Mini 2090 CYS: AtmosFEAR of Terrors

[Katsuki]

It'd be hilarity if we lollynched you.

I'm almost tempted to do so just so that we can revisit this moment five years down the line.

[kuribo]

I'll help cause I'm bored and all I ask in return is that you throw the game to me with the black key

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote Count

47

NK15-(3) Alisae, Katsuki, GreyICE
Kuribo (1)- MariaR

Not Voting (6) Hebichan, Plum, Kuribo, NK15, Implosion,Skygazer,

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to Banish

[GreyICE]

Y'know I'm practically positive your intended behavior should be to play super townie and just agree with lynches on everyone that isn't one of your horsemen, then "scumslip" on day 5 so none of them get lynched either, but this is WAY more helpful to the town than that. So I'm going to commend you.

Anyway, NK15 knows the mechanics of the scumkill and that GE was a scumkill, lets just lynch him.

[kuribo]

Y'know I'm practically positive your intended behavior should be to play super townie and just agree with lynches on everyone that isn't one of your horsemen, then "scumslip" on day 5 so none of them get lynched either, but this is WAY more helpful to the town than that. So I'm going to commend you.

It's okay I know what I'm doing

[GreyICE]

If you picked me, no ya don't. My face is a goddamn bullet catcher. I've honestly been shot more times in mafia games than anyone outside of maybe Fate or Magna.

But I honestly believe you picked 3rd party (unlike Skygazer, who I'm not sure about) so I'm chill about the whole thing. If I lose hot potato in "The Well of Fears" this game will have ended exactly as ridiculously as every AtmosFEAR game I ever played.

[kuribo]

If you picked me, no ya don't. My face is a goddamn bullet catcher. I've honestly been shot more times in mafia games than anyone outside of maybe Fate or Magna.

But I honestly believe you picked 3rd party (unlike Skygazer, who I'm not sure about) so I'm chill about the whole thing. If I lose hot potato in "The Well of Fears" this game will have ended exactly as ridiculously as every AtmosFEAR game I ever played.

Well then in that case I STRONGLY SUGGEST you don't lose hot potato

[implosion]

FYI for all I'm v/la this week (not actually limited access but on vacation and might have some days of being very lazy but will probably have normal activity the entire time) and then *actually* v/la come Friday for Bostonmeet.

I agree w/ greyice's malaise about kuribo I just haven't said it out loud because it's malaise

I have found his musings amusing but don't care about them at a gameplay level

[GreyICE]

You could join the NK15 wagon, if you're going to be on vacation for a week in a real time game.

[Katsuki]

Almost tempted to kms just so I don't have to deal with black key

[implosion]

I don't want to join the nk wagon bc I've been pretty explicit about having no desire to banish him?

Like I don't think I've been unclear about that at any point.

I don't really have any motivation to use my vote tbh for the same reason hebichan said, banishment isn't clearly part of how we win.

[kuribo]

Almost tempted to kms just so I don't have to deal with black key

Now you're thinking with portals

[GreyICE]

imo we should eschew normal scumhunting completely, and instead *exclusively* discuss what order we think people put things in and the implications thereof.

For instance, kuribo is probably lying about putting scum as his third choice, but is nonetheless town who ordered his picks as town > scum > third party.

Hey Implosion, what choices do you think different people put in?

[Katsuki]

I mean, it's not like my wincon requires me to be alive, so I'd have a better chance winning dead than alive.

[implosion]

imo we should eschew normal scumhunting completely, and instead *exclusively* discuss what order we think people put things in and the implications thereof.

For instance, kuribo is probably lying about putting scum as his third choice, but is nonetheless town who ordered his picks as town > scum > third party.

Hey Implosion, what choices do you think different people put in?

Idk strongly. There isn't actually anyone in this player list that I know the preferences of well. There are some people that I decently think put town over scum but that's because I think that they're town and if someone put scum over town and was forced into town they'd probably have claimed it because of the implications.

Why?

[Alisae]

Y'know I'm practically positive your intended behavior should be to play super townie and just agree with lynches on everyone that isn't one of your horsemen, then "scumslip" on day 5 so none of them get lynched either, but this is WAY more helpful to the town than that. So I'm going to commend you.

Anyway, NK15 knows the mechanics of the scumkill and that GE was a scumkill, lets just lynch him.

you do realize that Kuribo knows how his role works and what he told us may not exactly match up with what he actually does right?

[kuribo]

I mean, it's not like my wincon requires me to be alive, so I'd have a better chance winning dead than alive.

All the more reason to help Me with mine

[Alisae]

Also GreyICE the mechanics of the scumkill are in LLD’s ruleset.
This isn’t to stop you from lynching NK64 tho, I strongly believe that town are less familiar with mechanics then scum are and that scum are more likely to understand how mechanics work

[Alisae]

Actually I have a crazy idea that just popped into my head
What if the key that scum actually need is the Black Key and Kuribo and his “horsemen” are actually scum
This probably isn’t reality but hey its an idea and I’ma just throw it out there since it came to my mind.

[kuribo]

Because the black key causes the holder to lose and is passed around differently from other keys


Also I chose my Horsemen.

[Alisae]

Because the black key causes the holder to lose and is passed around differently from other keys


Also I chose my Horsemen.

your horsemen could have some immunity they don’t know about and you could have picked the scumteam?

[Alisae]

And even if they did know, why would they tell us?
They’re scum after all

Tho this kinda makes the CYS side of the game pointless?
/shrug

[kuribo]

Because the black key causes the holder to lose and is passed around differently from other keys


Also I chose my Horsemen.

your horsemen could have some immunity they don’t know about and you could have picked the scumteam?

How do you choose immunity from a win condition


Also why would I openly name my scum partners

Also that would mean there are five of us on the scum team

[GreyICE]

imo we should eschew normal scumhunting completely, and instead *exclusively* discuss what order we think people put things in and the implications thereof.

For instance, kuribo is probably lying about putting scum as his third choice, but is nonetheless town who ordered his picks as town > scum > third party.

Hey Implosion, what choices do you think different people put in?

Idk strongly. There isn't actually anyone in this player list that I know the preferences of well. There are some people that I decently think put town over scum but that's because I think that they're town and if someone put scum over town and was forced into town they'd probably have claimed it because of the implications.

Why?

Well you said you don't think lynching is that important, and you said you don't think voting is that important, and you said the most important thing is figuring out everyone's preference list, but you don't seem to have any thoughts on that. And you have a few thoughts, but they seem to be gut/irrelevant. And you're going VLA for a week.

So when I think "how is Implosion thinking about the game" I get a bunch of setup spec and nothing I could use to actually sort the game out as town. And that? That makes me want to lynch Implosion.

[Alisae]

Because the black key causes the holder to lose and is passed around differently from other keys


Also I chose my Horsemen.

your horsemen could have some immunity they don’t know about and you could have picked the scumteam?

How do you choose immunity from a win condition


Also why would I openly name my scum partners

Also that would mean there are five of us on the scum team

oh ok my theory is stupid yes i understand now ok ty

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imo we should eschew normal scumhunting completely, and instead *exclusively* discuss what order we think people put things in and the implications thereof.

For instance, kuribo is probably lying about putting scum as his third choice, but is nonetheless town who ordered his picks as town > scum > third party.

Hey Implosion, what choices do you think different people put in?

Idk strongly. There isn't actually anyone in this player list that I know the preferences of well. There are some people that I decently think put town over scum but that's because I think that they're town and if someone put scum over town and was forced into town they'd probably have claimed it because of the implications.

Why?

Well you said you don't think lynching is that important, and you said you don't think voting is that important, and you said the most important thing is figuring out everyone's preference list, but you don't seem to have any thoughts on that. And you have a few thoughts, but they seem to be gut/irrelevant. And you're going VLA for a week.

So when I think "how is Implosion thinking about the game" I get a bunch of setup spec and nothing I could use to actually sort the game out as town. And that? That makes me want to lynch Implosion.

Man, if only we had flips, that way we could read the gamestate better. If we had flips I would be on board with this maybe?
I’ll look into it more ig from an ISO dive eventually