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Post Post #194 (isolation #0) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:46 pm

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Going to give y'all a catch-up at some point soon.
I like that I'm an IC; I get to suck at playing town but still get NK'ed.
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Post Post #207 (isolation #1) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:04 am

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Keep in mind please that this is a read-then-react based catch-up.
Spoiler: Catchup
Persivul is kind of pissing me off as of and .
Just... seriously, man?

The tone I'm imagining for JB right now in is annoying me though.

is... borderline stupid or scummy. People talk to try and get others to talk so they can try and get a hold on the other's alignment.

does look opportunistic a bit though. A tiny bit. Tiny.

JB, you are a tiny bit ridiculous in your wording; 'classic logic' kind of makes me laugh. But the logic is sound in .

Feeling town!Gamma so far on tone as of and previously.

Not sure what to make of implosion.
I do agree with overall, though. Not sure about Jackal.

Don't agree with necessarily, especially about 62-64 - it's a wee bit posture-y to me. But then, town do posture too.

What's up with ? Isn't Skellen conf!town as an IC?
I do agree with the Persivul-James interaction commnent though. Persivul-James ain't SvS.

Is a pocket?
...Probably not; not sure what it is though.

Ah, no is telling me that Persivul reads modposts and no one else does.

Still not sure what to make of implosion; . NAI right now.

Also not sure what Phill is doing.

To be honest I think I might have argued the same in Phill's position as regards the whole RVS argument.

I like tonewise.
JB is probably town, I reckon.

What even is .

NAI, that's what it is.

But I like the thoughts (underexplained as they are) of .

In my experience, scum tend to give excuses for not posting far more often than town, as town don't feel as much pressure to post. See .

I can accept .

Is chemist tunneling in ? Nah.

... a bit off?

implosion feels kind of solid; kind of honest in ... but I've been told that that's mostly NAI, so.

Liking JB more as town; and .

Disagreeing with. Also, it is nothing as a post.

I can see his point in though.

I like in tone; just a bit.

Arcfield's ISO is absolute rubbish so far, see for a prime example.
They're not even V/LA.

I like 's thoughts.

I like the use of objective in . Man, JB, please be a wee bit less sure of yourself.

Liking Persivul more and more as of these last few.
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Post Post #245 (isolation #2) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:43 pm

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In post 244, Chemist1422 wrote:I don't think Thespio's ISO justifies this flash wagon

It's not good but nothing worse than nullscum on their last post
+1 on this.
I like how everyone has ignored me so far.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #3) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:44 pm

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In post 236, James Brafin wrote:
In post 235, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 228, James Brafin wrote:Didn't say it did. I'm asking a question. Is there any way that it comes from a town mindset? How is this a town-aligned way to approach the game?
I don't understand why evidence has to be presented to indicate such things. Right now if you want to call that approach scummy then the burden if proof is on you. Because Drew is right: if you want to assert it isn't a town mindset you must assert it is a scum mindset, there is no other option.
Fair enough.
I guess the way I see it, town is't looking to make other players slip up. Town is looking to see if scum slips up. conversely, scum wants to get another player to slip up so they can then argue for scum!player.
Basically, town observes it and scum instigates it.
I think town should pressure people to reveal their worldview and how it's applied to the game, though; scum have a drastically different view to the game than town but they won't show that unless you make them.
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Post Post #252 (isolation #4) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:49 pm

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Aye I feel like it’s not all that AI.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #5) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:34 pm

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In post 263, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 262, James Brafin wrote:
In post 151, Thespio wrote:So Phillammom, you seem odd... your ISO isnt the best
I believe that to a number of people (including me) this was an attempt at shade and to create a reason to get on this wagon, which was the leading wagon but had very little foundation.
I could see it in that manner but imo it could just as easily be a setup for questioning, only reason to think it wasn't is that there was no followup but they haven't posted since then.
Aye, if they don't follow up on it then scumread them, but for now I'm pretty sure it's NAI.
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Post Post #289 (isolation #6) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:37 pm

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In post 154, Phillammon wrote:Thespio, howso?

VOTE: Sakura Hara strikes me as scummiest at the moment, but it's not a huge lean.
What about them "strikes you"?
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Post Post #294 (isolation #7) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:26 pm

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In post 293, Sakura Hana wrote:I always share reads as I get them, if i havent shared any reads on someone either i dont have any or they werent that memorable.
So, Sakura, no read on me yet?
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Post Post #295 (isolation #8) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:26 pm

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In post 292, Phillammon wrote:No. I'd rather you share any reads that have developed naturally, and I think that the fact you haven't developed, or at least shared, reads on several players really weird, particularly given your calls for noise. Persivul in particular is conspicuous in their absence* from your ISO, for example. (Which reminds me, haven't shared my feelings on them yet- was looking a bit scummy, but 214 forward give a really townish impression)

*well. aside from quoting one line of theirs in relation to thespio
What did you find scummy about their earliest posts; which ones in particular did you dislike?
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Post Post #298 (isolation #9) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:30 pm

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In post 297, Phillammon wrote:Honestly the entire clumsy "baiting" thing with James rubbed me the wrong way. I get why trying to elicit an emotional response is useful for scumhunting, but it was... almost performatively transparent.
Aye, and toxicity (much less intentional toxicity) is not really the way to get engage with a game,
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Post Post #299 (isolation #10) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:32 pm

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In post 296, Phillammon wrote:199 through 201 and to a lesser extent 58, though on reflection I may just be disliking the former because they're pointed at me and I feel they're unfair. 199 I responded to as such at the time.
Expand on your thoughts on 201, please — I just felt like that was someone doing a meta-read on someone else.
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Post Post #301 (isolation #11) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:43 pm

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Personally Phill feels town to me. I’ve liked their interactions with me as conf!town and they have felt genuine to me so far.
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Post Post #333 (isolation #12) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:54 pm

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In post 332, Elastic Plastic wrote:I don't really like Chem's unvote the more I think about it.
Why not?
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Post Post #479 (isolation #13) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:56 pm

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In post 477, Elastic Plastic wrote:Huzzah! The fish is town!
Methinkst the fish is town, even though I cannot fully understand his reads.
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Post Post #492 (isolation #14) » Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:27 pm

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In post 489, Phillammon wrote:
In post 376, Formerfish wrote:
In post 45, Phillammon wrote:Sakura leaning scum, you leaning town, brafin was leaning scum til I did a meta search at which point it became "null but learn more"
Why is Hana scumlean for you? And you voted JB after you did the meta search which led you to a null read on him?

Why vote JB a meta null read, over Hana a scumlean for you?
(Disliking the self-awareness in the wall but liking the insights, probably town but *really* unpleasant. Going over implo in particular in more detail may be worthwhile, hadn't given much thought to that one)
What do you mean by 'the self-awareness'?
What in his posts says to you that he's self-aware?
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Post Post #587 (isolation #15) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:11 am

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In post 513, Formerfish wrote:
In post 508, Formerfish wrote: Unless...
Unless you are thinking about Imp here and got the names messed up? Cause if that was the case I could understand after seeing Imps iso and these:
In post 10, implosion wrote:VOTE: Persivul
In post 29, implosion wrote:VOTE: Phillammon
In post 47, implosion wrote:
Unvote

VOTE: Sakura Hana
In post 106, implosion wrote:VOTE: Chemist1422
In post 242, implosion wrote:VOTE: thespio
Moving out today so limited energy.
In post 316, implosion wrote:VOTE: Dry-fit
This seems new and hip
Can't vote the IC, even though he started to push there, but was stopped by Pers (I think this ties Pers to Imp a little. Like if Imp flips scum then Pers could be his buddy telling him to shut the fuck up about the IC being scum).
If Pers and Imps were scum together, why wouldn’t Pers just tell him in their PT?
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Post Post #590 (isolation #16) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:32 am

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Ah. Whoops.

After this enormous thread-battle, implosion, Phil, Pers and FF are feeling town to me.
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Post Post #632 (isolation #17) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:18 pm

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In post 605, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 590, Spangled wrote:Ah. Whoops.

After this enormous thread-battle, implosion, Phil, Pers and FF are feeling town to me.
Who is your scumpool rn?
I am bad at forming scumreads, above all — but right now, Chemist feels a bit sketchy to me; if I looked through his ISO I don’t think I’d find a single helpful post. Doctor Drew I’d have to go back and look at, I think.
However, I feel like scum, whoever they are, are willing to just let FF and implo battle it out and then support one of those mislynches as we get closer to the deadline (probably implo).
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Post Post #634 (isolation #18) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:52 pm

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In post 633, implosion wrote:I don’t think anyone is advocating to lynch formerfish?
Like I said, probably you.
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Post Post #635 (isolation #19) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:53 pm

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In post 634, Spangled wrote:
In post 633, implosion wrote:I don’t think anyone is advocating to lynch formerfish?
Like I said, probably you.
EBWOP: who is going to get lynched out of the two of you.
However, I’m feeling you more strongly as town than FF, for sure.
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Post Post #638 (isolation #20) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:25 pm

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In post 637, Formerfish wrote:And not the bottom 6 like total, like the people who are still in this game but haven't posted on 10hrs or more.
Yes, the worst really has to get posting. Super scummy at the moment :lol:
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Post Post #639 (isolation #21) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:27 pm

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But yeah, that would be nice.
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Post Post #640 (isolation #22) » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:19 pm

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This game is going slow.
Dry-fit, Sakura, Drew — what do all of you feel about FF’s catch-up and FF and implosion’s battling?
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Post Post #695 (isolation #23) » Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:50 am

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In post 644, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 635, Spangled wrote:
In post 634, Spangled wrote:
In post 633, implosion wrote:I don’t think anyone is advocating to lynch formerfish?
Like I said, probably you.
EBWOP: who is going to get lynched out of the two of you.
However, I’m feeling you more strongly as town than FF, for sure.
Why
Mostly mind meld; I can see where he’s coming from in this battle, and he’s had a few really quite good posts, whereas FF has just had a stream of fairly good ones.
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Post Post #834 (isolation #24) » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:59 pm

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In post 782, James Brafin wrote:
Imply is pinging me hard. It feels like most of his reads so far have been based on the fact that “scum can fake this,” which is a BS reason to read anyone for anything. By that logic, scum can fake ANYTHING, and this whole game is pointless. But maybe I’m just oblivious. Also, the need for those people to validate his reads I don’t like. It feels LAMIST.
But see, he hasn't even SRed the Fish. He's just said that Fish can't be townlocked based on his towny catchup.
And the reason most of his conversation has been based around that is because that is what the discussion has been around: that is to say, the Fish's catchup and it's towniness (or relative lack thereof, from Imp's POV).
Additionally, scum can fake certain things - but not every thing. Imp has never said that scum can fake everything, just that the things the Fish has been doing have been fakeable by clever scum.
And asking for others to look at your reads is never LAMIST, nor should it be considered so. It is trying to make discussion over things - that is to say, what town should do.
(All this defence is what I meant when I said I felt some mindmeld with Imp - I've understood where he's been coming from on pretty much all quarters).
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Post Post #835 (isolation #25) » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:02 pm

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In post 792, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 776, Thespio wrote:
In post 759, Formerfish wrote:Thespio?
Sorry been on mobile, hard to track two games at the same time!
Then your phone is shitty
What are you trying to achieve with this post?
Seriously, what is the point of this?
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Post Post #836 (isolation #26) » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:06 pm

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In post 824, James Brafin wrote: @All: Do you think tunneling is effective as town or scum, and why/why not?
As town, it depends what kind of tunneling you're talking about - blind tunneling, or backed-up tunneling. One is good, the other is not. I'll leave you to decide which is which.
As scum, I have no idea - I've never tried.
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Post Post #837 (isolation #27) » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:08 pm

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In post 821, Sakura Hana wrote:I mean doesnt that imply you think they are both scum or am i missing something.
Of course not.
It's just forming associative reads - saying that if one is scum then the other probably is doesn't necessarily mean you think they're scum.
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Post Post #838 (isolation #28) » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:09 pm

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In post 828, Formerfish wrote: People who accuse me of tunneling have a high tendency to flip scum, and tunnel is the popterm they use to discredit my read.
I think you might be tunneling Phil a little bit :P
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Post Post #842 (isolation #29) » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:25 pm

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In post 841, Sakura Hana wrote:You know. Drew's making good points.
As opposed to you, perhaps.
Could you give us your viewpoint on Thespio, and on the Turkey.
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Post Post #845 (isolation #30) » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:03 pm

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In post 834, Spangled wrote:
In post 782, James Brafin wrote:
Imply is pinging me hard. It feels like most of his reads so far have been based on the fact that “scum can fake this,” which is a BS reason to read anyone for anything. By that logic, scum can fake ANYTHING, and this whole game is pointless. But maybe I’m just oblivious. Also, the need for those people to validate his reads I don’t like. It feels LAMIST.
But see, he hasn't even SRed the Fish. He's just said that Fish can't be townlocked based on his towny catchup.
And the reason most of his conversation has been based around that is because that is what the discussion has been around: that is to say, the Fish's catchup and it's towniness (or relative lack thereof, from Imp's POV).
Additionally, scum can fake certain things - but not every thing. Imp has never said that scum can fake everything, just that the things the Fish has been doing have been fakeable by clever scum.
And asking for others to look at your reads is never LAMIST, nor should it be considered so. It is trying to make discussion over things - that is to say, what town should do.
(All this defence is what I meant when I said I felt some mindmeld with Imp - I've understood where he's been coming from on pretty much all quarters).
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Post Post #847 (isolation #31) » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:04 pm

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In post 846, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh also spangled, I dont think i make good points, I just read people.
Fair enough.
Sorry for that, though — it was an unnecessarily insulting way to make a point.
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Post Post #848 (isolation #32) » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:05 pm

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In post 847, Spangled wrote:
In post 846, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh also spangled, I dont think i make good points, I just read people.
Fair enough.
Sorry for that, though — it was an unnecessarily insulting way to make a point.
I often feel I’m the opposite, to be honest.
I’m hilariously bad at reading people.
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Post Post #931 (isolation #33) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:35 pm

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I still don’t quite get what the scum!Thesp case is?
Could the thread get a full explanation from all parties involved?
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Post Post #932 (isolation #34) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:37 pm

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Also, when are the optimal times for massclaiming in this setup?
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Post Post #934 (isolation #35) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:08 pm

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In post 933, Formerfish wrote:
In post 932, Spangled wrote:Also, when are the optimal times for
massclaiming
in this setup?
When is the right time to mass claim? When doing so gives us a mech lock on the game and what we are doesnt matter anymore.

We aren't there yet.
No, not on D1. Of course not.
I am just asking, for future reference.
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Post Post #1038 (isolation #36) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:00 pm

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Ah, ha, ha, ha, 11 alive, 11 alive.
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Post Post #1047 (isolation #37) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:28 pm

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In post 1043, Sakura Hana wrote:In my experience ICs dont necessarily die N1, they do die at some point since scum needs to remove confirmed town anyway.
After thesp flipped town, your post sounded like TMIsh or like setting me up, that's why i went after you.
Aye, and I have been pretty rubbish as conf!town goes.


What is funny to me is that if Drew is scum, he didn’t kill one of the people most suspecting him (FF, for example).
What motive would he have for killing implo, and not FF or Turkeylad?
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Post Post #1050 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:02 pm

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In post 1049, Gamma Emerald wrote:Imp was widely scumread tho
Aye; scum probably could have pushed for his lynch fairly easily; far as I remember only me and Phill were defending him...?
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Post Post #1051 (isolation #39) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:00 am

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In post 1050, Spangled wrote:
In post 1049, Gamma Emerald wrote:Imp was widely scumread tho
Aye; scum probably could have pushed for his lynch fairly easily; far as I remember only me and Phill were defending him...?
Which on second thought probably means FF isn’t scum, on the face of it; if scum were other people it would have looked weird for them to suddenly push hard for his lynch.

...But as FF said, there is such a thing as an agenda kill :P
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Post Post #1102 (isolation #40) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:50 am

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In post 1074, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1049, Gamma Emerald wrote:Imp was widely scumread tho
4 people had imp in their bottom quarter for reads.

4 out of 13 saying he is scummy doesn't fit the definition I use for widely held beliefs.
You underestimate the power of a wagon’s momentum, FF.
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #41) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:12 pm

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In post 1103, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1102, Spangled wrote:
In post 1074, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1049, Gamma Emerald wrote:Imp was widely scumread tho
4 people had imp in their bottom quarter for reads.

4 out of 13 saying he is scummy doesn't fit the definition I use for widely held beliefs.
You underestimate the power of a wagon’s momentum, FF.
I'm going off the pushes I've made and the support I got for those pushes.

No one has given a single reason why I would kill Imp here, and it's pretty obvious as scum I wouldnt have killed him. I would have killed someone that I could swing heat onto, not bring it on myself.

And whatever momentum there was was from me and I didn't see anyone fucking vote tags up to settle beside me and push my push.
Oh, yeah, I’m not saying you’re scum because of that kill.
I’m just saying that Imp was mislynchable, and so the scumteam must have had an extra motive.
That is it.
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Post Post #1108 (isolation #42) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:17 pm

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In post 1105, James Brafin wrote:Spangled, what is YOUR opinion on all of this? As an IC you’re probably the only trustworthy person here.
I don’t know.
I haven’t seen anything particularly scummy from anyone; I need to put some more effort into the game but it’s hard to get motivated when you know you’re not going to get mislynched, and that being the NK is only a matter of time.

I think I TL you and Gamma based on tone, and definitely TR FF.
Both Phill and the Turkey I need to look back at; I don’t know why he is being so heavily TRed, or why Phill was scumread.
Sakura has a weird playstyle, I think — I also need to go and look back at her.
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Post Post #1109 (isolation #43) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:18 pm

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Similarly, I think I need to re-evaluate Drew.
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #44) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:45 pm

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In post 843, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 842, Spangled wrote:
In post 841, Sakura Hana wrote:You know. Drew's making good points.
As opposed to you, perhaps.
Could you give us your viewpoint on Thespio, and on the Turkey.
I think the way gob is making reads comes from someone with inside information.
Thespio compromise on an useless slot.
Do you still believe this Sakura?
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #45) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:57 pm

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In post 1133, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1130, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1127, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1122, Doctor Drew wrote:Also, just like Fish and Turkey, everyone should have an animal to represent them in this game. Not sure why, but it makes me giggle every time I call Gob Turkey.

I call dibs on snake.
Why do I distrust you identifying as a snake? I feel like Sue Hawk has messed with my brain
Could be that snakes are always equated with evil from the gardens of eden, to the pits of indiana jones pit nightmares. House of Slytheryn, Jake "The Snake" Roberts, Snake Pliskin. All bad people.

That is a good subconscious catch, like his inner scummer wants out.
This feels solid
VOTE: Dr. Drew
Also James I thought you were a goose. As for me I'd be a dragon!
...You’re joking on the ‘his inner scummer wants out’ feeling ‘solid’, right? Personally, that’s a step too far for me in Mafia-related amateur psychoanalysis.

And myself, I’d be a mantis.
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Post Post #1150 (isolation #46) » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:18 am

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In post 1149, Rick Dalton wrote:
In post 1113, Rick Dalton wrote:I reckon I need to catch up and glance over my lines.

I’ll be off book shortly. Anyone have any notes?
I specifically said I reckon that I need to, not that I was going to. And this is still relevant, I am piecing things together, and seeing how things go prior to me getting into the mix. I also asked if anyone had anything, and got ignored, so I had to get a grasp on things to help when I look back.

I’m here now, ain’t i
Well, there are things we’d like you to get a viewpoint on that aren’t someone else’s thoughts — hence, no notes.
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Post Post #1153 (isolation #47) » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:39 am

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In post 1151, Rick Dalton wrote:By seeing what thoughts people give me and what notes, I am able to also gain an accurate read on them because I can see if I think their thought process is genuine or not
Fair enough.
Day 1: RVS shenanigans, Gamma gimmick posted a few times, FF battled implosion and Phillammon was also under suspicion (which seems to have vanished, but whatever), most of the town mislynched Thesp for a few bad posts and lurking, IIRC.
Day 2: implo died (very weird), Sakura sort-of-claimed a guilty, Drew sheeped the heck out of it while Gamma asked why, and then Sakura retracted the guilty.
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Post Post #1175 (isolation #48) » Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:05 pm

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In post 1174, James Brafin wrote:Ok, Doctor feels worse and worse here. So does Rick.
Liking Sakura more and more here. She's actively scumhunting with this gambit instead of letting it lie. Same with Formerfish.
The Turkey I'm not sure about. He pings me in a non-aggressive sort of way.
Chemist, I have no idea about. It's a legit claim I guess, but it makes me uncomfortable.
Why is Drew feeling worse and worse here? Talk me through your read development here.
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Post Post #1177 (isolation #49) » Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:41 pm

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You have me there as Skellen, not voting.
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Post Post #1181 (isolation #50) » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:55 pm

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Hey, Turkeylad, can we get your view on Rick Dalton’s method of catching up, as well as Drew’s read on you?
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Post Post #1204 (isolation #51) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:56 am

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Awesome. Cool.
Any more reads, perchance?
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Post Post #1273 (isolation #52) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:54 pm

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In post 1236, Rick Dalton wrote:
In post 1224, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 1181, Spangled wrote:Hey, Turkeylad, can we get your view on Rick Dalton’s method of catching up, as well as Drew’s read on you?
If
Dick
Rick plays like this on his normal account, he could be mislynched 100 times as town and I don't think I would ever say it was a bad move for the town to make. I think he is probably town for the reasons he actually stated. I also had a townread on Phil that I alluded to when I explained my initial thought on Thespio.

I think Drew's read on me actually reads town. I am such a sucker for emotion, but his crisis of conscious on all of his top scum reads is really hitting home to me. I am currently having one myself about The Fish and Drew.
This is likely a heavy discredit attempt on me to keep the position of me seeming like a useless townie, when in actuality, I’ve been showing up and commenting through me replacing in.

This is scummy. While I understand the “town reasoning” for saying it, it makes it all the more likely to come from scum. This entire post reeks of political positioning.
In post 1243, Rick Dalton wrote:I’m going to start keeping a list.
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Why FF so low?
Why Sakura so high?
No position on Drew’s potential lynch?
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Post Post #1306 (isolation #53) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:14 pm

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In post 1225, gobbledygook wrote:Sakura town
Gamma probably town. To answer your earlier question Gamma, I only played a few games with Ranmaru.

I think Implosion might have been killed by a scum team that was mason hunting. It is possible they saw Implosion's strong defense of Phil as a mason defending his other mason.
What gives you that read on Gamma?
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Post Post #1309 (isolation #54) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:16 pm

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Chemist, you said some ISOing was going down.
Has it been? Are you anywhere near vaguely caught-up?
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Post Post #1320 (isolation #55) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:24 pm

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Hey Gamma, any reads to share?
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Post Post #1354 (isolation #56) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:54 pm

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In post 1336, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1333, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1295, Rick Dalton wrote:A tidbit from a tv cowboy, I think Fish, Sakura, and Rick Dalton’s the most dangerous townblock this side of the Mississippi.
Also, why isnt Spangled in this townbloc?
Or are you just referring to us 3 being dangerous?
Thats a good point, youd figure confirmed town would totes be in the town bloc
Nah, I haven't played town well enough to be in such a wildly western townbloc as this :lol:
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Post Post #1356 (isolation #57) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:55 pm

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In post 1341, Rick Dalton wrote:
In post 1339, Formerfish wrote:Rick, why is Chem where he is, and whats your read on gob in 3 lines or less?
Chem with that tracker business you guys mentioned brought him up for me. I don’t think he fakes that.

Spangled’S IC, so she’s everyone’s town block.

Gob misrepped, and had a bunch of political reads. He went after me and painted me like I was being antagonistic when I was simply reacting.
I do hope my User Control Panel hasn't been hacked; because that's the only was I'm a she :P
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Post Post #1357 (isolation #58) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:56 pm

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In post 1356, Spangled wrote:
In post 1341, Rick Dalton wrote:
In post 1339, Formerfish wrote:Rick, why is Chem where he is, and whats your read on gob in 3 lines or less?
Chem with that tracker business you guys mentioned brought him up for me. I don’t think he fakes that.

Spangled’S IC, so she’s everyone’s town block.

Gob misrepped, and had a bunch of political reads. He went after me and painted me like I was being antagonistic when I was simply reacting.
I do hope my User Control Panel hasn't been hacked; because that's the only way I'm a she :P
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Post Post #1359 (isolation #59) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:56 pm

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In post 1350, Skygazer wrote:pagetop
Hey, Sky, mind throwing out some reads for us?
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Post Post #1361 (isolation #60) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:57 pm

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In post 1358, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1353, Rick Dalton wrote:I could go for a Drew/Gob team.
It would explain why he doesnt seem to have any interest in him today, he never meant for him to be a viable option and is suspecting me more for pulling of the wagon it seems than he is looking at Drew sideways still.
People can have a realisation that their read ain't great, and it doesn't have to be scum faking it. It read strongly as the former for me.
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Post Post #1365 (isolation #61) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:00 pm

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In post 1247, Rick Dalton wrote:No, you’re hiding behind what is seemingly a policy lynch mentality now, and trying to hide behind that.
There’s also nothing wrong with being specific. This is Mafia; you’re allowed to have mental semantic throw downs.
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In post 1323, Rick Dalton wrote:
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How come Persivul fell between these?
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Post Post #1367 (isolation #62) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:01 pm

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In post 1364, Skygazer wrote:first of all im town
spangled is
probably
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Imagine an IC-miller.
That'd be pretty cool, but that being in the setup labels it undeniably bastard.
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Post Post #1368 (isolation #63) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:02 pm

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*were it in the setup, EBWOP
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Post Post #1373 (isolation #64) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:06 pm

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In post 1369, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1361, Spangled wrote:People can have a realisation that their read ain't great, and it doesn't have to be scum faking it. It read strongly as the former for me.
Where is the read progression then. At what point did he decide he didnt want to push Drew anymore?

He ended the day wanting Drew dead, and then Drew failed the gambit and then Gob isnt interested.

That doesnt sound like a good progression to me.
doesn't sound like 'not interested' to me.
Sure, there was more focus on you, but he certainly talked about and to Drew.
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Post Post #1376 (isolation #65) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:09 pm

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In post 1372, Formerfish wrote:Why isnt chem in the bloc as a claimed tracker?
Because a claim ≠ town. The real 1-shot tracker or 1-shot cop could be biding their time.
This
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Post Post #1380 (isolation #66) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:12 pm

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In post 1374, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1373, Spangled wrote:1222 doesn't sound like 'not interested' to me.
Sure, there was more focus on you, but he certainly talked about and to Drew.
So how does it make sense for him to vote Pers over Drew or myself?
He did?
I'll have to go back and reread that whole area.

Pedit:
He doesn't always have to want him dead; if you SR someone when they change their reads, even without much explanation, then you will end up with a lot of people who you think are scum.
To be fair though, that doesn't fully address that whole issue; I see your point, just not all of it.
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Post Post #1384 (isolation #67) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:13 pm

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In post 1378, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1376, Spangled wrote:
In post 1372, Formerfish wrote:Why isnt chem in the bloc as a claimed tracker?
Because a claim ≠ town. The real 1-shot tracker or 1-shot cop could be biding their time.
This
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Right, so it makes more sense that the town bloc should be 3 people who havent explicitly claimed anything, just that we have good feels about each other?
That is true, but he could easily have forgotten - I know I did, briefly.
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Post Post #1397 (isolation #68) » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:05 am

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In post 1395, Rick Dalton wrote:I got there based off VCA, and Persivul voting James is probably a lightweight bus vote.
Oh, yeah, speaking of which,
why
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Post Post #1439 (isolation #69) » Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:47 pm

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Hey, FF, any reads to throw out at the moment?
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Post Post #1441 (isolation #70) » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:14 pm

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In post 1440, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1439, Spangled wrote:Hey, FF, any reads to throw out at the moment?
I'm not fully caught up right now. But will read when I have a minute.
It's all cool, in Constantinople.

Hey, James, any thoughts on Rick's TvS read of you and Skygazer?
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Post Post #1442 (isolation #71) » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:15 pm

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Also, my good Turkey, reiterate for me why you're voting Persivul, please?
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Post Post #1454 (isolation #72) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:27 pm

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In post 1443, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 1437, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1436, Chemist1422 wrote:Sky
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maybe


not sure
, am tired
Git em Sky!
yes
What, no more than just ‘yes’?
No reaction to being called out on an entirely natural habit of humans?
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #73) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:03 pm

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In post 248, Sakura Hana wrote:"flash wagon this" "flash wagon that"
what is a "flash" wagon.
Wagon speed is not indicative of anything.
Besides there's only 3 votes, that hardly means a "flash" wagon. But i do think more votes would be nice.
Forgot to ask this much earlier — following thespio’s mislynch, do you still believe this?
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Post Post #1456 (isolation #74) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:10 pm

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In post 1439, Spangled wrote:Hey, FF, any reads to throw out at the moment?
@FF
Also I’d like to hear especially on what your read on Gamma is at the moment, and why you think whatever ‘tis that you think.
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Post Post #1458 (isolation #75) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:15 pm

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In post 1331, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm fine calling Rick Dalton town after skimming part of his ISO
Any particular posts you want to share, or...?
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Post Post #1459 (isolation #76) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:25 pm

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In post 1416, Skygazer wrote:To me, it reads like you don't want to make any hard commitments to reads. The only player you've strongly pushed today is a player that's already under a ton of pressure. You did a quote-wall thing to justify placing them at L-2. Everyone else has been getting reads like "they look better and better" or "they look worse and worse" or vague language such as "they're pinging me" or conflicting shades such as "I believe chemist's claim but it doesn't sit right with me." It doesn't feel like you're actually sorting; it feels like you're making pushes that you feel comfortable making and trying not to make pushes against players that might give you some pushback. You've shaded Rick but didn't pursue it. You shaded Sakura and retracted it for vague reasoning before placing her as town. You shaded implosion D1 but didn't pursue it! It feels like you're afraid of pushing the stronger players here and going for those that are more lynchable.

VOTE: James
Personally, I disagree. Using vague language is a personality thing, not AI. I can see some of that ‘shade then not pursuing’ it, and ‘being cautious’, as James put it, is not towny, but I cannot swallow all of this.

(Also, I dislike how you pointed out what you perceive to be buddying of me from James — that can easily be another, perhaps subtler, form of buddying).
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Post Post #1460 (isolation #77) » Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:37 pm

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That's probably paranoia speaking, though.
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Post Post #1468 (isolation #78) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:06 am

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In post 1463, Rick Dalton wrote:Just because it’s a read, doesn’t mean it’s right. That’s just what I thought in the moment.
This is a severe case of backing down once the town pressures you.
Do you believe that one of James/Sky is scum or not, and where does the scum!Sky part of it come from?
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Post Post #1477 (isolation #79) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:10 pm

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Sicker than any dog you care to name with a diarrhea-and-vomit bug; consider me V/LA indefinitely. If I merit a prod and a half, feel free to rep me out.


Noted.
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Post Post #1531 (isolation #80) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 1528, Skygazer wrote:VOTE: gobbledy
Explain this to me, please.
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Post Post #1532 (isolation #81) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:56 am

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In post 1480, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1479, gobbledygook wrote:Drew are you scumreading anyone?
I was gonna post reads last night, but got caught up other stuffs and then passed out heh.

I have 3 tiers.

People I can not see voting: Spangled, Chemist, Turkey, Skygazer

People I could see voting, but you would have to bring up some strong evidence they are scum that hasn't been brought up yet: James, Sakura

Scum is in here: Fish, Rick, Persivul

So with that VOTE: Persivul
Why is Persivul scum; talk to me about this read.
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Post Post #1533 (isolation #82) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:03 am

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In post 1518, Skygazer wrote:intent to hammer drew
:?: :?:
Where is this coming from town?
A claimed doc, and you’re like
Spoiler:


Talk to me about this please Sky.
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Post Post #1534 (isolation #83) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:04 am

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In post 1527, gobbledygook wrote:Those are either brilliant crumbs or awful crumbs. VOTE: Persivul
Why are you voting Persivul?
Please, please explain this to me.
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Post Post #1539 (isolation #84) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:56 pm

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In post 1536, Sakura Hana wrote:Another naked vote just to make spangled ask again
And do you actually have a reason for voting, or...?
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Post Post #1540 (isolation #85) » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:57 pm

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I can buy scum!Persivul, but I’d rather he caught up and actually responded to his developing wagon before I vote one way or another.
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Post Post #1588 (isolation #86) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:21 am

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In post 1587, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1583, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1533, Spangled wrote:
In post 1518, Skygazer wrote:intent to hammer drew
:?: :?:
Where is this coming from town?
A claimed doc, and you’re like
Spoiler:


Talk to me about this please Sky.
I don't believe the doc claim. It's an easy claim for scum to make in this setup and hard to disprove. I think their crumbs coming later on rather than earlier leads me to believe they realized they need to be setting up a claim since they've felt a lot of pressure so far. I also don't feel like doctors don't want to leave any traces that they're doctors; crumbing is pretty opposite to the whole "hiding from scum" play that most doctors would be playing like. they also hadn't pointed out any of their crumbs or claimed who they targeted when i declared intent, so declaring intent put some pressure on them to complete their claim as quick as possible without any chance to coordinate it.
Wow.

I responded to fake hammer saying I was doc, then posted crumbs when I had a free moment. Sorry I didn't drop everything right away for you.

This is such a misrep.
She means setting up the crumbs later in the thread, not telling us about them later.
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Post Post #1596 (isolation #87) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:54 am

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In post 1577, Rick Dalton wrote:Doctor claiming doctor
No thoughts on any of this?
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Post Post #1620 (isolation #88) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:28 pm

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In post 1615, Rick Dalton wrote:
In post 1596, Spangled wrote:
In post 1577, Rick Dalton wrote:Doctor claiming doctor
No thoughts on any of this?
I’ve already said I think Gobb/doc is scum.
I don’t think I can see them theatering this together as scumbuddies.
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Post Post #1795 (isolation #89) » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:01 am

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In post 1782, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 1780, Gamma Emerald wrote:Like I'm not confirming or denying it but it's anti town so to do that after your "confession" makes no sense if you're trying to townside in your last efforts.
Fine I’ll townside even more. Sky is scum and I was lying about 1 of the three
How do you know this?
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Post Post #1817 (isolation #90) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:23 pm

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In post 1816, Sakura Hana wrote:So uh, does SK change the ammount of groupscum we have? i forgot how this game works.
Yeah, it does. There are 3 scum always in this setup, and SK is counted as scum, IIRC.
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Post Post #1819 (isolation #91) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:31 pm

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So, I’m feeling town!Persivul strongly after that mechsolving yesterday and his reentry into the thread, coming in swinging.
I hear people have scum!Persivul reads — so could I get some explanations, perhaps?


Also, James, Sky, 1v1 for us! Scumcase each other and towncase yourselves as hard as you can, if you will.
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Post Post #1820 (isolation #92) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:31 pm

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In post 1818, Sakura Hana wrote:ok so that means it's 7-2 right now then.
Yep.
Who do you want to lynch today, Sakura; what’s your scumpool at the moment?
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Post Post #1824 (isolation #93) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:52 pm

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In post 1821, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1817, Spangled wrote:
In post 1816, Sakura Hana wrote:So uh, does SK change the ammount of groupscum we have? i forgot how this game works.
Yeah, it does. There are 3 scum always in this setup, and SK is counted as scum, IIRC.
No
Oh, hang on, does groupscum mean total scum number, as in 3p included? If so, no.
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Post Post #1826 (isolation #94) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:52 pm

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Gamma, what’s your lynchpool today?
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Post Post #1855 (isolation #95) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:49 pm

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In post 1842, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah we have 3 groupscum and I'm upset y'all haven't read the setup
Oh. I read it once. A while ago.
I guess I’ll have to read it again :facepalm:
Sorry.
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Post Post #1856 (isolation #96) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:51 pm

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In post 1848, Rick Dalton wrote:Spangled the Innocent Child
Gamma Emerald
Sakura Hana


Skygazer
James Braffin
Persivul
Chemist1422
Formerfish

So 3 scum in here, GE?

I think Formerfish is town.


I’m actually not entirely sure how the setup works, tbh. A lot of numbers.
Wait, why are we townblocking Sakura?
And why aren’t you townblocking Chemist with that claim?
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Post Post #1857 (isolation #97) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:53 pm

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Could someone remind me as to all of the claims that have floated around?
Is it only Chemist, Drew, Gamma and Gobble who have claimed?
Am I missing someone?
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Post Post #1864 (isolation #98) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:08 pm

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In post 1858, Gamma Emerald wrote:Sakura, who do you think is cleared that hasn't been noticed as a cleared person yet?
Oh, that’s right, you cleared her :lol:
If my ignorance of that was what you were referring to.
I need more sleep.
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Post Post #1869 (isolation #99) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:15 pm

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In post 1866, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1863, Sakura Hana wrote:got lost it's 1S BP.
Forgot about this
But why are you voting Jamesout of your suspects when a protection was claimed on him?
Protection ≠ clear.
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Post Post #1870 (isolation #100) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:18 pm

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Hang on a sec, if there are tailors (which there are with 1 T), Gamma’s clear of Sakura isn’t 100%.
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Post Post #1875 (isolation #101) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:23 pm

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In post 1872, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1, Korina wrote:Each night phase, you may forge a result on a player of your choice. This result will apply to all Investigative roles that check that player.
Like how does this work.
The way I read it, you make it appear as if they are something else — if a Tracker tracks them, they do whatever you say they did, if a Cop check them, they are whatever you say they are etc.

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Is this more or less correct?
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Post Post #1884 (isolation #102) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:27 pm

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In post 1882, Sakura Hana wrote:But although.
Would scum resort to roleblocking gamma if there's a tailor?
Maybe.
I mean, they couldn’t be sure that he’d check the same person that they’d frame.
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Post Post #1983 (isolation #103) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:32 pm

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In post 1982, Skygazer wrote:i wanna hammer james tbh
Specifically you want to hammer him? No just vote him and let someone else hammer him, considering that he's L-2?
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Post Post #1984 (isolation #104) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:51 pm

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In post 1976, Chemist1422 wrote:Question

How insane would it be if I proposed a lynch outside of the cop claims
Why would we do that?
One's scum, one's town, and that is almost for certain.
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Post Post #2003 (isolation #105) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:48 pm

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In post 2001, Sakura Hana wrote:Very talkative.
We're a talkative bunch.
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Post Post #2007 (isolation #106) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:38 pm

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Woah woah woah, surely there’s more to talk about.
We have 11 days, let’s get some reads lists going, if nothing else.
Pers, where do your reads stand?
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Post Post #2009 (isolation #107) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:44 pm

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Bloody darn it, Sky.
Seriously?
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Post Post #2027 (isolation #108) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:45 pm

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Oh, yeah. Forgot this was happening a little, sorry.
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I am no longer V/LA.
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Post Post #2067 (isolation #109) » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:55 am

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Rick/James didn’t feel s/s to me early game. FF has been super towny. I’m withholding judgement on Persivul/A50. But Sky, now, Sky has nothing going for ‘em. VOTE: Skygazer.
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Post Post #2071 (isolation #110) » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:43 pm

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In post 2070, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2067, Spangled wrote:Rick/James didn’t feel s/s to me early game. FF has been super towny. I’m withholding judgement on Persivul/A50. But Sky, now, Sky has nothing going for ‘em. VOTE: Skygazer.
Either you or chemist is dying tonight. Possibly me too if we hit a godfather.
I rather we solve the persivul/a50 situation today if at all possible. Your posts seems to indicate that you have the same PoE i do tho?
Well, you’ve been cleared, chemist’s pretty much conf!town by setup etc...
So I kind of have to have the same PoE :lol:
And I do think RD/James wasn’t s/s, although if Sky doesn’t flip we need to seriously consider the possibility of James/RD being s/s, and of FF being scum as well.
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Post Post #2073 (isolation #111) » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:59 pm

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In post 2069, Formerfish wrote:
Added to above it feels like scum giving up.
I don’t know about that; do scum giving up tell us to wait to lynch them so they can volunteer more information in the form of the thoughts she mentioned?
I don’t know what that laissez faire reaction is; I don’t know if it’s scummy or not.

...Although of course, that could just be what scum!Sky wants us to think, so...
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Post Post #2094 (isolation #112) » Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:03 pm

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It’s funny to me, but FF spread his thoughts far and wide on different issues when he caught up — but he has stopped giving many opinions, and
pretty much no one challenged him
(especially of late) on his initial opinions.
Reserving judgment awaiting reread.
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #2157 (isolation #113) » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:31 pm

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In post 2151, Rick Dalton wrote:Former wouldn’t have gotten that close if it were me.

Stick to the town block, Sakura. It’s accurate.
Gotten close to what, sorry?
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Post Post #2163 (isolation #114) » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:58 pm

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@A50
Any reads, claims, etc, before you are hammered?
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Post Post #2168 (isolation #115) » Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:12 pm

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In post 2166, Sakura Hana wrote:btw spangled i wanna hear from you more mostly coz there's a high chance you or chemist die tonight.
This whole game has confused me; I have been an awful IC. The one read I've felt really strongly on was implosion, and he died N1.
I thought that Persivul had been towny, but that's the feeling I've been getting from FF and Sky as well. They all feel a little off to me, in one way or another.
A50 hasn't done pretty much anything since he repped in, but I don't know which way to read that.
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Post Post #2171 (isolation #116) » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:55 pm

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In post 2169, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2163, Spangled wrote:@A50
Any reads, claims, etc, before you are hammered?
Yes. I believe there to be two scums in Rick/FF/Sky and I don't think it's Sky.

VOTE: A50

Good Luck my fellow townies.
Could you talk more about those reads, in the little time we have left?
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Post Post #2198 (isolation #117) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:54 am

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Sky is seeming town to me. But I am feeling so bloody paranoid right now, and Sky could be faking all this.
We've got one more mislynch available to us before LyLo, right?
So if I accept that you and Rick are town -
pretty
sure on that - then we can just lynch FF and Sky; game solved.
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Post Post #2201 (isolation #118) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:00 am

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In post 2189, Rick Dalton wrote:I’m leaning Skygazer.

I don’t think A50-FF were scum/scum.

I don’t want to think about Sakura tailored.
Talk us through all that, please. What was it about FF and A50's interactions that made you think they weren't partners?
And what about Sky has been scummy?
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Post Post #2202 (isolation #119) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:02 am

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In post 2199, Formerfish wrote:
In post 2035, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 2034, Almost50 wrote:Well, I have yet to read a thing., so a brief description of the game status would be much appreciated. Else, I'll be catching up later tonight.
I'm a 1-shot Tracker
Sakura is cleared by both me and the flipped cop but has a small chance of being tailored
Spangled is an IC

FF and Rick are higher townreads, leaving you and Sky in the primary PoE
Chem could have died because of this post.

If sky is scum she would have to kill one of me or Chem because we were both coming after her and a50 hard yesterday. If she kills outside of us then we both come after her again today and now we probably have rick with us as well and then the game is over.

Sky kills chem and not me because chem was cleared. Hana doesnt die because sky wants the wifom around the clear and the tailor to be out there. Rick doesnt die because hes too far down the list and spang is a live because he is rudderless at the moment.
It was Chem or me; we are cleared, but I've been so
unclear
(ba-dum-tish), which is why I am alive. No matter who scum is, they would have killed Chem.
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Post Post #2208 (isolation #120) » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:15 am

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In post 2204, Formerfish wrote:
In post 2202, Spangled wrote:It was Chem or me; we are cleared, but I've been so unclear (ba-dum-tish), which is why I am alive. No matter who scum is, they would have killed Chem.
I wasnt saying that it was me over you, I was saying that Chems reads were aligned with mine, and letting us both live was something that scum wouldnt be able to do because if its sky then 2 stronger players were coming after her today with a combined effort.

Your reads have been more wishy washy, which may be on purpose to stay alive longer, but you havent been able to really do anything with your position yet, being more on the following end than the leading, so you stayed alive in hopes that whoever is scum can lead you again.
...Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you're saying that my reads have been wishy-washy and pretty rubbish so that I can stay alive... so that 'whoever is scum can lead [me] again'...
I... really don't know how to respond to such a blatant assumption of my basic stupidity...
Wow. Okay. I know my reads have been pretty bad, but I assure you that that has not been on purpose.

And I think trying to read into Chem's death was pointless; he was literally the only good choice for the NK.
Pedit: Maybe. Or maybe 'twas a WIFOM choice.
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Post Post #2448 (isolation #121) » Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:29 pm

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Good game! Scumteam played great. Pretty incredible that the SK solved the game, what, D2? Props to you, Turkey.

I do have to apologise for being such a rubbish IC, everyone; it's funny but it gets more difficult to engage with the game when there's no possibility of getting mislynched. That's not really a good enough excuse for how rubbishly I played, though.
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Post Post #2506 (isolation #122) » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:00 pm

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Oh, yeah, Korina — thank you for doing a wonderful job modding, especially with the flavour!
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