Mini 2090 CYS: AtmosFEAR of Terrors

[Katsuki]

VOTE: Temporal Lich, Alisae, Implosion, Grey Ice

[Alisae]

(even if it included deathtunneling pine)

why are you saying this as if its a bad thing?

[Not Known 15]

[Town]

implosion (setup spec and pushes ahoy)

Since when is setup spec a towntell?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

One Vote folks.

[hebichan]

Right that's what I thought at first, TL threw me off.



VOTE: GreyIce

Everyone knows who I want the other 3 to be though, so do with that info what you will.

[MariaR]

Merci, Madame!

VOTE: Temporal Lich

[GreyICE]

the sarcastic lyncher claim was after the Pine lynch went through??

Yes, but it doesn't really matter. You just look at it and you're okay with it? I dunno. It betrays a level of "not thinking" that I'm not comfortable assigning to you.

To walk you through the problem I'm having, it's very much difficult to connect to your reads, since the very few things you've said have, except for MariaR, come out of nowhere. Pine was obvscum or Jester because... (I guess we were saying so), you vote to give the green key to Implosion because he "looks townie" but then the next post say MariaR almost certainly picked town/3P/scum. Which would make her at least almost certainly not-scum. But imp is a better pick for green key. And... whoops, I ran out of things you've said regarding the alignment of other people.

To add you're one of the people I'd peg 50/50 on listing scum first, and you might see why I'm getting very concerned with what I'm seeing.

[kuribo]

God I'm glad Grey is town

vote: GreyICE

Go have fun bro

[Alisae]

NK15 what's your pick order for alignments?

[Skygazer]

Yes, but it doesn't really matter. You just look at it and you're okay with it? I dunno. It betrays a level of "not thinking" that I'm not comfortable assigning to you.

I think I'm perfectly capable of not thinking; I don't know. I haven't really been paying as much attention as I should to this game due to exhaustion/other stuff. I'm pretty sure I just saw "lyncher claim" and figured "I can safely ignore this until it's time to lynch again and then maybe we'll policy lynch the third party."

To walk you through the problem I'm having, it's very much difficult to connect to your reads, since the very few things you've said have, except for MariaR, come out of nowhere. Pine was obvscum or Jester because... (I guess we were saying so), you vote to give the green key to Implosion because he "looks townie" but then the next post say MariaR almost certainly picked town/3P/scum. Which would make her at least almost certainly not-scum. But imp is a better pick for green key. And... whoops, I ran out of things you've said regarding the alignment of other people.

At the time I voted I wasn't really considering Maria's picks; implosion just looked townie to me. If I was able to consider Maria's picks at the time, I'd have definitely considered pushing for her to get the key. Pine was playing in this super defensive way that didn't really look like it was coming from a town mindset. There's not a huge need for me to comment on that when other players already had. My D1 play usually winds up with my reads stagnating and I end up waiting for flips to piece together more things, but this is flipless, so. I think TL putting me as his second highest townread is fairly scummy/potentially tmi because I tend to look pretty scummy as town and pretty townie as scum. I think your push on me is coming from a genuine place? Your post-post-restriction posts (ha) have been great. Two more reads off the top of my head! I'll have more to say eventually.

To add you're one of the people I'd peg 50/50 on listing scum first, and you might see why I'm getting very concerned with what I'm seeing.

Fair enough; I was considering opening along the lines of "why would I pick scum against this playerlist?" but the last time I tried to locktown myself on D1 it went rather poorly I think I'd probably enjoy the challenge of playing scum against this playerlist but out of my last five scum games, two were losses, two I got cheated on by RAS, and one I managed to coast to the end off of a bullshit lol-friendly neighbor claim. Idk. I don't have a high opinion of my play right now.

[Skygazer]

During the key-voting thing I had a lapse in my Maria TR considering how others pointed out differences in her play here. After the key-voting was done, I realized that she's very likely not lying here about her picks. I probably won't be able to have the same level of confidence in other's picks, though.

[Skygazer]

Not Known doesn't feel like he's playing to get TR'd which is like, probably the optimal scum strat here. Some stuff he did pinged me but I feel like his play is more likely to come from town.

[kuribo]

Not Known doesn't feel like he's playing to get TR'd which is like, probably the optimal scum strat here. Some stuff he did pinged me but I feel like his play is more likely to come from town.

how is it an optimal scum strat in this setup for no one to think you're town when you have to get to the Well of Fears and be entrusted with a key?

[implosion]

i think that's what sky is saying

[Skygazer]

That is, in fact, what I was saying!

[Alisae]

I would like to think that we're competing to try and get a key in this event so we should try and send the town players but I'm not 100% sold on that

[Alisae]

also yeah
I'm in a neighbourhood with NK15
we both don't know why we're in there
I'm assuming someone put us in there?

Anyhow can I just say that I hate this post?

I think my read list looks like this for now:

[Town]

implosion (setup spec and pushes ahoy)
Skygazer (quality ISO)
hebichan (townreading here, I can see good intentions here. May the green key secure the town win)
Alisae (the deathtunneling seems odd, but I think I still TR alisae, treat this as a townlean)
GreyICE (your limericks and non-post restricted posts were towny, townlean here)
MariaR (don't have much to work with here... uhhh... town?)
kuribo (uhh... hard null at best I guess)
Plum (scummy ISO)
Not Known 15 (zero effort means zero reason for me to townread you)
Katsuki (not the lyncher, therefore 9 times out of 10 is a scumlord. If this is the 10% universe, maybe this game is weirder than normal)

[Scum]

Further questions:
Why is post 375 a town-tell?
What are, exactly, the good intentions of hebichan and where are the posts these reads are based on?
Why do you townread Alisae in the first place, them being post-restricted to pictures very fast?
Why is "zero reasons to townread" lower than "scummy ISO"?
What exactly is scummy about Plum's ISO?
Why are the limericks and other post of GreyICE towny, in your opinion?
What are the conflicting signs that put kuribo at "hard null at best"?

Like, I really think these questions and the amount of questions here is just made to make it look like NK15 is doing something.

[Alisae]

{GreyICE, Hebichan, Plum, Skygazer, Kuribo, Implo}
{MariaR, TL}
{Katsuki, NK15}

[TemporalLich]

if you're voting to thunderdome me, which of these four categories apply to me?

bottom read / strongest scumread
lurker
someone you'd cop as a cop
a townlean just in case the thunderdome is good

just saying the ideal thunderdome is one player from each category

[TemporalLich]

actually that applies regardless of who you're voting

[TemporalLich]

VOTE: Katsuki

for the bottom read category

[Katsuki]

ALRIGHT SO WITH 11 ALIVE

WE NEED
3 VOTES ON TL
3 ON GI
3 ON IMP
2 ON ALISAE

OR SINCE TL IS TRYING TO GET ME TO PARTICIPATE OVER HIM WITH THAT SCUMCLAIM 2 ON IMP IS PROBABLY FINE

VOTE: TL

[Katsuki]

{GreyICE, Hebichan, Plum, Skygazer, Kuribo, Implo}
{MariaR, TL}
{Katsuki, NK15}

WANNA EXPLAIN YOUR LINE OF THINKING THAT MAKES YOU THINK IM SCUM WITH PINE AND NK15?

[implosion]

just saying the ideal thunderdome is one player from each category

why are you so goddamn confident of this

[Not Known 15]

just saying the ideal thunderdome is one player from each category

why are you so goddamn confident of this

Maybe TMI?