Pokémon Fusion U-Pick [Game Over]

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I thought he was saying BW IS Skitter, which idk how people piece all that together.

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Don’t fix what ain’t broke.

Rock Paper Scissors i won the majority of the time because right before we start playing I say, “I call Paper.” Then I pick paper, and usually people either pick Paper thinking I’m tricking them into picking Scissors, or they pick rock because they try to pull the wool over me a little bit, but i pick paper

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Don’t fix what ain’t broke.

Rock Paper Scissors i won the majority of the time because right before we start playing I say, “I call Paper.” Then I pick paper, and usually people either pick Paper thinking I’m tricking them into picking Scissors, or they pick rock because they try to pull the wool over me a little bit, but i pick paper

What?

Well, if you say you call paper, people aren’t going to believe you are going to pick paper, so they’ll instinctively think “he ain’t picking paper” so they narrow down what im going to pick as either rock or scissor, meaning they’re going to pick paper or or rock, depending on what they think i will pick thus making it so picking paper, i cant lose.

Also, occasionally there’s a player who can tell “damn, he’s actually gonna pick paper,” so they pick scissors, but I can normally tell when someone’s so instantly next level, and I’ll play rock, but like I said, that’s rare.

And even then, you can still play this card up, and have players who know I’m gonna pick paper but willing to break that trend to bring them right back to the original rock or scissors combo.

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How does this correspond to BW and if she’s skitt or not?

I can’t remember.

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Oh yeah, WIFOM trickery. It’s real fun.

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What do you do if someone says “I’m gonna pick scissors”?

“2 out of 3, right?”

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VOTE: Avengers

I expect a big fight

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Wow, all your picks look so much cooler than mine which is funny because i was trying to get a super cool upick considering my last upick i went the most normie norm nomelton Route.

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Lather, rinse, repe -eat

Lather, rinse, repe -eat

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To die, to sleep—to sleep, perchance to dream; ay, there’s the rub

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Well, i don’t really remember who all is in that hydra, or who’s who other than apparently BW is Skitter? So idk if that’s a reason to town read me.

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Y’all

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Y’all

This is really all I have to say right now

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I’m about to cause a ruckus

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VOTE: Avengers

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If Menalque and Jibril are both scum, their plan is to Sheep me and empower me to single handedly self destruct town, saying that right now.

I’m actively pulling away from reading them this game, so other people do it haha

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This is why I normally withhold my vote, just sayin

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Honestly, I get Dr Easy Bake and Flippynips names messed up often, and I’ve known them 6 and 4 years respectively, I’m never gonna get these big hydras correctly nailed down on who they are

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Hihi

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Doing some digging on who was also in no deadlines. Can only confirm profii is not Loki so far.

Profii isn’t in that. I’d have spotted it

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Krazy’s probably in it

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How many heads are there

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@Loki - can we have a list of all the signs at least? You don’t need to say who’s playing them.

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@Loki - can we have a list of all the signs at least? You don’t need to say who’s playing them.

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@Loki - can we have a list of all the signs at least? You don’t need to say who’s playing them.

The what?

Like

Loki
Iron Man


Can we get all the possible ones

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I just wanna know how many people

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I feel like Nancy would have answered my thing impulsively

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To be fair, I feel like I’ve alt slipped as town much more than as scum.

Idk if I’ve done it as scum before. I’m generally more careful, and generally more aware.

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You forgot Starlord

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If Starlord wasn't trash who couldn't control his emotions, Endgame wouldn't have had to even happen.

EXACTLY.

Starlord is the reason we got that fantastic movie

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And I’m StarLord.

Rude

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Do you know who isn't a good team player?
Starlord
He single-handedly foiled the plan to take out Thanos in Infinity War.

Epic.

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Why has hulk not posted?

He was previously busy with another game. I fully expect him to do so, assuming we don’t get mislynched first.

So it’s a He who has been recently playing.

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Do you know who isn't a good team player?
Starlord
He single-handedly foiled the plan to take out Thanos in Infinity War.

Epic.

Fail.

That HAD to happen to stop Thanos because Thanos was inevitable.

Starlord indirectly SAVED the world by doing that because it was necessary because of the 1 possible outcome

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Which is an example of Thanos getting his just desserts because of Starlord’s connection to Gamora, so Thanos caused his own demise by invoking Starlord.

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It couldn’t have been! Thanos is inevitable! Something else would have happened to ruin it.

There was only one path

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I know it

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It’s waaaaaay different.

Starlord’s writing and that moment was earned character wise and storywise.

Batman vs Superman was just bad writing for that spot.

Flawed characters does not = flawed writing.

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Flawed characters are far superior than normies like boring Superman or Arrow from Arrow (excluding the flashbacks)

There are many reasons Dark phoenix sucks.

You can listen to my podcast about that.

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It’s waaaaaay different.

Starlord’s writing and that moment was earned character wise and storywise.

Batman vs Superman was just bad writing for that spot.

Flawed characters does not = flawed writing.

There were so many ways/reasons for their plan to fail and for Endgame to happen, and I would have been fine with that.

Starlord blows. It's the same exact situation as BVS. There's a plan to take out a bad guy (or a rad guy as one of my alts would say) and a main character fucks it up because of their emotions.

But the emotions are earned, so it’s fine on a structural level. (In the world, you can hate on them, but the character is well written into it)

Batman vs Superman just wasn’t. Superman had no connection to Batman on the personal level, and didn’t even do anything to Batman to cause his emotional outbreak, he just said a word and because of casual happenstance it did something.

Thanos actively made decisions and choices that wrecked Starlord’s life

Starlord had also been built up as immature and reckless.

Starlord’s entire character was written for that moment to hit. The temporary heel turn

You just felt that nice heel heat, which means he did a good job of eliciting your emotions as intended.

BvS doesn’t elicit the right emotion.

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It’s terrible audio quality, wasn’t a major thing, and not really my thing tbh. Just was trying it out.

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I’m more of an actor type, my writing, eventual directing will always take a backseat to acting

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Heroes are supposed to be strong.
Being unable to control your emotions is weak.

Then you get characters like Superman/Captain America.

Who you don’t like

(I personally think Cap’s story arc in the MCU was fantastic and much more subtle than expected despite also not being a huge fan of the Cap originally)

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Oh, the podcast is Flippy and I

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Heroes are supposed to be strong.
Being unable to control your emotions is weak.

This is a really weird take that I think makes a lot of assumptions about masculinity and the way it’s tied up in hero narratives

It has nothing to do with gender and/or masculinity dude.
Whatever gender someone is doesn't matter. Have your emotions, just don't let them ruin heroic plans.
When heroes can't control their emotions, people die.

Also,

Kylo Ren’s the best part about the problematic new Star Wars trilogy, and if the new one is done correctly, i have hope with JJ coming back, he’s gonna save it completely.

Side note, I think DEB might purposefully egging me on to distract from scum buddy Avengers.

I don’t have any completed games with DEB were I’m not scum, so I haven’t ever had to read him online, and while he would post like that as either alignment, idk if he actively does that, if that makes sense.


It was just a thought that came up

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It’s waaaaaay different.

Starlord’s writing and that moment was earned character wise and storywise.

Batman vs Superman was just bad writing for that spot.

Flawed characters does not = flawed writing.

There were so many ways/reasons for their plan to fail and for Endgame to happen, and I would have been fine with that.

Starlord blows. It's the same exact situation as BVS. There's a plan to take out a bad guy (or a rad guy as one of my alts would say) and a main character fucks it up because of their emotions.

But the emotions are earned, so it’s fine on a structural level. (In the world, you can hate on them, but the character is well written into it)

Batman vs Superman just wasn’t. Superman had no connection to Batman on the personal level, and didn’t even do anything to Batman to cause his emotional outbreak, he just said a word and because of casual happenstance it did something.

Thanos actively made decisions and choices that wrecked Starlord’s life

Starlord had also been built up as immature and reckless.

Starlord’s entire character was written for that moment to hit. The temporary heel turn

You just felt that nice heel heat, which means he did a good job of eliciting your emotions as intended.

BvS doesn’t elicit the right emotion.

Again, you are trying to convince me with meta-analysis.
I don't care about meta-analysis or the writing, that's not what I'm pissed about.
I pissed in the general sense that the trope for hero movies these days is to let everything get fucked up by emotions.
Starlord shouldn't have been involved in that plan due to his instability.

Heroes should be able to control their emotions Period

A hero puts others in front of themselves. Starlord was the most selfish person in the world at that moment.

So you must like Cap America then, right?

His entire story arc was about him controlling his emotions and his love for a woman in a different era.

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FL do you wanna hear your new nickname?

Is it Star Leaf of Flavor Lord?

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FL do you wanna hear your new nickname?

Is it Star Leaf of Flavor Lord?

It’s Schrodinger’s Swede

I’m super Californian

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What do you mean when you say the new Star Wars trilogy is problematic?

I could get into this more if we really wanted to...but that’s a whole discussion.

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VOTE: DEB

This isn’t a scum read, this is just for show on the Starlord debate cuz i mean business!

He’s been developing really well and that was like his big moment.

He now has to live with the fact he did that. He knows what he did.

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Really sad DEB survived the night, there literally is no reason to think that slot is town. Gamma is still almost certainly scum. My other scum reads are kinda all over the place right now, though I think my town reads are generally similar. Also have a decent to large project right now so probably won't be posting for a little bit.

ALSO, Star lord being powerful but immature is literally his defining characteristic, like its what the second movie was about. They built the plot around the characters, at least in that instance (Dr.Strange stopped having a character in that film).

VOTE: Gamma

He's got a pew-pew laser. How is Starlord powerful?
Do you know who is powerful?
Doctor Strange.

Also, I'm so fucking town. This Starlord spew is so ridiculously town indicative.
Would I really be this aggro as scum when people already wanted me out of here?

Did you not watch Guardians 2...?

He’s got planetary creation/destruction powers.

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I think this is entirely NAI for both of you

Did you not see my Avengers/Deb pairing theory?

Might be NAI now, but I don’t think anything is truly ever NAI.

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I’m pretty sure it’s on my GTKAS

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I think there’s fair odds independently that they’re both scum

Who are you talking about here?

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Because I’m basically Anakin

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I think i found scum, but I need to give a little time before I case

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Because I’m basically Anakin

Wut? I never said YOU were from Tatooine. You're from Fresno.

This is a lie. Scum caught.

I’ve never lived in/or within 35 mile radius to fresno

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I’m essentially an exact opposite of a Fresno citizen tbh

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VOTE: Menalque

He was setting up a mislynch chain.

Look at how he was with my slot. He was town reading me to the point where I was paranoid, which i have brought up.

He then goes to say that the debate between DEB and I was NAI.

He then starts to bring up the possibility of us being SvS, the mislynch chain.

This is after his apparent unknown strong town read on my slot followed by stating he thought the discussion was NAI.

This is a strong inconsistency.

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I thought we already talked about BW being skitter

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I think Menalque is kinda townie

pedit Yep

more pedits: I don't like the menalque vote. I"m like ten pages behind so I don't know the context for 'setting up a mislynch chain' but I'm kinda townreading him here

~ Black Widow

HARD White Knighting or blatant defense of a buddy

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Avengers are hatcheting me

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Why’d you ride it out for me?

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Why’d you ride it out for me?

That’s not what I meant lol

I meant flavor as in the theming of the game

O dat makes more sense

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anyway, I’m not willing to do avengers today at this point

Makes sense

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anyway, I’m not willing to do avengers today at this point

Makes sense

fl i think this is a scummy post.

discuss

What’s there to discuss.

That makes sense that you are saying that you think that is a scummy post.

I was saying it made sense that likely scumMenalque doesn’t want to lynch scumAvengers, and is now creating a dichotomy between the players. A paradigm shift is on the way, and we will start to have a counterwagon pretty soon, I imagine.

This is Skitter?

Yeah, you wanna know where you indirectly scum claimed?

You have been acting like you’re scum reading me, key word, acting, but the last time we played together, you specifically stated that you don’t think that I could mislynch you if I were scum.

Now, I feel that if you were town and I was scum in this gamestate, you’re mislynch, like Thanos, could easily be inevitable, but I backed away from pushing you because I don’t necessarily see you as “lockscum” by any means, and I admit, the high quantity hydras I can’t keep track of for the life of me.

But the fact that you are pushing me here in this game state contradicts your own personal opinion of how ScumMe could interact with you.

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Now, I’m about to get my haircut.

It’ll be about 2 and a half hours until i’m finished. There may be some times I can check in, but alas, most of the time, my hairs shall be getting cut.

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I’m not trying to do anything. You guys tied yourself together!

Anyone who knows me knows I generally play off of social dynamics that include pairings and teams more than individuals because I look into game state.

This is especially true post Day 1’s.

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Avengers are scum, let's end

game

them

FTFY (don't think they're scum but had to make the joke)

Get me Thanos; I’ll screw everything up for everyone!

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* that no matter what alignmen they are *i'm* scummy, sorry

It’s more of a “no matter what alignment

you

are, they’re scummy” than this.

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I’m not trying to do anything. You guys tied yourself together!

Anyone who knows me knows I generally play off of social dynamics that include pairings and teams more than individuals because I look into game state.

This is especially true post Day 1’s.

But this

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For real now, 2 and a half hours, my barber just opened up his door, I’ll be back with my fresh new lineup

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Also, how does anyone think I’m Swedish.

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Do you, i only remember 1

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Lol @PB

Also, i think it’s fair if PB says he knows Nancy, regardless if he can accurately read her, I’ve seen them hydra together.

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Lol @PB

Also, i think it’s fair if PB says he knows Nancy, regardless if he can accurately read her, I’ve seen them hydra together.

You and DEB apparently know each other irl, correct. Would you say, both of you can accurately read each in games?

What is your DEB accuracy rate?

@DEB, same question on FL.

I’ve never had to read him prior to here. I’ve always been scum.

I think I can read him rather well, though, and I don’t really think he’s the type to bluff.

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Or gambit

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And even if I’m IC, he’s gonna call me scum.

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Idk if I’m scum reading Deb

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Idk

I’m on no sleep.

I’m super busy the next few days

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I don’t think krazy’s anime upick is a good example.

I was juggling like 4-5 scum games in a row and was burnt out by that time, so i didn’t really start even playing until days in.

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FL was mafia aligned in Stallone too, he wasn't a plain SK

Yeah, but they were able to win without me, And I had a wincon that I had to be the last one alive, so that just made it so i has to make sure to kill off every other mafia member before winning

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You always play like you have to be the last one alive, it's a coincidence that in that game that you had that wincon

I disagree.

I go for perfect scum victories normally

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Queasadilla is about my Spanish knowledge

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I get home late tonight, so I’ll be back from tomorrow.

Bad service where I’m at right now filming past few days.

Save that spicy Avengers hammer for me

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RCE, I think we need to have an intervention.

I might need to talk with a friend of yours first, though.

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Wdym you "know"? I understand the Mason thing with RCE but what about Ausuka and Pinky?

If you're scumreading Pink Ball this game you're either scum or just outright unfamiliar with him because he's as obvtown as obvtown gets this game.

Ausuka I think also looks town but I admit this is mostly a sheeping-my-townreads read.

I wouldn’t say PB is “obv town”, but nothing has pinged me as scum from him, and I’m generally reading him as town, if that makes sense.

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Queasadilla is about my Spanish knowledge

But you're from California dude, so many nice latinos to greet!

Well, I actually took 4 years of Spanish in high school, including the IB course for it, and it just doesn’t sound correct when I speak it.

I can logically write it, and understand the grammatical patterns and whatnot in Spanish, but most people don’t speak with proper grammar in day to day terms in any language.

I actively go out of my way to use less proper grammar a lot of times because it comes off as more likable when you have less punctuation or simple words.

Online I actually think you can see a mix of these, as sometimes I go super proper, and other times I’m fucking up left and right with grammar mistakes/word choice.

Also turning brain off when thinking because hen it brings out the subconscious surface

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I said fuck work today, I’m playing the new Fire Emblem. So you may talk to me today, and I may respond.

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HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS GAME?

Let me lurk until I become a tryhard and solve

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Maria we have a problem, everyone in your wagon is town, what do we do about that

Probably means some of your reads are wrong. Don’t know where, but yeah

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Maria we have a problem, everyone in your wagon is town, what do we do about that

Probably means some of your reads are wrong. Don’t know where, but yeah

Either that or Maria is scum, but I don’t have a grasp on the game enough right now to make a comment either way.

Sup guys. I’ve been away for a bit, hows it goin

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Book kid replacing out is scummy

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When did self-meta become the meta :p, there's been so much of that recently.

When did self-meta become the meta :p, there's been so much of that recently.

What you talkin’ bout?

@Menalque

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There was also what I found to be a hilarious StarLord debate.but i only remember stuff I was part of, so I may have missed some gems

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Anyone who replaces into a game on an alt is scum. Hands down. Never happens as town.

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Anyone who replaces into a game on an alt is scum. Hands down. Never happens as town.

Replaces from alt to main or main to alt?

Because the former is definitely not true

I know

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I replaced from FL to Pretentious as town in Pastries.

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Side note, Chemist is probably town.

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fl what are you trying to say

I’m just shit posting to try to trigger something in me to deeper analyze.

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fl what are you trying to say

I’m just shit posting to try to trigger something in me to deeper analyze.

Get off my lawn.

That’s not your lawn, you don’t have the second part

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My shitposting is the shit that fertilized the lawn that you grew.

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I only eat organic

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Like I don’t consider myself great at reading skitt and I know she’s a v strong scum player but I thought those posts were towny

The first half of this post is why the second half is something I don't put much stock in.

The post reeks of “I want them to know I town read them, but I want everyone else to know that you can push them.”

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Like I don’t consider myself great at reading skitt and I know she’s a v strong scum player but I thought those posts were towny

The first half of this post is why the second half is something I don't put much stock in.

The post reeks of “I want them to know I town read them, but I want everyone else to know that you can push them.”

Referring to Menalque’s, not Mastina’s.

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Anyone who replaces into a game on an alt is scum. Hands down. Never happens as town.

Look who the hell is talking
Fyi I've been barely following the last few pages or so

I was joking because of that fact

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I’m kinda drunk

Thought FL was better at reading my posts tbh

That implies I’m reading most of them. I’ve been away for days and missed a bunch. Sure, i shit post here and there, but i was out of it for a while.

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I feel like scumNancy night act the same way, though because she feels the same but not feels bad to town, feels bad for her hydra, which is NAI.

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Gamma, you like Fire Emblem, are you on that Three Houses hype?

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We have a fire emblem hydra together, and met in a Fire Emblem themed game.

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Gamma, you like Fire Emblem, are you on that Three Houses hype?

Yes
Problem is I don't have a Switch to play it on

Typed my last post before I saw this.

Damn, that’s rough.

I think it’s on route to being my favorite one.

And I was a hard Path of Radiance fanatic

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Fyi I'm hoping to pick up Awakening or Echoes soon. I have mildly spoiled myself on both but there has been enough spoilers I have seen to the point where I don't know what to actually consider real

Nice, I played through Awakening. It’s solid. Different than the other Fire Emblem’s, it’s some people’s favorite.

I was always partial to console Emblems, but there were only 2 before now, haha.

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This game’s stalled a bit.

Let me give some of my stronger reads:

Something
RCEnigma
Mastina
Itlepip
Gamma
Chemist

Alchemist
Book kid
Maria
DEB

Avengers

Menalque

No difference between tiers, except maybe the top section. I definitely have certain people higher than others, but I purposefully didn’t put them in order.

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Also, probably going to mod a Fire Emblem Three Houses game after Boon Wars.

Gonna likely use an HP mechanic, player order mechanic like Krazy’s Starcraft games, a leveling system, and a market/coin system.

Been working on a “Get to Know a Flavor” game with pretty in depth flavor, but I’m on a Three Houses hype, so that’s probably gonna come after, which gives me time to write up all the flavor.

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Who knows. One of those games is next, though.

I also have a Series of Boonfortunate Events game made that I’ll eventually get to.

Someone talk to me so I can stop thinking out loud

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Well, we already learned DGB/kuribo aren’t the strongest at reading me.

Are they a hydra in here?

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If you're really a doctor you should know what I'm talking about.

Why do you know you were roleblocked if you’re a specific doctor...?

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If you're really a doctor you should know what I'm talking about.

Why do you know you were roleblocked if you’re a specific doctor...?

...Because I doctor'd the night kill?

Thought you were gonna claim like typing specific

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VOTE: aavengers

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For what it’s worth, after Maria’s SK sneak victory on her Mary account, I tend to think the best way of dealing with her is lynching her, because she kinda has that “even if she’s conf town, she can be scum” playstyle.

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and yes for those who play the series, I know synthesis usually heals yourself, my role is using Synthesis on another player

Wait, I can heal other players too.

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I’m fine with it.

I’m just kinda done, and Avengers should have been lynched yesterday.

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I think you've been hard pocketing me FL. What do you think about that?

I think you’re right.

But it’s only because you’re so incredibly obvious. What do you think about that?

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Don’t talk about the masons.

VOTE: Menalque

It’s obvious enough anyways, it probably doesn’t matter, but I’m annoyed anyways. Just gonna go drink some orange juice, maybe mix it with some apple juice, make an orange apple juice, and move on.

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Itlepip is probably scum for claiming masons.

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With SS*.

Idk why SS didnt claim it.

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Because i called it, you and Avengers scum. I’ve been rocking lately with my reads, but i doubt myself and fuck myself over and get mislynched.

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For what it’s worth, I neighborized SS Night 1, but my neighborhood only lasts for a single cycle, and told him I was going to neighborize Mastina because I thought she was a mason. I said who I thought the mason was too.

I didn’t get a neighborhood with Mastina, and I’m not sure if that’s just because she died or not

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Nope.

Well, SS because him and I work well together, and if he’s scum, I didn’t want the ball to be in his court. I wanted to see if he were to get cautious in a “i wonder if he’s scum” kind of way rather than in a “don’t want him to catch me” kind of way.

And then in the neighborhood i brought up that I thought Mastina and another player were masons. He didn’t think that was true.

Itlepip brought up being masons with SS, which SS didn’t bring up or talk about in the neighborhood or game thread.

I believe I commented on it in both.

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Emperor flippyNips (9):

Menalque,

Katyusha

, Alchemist21,

Dr Easy Bake

, itlepip,

Avengers

,

book kid, RCEnigma, Pink Ball

Avengers (8):

mastina

,

Pink Ball, Ausuka,

Flavor Leaf, Gamma Emerald,

RCEnigma, Dr Easy Bake

, Jibril

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I wanna say at least 1 scum on both wagons, I could narrow it down further, but I’m just keeping it basic without anything else going on for the colors.

Menalque’s probably scum, so i could see 3 scum on Flippy wagon.

Probably 2 scum on Avengers. One in the yellow, the other’s probably Gamma, unless there’s multiple scum in yellow, but that would mean likely all scum on Flippynips wagon? Idk if i believe that’s

One of Menalque/itlepip/Alchemist is likely scum. So sticking with only 1 yellow.

My guess is Menalque, Gamma Emerald, and then DEB/Ausuka.

My

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Pool today consists of Menalque, Alchemist, itlepip

That mind meld

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Gaddamn FL you're blindingly town.

So are you, but I wish I was actually blind so i couldn’t see it.

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I can’t fucking read DEB

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I can read FlippyNips like a children’s book, but Lil Debbie’s a college textbook for a class I don’t take.

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Roughly where I’m at right now.


Alchemist/Jibril/RCEnigma
Pink Ball
MariaR
Chemist
Dr Easy Bake
Gamma Emerald
Ausuka
Something_Smart
Itlepip
menalque

I didn’t put too much energy into this, just off the top of my head.

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We're masons with Pink Ball and RedFlavor, have a night 0 guilty on flippyNips, are millers to ground-type pokemon investigatives, and are informed the scum team doesn't include any novice night 1 loyal vigilantes.

VOTE: flips

-Iron Man

Oi, this actually makes me a little paranoid of PB/Maria.

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We're masons with Pink Ball and RedFlavor, have a night 0 guilty on flippyNips, are millers to ground-type pokemon investigatives, and are informed the scum team doesn't include any novice night 1 loyal vigilantes.

VOTE: flips

-Iron Man

Who does your hydra consist of? I don't need actual names of course, but what Avengers are we dealing with?

And this might be scum theatre

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Early town reads on Debbie D oh double g, RCE, Oversoul

I agree on DEB and Oversoul, I think

I think you can probably read RCE better than me, so what are you seeing there that's town? His entrance is pinging me

~ Black Widow

This is Avengers trying to discredit my early town read on RCE.

Also implies DEB/Oversoul slot (who took this spot?) has a scum.

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Scum.

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No, I'm pretty sure this is town

Maybe he’s WK’ing. There’s a lot of Debbie Doggie doo doo stuff

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FL is very distinctly not playing like he does as town.

Y’all, it’s Day 1 in a large. How you tryna play something like that? Every game of mine’s different.

Yes, true, I should have added an "in my experience" to that, because we both know my experience with town-you is pretty limited

Oh SS you rolled town, that's nice.

-IM

Ugh

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I’m really trying to town read Something, but avengers has some associations with him that I don’t like. I had a little paranoia with him as well too despite generally not seeing him as too scummy. Kinda under the radar which makes me think of LNT.

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And Mastina died.

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Actually thinking about it, you were scum and Guns N’ Roses and much more active there, so i actually have less doubt again.

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What you talking about

Avengers got lynched because of me, I spent the entire Day 2 saying menalque and avengers were scum.

Y’all bitches lynched obvtown flippyNips when I told you he was town and voting avengers.

Actually, this gains merit tothere potentially being more scum than normal on Flippy because Avengers was the counterwagon, and scum are obviously going to try to protect them Day 1.

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I nailed Skitter scum HARD with her comment from a game where she was IC and told me that ScumMe could never mislynch her, she pushed a scum read on me, and she was inches from mislynch, proving that she didn’t actually scum read me because she was worried about getting lynched proving those 2 don’t add up.

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But yeah, I could go Itlepip.

DEB has a tendency to bus scum buddies silly billy and go “but why would I do that?”

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But yeah, I could go Itlepip.

DEB has a tendency to bus scum buddies silly billy and go “but why would I do that?”

Meant to continue

So I have a little pause with itlpip, but he claimed Mason with SS, and there’s some weird ignoring going on withit

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He definitely claimed mason.

SS was being weird and not responding to it too.

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Although I will concede that it would totally be a scum-me play to tell you I didn't think mastina was mason and then secretly kill her...

I STILL can't see where you got that from and I think it was just a fluke.

I’m that good.

I think it’s funnier if you’re scum who thought I was wrong about them being masons, so you killed her to bring up that I thought she was mason so that’s why she died. Then it throws you off when they flip mason

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Hey SS can you drop some reads on this thread? You said you would reread and interested to see where you are after that

What do you mean with "on this thread"? Are you implying something?

You may get answers if you give them first honey

My answer is damn you got me I'm actually a mason with SS but I wanted him to post his reads here instead of in our private thread. I didn't want to out it but you forced me to with all that quality pressure honey.

You mean this, right? FL, you're not that daft

Okay, like...y’all know I’m ditzy af sometimes, right? I get I’m like prodigal son level of next level <jk>, but if I wasn’t ditzy and lowkey charismatically derpy funny to see me get my comeuppance level, then I’d just be a dick and no one would like me.

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Ask DEB about me in real life, he can’t stand me winning anything.

Don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing better than DEB losing a game because you can prod at him for it forever.

He’s gonna be a pretty strong scum player unexpectedly sometime, much better than his town game will be. He’s on a level where he tries to play 4d chess, and he’s really good at it, but he gets so comfortable in it, he’ll forget a little small basic thing that just has everything crumble down in an extremely pathetically comical way.

Yes, I can hyper meta dive his real life brain to like an exact T. It’s quite interesting really, and it freaks him out, which is fun.

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Oh, I have no fucking clue what he is. He’s actively putting up a wall so i cant read anything.

I take him to WIFOM City, and he fools me and enjoys the trip.

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I don’t think that it’s actually probably both on scum, but would be nice.

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Because you're not a 200 IQ gamer like me.

Ah, that’s why when you see a 300 you call them master.

It’s like when DEB sees someone who’s taller than he is. He’s 6’6” so he just bows down to anyone taller.

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If I get mislynched here look seriously at FL as scum with RCE

@RCE - Lololo

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Either scum is absolutely controlling this game or I think there’s minimum 1 probably 2 scum in (itlepip, deb)

Scum are controlling a game where a powerhouse scum member mega hydra get lynched?

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I have three abilities. None of them are all that strong.

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I’m misrepped a hell of a lot in that big post that I don’t feel like dealing with.

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Especially after Avengers died

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Nah, then I just tunneled on you. Even if I’m wrong on you, which I had already brought up that I don’t think it’s you and itlepip, doesn’t just magically change my alignment.

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To be fair, I thought it was blatantly obvious that Mastina was an actual mason this game.

She didn’t fake claim it the way she always does, and Mastina has decent kill equity anyways, but I also agree she’s got N1 equity check too

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Like, I’m not even totally confident in Menalque scum, but can we kill him

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If they knew she was mason, they knew I knew she was mason, so there wasn’t any chance of her actually having issues.

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Like, let me get something out there, I see a world where Menalque is town, but I’m not crazy for seeing him as scum, right? I feel like I’m being gaslighted.

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You might even say he’s....hatcheting you

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What is hatcheting?

Well, you know the common chainsaw attack? This is when Player A tunnels scum Player B, and Scum Player C tunnels Player A to Attack the player attacking their partner. This necessitates pushing as scum.

This become common occurrence years ago, and was basically one of the go to scum plays on site. This being said, people needed to stop chainsawing, so they transitioned over to new plays. Now, these plays have been done prior to chainsawing not being as common, but the popularity and lack of chainsawing lately made it so they are much more prominent and “disclosed”.

Hatcheting is when Scum player C continuously discredits Player A to protect Scum Player B thus making their push worthless. You chop away at their case, and not let their tree fall down before fully growing.

Seducing is when Scum Player C tries to befriend Player A to get them to move away from their partner. This is becoming more common now that Hatcheting is catching people. I have a harder time catching this.

Slingshotting is when Town Player D realizes Player A is town, and credits them enough to let them fly and gain momentum.

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@Menalque - I have a tendency to tunnel at least once into a mislynch every town game of mine.

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I just rocked Penguin’s socks off in a recent one and we had one of the biggest 1v1 TvT tunnels I’ve seen in a while.

I got mislynched Day 6 in 5p lylo.

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@RCE - should we just kill itlepip?

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I’ll toss you my finger

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So like these are the 3 correct wagons for the day, but the fact that’s all the wagons mean scum’s likely okay with that as the 3 wagons.

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V/LA until the 8th

And then there’s this

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Probably means we’re wrong somewhere

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Probably means we’re wrong somewhere

So you think all of Menalque, itlepip, Deb can be town?

Idk. Probably not.

I’m just confused to how Avengers was so obviously scum based on game state and play. Who would the partners be to not give Avengers any support? Like they had some.

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For what it’s worth, I did a 3 of 5 solve here on Day 2, and we lost on Day 6, so the one of stuff is kind of my BnB.

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So she said what’s the problem baby

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What’s the problem i don’t know

Well maybe I’m in love (love)

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Think about it everytime i think about it

Can’t stop thinking bout it

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Makes me want to turn around and face me but I don't know nothing 'bout love

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It’s decided. We lynch in Menalque and The Debbie down dog

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Doggie*

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Cuz I’m EVERYWHERE to you...

And when you close your eyes it’s me you see.

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Baby i light up your world like nobody else

The way that i flip my hair gets you overwhelmed

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Do they think that walls can hide you

Even now I’m at your window

I am in the dark beside you

(Hey, some lyrics don’t even need to change :shrug:)

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VLA around 5 days. I’ll be here, maybe not too mentally, maybe so, but there’s a chance I disappear.

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Still VLA, thought I’d be at least able to catch up a little during, but nah. I’ll try and post some tomorrow.

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I don't know anything about balance but it sounds weird, like we have only 3/4 claims and they're all related c'mon there's something weird going on

If this means anything at all...

...it means that FL is scum.

Dead serious on that.

I finally understood this. I was pondering it as Something just shading in case he’s Scumthing, but I kinda get this.

I’m really good at creating WIFOM setup spec because hunting for PR and analyzing before hand is a strong suit of mine, so as scum, I’m able to prematurely create setup spec that makes sense, and control it that way.

But this is countered because I setup spec with synergizing roles, not same roles.

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I didn’t see it, and normally I at least understand where SS is coming from.

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Idk why people are trying to setup spec and HP mechanic game like it’s a normal theme game. Drastically different

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SS and I would have much more cohesion as scum, and I feel there’s a pretty clear gap between us. I’m leaning town paranoia like on him.

Also, SS and I have gone crazy as scum together, so there hasn’t been nearly enough gambits for SS and I to be scum together.

Just my 2 cents, I’m still VLA. I feel y’all just waiting for me to return

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The fact that I don't hard scumread Boon after he's made 400 posts ought to suggest that he's town...

...but I townread literally every player other than him

Well, you’re wrong on the town reading other players.

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Also, my VLA should be over soon. Grandmother passed away recently so I hadn’t really been in the mood to play, but I’ll be back to get a grasp on this game from here. I’ll consider my VLA over.

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Menalque is natural as scum

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And your DEB reasoning is weak af considering it’s DEB.

I got hard pocketed by DEB in Vengeful that DEB’s partner thought he was blackmailing me irl.

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I cannot for the life of me get a grip on this game.

I kinda feel this is meant to be a weak push to show face that this is where SS is at, but by no means is this supposed to go through or expected, so on a mislynch, it continues to raise me up.

I also had this whole orange juice plan with SS in our neighborhood in regards to confirming to him if I was correct on my Mastina read.

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Menalque is natural as scum

Is N1938 the game you're referring to with this?

I skimmed his ISO in that game and it legit looks like a different person wrote it from here. I would not call it "natural" at all.

Hmm. I’m feeling similar vibes somehow, and I caught him real early on there too.

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I’m not like overly confident on Menalque, tbh, but other than SS, I think that’s where I’m at.

This semi implies scum are stagnating the game and not really pushing for anything hard themselves

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I also had this whole orange juice plan with SS in our neighborhood in regards to confirming to him if I was correct on my Mastina read.

This is true, but how's it relevant right now?

Idk. I’m so behind on this game, I’m just talking to talk and get this game moving.

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Nah, jibril’s obvtown.

She isn’t trying to pocket me enough to be scum.