ignored this

Fireb townread comes parallel to wavering Iconeum read
it's pretty weird seeing fireb #seriousposting this earlier and he switched into it around the same time I started getting really weird vibes from Ico's posts which makes me think he's processing the thread with roughly the same level of criticality that I am

his following you onto emps gives me an impression he's playing the field a bit/working on pressuring several to all slots rather than focusing on shading players who are in a weaker position which is pro-sorting/anti-lynching

it's still early af but the stuff I see through the shitposting looks slightly towny

alright osuka given you're struggling to form reads on your own any thoughts on these posts?

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Cheeky

hahah i can already tell you're not Cheeky.

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I don't really feel like I'm explaining this well but the Garmr question is a great example of like a question that I just didn't really understand what you were getting at with; it felt like you were asking it just for the sake of asking a question. Does that make sense?

so at what point is my question to Garmr indicative of me fluffposting rather than applying pressure/getting conversation going/trying to read Garmr?
I get the feeling people think I'm posting to be townread. Why would I think asking Garmr that abstract a question would get me townread?
Why do you jump to the assumption that me asking an abstract question of Garmr (in a sea of posts prompting conversations and sorting players) is because I'm scum, and not because I'm working an angle?
What do you think of the rest of my ISO?

your case on me is one-dimensional. i'm playing in like 1000000 dimensions.

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Duck, are you scumreading Ank?

who?

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elastic is very much not alisae
basically aesila

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oh lmao i haven't main checked
if that's true and ico is town he tried to sort one of the most exp'd players active rn via the newbie greeting tell which cracks me up

uh ID doesn't change my read there, i'm currently faintly null and cognisant of the fact alacrity dropped very minor towntells

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i'm also wary of the fact both ank and krazzy would know those are minor towntells (probably ank more than krazzy) and they are not very sound stances
what alacrity does next might be more alignment indicative i suppose.

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VOTE: Iconeum

Pretend everyone is town Icoy which townie would you vote and why?


Annoyed my nets playing up i can't shit post images.

@Elastic, i think garmr intended to be coy/prompt iconeum into producing alignment indicative content with this question
but in a vacuum his vote pinged somewhat opportunistic

combining those two factors, he tried to coyly interrogate iconeum while voting him which has the subtlety of "WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS, SCUM???"

i was going to meta check him to work out whether completely unsubtle interrogation was alignment indicative, and while i was internally waxing poetic i suppose i just felt like asking him to see if he was aware of it as a tell for himself.

i didn't bother in the end; net of all things i think it's kinda towny and his other posts have been towny

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Spoiler: for Elastic's eyes only, everyone else bugger off

it's ok, i have an ID guess largely by accident but i tend to treat alts like different people anyway so your secret is safe with me

why the unvote?

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i feel like i'm usually >rand at reading you (eventually)
right now the only thing i like for you as town is meta which i /shouldn't/ have so i'm probably just gonna keep tormenting you for a bit if you don't mind

ico, i don't feel strongly about osuka. he's not really doing anything alignment indicative but seems like baller/cognisant of that which is probably 1% more likely to come from town. i'll sort him when he does stuff; if he stays the same i'll just POE him.

i know his posting is kinda...pungent... but do you think it's actually more likely to come from scum?

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please don't out my main.

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i was hoping to get a read out of you by working out how you got the impression i was posting to be townread but i think we're both wary that This Way Lies Tunnelling and it's more gutread than content read so let's get spicy

I am a new user here that happens to be confused!

VOTE: Alacrity

given ID/outedness why did you vote Alacrity to kick off rvs?

pedit: duh, I'm Gamma

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=)

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@tw: Can you talk to me about how Ico shot so low for you?

poor associations with slots i'm not comfortable with
surface level looks like town meta, but when i try to go deeper he's not diving down with me
basically this is the right way for scum!ico to play if he rolls against town!me but it might also be town!ico : /

thinking back to e.g. echo bay grits SEO, he played very intentionally to circumvent my expectations of his scum meta and it kinda stuck with me like "ah! ico is indeed the type of person who would ask himself how to get me to townread him as scum" and so i approach the dragon warily until he strongly towntells

gamestate might be too early for him to earnestly towntell on his own, which is why he's not bottom tier and i'm not interested in wagoning him yet.


i also haven't read his retorts to my small case on him yet; i'll probably need to go through that again when i'm a bit less busy so i can think a bit harder about it

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you should deffo vote someone before you sleep elastic c:

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hmm i did put him in bottom tier. just ignore literally those 3 words; i'm not really interested in wagoning him right now.

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i'm actively wary that i'm probably townreading scum btw

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but it's like
~1

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u suck at my advice worstie

i know......sry

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VOTE: bob

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I'm probs not going to engage with you for a while Alacrity. Curious to see how your reads progress.

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actually Alacrity what baseline do you have for reading me correctly d1? especially given you consider yourself too hard to read accurately day one.

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sry I'm kinda too annoying for that

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uh I don't think it will help much

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as town
she either stopped reading my iso critically or frogot how to read me (again)

as scum
she's working a scumread on me because she has a 0% read accuracy on me early d1 but in that case she can't sit stagnant on the read for two weeks so she's probably forced to go somewhere with it

she's also not handling me in a way which is conducive to valuable interactions so I'm not really inspired to try and go there yet

best move for me is to read her off content rather than interactions and just sort the rest of the game, I'm m a g i c a l and can probably get her alignment via PoE

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i felt ur townread me on was weak to btw. But so is alacrity, who is a newb.

I don't understand this sry

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the strength of my townreads is in pretty heavily flux
I think elastic's "ah oops" moment on me was probably town indicative (in case that wasn't already obvious)

her vote on Bob reminded me of my vote on Bob too

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Alacrity is always spi C= ey

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hm rereading this game is already fruitful

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https://www.123rf.com/photo_15434672_a- ... ontal.html ?

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yes

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What's 'pulling a cyrus' refer to?

pedit: I'm not voting the worst anymore!

with our newfound info that this is skygazer i kinda feel like they should know? because they modded that game where cyrus said he TRed me and then proceeded to keep his vote on me anyways

not gna defend/speak for Skyg but generally don't assume mods are as invested in the quirks and nuances of a game as players are; I didn't know what you meant either and read almost as much of that game as Skyg

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Never mind the fact that in a >200 page game, pulling a cyrus could refer to a lot of things and I'd bet you that tw probs didn't understand what exactly you were referring to until after your explanation, either.

ok so give us like another week or two and Skyg will probs basically know like exactly every thought I ever have

pedit: Garmr why are you up so early

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Sky gazer how do you feel about Blake Belladonna jumping onto the bob wagon despite calling both you and the worst scummy through out the game?

Context of updated reads I would saaayyyy Blake suspects she has 2-3 scum in {bob, Garmr, tw}. I'm kinda waiting for her to advance her reads a little.

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Oh nice. I'm up because my cat went on a 5am rampage. I could have slept in this morning.

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Hm how are you reading Bob so far?

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skyg and iconeum, what do you think of blake's push on me?

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I have no thoughts on bob.

skygayzer is pretty fake. does that mean scum?

hard maybe actually - more later

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There's a significant reason why I'm specifically scumreading these specific players, and the general responses to my reads list has only strengthened these reads. Do you have an idea why?

my comment abt rereading was abt you
I have a suspicion yeah

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I think your bottom 4 has 1-2 scum in it at most btw but that's unlikely surprising coming from me

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Blake, I won't be outing my reads on Garmr or Bob in much detail for a while. Sorry what I gave you wasn't very valuable. I see where you're coming from I think, it's just something I have shelved at the moment. (being aware of my own alignment also makes me kind of bored by something else which I think you're seeing)

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full disclosure I've been waffling internally over Gamma's alignment but he's

town

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Divination

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No I think the dubious tells I was seeing are likely contextually not scummy and I think he's done a few town!Gamma things. How are you reading him?

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pedit : i was actually scumleaning him...

Take me on a journey through his ISO and show me what you're seeing? I'll reciprocate afterwards

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hypocrisy has little place when trying to lynch the scumses. just walk me through his ISO a little.

pedit: mmhm I think there's some juicy slots to reread so far (and some fairly boring ones)

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I wonder if I just found a really funny tell on skygazer
if so I'm p sure she's town
if not I'm somewhat sure she's town

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im starting to question my read...

while reading his ISO or just in general?

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if you can quote posts and type words about how your brain thoughts are changing that'll help. I know having a read in flux can feel awkward and embarrassing but whiplash trajectory can show us a lot about your alignment.

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my opener was kind of over-the-top posturing of Gamma which we've spoken a little about. if I was doing that a bit closer to the crunch you should probably dayvig me but it's a pretty unique way to open rvs.

What makes you consider Gamma lynchbait? I think he's kind of abandoned that.

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yea <3 it's fun
do ISOs if some people are hurting your brain

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ah valid smh gamma

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Wonder how many of Arcfield/tn are scum.

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I copied/pasted the link and it was cute idk why it broke either

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making friends is dangerous emps. always be on guard.

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Wonder how many of Arcfield/tn are scum.

I can probably understand why you think it's me.

oh?

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I don't think i've posted too much (if at all.) It's only natural.

You think scum are more likely to lurk this game out? Why wouldn't I think people who are active and pushing a scum agenda are scum?

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tn I think you're more likely to correctly townread me than anyone else on the list
given the amount of content I've spat out and the fact you've been useless so far "divination" isn't really valid from you to me, you know?

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smh tn why did you have to roll scum against me :c

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my reads have changed lots since then!
i stopped posting readlists because it became less valuable for me to publicly solve

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having said that
VOTE: Arcfield
better vote rn

pedit: bob I think??

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where's your head at readwise?

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tbf good choice
why didn't you like me at first?

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when did you decide i was town? (p sure i can guess the answer to this i suppose)

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hey spyconeum wanna join us on Arcy?
pedit: *spits tea*

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lmfao<3

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not ignoring ya iconeum deciding how much i feel like saying

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probably the correct answer here is that i largely agree with your assessment.

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seeya

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yeah

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osuka given reaction to emps there what's your read on Gamma?

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osuka given reaction to emps there what's your read on Gamma?

given whose reaction?

yours

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i think gamma can be town for now

talk me thru it?

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omg what if like
this game has no player flakes
all the replacements are alts

{tw}
{skyg, ico}
{bob, gamma, emps}
{tn, blake}
{arc, garmr, osuka, fire}

kinda wonder how close this is.

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hi fireass, been a while

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@Arc, do you remember our (brief) chat in the dead thread of your newbie game?
What's on your mind this game?

@emps yeah, he intentionally heavily obfuscates his playstyle on Fireass tho

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Wonder how many of Arcfield/tn are scum.

I can probably understand why you think it's me.

I don't think i've posted too much (if at all.) It's only natural.

This pre-emptive defensive stance is just bad tho

VOTE: Arc

##proxy: the worst

VOTE: Arcfield

there are

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emps could I get a quick summary of your reads atm?

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VOTE: firesassin

...?

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Idk im not very good at giving out readlists, i cant even do them d1 in newbies sometimes

No dramas.
Why have you got Garmr and Fireass so high?

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he deffo can
Fireass is more srs tho

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I think the lack of votes on Bella is that she hasn't been spicy enough (nullish to everyone) rather than her being explicitly towny or scummy. I think she's made one kinda towny post and a lot of posts which is why I want some feedback on the way she's gone about reading me.

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Skyg reckon you can throw me two meta tells on bob?

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@blake i didn't really want to say earlier but garmr/bob feels like...too hammy for w/w
think bob is higher scum equity than garmr in that equation

#805 makes me think osuka/bob s/s

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bob strikes me as town because of the seemingly organic analyses, even if i don't necessarily agree with anything he said

emps and bob feels tvt, but i currently have too many townreads to be comfortable so i'll probably revisit some of these slots

just for posterity: if anyone can talk me through bob's case in detail and show me that it is "seemingly organic" but not necessarily agreeable, i'll eat my hat
second line is distancing. there is no reason to be concerned about this as town.

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think blake is probably town i guess
my main reservation is that her read on me felt almost completely forced (again, no one has given much feedback on this so...i'm gonna assume everyone found it as uninspiring as i did...) and i'm ~wary~ that's something i'd expect to see from scum!her

otherwise her pushes/takes have been reasonably towny

i think i'm at a point where on balance of probabilities she's more likely to be town than scum but out of SHEER SPITE i don't want to be finessed by her pocketing me >:c

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@blake i didn't really want to say earlier but garmr/bob feels like...too hammy for w/w
think bob is higher scum equity than garmr in that equation

#805 makes me think osuka/bob s/s

whats w/w?

wolf/wolf = scum/scum

eat my hat i stole from someone here but i can't remember who, idrk if it's common

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don't have time to go into that much detail atm and i don't think my analysis will be as interesting as yours is.
outside of a vacuum: do you think her push is scummy or just wrong?

in short i don't strongly townread you but i think there's more likely scum you don't look aligned with. i disagree with some of her townreads.

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hm bugger i meta dived and disagree
could you show me which ones pinged you as town!bob thoughts? i'm not reading super closely atm either, so major ymmv and i'm just after some real base contrarianism

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whats in a vacuum, and whats out a vacuum? ive heard these terms used before and im not quite sure what they mean.

also duck, which TRs do you disagree with?

in a vacuum is in isolation, without considering context necessarily. also refers to when someone is reacting to something in a tunnelly way. outside vacuum is opposite.

why did you ask this last question? in detail please

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It is intentionally vague

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with 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. day 1 ends august 5th at 17:20 central US time; in 7 days, 17 hours, 41 minutes

other slots i want in the spotlight for now

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Iconeum you arm twistin' little dragon you
VOTE: osuka

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in short i don't strongly townread you but i think there's more likely scum you don't look aligned with. i disagree with some of her townreads.

I want you go to into this for me, the worst.

before eod
which part's tickling your spice radar?

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Oh I think I've more or less already said. I think bob and Garmr look unaligned. Bob's take on Garmr is really cheesy and their interactions feel like.. hm I just started thinking about something

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Im town this game firebringer wanna be mason buddies?

I wonder why he made this post

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Sorry tangential mind: I think bob's read on Garmr is sliiimy. I think Garmr in a vacuum has been okish. their interactions with each other have been a little silly but given their scumgames and personalities it strikes me as something genuine and like I just can't picture Garmr and Bob together in the scum pt planning this out. It's either earnestly-acted theatre (in which case it's not very good) or they're not both scum

I'm gonna reassess this on more than a gut/individual ISO basis quite soon.

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tl;dr scum are goin' down

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Blakey when did you realise Garmr was your top scumread?

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Sure, that's reasonable. Who are your stronger townreads?

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which one are you wrong on, Blake?

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sp

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assume bob/garmr aren't s/s
which one are you wrong on first?

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tn vote is fine/10
osuka vote is yeah/10

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Garmr (3): Blake Belladonna, Skygazer, tn5421
osuka (3): emps, Iconeum, the worst
the worst (1): osuka
Skygazer (1): bob3141
emps (1): Fire Assassin
Blake Belladonna (1): Garmr

not voting (2): Arcfield, Gamma Emerald

this tickling anyone else's brain?