Mini 2090 CYS: AtmosFEAR of Terrors

[Not Known 15]

"Good job, voting >>> not voting. Also haha, yes I notice you voted me most proximaly to me telling you to vote."

We can only lynch every 12 days. Which means we have a maximum of 4 votes. We need to be very careful with voting here.

[Not Known 15]

"Good job, voting >>> not voting. Also haha, yes I notice you voted me most proximaly to me telling you to vote."

We can only lynch every 12 days. Which means we have a maximum of 4 votes. We need to be very careful with voting here.

Let me be clear, since people don't seem to understand:
Start 60-48 End
48-36
36-24
24-12
12-0

So you have 5 windows. How do you get four, can you explain?

lynch on 60
lynch on 48
lynch on 36
lynch on 24
lynch on 12
Well, I seem to have failed taking the initial lynch into account.

[Not Known 15]

Merci, Madame!

More coming shortly...

[Not Known 15]

Merci, Madame!

I looked over the entire thread and only two early posts seem of any note. The rest was all... neither indicative nor needed any questions(except the lyncher claim and Pine but it is too late for pine - the supposed lyncher didn't leave the game and pine is banished.). The no flip thing and the townread thing aren't great for me because I normally play both by using flips and scumreading while I can't really townread.

imo we should eschew normal scumhunting completely, and instead *exclusively* discuss what order we think people put things in and the implications thereof.

For instance, kuribo is probably lying about putting scum as his third choice, but is nonetheless town who ordered his picks as town > scum > third party.

This was the first post that got my attention on re-read.
Why should we exclusively discuss what order we think people picked? Isn't that a bit too WIFOM'y, making "exclusively" extremely dangerous?
Why do you think kuribo lied about scum as third choice?

I feel bad for GreyICE

On the other hand, I feel good for Lady Lambdadelta

The most strange post until now. This... has no connection to the flow of the posts? What's the meaning behind this?

The post looks like a post intended to be posted in a Scum PT.

[Not Known 15]

Why should we exclusively discuss what order we think people picked? Isn't that a bit too WIFOM'y, making "exclusively" extremely dangerous?

Because I was being sarcastic.

Why do you think kuribo lied about scum as third choice?

Because I was being sarcastic.

The first might have been sarcastic, but the second being sarcasm makes no sense.

[Not Known 15]

am also TRing maria

Why?

[Not Known 15]

How does the plum post really make sense in scum PT?

she's saying that she feels bad for GI, and feels good because the creator of the game (also GI's wife) gets to watch him suffer through a terrible post restriction.

Well, I didn't know the second, so....

[Not Known 15]

The scum only needs one key to win.

A badly placed TR could end the game for us.

Hm the Black Key sounds like something horrible. I wonder if it is the Right Key. If yes... that would be... fitting for a bastard game. that key existing is extremely bad news because it means that we
1. need to have a townie scapegoat who can't win for the rest of the town to win....
and
2. need to have 4 OTHER people who are town to agree with going forward.

[Not Known 15]

I kinda need the green key for my ability but I'm a bit more concerned with it sticking on someone who has more town points than me.

VOTE: implosion

What makes you believe that implosion is town?

[Not Known 15]

Based on the things Pine said after being hammered they are probably third party.

[Not Known 15]

Dude I’m already lynched. I don’t care anymore. There was no process, no intent, just hammer, and oh we’ll slip you the black key too

This was a poor form D1

I feel unjustly policy lynched

[Not Known 15]

well yeah, need is relative, I'm assuming we're just claiming what key unlocks abilities.

For some set up spec, we know there are 6 colors, so there is at least some overlap in general. 13 people, so...that maths a bit weird since it would mean every key has 2 people who get powers from it except one with three?

Or maybe not. Key distribution might be different from that.

[Not Known 15]

nk15 i know you're participating now but you've managed to say an *aggressive* amount of nothing in your iso. you've fos'd me for what now amounts to you not understanding sarcasm when I'm pretty sure every other player in the game can agree that it makes sense that that sentence was sarcastic; you've fos'd plum for something that you now understand isn't a real reason to fos her.

The only other posts you've made have been empty questions, or empty setup speculation, or pointless pontificating on pine.

Care to give any actual reads based on actual, tangible reasons, and not based on trying to search for scumslips where none probably exist?

I looked again for posts I missed and found this:

The funny thing is that I've been scumhunting this entire time, my genius lies in my ability to scumhunt without anyone being able to tell.

Yeah? Who’s scum, then? So far I just clock Plum

I HAVEN'T THE SLIGHTEST IDEA WHO'S SCUM THIS GAME SRY MAN

(They were pushing Pine constantly)
Otherwise, my current reads are... non-existant
Like in:
Me:100% Town
Everyone else: Null
Katsuki:1% Town

Additionally, I'd want to know why Alisae revealed that we both are in a neighborhood. But currently, due to the post restriction, I can't really determine the intent after that.

[Not Known 15]

My math says if scum gets a kill every lynch if scums around, we have 3 safe lynches and the 4th brings us below the threshold, 5 bringing us to 3 people.

... and that's not even factoring in extra kills. We should try to advance to the well as soon as possible. After all, we don't want to use up all lynches before advancing to the well in case one scum or third party sneaks in.

BUT before we can advance at all
all 6 keys need to exist at all(and on 6 different people!). (and now I am glad that we decided not to decline to lynch and to wait for a key which would have resulted in a loss at time unit 0 due to the green key missing).
What's even worse is that we need to give force the autoloss condition named Black Key onto a fellow townie.

[Not Known 15]

What's even worse is that we need to give force the autoloss condition named Black Key onto a fellow townie.

Why are you assuming we can't force it onto scum?

Why would we WANT that? We need all 6 keys to be on town to win the game.
And because 4 keyholders need to approve going to the well and someone with the Black Key cant win you need 4 OTHER keyholders to accept that. No one wants the Black Key, unless they are immune against its effects.

[Not Known 15]

Actually yeah, if everyone gets banished who doesn't have a key at well of fears, and the black key gets willed out upon banishment, it would pass to one of the players in the well of fears, one of which will inevitably be holding it along with any other keys

Someone has to sacrifice their win for the good of the team at endgame

The Black Key player wouldn't be banished because they hold one of the 6 keys.

[Not Known 15]

Actually yeah, if everyone gets banished who doesn't have a key at well of fears, and the black key gets willed out upon banishment, it would pass to one of the players in the well of fears, one of which will inevitably be holding it along with any other keys

Someone has to sacrifice their win for the good of the team at endgame

The Black Key player wouldn't be banished because they hold one of the 6 keys.

Ah for some reason I thought that it was a seventh key that wasn't required or whatever

Well, it is, actually, a seventh key.

[Not Known 15]

Actually, everyone who told us that a black key exists is a liar.
Because the rules say:

The Well of Fears is the endgame condition for the game. To enter the well of fears, all 6 keys must be held by 6 different individuals, and a majority (4) of those individual players must agree to progress to the Well of Fears.

There are 6 colours of key: GREEN BLUE PURPLE RED ORANGE YELLOW

Now, 6 colours wouldn't preclude that because Black is not a color. But it says "all 6 keys", which means that these 6 keys are "all keys" and as such a seventh key can't exist.

[Not Known 15]

Merci, Madame!

OK, Alisae cannot vote until the next TC(46).
And we need to vote for 4 players to partipiciate in an event. But... is that event good or bad? Uhh....

[Not Known 15]

You don't see why accusing half the playerlist of lying about a mechanic but not actually scumreading any of them is scumsided as fuck?

Well, yeah, that's why I didn't start pushing these people; when I researched it I found that the number of people involved were too big for them to be all scum(unless this setup is ridiciously scumsided). But that means that there is another explanation for that I didn't find yet.

[Not Known 15]

[Town]

implosion (setup spec and pushes ahoy)

Since when is setup spec a towntell?

[Not Known 15]

I think my read list looks like this for now:

[Town]

implosion (setup spec and pushes ahoy)
Skygazer (quality ISO)
hebichan (townreading here, I can see good intentions here. May the green key secure the town win)
Alisae (the deathtunneling seems odd, but I think I still TR alisae, treat this as a townlean)
GreyICE (your limericks and non-post restricted posts were towny, townlean here)
MariaR (don't have much to work with here... uhhh... town?)
kuribo (uhh... hard null at best I guess)
Plum (scummy ISO)
Not Known 15 (zero effort means zero reason for me to townread you)
Katsuki (not the lyncher, therefore 9 times out of 10 is a scumlord. If this is the 10% universe, maybe this game is weirder than normal)

[Scum]

Further questions:
Why is post 375 a town-tell?
What are, exactly, the good intentions of hebichan and where are the posts these reads are based on?
Why do you townread Alisae in the first place, them being post-restricted to pictures very fast?
Why is "zero reasons to townread" lower than "scummy ISO"?
What exactly is scummy about Plum's ISO?
Why are the limericks and other post of GreyICE towny, in your opinion?
What are the conflicting signs that put kuribo at "hard null at best"?

[Not Known 15]

[Town]

implosion (setup spec and pushes ahoy)

Since when is setup spec a towntell?

[Not Known 15]

just saying the ideal thunderdome is one player from each category

why are you so goddamn confident of this

Maybe TMI?

[Not Known 15]

I'd rather prefer 2 townreads, 1 null and 1 scumread. Information we get about the event if it is not divulged what it is will be will be given by partipiciants afterwards unless they all die, if the event is just "You decide the next banishments/something else by majority vote" or anything like that we don't have 3 scummy players deciding that.

[Not Known 15]

I don't have 2 townreads, however, the only one is me and I am not really townread by others so I'd vote rather late.

[Not Known 15]

I don’t like that post that was directed towards TL

Well, what else should I do but ask questions if I have nearly everyone at Null? There will be no flips to adjust my reads.

[Not Known 15]

So the events with Pine still has everyone at null for you? This game is flapless you know this. What's gonna make you adjust your reads?

Well, Pine is dead and might not be town based on their late behaviour.
Katsuki is very likely not town based on their singular focus against Pine, and also probably not on the same team as Pine.
The rest, however, is still at null. I am trying to get something that is actually scum-indicative(trying to townread people is usually not reliable, at least not for me) on the rest - but if I don't find anything, and for finding townreads, I just have to sheep others. As I said, flipless and a need to townread aren't good for my chances to play well and this game contains both.

[Not Known 15]

Why?

I transversed the veil of the living and communed with the souls of his dead ancestors, then traded them sexual favors so they'd betray his alignment to me.

Is this based on a role action or not? The game is flipless...

[Not Known 15]

[Town]

implosion (setup spec and pushes ahoy)

Since when is setup spec a towntell?

It's time that this gets answered.

[Not Known 15]

[Town]

implosion (setup spec and pushes ahoy)

Since when is setup spec a towntell?

It's time that this gets answered.

Says the guy who has two reads, one of which is dead, the other of which is someone that pushed him and who putsthe entire whole rest of the game into "meh null"


If your iso were any more devoid of real content and if you were any scummier, I believe the ghosts of a thousand dead mafia players would return from hell to admonish you

What does that have to do with someone else not answering that question?

[Not Known 15]

Yeah fuck it I think he should answer


I mean I don't actually care about the answer


But I'm willing to scream at him for fifteen pages about it if necessary

Not really out of wanting to know but more because I think it would be amusing

It's slightly more beneficial to the town to do your setup spec out in the open, so the rest of the town can know it... that's the reasoning I got.

It means the other townies don't have to setup spec as hard as normal.

It is also an easy way for scum to partipiciate without doing scumhunting. It is an easy way to increase the size of your ISO with low risk contributions.
They had implosion as top townread, and gave as reasons "setup spec" and "pushes"
If they are the top townread, then they must have done good things to be townread. "its slightly more beneficial for town=townread" looks like fake, or newbie scumhunting. TL is not a newbie. And I don't see a lot of

pushes

in the ISO of implosion either. And no strong pushes.

The townread is fake. It has been artificially construed.

[Not Known 15]

Yeah fuck it I think he should answer


I mean I don't actually care about the answer


But I'm willing to scream at him for fifteen pages about it if necessary

Not really out of wanting to know but more because I think it would be amusing

It's slightly more beneficial to the town to do your setup spec out in the open, so the rest of the town can know it... that's the reasoning I got.

It means the other townies don't have to setup spec as hard as normal.

It is also an easy way for scum to partipiciate without doing scumhunting. It is an easy way to increase the size of your ISO with low risk contributions.
They had implosion as top townread, and gave as reasons "setup spec" and "pushes"
If they are the top townread, then they must have done good things to be townread. "its slightly more beneficial for town=townread" looks like fake, or newbie scumhunting. TL is not a newbie. And I don't see a lot of

pushes

in the ISO of implosion either. And no strong pushes.

The townread is fake. It has been artificially construed.

Are you seriously calling someone out for low risk contributions, mr "tee here everybody null"

No? I am not saying that low risk contributions have to be a reason for a scumread. Just that they are not a credible reason for TL to

townread

someone else.

[Not Known 15]

No? I am not saying that low risk contributions have to be a reason for a scumread. Just that they are not a credible reason for TL to townread someone else.

So you're cool with me scum reading you for your low risk contributions?

I mean, I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I want whether you're cool with it or not, I'm just making sure we're at an understanding

I don't like you scumreading me for low risk contributions, but I don't think that's scum indicative for you. It isn't an unreasonable stance to take.

[Not Known 15]

still think nk and tl are both town over here what up

You think the setup spec reasoning wasn't fake? Or alternatively, that they had a towny reason to fake reasons for their townread?

[Not Known 15]

the risky stances thing might have been someone else actually, idr, shrug.

Indeed.

No? I am not saying that low risk contributions have to be a reason for a scumread. Just that they are not a credible reason for TL to townread someone else.

So you're cool with me scum reading you for your low risk contributions?

I mean, I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I want whether you're cool with it or not, I'm just making sure we're at an understanding

[Not Known 15]

We have only very limited lynches regardless of our lynch accuracy so we should lynch carefully from now on - mainly suspect keyholders.

[Not Known 15]

I mean you're definitely gonna have to save a lynch to banish me before the well of souls but that's getting ahead of yourself

You claim to be a non-town keyholder?

[Not Known 15]

first of all, i never fucking said i had a key

so where the fuck you even got that from is beyond me

the rest is just the sleep deprivation making me want to tear your head off your still living shoulders for wording your response that way


i think you owe me an apology.

I mean you're definitely gonna have to save a lynch to banish me before the well of souls but that's getting ahead of yourself

Why do we need to banish you before the well of souls, then?

[Not Known 15]

first of all, i never fucking said i had a key

so where the fuck you even got that from is beyond me

the rest is just the sleep deprivation making me want to tear your head off your still living shoulders for wording your response that way


i think you owe me an apology.

I mean you're definitely gonna have to save a lynch to banish me before the well of souls but that's getting ahead of yourself

Why do we need to banish you before the well of souls, then?

Because I can't imagine the rest of your scum team wants you bringing me along
The

Why would I, if I were scum, have to lynch you?

[Not Known 15]

Why would I, if I were scum, have to lynch you?

because I've spent twelve years tearing bad scum like yourself to pieces

Every time we lynch someone and banish them, scum can banish a person they choose. Which is a good reason to get the keys as fast as possible and then to open the Well of Fears; unless, of course, the keyholders are untrustworthy.

[Not Known 15]

My chips are on town!Pine

Why?

[Not Known 15]

okay I've not played with Pine before so I thought he was being deathtunneled.

If he's indeed a scum picker... then yeah that's a good reason to banish him. Pine already was being scummy but the deathtunnel was off-putting.

My chips are on town!Pine

Caught. There is no way this is town.

[Not Known 15]

okay I've not played with Pine before so I thought he was being deathtunneled.

If he's indeed a scum picker... then yeah that's a good reason to banish him. Pine already was being scummy but the deathtunnel was off-putting.

My chips are on town!Pine

Caught. There is no way this is town.

The progression from "pine already was being scummy" and "If he's indeed a scum picker... then yeah that's a good reason to banish him"
to
"My chips are on town!Pine"
is simply not possible like this if you honestly scumhunt.
Only if you pretend to scumhunt and slip up by forgetting your previous post.

[Not Known 15]

IT MEANS IM CLAIMING SCUM WITH KURIBOP

What is this person? A Jester? A lyncher? A lawyer? Some other weird 3rd party? Insane town? Scum?

[Not Known 15]

Gamma Emerald hasn't posted since last Tuesday.

That's way too many

There is a very good reason for that...

Gamma Emerald has been banished on Time code 57.

[Not Known 15]

I wonder if time units are partially based on the number of posts.

[Not Known 15]

Merci, Madame!

Implosion goes for the key. The rest goes for safety. That sounds like the best outcome. TL gets banished either way. I like this idea, Alisae.

[Not Known 15]

Alisae wanted the green key. The key should go to implosion because we already know that Alisae doesn't benefit from it.

[Not Known 15]

didn't realize there were so many shenanigans afoot

Based on what I just saw I do not want GreyICE to get the key.

[Not Known 15]

They have two claimed lawyers.

[Not Known 15]

The decision would not be hard for that situation - Banish GreyICE.
Their death would remove two non-town people from the game because they could no longer win.

[Not Known 15]

The decision would not be hard for that situation - Banish GreyICE.
Their death would remove two non-town people from the game because they could no longer win.

Errrr what?

Did I miss GI claimimg scum?

No.
These two would lose:

I kinda need GreyICE to stay alive so if y'all could just make sure not to fuck this up, I'd be grateful

My wincon also hinges on the survival of GI so.

If TL votes anything other than safety, we are turbolynching him.

... and based on that GreyICE is more likely to be not town, too.

[Not Known 15]

Implosion, please banish GreyICE.
They are part of a cycle of people converted by kuribo that will lose if GreyICE is banished.

[Not Known 15]

I haven't "converted" anyone, again, I SELECTED FOUR PEOPLE BEFORE THE GAME BEGAN

They DO NOT KNOW WHO EACH OTHER ARE other than the fact that I said so right in this thread, and the only way for them to become 100% aware is if I get a red key, they get to be in a neighborhood together

further, you know absolutely nothing about my win condition, and the honest truth is that I fully intend to hold this game hostage with my knowledge of such.

AND THESE PEOPLE REPORTED HAVING A THIRD PARTY WIN CONDITION OBVIOUSLY TIED TO YOUR SELECTION; AND YOU YOURSELF AREN'T TOWN!!!

[Not Known 15]

Merci, Madame!

NK, if you think kuribo recruited people into/is tied to other people that are also third party, and GreyICE hasn't claimed third party... why would we even believe kuribo about the people he's tied to?

Because these people - except GreyICE themselves - claimed to have a third party win condition related to what kuribo said. And related to GreyICE.

Would like TL to claim.

[Not Known 15]

I think we should recap on who claimed a third party win condition and which win condition they claimed. Whatever they are, they surely aren't town.

[Not Known 15]

Definitely not.

[Not Known 15]

actually; this might be a stretch and may not work, but could all the third parties that don't have exclusive win-cons out themselves??

when i die i have to guess each player's alignment to win and get a pretty high percentage right, it'd make my life easier!

My wincon also hinges on the survival of GI so.

If TL votes anything other than safety, we are turbolynching him.

I need you alive too so okay deal

My wincon calls for me dying so gl with that!

Can you make sure to do so with the Black Key

Here's the probem.

THREE claimed non-town.
At least TWO scum(otherwise it wouldn't be a scumteam)

means FIVE antitown.
At least one person needs to be banished.(and one will by scum)
The game is supposed to be reasonably balanced.

And don't let anything happen to skygazer while we're at it

Two of these horsemen are not town; and have strangely related wincons.

We can only hope that TL or Pine were scum, or Gamma third party.

Because the two others are very likely the scumteam.

Which means->
VOTE: GreyICE

[Not Known 15]

We haven’t used it at all since I outed it btw
He hasn’t bothered to post in their and neither have I

A neighborhood is only useful if you want to share info with someone you trust. Since I don't trust Alisae that much and Alisae doesn't trust me at all there is no good reason to use it.

[Not Known 15]

i mean, among people actually playing the game, there are like several townreads and several scumreads of me, so no, scumreading me isn't going against the grain?

you also LITERALLY ONLY CALLED ME SCUM IMMEDIATELY AFTER I VOTED YOU?

idk why to even try engaging with you :\

Yeah don't. They claimed to be a combined Jester/Unjester.

[Not Known 15]

There isn't much info and town seems to have already lost majority... or will be shortly...

[Not Known 15]

There isn't much info and town seems to have already lost majority... or will be shortly...

What makes you say that?

He's counting how many people are in his scum PT

No, I am simply counting the number of third party claims and adding 2 to it, the minimum of mafia members.

[Not Known 15]

There isn't much info and town seems to have already lost majority... or will be shortly...

What makes you say that?

He's counting how many people are in his scum PT

No, I am simply counting the number of third party claims and adding 2 to it, the minimum of mafia members.

I know reading isn't your strong suit but what you were being asked is how you can know that all of the dead are town.

I don't. That's why I said "or will be shortly". I don't see any possibility of a town win with so many keys being unknown or not distributed at this time, and with scum having so many potential nightkills unless we have banished all scum. And in that case we need to banish people who aren't town.
Like this annoying person:
VOTE: kuribo

[Not Known 15]

So your solution to "scum probably outnumbers town" is to banish a third party and increase the scum to town ratio

No.
Scum+third party either outnumbers town and town has practically lost...
or town still outnumbers everyone else and we get rid of potentially dangerous third parties like you. Who also could be scum, but are NOT town, and that means the town to not town ratio won't decrease.

[Not Known 15]

Are you not assuming that after my banishment scum wont kill a town?

You being banished and town subsequently being banished will not cause loss of majority. Because your wincon is anti-town.

[Not Known 15]

More votes on kuribo please.

[Not Known 15]

I haven't been lynched in over three years


It'll take more than asking politely

You having an anti-town wincon should be enough.

[Not Known 15]

NK15! I want a scum lynch today. Fuck poking useless 3rd party dips, all that will happen is a townie will die and we'll have the same shit tomorrow. We can always throw the third parties into the fires later. Come, join us.

Kuribo IS scum. Third party, but still scum - anti town. And if they fakeclaimed then they are still not town.

[Not Known 15]

okay I've not played with Pine before so I thought he was being deathtunneled.

If he's indeed a scum picker... then yeah that's a good reason to banish him. Pine already was being scummy but the deathtunnel was off-putting.

My chips are on town!Pine

Caught. There is no way this is town.

hmmmmm NK15 you seemed pretty sure TL was scum... but then you later said:

Here's the probem.

THREE claimed non-town.
At least TWO scum(otherwise it wouldn't be a scumteam)

means FIVE antitown.
At least one person needs to be banished.(and one will by scum)
The game is supposed to be reasonably balanced.
In post 890, kuribo wrote:
And don't let anything happen to skygazer while we're at it

Two of these horsemen are not town; and have strangely related wincons.

We can only hope that TL or Pine were scum, or Gamma third party.

Because the two others are very likely the scumteam.

Which means->
VOTE: GreyICE

So.... you think you helped lynch scum... but you still think town is outnumbered? Or at least "will be soon?"

Based on the things Pine said after being hammered they are probably third party.

But wait, you don't seem to think Pine was town either.

This is what we call "cognitive dissonance." You need to pretend that you're making righteous lynches, especially in no-reveal, to hide your numbers. But you done fucked up, because you gotta keep it CONSISTENT. So you've spent the last several dozen pages falling back on LeTs lYnCh ThIrD pArTiEs

Yes, will be soon. If there is 5 not town in the game, and we got rid of one scum, then we STILL have a slim town majority.

[Not Known 15]

Even getting rid of TWO non town means we have 7vs3 if the game started with 5 nontown.

[Not Known 15]

VOTE: Implosion

[Not Known 15]

Implosion, on behalf of both town and scum in AtmosFEAR, I hereby sentence you to sudden, instant, and even immediate DEATH. Further, I will hereby remove you from the sight of god and so ensure that your eternal soul shall be torn asunder and cast into darkest limbo.

nema! livee, morf su revilled tub nushyaitpmet ootni ton suh deel su tsnaiga sapsert tath yeth vigrawf eu za sesapsert rewau suh vigrawf derb ilaid rua yed sith suh vig neveh ni si za thre ni nud eeb liw eyth muck mudgnik eyth main eyth eeb dwohlah neveh ni tra chioo rethoff rewau! In nomine Satanas, ad angelum perspiciunt lapsum, versus Christo.

Vote: Implosion

This is creepy.

[Not Known 15]

Merci, Madame!

[Not Known 15]

also is it just me or is implo handing the key to plum just weird

Maybe they knew about the other key?

[Not Known 15]

VOTE: Not Known 15
It's time for me to get a key.

[Not Known 15]

VOTE: Not Known 15
It's time for me to get a key.

Why do you think you *should* get a Key?

Also, if you couldn't get a Key today, who *would* you vote for?

1. Because I am town.
2.Katsuki.

[Not Known 15]

It's possible that groupscum has been eliminated.

[Not Known 15]

NK15, yesterday you were moping that Town had already lost the majority or was on the verge of it and now you're just randomly stating that groupscum might already be eliminated???

Correct. I was assuming that there were really 2-3 neutrals and 2-3 groupscum(5 or 4 nontown).
With 10 alive and 4 nontown town is on the verge of losing majority. But if groupscum consists of 2 and implosion was groupscum and Pine was groupscum...

or TL

(implosion didn't really want to banish TL if I remember correctly) then things look better because of the lack of a nightkill. Much better.

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MariaR has won the RED key. Event coming tonight when I get home.

Not good. Let's see what comes next...

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Hebi I request that you do not claim unless you are at L-1

VOTE: Alisae

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Hebi I request that you do not claim unless you are at L-1

VOTE: Alisae

I requested her not to claim?
why are you voting me?

Hebi-chan, if you are at L-1 you must truthfully claim your alignment as Town, Mafia, Neither Town nor Mafia in your next post.

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Vote me up to be trolled by LLD. It can't get any worse...

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The restriction on hebichan is literally one of the worst that can exist.

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(not for town, but in general - especially when it's de facto random who gets it)

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This game was announced as reasonably balanced for a bastard game but I see nothing of that. That's bad news because finding out the setup is... more difficult. It is most likely heavily scum/neutral sided.

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Merci, Madame!

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NK-15, I request that you request yourself to take the bait, then take the bait.

NK 15, I request you to take the bait.
NK 15,I request you to tell us your alignment.
Answer: My alignment is - according to what I know - Town.

NK15 - I request that you make the most logical request you could think of to yourself and then execute the most logical request you could think of in the most logical manner you think a requester could ask of the requestee

NK15, I request you to post what you want.

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Merci, Madame!

Here are the things I have to say:

All groupscum are very likely ghosts.
Whoever comes back - if it isn't me - needs to be removed again.
At least one of Implosion/TL is scum.
Get rid of Kuribo. They are anti-town.

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ye i think scum stopped posting

Not only scum, unfortunately.
I still strongly advise getting rid of Kuribo.

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Event

27

Ghosties! Listen up, here's your big chance~. Don't blow it.

Each of you has a card with the name of every ghost on it, including your own. You will submit one of these cards to me.

If you are the ghost with the most votes or tied for most, you will be BANISHED.

Unless, you voted for yourself, in which case you will choose someone who voted for you to be banished.

If you do not vote for someone who has or is tied for the most votes, you are BANISHED.

Any remaining ghosts will move on to... keep being tortured by me~.

You have until the end of Time Code 26 to submit your cards. I will reveal the results on Time Code 25.

Merci, Madame!

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Pick GE.

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Gamma Skygazer is not a ghost... you need to select someone else...

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Merci, Madame!

You write as if the decision between me and Gamma would be made by town. Hint: It won't. There's too much scum in the ghosts...
Pine, TL, implosion...
If the people are indeed town then neither me nor Gamma should be chosen before only three are not picked(Gamma, me, third person who is most scummy). And if it is that way, it should be Gamma who's getting banished, not me. Gamma could be third party, or scum who banished himself.

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Aight guys y'all get to

beg

make your case as to why I shouldn't banish you.

ALLEZ

I guess no one cares about their survival huh.

Banishing in 6hrs if I don't get any response.

I'm town. You shouldn't banish me because:
-if you are town then you not only banish a known townie but also...
-if you are town, scum, or anything else, then you can expect to be the next banishment target after this.

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Gamma could be third party, or scum who banished himself.

Why the fuck would I do that

If scum knew the mechanics (of dead people coming back and how)...

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It's just like earlier you were all "oh we've almost lost the majority" and then "oh we think all the scum are dead Lololol"

Tell me... how many scum kills did we have? One! When was the last scum kill? On Time Code ... 57!!!!
implosion, pine, TL, GE.
These four were banished before scum was able to kill again. It's a reasonable deduction that all scum might be in these four people.

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And before you say "lolz three scum in these four ppl" - it's likely just two. Three scum +2 third party with hostile win condition is 8vs 5. That doesn't sound reasonable, or balanced, based on the town power that was uncovered until now.
It isn't likely that GE is scum or third party, just to be clear, actually quite unlikely. But IF scum knew about the death mechanic we could throw the game to a "confirmed town" scum. I don't want to take these chances, you might because you are actually not town...