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Post #67 (isolation #1) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:26 am
Postby Commie Catgirl Coalition »
gonna be blunt i dont see how any of this is actually productive
can we just have rc/shoshin not interact until they townread each other early on or if later in the day there's still scumreads there resolve it then? i think it's entirely likely shoshin or rc could be scum here but if the day is going to turn into rc/shoshin i'd rather delay that for once i have a handle on everyone else :/
ftr i think this is probably a svt interaction just a very inevitably annoying one that could easily turn -ev
RadiantCowbells wrote:Does anyone disagree with me that it should be obvious from Shoshins point of view that my push on her is in good faith because knee jerk calling me scum without it being an emotional overreaction seems so, so out of place to me.
yes and i feel like i'd only ever agree with that take if i had any sort of a handle of shoshin's personality as scum v town
sorry i can see that this is going to be unpleasant for everyone from a mile away? if you're town i think you're right but im never going to figure out you're town from this
sorry i can see that this is going to be unpleasant for everyone from a mile away? if you're town i think you're right but im never going to figure out you're town from this
YOUR INABILITY TO READ ME IS NOT MY PROBLEM
whatever
i probably wasnt even going to enjoy this game in the first place
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Post #124 (isolation #8) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:19 am
Postby Commie Catgirl Coalition »
In post 123, RadiantCowbells wrote:Katyusha simultaneously said that we were SvT (profiteering off of our spat assuming that you are in fact town but also probably bad if you aren't) then told us to stop yelling at each other. Not only that but the stuff that giggles said was about 'reading me correctly' and idk. On a simple level it makes sense as scum trying to have their cake and eat it too by calling us SvT and trying to look Towny for splitting up a TvT but on a deeper level I just don't think that's what Katy would say to me in that situation.
i've seen games that start with a d1 scum lynch but the game collapses afterwards and that's the direction i felt that the game would go if shoshin or you was lynched and flipped scum, no one wants to read or parse your interaction there (at least i don't) so if we want to prevent that from happening i'd rather hear from people that i can actually read and go from there considering this is a micro. i didn't say to stop fighting, i said to stop for now and revisit it when i feel that there's more to the game than you guys arguing. if i were trying to split up a tvt i wouldn't fucking say "this is scum v scum but let's revisit it later" because, you know, people would expect me to follow up on that
you're clearly demonstrating that you actually dont know how to read me as well as you think you do which i've pointed out to you multiple times
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Post #125 (isolation #9) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:20 am
Postby Commie Catgirl Coalition »
oversoul's questions make perfect sense from a town perspective and i'm struggling to see why you think theyre specifically "safe" questions scum would ask.
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Post #132 (isolation #10) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:25 am
Postby Commie Catgirl Coalition »
In post 126, RadiantCowbells wrote:I think she'd have engaged me about it rather than talking about ~the gamestate~.
you think wrong then? i only would if i thought shoshin was likely town when im not even sure about that. the play from my perspective is to just wait for dunn and schadd to post since the former is a free read and schadd is likely to help me steer the game in a better direction, then once i have a handle on that i look into you/shoshin through poe
RadiantCowbells wrote:I barely know you as a mafia player anymore
That response doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me
you just said that you knew me better than shoshin, i assumed that meant in mafia
RadiantCowbells wrote:I feel like someone should be able to back me up that they've seen scum react to big spats in the same way that Oversoul did, by asking questions that don't directly solve the situation?
Why is this game so fucking weird about me
it *happens* but i dont have a reason to feel that that's more likely to me, like i see where he was coming from in terms of when he asked those questions and why
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Post #142 (isolation #12) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:33 am
Postby Commie Catgirl Coalition »
i dont think i changed much as a mafia player aside from being a lot more jaded about the game in general and flaking more often as a result, i basically only join games because people ask me to and i dont like turning people down
since this is a hydra im probably going to put more effort into sticking around but still, i cant tryhard the way i used to
Shoshin wrote:
In post 129, RadiantCowbells wrote:I feel like someone should be able to back me up that they've seen scum react to big spats in the same way that Oversoul did, by asking questions that don't directly solve the situation?
I've seen town do it too so I dunno this seems like a bad reason to vote Oversoul.
right this is what i'm getting at: is there something about the context that makes it more likely scum playing it safe rather than town legitimately just wanting to get those answers? because i dont see it yet
also since someone is inevitably going to ask i said rc/shoshin was only likely svt because i'd assume that if they were as confident as i'm reading them the town one is probably correct - there's nothing about that interaction that really makes it *not* tvt but i'd rather like, just understand the game's baseline which i dont really yet
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Post #144 (isolation #13) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:34 am
Postby Commie Catgirl Coalition »
In post 141, RadiantCowbells wrote:I think that you and Katy are being weird about me in a way that I'm finding it impossible to stay meaningfully.
idk i wish there was more i can say to articulate what im feeling, you have every right to be baffled by me saying "svt but let's ignore it" but i really think it's the correct way to approach it right now
Flubbernugget wrote:Cops shouldn't make it to lylo on principle. Why is this different?
what if the mafia fail to shoot the public cop twice and the cop didn't claim...? thats not the fault of the town so i dont get what you're putting down here
there was your upick and also that thinkbig micro that was immediately after where i was like basically nonfunctional irl and i think deeply impacted all of my games (which were both scumgames so :L), i dont think ti really mattered anyway because the setup was autoloss but w/e viewtopic.php?f=84&t=72576
the alisae upick i wasnt trying in because transcend already scumclaimed and we planned for my slot to get bussed the next day viewtopic.php?f=56&t=75168
and then there's the game on grendel's forum where i was with nancy and ginngie but i cant find the link for the life of me btu that was the only scum game ive played that i can recall where ive played competently and at my best but it was like, my second game, so if i roll scum and am not utterly suicidal it would probably look different
Dunnstral wrote:
In post 297, Oversoul wrote:Mediocre players ask mediocre questions ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post #311 (isolation #23) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:01 pm
Postby Commie Catgirl Coalition »
it's more of a niche culture thing than a hip thing, i wouldn't worry about it
pedit: i mean, yeah, thats what i figured he meant by safe. i dont really know what hard hitting questions really could be asked in that situation, especially as early game as it is right now
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Post #428 (isolation #28) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:36 pm
Postby Commie Catgirl Coalition »
In post 403, schadd_ wrote:
just a thought.... the last time dunnie and purrcocet were scum together they got bopped so if we get 2 red lynches early on we should consider that team......
In other news Katys dumb lowercase letters gets us scumread
In post 586, Flubbernugget wrote:Dunn isn't a solid vote. He's not even someone you'd vote apparently
Dunn's at the top of my suspect list. He's playing exactly like he did in another game where he was scum, making some setup comments, saying nothing about alignments.
yeah i'm starting to come around on this
VOTE: dunnstral
my initial take was him being jokey = him being townie which is *usually* true but it usually comes with the stipulation he's actually doing things with it
why are you scumreading zulfy dunn? i didnt really get that vote when i saw it
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Post #666 (isolation #40) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:25 pm
Postby Commie Catgirl Coalition »
anyway
soshin is obvtown, i think raybells being comically wrong on me is not how he'd approach having me as a ml as scum considering i played in a game vs scum him where he specifically planned on ml'ing me, schadd is mindsyncing but fwiw i dont super strongtownread his content, i think oversoul's just kind of... leantown? like what he's saying makes sense and feels like its heart is in the right place for the most part
out of the leftovers dunn i think is the person that i'd get the most mileage out of voting, flubber i think is a good pick for cop because he tends to get misread often. im with purr that luv/zulfy are like dsajf;ldkfjal;da;dlfsja;dfjalsdkjf reads that i dont really know how to approach in general
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Post #673 (isolation #45) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:49 pm
Postby Commie Catgirl Coalition »
i like cant imagine you thinking putting someone to l-1 just because you wanted to put someone to l-1 is scummy, much the same like i dont believe you think i wouldn't say -ev
but at least on the second one i knew you were joking
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Post #688 (isolation #54) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:06 pm
Postby Commie Catgirl Coalition »
In post 674, Dunnstral wrote:Right now I'm more inclined to believe that you're scum who saw an opportunity to get me lynched rather than town reconsidering something, I do think you were a bit quick to call me town this game
???
and i know you *can* be good as scum, i've read hunger games among others back in the day
this just doesnt seem like town you. if you're town and weird i'll see through it but like......... there's a lot to pick at here
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Post #691 (isolation #55) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:09 pm
Postby Commie Catgirl Coalition »
that's fundamentally untrue but whatever this'll be like the 50th time we've fought about it
Dunnstral wrote:
In post 688, Commie Catgirl Coalition wrote:this just doesnt seem like town you. if you're town and weird i'll see through it but like......... there's a lot to pick at here
I wasn't very motivated to post in this game
Early on there wasn't a lot of reads stuff to talk about
i mean that's fair? but your zulfy read seems super tonedeaf to me and not something you would think of naturally
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Post #704 (isolation #58) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:26 pm
Postby Commie Catgirl Coalition »
... no
have you really never just l-1'd someone for the sake of doing it? that really seems like something you'd do if you felt there was a reaction or something useful to get out of it which is why i find this whole interaction in general baffling