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[Dr Easy Bake]

FL you have a podcast?

I made the intro.

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s waaaaaay different.

Starlord’s writing and that moment was earned character wise and storywise.

Batman vs Superman was just bad writing for that spot.

Flawed characters does not = flawed writing.

There were so many ways/reasons for their plan to fail and for Endgame to happen, and I would have been fine with that.

Starlord blows. It's the same exact situation as BVS. There's a plan to take out a bad guy (or a rad guy as one of my alts would say) and a main character fucks it up because of their emotions.

But the emotions are earned, so it’s fine on a structural level. (In the world, you can hate on them, but the character is well written into it)

Batman vs Superman just wasn’t. Superman had no connection to Batman on the personal level, and didn’t even do anything to Batman to cause his emotional outbreak, he just said a word and because of casual happenstance it did something.

Thanos actively made decisions and choices that wrecked Starlord’s life

Starlord had also been built up as immature and reckless.

Starlord’s entire character was written for that moment to hit. The temporary heel turn

You just felt that nice heel heat, which means he did a good job of eliciting your emotions as intended.

BvS doesn’t elicit the right emotion.

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s terrible audio quality, wasn’t a major thing, and not really my thing tbh. Just was trying it out.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m more of an actor type, my writing, eventual directing will always take a backseat to acting

[Menalque]

FL you have a podcast?

I made the intro.

Oh, sick

[Dr Easy Bake]

Heroes are supposed to be strong.
Being unable to control your emotions is weak.

This is a really weird take that I think makes a lot of assumptions about masculinity and the way it’s tied up in hero narratives

It has nothing to do with gender and/or masculinity dude.
Whatever gender someone is doesn't matter. Have your emotions, just don't let them ruin heroic plans.
When heroes can't control their emotions, people die.

[Menalque]

I’ve decided on a new nickname for you FL

[Flavor Leaf]

Heroes are supposed to be strong.
Being unable to control your emotions is weak.

Then you get characters like Superman/Captain America.

Who you don’t like

(I personally think Cap’s story arc in the MCU was fantastic and much more subtle than expected despite also not being a huge fan of the Cap originally)

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh, the podcast is Flippy and I

[Gamma Emerald]

Y’all

This is really all I have to say right now

Spoiler:

You said you'd start contributing after D1, calling your bluff now

[Gamma Emerald]

only scum account slips like Nancy Drew.

Why?

[Dr Easy Bake]

It’s waaaaaay different.

Starlord’s writing and that moment was earned character wise and storywise.

Batman vs Superman was just bad writing for that spot.

Flawed characters does not = flawed writing.

There were so many ways/reasons for their plan to fail and for Endgame to happen, and I would have been fine with that.

Starlord blows. It's the same exact situation as BVS. There's a plan to take out a bad guy (or a rad guy as one of my alts would say) and a main character fucks it up because of their emotions.

But the emotions are earned, so it’s fine on a structural level. (In the world, you can hate on them, but the character is well written into it)

Batman vs Superman just wasn’t. Superman had no connection to Batman on the personal level, and didn’t even do anything to Batman to cause his emotional outbreak, he just said a word and because of casual happenstance it did something.

Thanos actively made decisions and choices that wrecked Starlord’s life

Starlord had also been built up as immature and reckless.

Starlord’s entire character was written for that moment to hit. The temporary heel turn

You just felt that nice heel heat, which means he did a good job of eliciting your emotions as intended.

BvS doesn’t elicit the right emotion.

Again, you are trying to convince me with meta-analysis.
I don't care about meta-analysis or the writing, that's not what I'm pissed about.
I pissed in the general sense that the trope for hero movies these days is to let everything get fucked up by emotions.
Starlord shouldn't have been involved in that plan due to his instability.

Heroes should be able to control their emotions Period

A hero puts others in front of themselves. Starlord was the most selfish person in the world at that moment.

[Gamma Emerald]

The "I've been sick" shtick could just be a cover-up

Spoiler:

.

Ew

[Menalque]

Heroes are supposed to be strong.
Being unable to control your emotions is weak.

This is a really weird take that I think makes a lot of assumptions about masculinity and the way it’s tied up in hero narratives

It has nothing to do with gender and/or masculinity dude.
Whatever gender someone is doesn't matter. Have your emotions, just don't let them ruin heroic plans.
When heroes can't control their emotions, people die.

I’m not talking about gender tho, I’m talking specifically about the way that hero narratives get framed. As in, it’s often that the strong, masculine presence is framed as good and part of that is not feeling emotions or letting them guide decisions. And that’s an active choice that is being made in these stories, to frame those emotion based choices as negative.

Why does strength = not being guided by enotion in fiction.

[Gamma Emerald]

I've been slammed today with math work so I just popped in when the deadline was up to vote Menalque. I still despise his whole "pure" thing from yesterday. I'm here now, I'm fine with an Avengers thing too, only scum account slips like Nancy Drew.
VOTE: Avengers

Explain this.

I have said my piece. Only scum posts on the wrong account. Speaking from the one time I did it as scum.

Okay this is so wrong
Alt/hydra slips are universal

[Flavor Leaf]

Heroes are supposed to be strong.
Being unable to control your emotions is weak.

This is a really weird take that I think makes a lot of assumptions about masculinity and the way it’s tied up in hero narratives

It has nothing to do with gender and/or masculinity dude.
Whatever gender someone is doesn't matter. Have your emotions, just don't let them ruin heroic plans.
When heroes can't control their emotions, people die.

Also,

Kylo Ren’s the best part about the problematic new Star Wars trilogy, and if the new one is done correctly, i have hope with JJ coming back, he’s gonna save it completely.

Side note, I think DEB might purposefully egging me on to distract from scum buddy Avengers.

I don’t have any completed games with DEB were I’m not scum, so I haven’t ever had to read him online, and while he would post like that as either alignment, idk if he actively does that, if that makes sense.


It was just a thought that came up

[Menalque]

FL do you wanna hear your new nickname?

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s waaaaaay different.

Starlord’s writing and that moment was earned character wise and storywise.

Batman vs Superman was just bad writing for that spot.

Flawed characters does not = flawed writing.

There were so many ways/reasons for their plan to fail and for Endgame to happen, and I would have been fine with that.

Starlord blows. It's the same exact situation as BVS. There's a plan to take out a bad guy (or a rad guy as one of my alts would say) and a main character fucks it up because of their emotions.

But the emotions are earned, so it’s fine on a structural level. (In the world, you can hate on them, but the character is well written into it)

Batman vs Superman just wasn’t. Superman had no connection to Batman on the personal level, and didn’t even do anything to Batman to cause his emotional outbreak, he just said a word and because of casual happenstance it did something.

Thanos actively made decisions and choices that wrecked Starlord’s life

Starlord had also been built up as immature and reckless.

Starlord’s entire character was written for that moment to hit. The temporary heel turn

You just felt that nice heel heat, which means he did a good job of eliciting your emotions as intended.

BvS doesn’t elicit the right emotion.

Again, you are trying to convince me with meta-analysis.
I don't care about meta-analysis or the writing, that's not what I'm pissed about.
I pissed in the general sense that the trope for hero movies these days is to let everything get fucked up by emotions.
Starlord shouldn't have been involved in that plan due to his instability.

Heroes should be able to control their emotions Period

A hero puts others in front of themselves. Starlord was the most selfish person in the world at that moment.

So you must like Cap America then, right?

His entire story arc was about him controlling his emotions and his love for a woman in a different era.

[Flavor Leaf]

FL do you wanna hear your new nickname?

Is it Star Leaf of Flavor Lord?

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m thinking from starry night maybe?

Oh you followed that? Did you like it *winks suggestively*?

[Menalque]

What do you mean when you say the new Star Wars trilogy is problematic?

[Menalque]

FL do you wanna hear your new nickname?

Is it Star Leaf of Flavor Lord?

It’s Schrodinger’s Swede

[Menalque]

I’m thinking from starry night maybe?

Oh you followed that? Did you like it *winks suggestively*?

I’m still working through it

Now I’m gonna go and look at you specifically haha

[Dr Easy Bake]

Heroes are supposed to be strong.
Being unable to control your emotions is weak.

Then you get characters like Superman/Captain America.

Or people like Doctor Strange who is fucking awesome.

[Dr Easy Bake]

Y’all

This is really all I have to say right now

Spoiler:

You said you'd start contributing after D1, calling your bluff now

Come on Mom, five more minutes!