Mini 2090 CYS: AtmosFEAR of Terrors

[Katsuki]

cumstains on shirt mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[implosion]

If I think a 3p has been towny I'll call em town and leave them alive for now.

I just.
Did you read the town win condition??? Do you think sky might be town fake claiming third party???????
leaving alive for now, sure, but why are you refusing to acknowledge that sky is useless to the town by virtue of *DEFINITELY* not being town, and therefore useless to call town??

If I was scum people would be townreading me because scum is stupidly easy to play at the moment.

Yep, because 100% of the town townread you the entire game in mlp....... your scum game is so magically good that people automatically townread you, and your town game is in contrast so bad that half of this game is scumreading you.

It's really frustrating to hear you arguing this way. I want you to engage with the thread if you're town, Maria. We only have so many town-aligned players in this game, given that there are certainly multiple third parties and multiple groupscum, and we need to find six of them to win. And town reading sky gazer is useless, because we KNOW that she can't be part of that coalition. If you're town, are you going to be part of that coalition? Because you need to step up your game if you plan to be.

The "scum isn't fun right now" arguments are all well and good but literally everyone purporting to be town is going to be making some kind of argument like that and I honestly don't buy them from you above other people.

[implosion]

Like I have no issue with leaving sky alive but I feel like you're just being obstinate for the sake of being obstinate, and you're refusing to make yourself sortable beyond "I wouldn't pick scum".

Please, work with me, or with other people if you don't want to work with me.

[kuribo]

cumstains on shirt mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Listen it was paint


I've been telling you that for twelve years now

[kuribo]

You call that an insult?

I said you're not paying attention, which is fact

I said you're playing badly which is fact, and will become evident when the game is over

you really think any of this ranks anywhere on the Kuribo insult scale of rage? Lmao

need some proper kuribo rage in here

MS too pussy nowadays

Something something inbred pig fucker mumble mumble steal soul eat ancestors blah blah when you get to hell and so on and so on in nomine Satanas etc

[MariaR]

I just.
Did you read the town win condition??? Do you think sky might be town fake claiming third party???????
leaving alive for now, sure, but why are you refusing to acknowledge that sky is useless to the town by virtue of *DEFINITELY* not being town, and therefore useless to call town??

Do you see me trying to get Sky a key? No, I understand she’s third party but her play has been towny so I am fine leaving her alive. I don’t why this is such a big issue if I call her towny or not when we know she’s a third party. What, should I said ‘Towny third party’ instead of just Town?

Yep, because 100% of the town townread you the entire game in mlp....... your scum game is so magically good that people automatically townread you, and your town game is in contrast so bad that half of this game is scumreading you.

Why are you trying to state exaggerations for no reason? See, this is where I have an issue with what you’re saying. Because I am clearly not implying half of what you’re saying yet you get to this point how?
When I’m town people start to scumread me period. That’s just how it works because people can’t read me. Not all of MLP was townreading me so what? A lot of people were even when I was getting bussed to hell by both of you. I haven’t lost a scumgame in ages because it’s just that simple. It’s boring. Not a challenge. You get the idea

It's really frustrating to hear you arguing this way. I want you to engage with the thread if you're town, Maria

What am I suppose to be engaging with exactly? No one has stated reasoning why I’m scum. It’s just ‘yeah I’d get rid of Maria’ Why? Because I’m not towny? What exactly should I be saying in this example. ‘No guys I’m town’ I really want to know what you think I should be doing here. I’m arguing the way I am because it’s the only way I’m allowed to when no one gives me room to work with.

If you're town, are you going to be part of that coalition? Because you need to step up your game if you plan to be.

When I saw the town wincon I laughed at LLD because getting people to trust me enough to have a key would be hard enough considering who I am. I didn’t expect it to be like this so I had to change my style. I don’t think I could do anything to get a key so I’m lynching my scumreads until I die. If I get a key great. But I’m not expecting it. I don’t need to step anything up. It’s not my job. I’ll let my actions speak for me

The "scum isn't fun right now" arguments are all well and good but literally everyone purporting to be town is going to be making some kind of argument like that and I honestly don't buy them from you above other people.

You do know I made this exact statement in how I hate scum 2 games ago correct? Do you think I would pick scum for an easy win yet hate playing the game? Is that what you think I’d do? That’s a question by the way I’m really curious.

I feel like you're just being obstinate for the sake of being obstinate, and you're refusing to make yourself sortable beyond "I wouldn't pick scum".

This isn’t even happening nor is it true. You can’t sort me because you can’t read my slot yet you’re trying to make it out like you’re trying. No, no one here has tried so please don’t give me that line. I'm willing to work with people but no one has given me that option

[kuribo]

Third Party members are not Town for the purposes of the town wincon. This is a flipless game, so all you will be told is that no win conditions have been met.

The point he's making is that third parties have to be banished at or before endgame for town to win

Which is why calling Sky town is meaningless

Which is why I've said all along I expect to be banished at some point



What will really bake y'alls noodles is this: The Black Key causes it's holder to lose regardless of their faction's victory status

Someone at the circle of trust WILL be holding it when the game ends, since you cannot destroy keys and must will them on death and the sacrifice will be made

My black key is poison to all, and I'd suggest people start considering it more seriously

[implosion]

Why are you trying to state exaggerations for no reason?

Because I'm frustrated with your play.

No one has stated reasoning why I’m scum.

I've given a couple of salient points, namely your activity pattern feeling identical to mlp (weak, yes, but there) and 521. To add to them: it feels like you've made zero effort to further the town win condition, which is to build a coalition. You say you've adopted this new style, but it doesn't seem like a style especially well suited to this game, and playing the game of "I know I'm not going to get a key but I can bring scum reads down with me" doesn't seem like a way town *ought* to approach this setup, given we need six of us. Banishing scum reads doesn't even necessarily help us at all if those players weren't going to get keys in the first place. Like,

What am I suppose to be engaging with exactly? No one has stated reasoning why I’m scum.

This is bunk. You can try to publicly sort people. You can make an effort to have dialogue with your town reads. You can say who you want your coalition to be, and argue for those other people being in it, particularly people that you're town reading that others are scum reading (like presumably sky gazer before she claimed 3p).

You do know I made this exact statement in how I hate scum 2 games ago correct?

Do you think I would pick scum for an easy win yet hate playing the game? Is that what you think I’d do? That’s a question by the way I’m really curious.

the bolded is not something I know and I'm not sure why you think I do? Was it a statement in mlp?

I don't think you would pick it for an easy win, I think you either went third party > scum > town because you wanted third party but didn't feel like playing town in the game, or you felt more like playing scum than town, etc. If you have talked publicly and recently about finding scum not fun then that'd be useful information. Or maybe you were given third party and got one that's motivated to claim town instead of outing itself as kuribo and sky have. Maybe you specifically wanted to be scum in this player list because you thought it would be a more interesting challenge. Maybe you have other reasons for picking scum that I don't have the requisite knowledge to figure out. Or maybe even everyone put town above scum and you drew the short straw! I don't know. But it does not suffice on its own as an argument for you being town, even if it is evidence.

I’ll let my actions speak for me

Great. I'll be waiting for more of them than just a kuribo vote.

[GreyICE]

Alisae, now that we have two claimed key cops, details on your miller ability please. Exactly how does it work, as close to exact phrasing as you can get.

Preferably ASAP since the mod is at a meet, and the faster you answer the less likely I think it is to be checking things with her.

[Katsuki]

You call that an insult?

I said you're not paying attention, which is fact

I said you're playing badly which is fact, and will become evident when the game is over

you really think any of this ranks anywhere on the Kuribo insult scale of rage? Lmao

need some proper kuribo rage in here

MS too pussy nowadays

Something something inbred pig fucker mumble mumble steal soul eat ancestors blah blah when you get to hell and so on and so on in nomine Satanas etc

oh come now your flame was far more intense than that

tho in ms2019 youd get sitebanned for sure

[Alisae]

Alisae, now that we have two claimed key cops, details on your miller ability please. Exactly how does it work, as close to exact phrasing as you can get.

Preferably ASAP since the mod is at a meet, and the faster you answer the less likely I think it is to be checking things with her.

I appear as scum to all investigation checks

[Alisae]

in fact I don't mind claiming the ability name for it which is Yokai Heritage

[hebichan]

I mean, you can call my posts "non-impactful" all you want but I set up a team for the key game and it worked out well, getting a second key on a a townread of mine and banishing someone the town thought was off.

I'm not focusing on the lynch too hard because I know it's barely related to our win condition.

[GreyICE]

What will really bake y'alls noodles is this: The Black Key causes it's holder to lose regardless of their faction's victory status

Someone at the circle of trust WILL be holding it when the game ends, since you cannot destroy keys and must will them on death and the sacrifice will be made

My black key is poison to all, and I'd suggest people start considering it more seriously

Okay, here's the thing. This is going to sound bad, so I'll just say it once. IDC. What you're describing is a game of hot potato. This is a game of mafia. Mafia is a more interesting game than hot potato. If the endgame becomes hot potato... oh well. Fuck it. I'll play hot potato. But for now I'll play mafia. I won't volunteer to take it, because that's literally playing against my win condition, which can get you site banned (not that it would unless zoraster is an even bigger weenie than I know he is, but w/e). Am I going to discuss a game of hot potato? No. Is anyone else? No. We're happy that way.

[GreyICE]

Mmm, the Alisae thing sounds fairly legit, although there's a chance she ran it by LLD or winged it. What makes me wonder is if we have a cop in this game. No, don't tell me if it's you, I don't want to know yet (although christ I hope you breadcrumbed the results somewhere if you can somehow be killed) but 5 investigations when we have a 6 person circle of trust is... a lot. And I think we're fairly confident if there is a scum kill it's not every 12 day phase at this point (unless they shot Gamma Emerald and that was the flavor we got for "shot by scum"? Seems unlikely)

Mmm, although

Even that is a bit fishy given literally no one has shaded GE all game.

Honestly I'm interested in this myself

Huh, fuck he might have been shot by scum.

Why would I, if I were scum, have to lynch you?

because I've spent twelve years tearing bad scum like yourself to pieces

Every time we lynch someone and banish them, scum can banish a person they choose. Which is a good reason to get the keys as fast as possible and then to open the Well of Fears; unless, of course, the keyholders are untrustworthy.

Pine has been banished on Time Code 58.

Gamma Emerald has been banished on Time code 57.

oh boy. oh boy I might have been extremely wrong

Vote: Not Known 15

[kuribo]

I won't volunteer to take it, because that's literally playing against my win condition, which can get you site banned (not that it would unless zoraster is an even bigger weenie than I know he is, but w/e).

Yes but you'd be playing to my win condition which I would greatly appreciate

[Katsuki]

unless zoraster is an even bigger weenie than I know he is

he's already a gigantic weenie so youll need some exceptional imagination for said desired size

[Katsuki]

Like, these all seem like successes. I should be feeling only more and more pleased with the gamestate! But instead I'm getting paranoid that we're on the completely wrong track.

No flip games are hard. It's super easy to get apathetic with the lack of information from flips.

[Katsuki]

I won't volunteer to take it, because that's literally playing against my win condition, which can get you site banned (not that it would unless zoraster is an even bigger weenie than I know he is, but w/e).

Yes but you'd be playing to my win condition which I would greatly appreciate

Can;t we just give it to one of the mystery horsemen and you spare me?

[GreyICE]

Like, these all seem like successes. I should be feeling only more and more pleased with the gamestate! But instead I'm getting paranoid that we're on the completely wrong track.

No flip games are hard. It's super easy to get apathetic with the lack of information from flips.

Yeah, I apologize. I told Lexi I hate no-flip games, and well, here we are.

[Alisae]

Like, these all seem like successes. I should be feeling only more and more pleased with the gamestate! But instead I'm getting paranoid that we're on the completely wrong track.

No flip games are hard. It's super easy to get apathetic with the lack of information from flips.

Yeah, I apologize. I told Lexi I hate no-flip games, and well, here we are.

No flip games suck

[Katsuki]

Like, these all seem like successes. I should be feeling only more and more pleased with the gamestate! But instead I'm getting paranoid that we're on the completely wrong track.

No flip games are hard. It's super easy to get apathetic with the lack of information from flips.

Yeah, I apologize. I told Lexi I hate no-flip games, and well, here we are.

So it's all your fault, thanks!

[Alisae]

I feel like that should be a lynchable offense

[Katsuki]

lol

[GreyICE]

If you lynched me for that, it'd come up for at least five years. "You remember that time katsuki and alisae lynched you just to appease me in the hopes of avoiding more trolling?"

Damn I'm really not selling my own survival here am I