Project ARCH - Epilogue

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes its not bad to assume that maybe scum gets serum for MLs

I just need to determine if what happened to me is

reflexive

or if it is targeted.

Are you saying you targeted me?

Oversoul couldn't do anything since he had 0 serum @dun

Interesting progression

Also not all abilities require serum, possibly

[Gamma Emerald]

I am still employed by the GenX. The flavor seems to be that I have been blackballed by the other corporations because of optics related to Simotech

Okay then.

[Gamma Emerald]

Can i file a request for a more MariaR-style posting pattern instead of this robotic one.

You may if your request reaches 5 supporters the new style will be put into place.

I myself see very little different in this and your normal speech patterns

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m gonna read what I missed but for now VOTE: Maria

VOTE: Bambi

This is good too

Cloud can you give me a little bit on Fred the cat

Why teh vote shift

[Gamma Emerald]

No comments on the day though?

[Gamma Emerald]

I am somehow even more lost than I was last night.

I would like people to tell me why they think Almost is town and if not, vote him.

Why is almost scum

[Gamma Emerald]

So Cloud ignored me bringing up Silver Goo in particular. Sad times. Just when I wanted to help the townies too.

Any other clues or shiz, Cloud?

Are you third party bambi?

Will you murder me if I say yes?

Probably not but its more likely i lynch you today if you dont

To be fair... A lynch on me hurts me and town the most. So yeah.

Wut
Also yes imo the monkey is town

[Gamma Emerald]

Interesting. FWIW, my theory re: OS and Sakura was completely wrong, so that's

fun

. Also my vote on GE didn't go through, which should confirm to everyone at the very least that I a) have no serum, having not been on the lynch wagon, and b) had no way of gaining serum through additional sketchy means. Draw whatever conclusions from that you will.
So, now we just gotta work out what the frak is going on with our Milleriser or whatever the fuck Dunn is (why you would claim Miller but not the rest of your bullshit is beyond me, unless you're claiming it for convenience) and why they're not being open & honest w/us... oh and [redacted] is a fun little private puzzle I get to work out.

unvote

since it doesn't do anything anyway.

You're looking pretty scummy right now

I really don't think he's scum at this point

[Gamma Emerald]

Why trust a Monkey? No offense Almost.

I'll get off Primate when he isnt the majority wagon.

Humans are Primates too

[Gamma Emerald]

V/LA from now until Sunday evening. Family funeral.

Understood, and my condolences.

[Gamma Emerald]

RCS as strong scum huh.
Where the hell are they anyway.

I did suggest they could be a deepwolf earlier

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, what should I look for if you're scum?

Idk, tbh I kinda feel out of sync with my own meta lol

[Gamma Emerald]

If Aeon is scum, I think Gamma is scum

Why this

[Gamma Emerald]

Maybe something to do with flavor from last game.

If this were the case I think the net would be wider

[Gamma Emerald]

3 times 100 equals 300. I see no problem here Sakura.

RIGGED
VOTE: BAMBI JAY

[Gamma Emerald]

Looks like the apathy's hitting this town hard with RC gone.

fuk u

[Gamma Emerald]

Or they just like having different names.

This is why Maria does it
Also VOTE: RC Superfan

[Gamma Emerald]

im sorry, what?
that was uncalled for.

What you did wasn't called for either imo

[Gamma Emerald]

im sorry, what?
that was uncalled for.

What you did wasn't called for either imo

There was discussion going on all the time with RC here, and now there's barely any content posting.
What should my conclusion be?

I'm not talking about anything in this game

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi Chemist, Sakura. I'm Niko.

Hi Bambi, I'm Rainn.

I'm jealous of PP's coloured name therefore no greetings to him.

I don't think I know you lol

[Gamma Emerald]

We already played together before Gamma.

I don't really want to say that account name though.

Ummm okay
Is it a roleplay alt, that's my only question

[Gamma Emerald]

I think your scumread on me is probs unfound, and youre using theatrics to whitewash it

Wut

[Gamma Emerald]

Didn't you already ask if I was 3p tho? Or are you one of those folks who say 3p is scum.

Yes. A player just won a game by claiming 3P as scum, so... sorry :/ hopefully you can win after death if you’re being truthful?

This is why 3p never townsides

[Gamma Emerald]

pisskpop

Huh.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: pisskop
Btw

[Gamma Emerald]

from where do you know this?

We've played before and we've SR each other from memory.
Until either i got mislynched or ragequit crying or whatever it is that i used to do.

The only time that didnt happen nor i was worried it would happen was Colors due to my predecessor.

Pisskop fyi Sakura is Luna Fox, we were in the game where you where the omni hooded traitor

[Gamma Emerald]

magical girl

Okay I am pretty sure about ur ID and I'm fine leaving it there

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma i'm not sure why you're voting pisskpop tbh

are you sure you've been reading the game?

I agree FTC was prolly creature I was just voting your slot because I thought it could be under the radar scum

[Gamma Emerald]

magical girl

Okay I am pretty sure about ur ID and I'm fine leaving it there

i'm not GIF though

Didn't say you were but you're closely associated with GiF in my mind

[Gamma Emerald]

no no

i mean

why are you voting pisskpop and defending sakura. i don't get that feel from the last pages.

I already felt sakura was town and despite not caring about the reaction I feel sakura's rwxyion to my "fuk u" was town

[Gamma Emerald]

And youre not allowed to use Pies game against me. I played to my logical conclusion, and I think it was a spectacular example of how to keep above the water. and why resignation is an option scum can take,

The fuck
All games should be analyzed

[Gamma Emerald]

And youre not allowed to use Pies game against me. I played to my logical conclusion, and I think it was a spectacular example of how to keep above the water. and why resignation is an option scum can take,

The fuck
All games should be analyzed

*Whoosh* goes the subtext

Actually fuck you.

[Gamma Emerald]

Did the sound redshift as went by?

Lynch this

[Gamma Emerald]

let cards fall where they may is always my motto

if someone claims they urgently need serum they will, and honestly being voteless-until-lylo isnt like as bad as death

You should have signed so i know which head is talking

HA

[Gamma Emerald]

Look at the serum junkie!

?

[Gamma Emerald]

What the hell is this game

[Gamma Emerald]

What’s the point of playing on known alts?

Being able to play a different style as a different personality. AP vs A50 for me, Elsa Jay vs Bambi Jay for the Jay bros and you can add whoever elsa you want.

Fyi I have a public and a secret alt (only one person knows it and they're p much sworn to secrecy)

[Gamma Emerald]

for reasons that might for what we know be related to boredom.

I read this VERY wrong for a second yikes

[Gamma Emerald]

We already played together before Gamma.

I don't really want to say that account name though.

If you are Niko you played with him as NIKO!

Not possible.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm sorry CK but it's hard to TR a slot where creature flaked.

I get it, he also crumbed in a way its very hard to believe coming from s. Gamma/RC obv saw it, gamme trd him for it, RC was unsure.

I always had in the back of my mind that he could be town

I mean I can see it being town creature too, and tbh I think Tanqka is playing a little sketchier than pisskop

[Gamma Emerald]

anyway continuing i'm annoyed at ck and i don't feel like trying anymore

pisskpop, can i take that as you saying you're confirmable town?

Not as such, in fact i feel like I have a minigame to play now.

but yes, it was a very busy night for my slot.

This is pretty bold to admit as scum
VOTE: Tanaka rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Pisskpop, want to form an alliance and lynch CK as a counterwagon?

This isn't Survivor, you don't form "alliances"
Plus Tanaka was just SRing PK

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm a roleblocker though

Uhhh

[Gamma Emerald]

Yea.

I am the head of a company. I assume every company (perhaps even the nominal scum company) can send out letters.

What do you mean "nominal scum company"

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm a roleblocker though

Uhhh

you know what

let make things spicy

i'm a bodyguard.

the hydra targeted Dunn n1.

I never intended to use it though, not worth it.

????

[Gamma Emerald]

Given the number of letters flying around, and the crumbs i saw from people who didnt send me letters, I suspect that some of the people who send them as scum.

Wait you know who sent them

[Gamma Emerald]

This whole day is become a whole lot about corporate mechanics

[Gamma Emerald]

Uggggh who is the scum

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not going to buy other 3p claims after this ofc

Why tho

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh right...

VOTE: almost50

I think I dislike A50, Chemist or CK more than Pisskpop rn

Fyi I am liking A50 less now

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually I'm not sure that Oversoul turning into miller is due to a role that needs serum.

UNVOTE:

Hmmm

He was a serum vendor from the start, serum is related to simatech so maybe it was an event or something

Hm

[Gamma Emerald]

Wheme can you pls do a thing that makes it obvious what your alignment is.

If Wheme isn't being town he's scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Creature getting prodded out is 100% Creature scum.
That's meta.

If I remember correctly he doesn’t get replaced as scum he just lurks

I've had one game (Albeit admiteddly i dont remember which), before I knew creature's black and white meta where he flaked as scum and we lynched the replacement as a result.

Actually maybe that one was Nero and not Creature

I mean I had a different (probably) game where Creature did that too and his slot was SRed for that

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh right...

VOTE: almost50

I think I dislike A50, Chemist or CK more than Pisskpop rn

Fyi I am liking A50 less now

Almost, do you have any scumreads besides Chemist?

?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Almost50
I think everyone else is right to suspect this

[Gamma Emerald]

heh

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Almost50
I think everyone else is right to suspect this

You need to explain more

I just don't see the drive I feel like town!you has

[Gamma Emerald]

We don't need to "sort things out"

We need to lynch s omebody

You wanna vote rauth with me

No...

Lol

[Gamma Emerald]

Bur seriously.. would you rate me as a good or a bad scum player? @Gamma

I'd rate you on the better side but that's because you're generally hard to read, which hurts your town game imo.

[Gamma Emerald]

Bur seriously.. would you rate me as a good or a bad scum player? @Gamma

I'd rate you on the better side but that's because you're generally hard to read, which hurts your town game imo.

That's not the point. The point is would I be good at scum if I had "no drive"?

That's not what I said. I said your posting lack a certain drive, not that it has none.

[Gamma Emerald]

Bur seriously.. would you rate me as a good or a bad scum player? @Gamma

I'd rate you on the better side but that's because you're generally hard to read, which hurts your town game imo.

That's not the point. The point is would I be good at scum if I had "no drive"?

That's not what I said. I said your posting lack a certain drive, not that it has none.

What type of car do you want me to drive?

One where your gameplay feels more genuine

[Gamma Emerald]

Tomato.

Also

More importantly, does any of this bear any relevance or importance to this game whatsoever.

Yes, I stated I suspected A50 and we're going back and forth over that

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess the best thing you can do is try to prove me wrong, so some more pro activity with your eclectic personality

[Gamma Emerald]

Ur not gonna get NKed if you don't play the game

[Gamma Emerald]

That doesn't work if you get lynched

[Gamma Emerald]

I propose we lynch Oversoul and if he flips town we lynch me next. How's that?

How about hell no, and you trying to cut a deal when there's no reason to is scummy as fuck.

[Gamma Emerald]

The fact Gamma's not suspicious of Oversoul is worrying me too. You know well what I'm talking about and it's a matter of hours (real life days?) before I can say it aloud.

The Role Call game, how?

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like my subtlety is not getting through to people and it's frustrating.

What subtlety? :p

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm
How can I know I can trust you PP

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean your subtlety

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: Reaction to Oversoul

Huh?

[Gamma Emerald]

Claimed in my first post. Masons with Dunnstral.

I doubt this

[Gamma Emerald]

I was being careful to try and avoid a night-kill. I believe it worked a bit too well...

p-edit:

I am Dunnstral

I was going to follow this up with "...and I'm a miller." in my next post, but after post 15 I wanted to see what Bambi's deal was

This is the only post where Dunnstral says he's a miller, and that was intended to be a joke. People took it a bit too seriously.

And yet Dunn never spoke out about it?

[Gamma Emerald]

All I know is he hates to play scum and he doesn't look uncomfortable, so leaning town until further notice.

I don't see this. In fact
VOTE: WhemeStar
This had been on the table D1 and I feel like it's been skirted around today so I want to try this.

[Gamma Emerald]

CK I don't see anything in your voting rationale on unwnd that is a point for you being town instead of scum
Also nice gradual escalation into practically bullying people into acting how you want them to.

[Gamma Emerald]

Im not engaged here. sorry.

Awwww! He's SINGLE. That's so cute.

Spoiler:

I like this post...

Glad everyone else has been kickstarted by my claiming and et al though!

Y.. you... c.. claimed??

But I don't like this post.

[Gamma Emerald]

I believe I’ll be making things much more confusing for PenguinPower from here on out.

Teach hasn’t officially stated I’ve replaced in, but here I am!

Whatup.

[Gamma Emerald]

Because Wheme is scum
Do you not think his play is similar to LN 213

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean I remember but I'm like MENSA levels of smart apparently

[Gamma Emerald]

Where is everyone anyway, it feels like it's been ages since most ppl have posted.
Also happy scumday GE.

Thanks

[Gamma Emerald]

What is the case against Wheme

Dude is playing his scumplay

[Gamma Emerald]

We should build a counter wagon for science for real though

Hell no!

[Gamma Emerald]

What is Wheme’s scum meta? And why not a counter wagon? That is usually how you get good analysis of motivations.

He is less comfortable and more lurky as scum

And seemingly all on town? I guess my point is that counter wagons to scum (if wheme scum) usually give good motivations

Yeah if the wagon has genuine reSon to exist. You're forcing one which will mist likely net a lot less info than you expect

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean I’m not wagoninf Claude for the sake of wagoninf him. I think he is scum because I thought Chemist was scum. Chemist replaced out so voting there would do nothing.

Your case against Wheme seems to be very similar to my case against Chemist/Claude - lurking. So I’m not sure why you’re so opposed to this wagon existing as in and of itself

I know who Claude is and Lurking is nai for him. As for chemist idk what to make of the lurking rn.
Also you say you are wagoning Claude because he's scummy but you also call for a counter wagon "for science". That seems smart.
And to expand on Wheme, as town I recall him going out and making a splash. He didn't always say things that made sense but he made sure to take a stand. I don't see that here. His only "stand" was him reflexively pushing back at CC imo.

[Gamma Emerald]

What is Wheme’s scum meta? And why not a counter wagon? That is usually how you get good analysis of motivations.

He is less comfortable and more lurky as scum

And seemingly all on town? I guess my point is that counter wagons to scum (if wheme scum) usually give good motivations

Yeah if the wagon has genuine reSon to exist. You're forcing one which will mist likely net a lot less info than you expect

Idk I think my scumplay is just me lurking I’m not sure about the comfortable shit.

Yah I’ve lurked this game but I think it’s becaus of the playerbase and my second game back to mafia. Really hard to get into things

what was your other game back?
also okay maybe you pushed CC first, but I also think your push there was generally bad

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh god I’m dumb I can just use that to defend myself I was a lurkfest there too lol

no you weren't, you had 100+ posts
you got really fucked by me being on an actual computer for 15 minutes and having the ability to quickly peruse your play that game. It fits exactly what I expect from town you, which is uninhibited natural thought processes that may not always be thew smartest thing in the world but they drive the game forward, which I don't see here

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok
Still doesn't equate to lurksack anyway

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh god I’m dumb I can just use that to defend myself I was a lurkfest there too lol

no you weren't, you had 100+ posts
you got really fucked by me being on an actual computer for 15 minutes and having the ability to quickly peruse your play that game. It fits exactly what I expect from town you, which is uninhibited natural thought processes that may not always be thew smartest thing in the world but they drive the game forward, which I don't see here

Yah I tried to do that but everything I tried to do I either got A) ignored or B) shutdown by everybody

You see I recall that happening in your WhemePlay game but you worked around it

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh god I’m dumb I can just use that to defend myself I was a lurkfest there too lol

no you weren't, you had 100+ posts
you got really fucked by me being on an actual computer for 15 minutes and having the ability to quickly peruse your play that game. It fits exactly what I expect from town you, which is uninhibited natural thought processes that may not always be thew smartest thing in the world but they drive the game forward, which I don't see here

Yah I tried to do that but everything I tried to do I either got A) ignored or B) shutdown by everybody

You see I recall that happening in your WhemePlay game but you worked around it

What game was that

Anything UPick?.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also Whem your sig is hilariously out of date

[Gamma Emerald]

Fred the cat fucked this game up I think

I didn't think you would scum claim so boldly

Okay talk about this
I also like what you point out against Cloudy

[Gamma Emerald]

Wow so what, one of the companies is outright the scum team? That seems like bad design.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also from the flip the game is most likely singleball

[Gamma Emerald]

no masons voting him?

Why does this matter?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also from the flip the game is most likely singleball

How so ? I doubt PP was killed from a town aligned slot, 3P?

looks at bambi

If there was another scumteam the scum wincon wording would likely be different.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why would scum shoot themselves? Gamma

I can think of a vig reason g, which is why that should claim if true

Bambi should claim those elements that I asked

I don't think they would but this is a bastard game, anything is possible

[Gamma Emerald]

ala Penguin Power flip.

He was aeon, his role may be part of some subgame. But he was sought after, and his death occurred in the same night as everyone got free serum.

In the rules, when a scum died every player alive gets 2 serum.

Oh ho! Didn't realize that applied to night deaths, okay.

[Gamma Emerald]

I understand the talk about A50 being scum for PPs death.

What the hell?

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually what if Aeon was a mislead, other role flips weren't redacted. That redaction honestly has been bothering me the most out of anything rn

[Gamma Emerald]

It's also possible that Aeon doesn't have a kill at all. Which would make them not necessarily a threat to the Rebels.

Given Aeon has to outnumber the Rebels they're probably a threat.
Noted re: the flip though.

[Gamma Emerald]

"We are not the demons you're looking for"

Let's not take flavor as Word of God

[Gamma Emerald]

Now unless someone wants to claim Simotech and claim the kill I believe Oversould to be the lynch for today.
I think (id Gamma is correct about it being single ball) that the scum have a choice between turning someone into a machine and killing someone. I was marked on N1 for sure (the Ascetizing ability), so maybe they can use that simultaneously with their kill, but not the actual "Robotizing" action along with the kill.

What's this "turn into a machine" thing?

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay

[Gamma Emerald]

Factional abilities usually mean nightkill and speaking. Why is that so foreign to you

Is that what it was in Role Call?

Guys, I SWEAR this scum faking ignorance.

@Gamma/Maria: You were both in Role Call. Do you see this quote coming from someone who had played AS A MEMBER OF THE SCUM TEAM in that game?

I think(?) I understand your point here. Not sure about it making him scum

[Gamma Emerald]

So PP or other scum spent their hard earned serum to ascetize you, then spent their serum or other factional ability to kill you/target you. That’s gonna be a no from me dawg.

Why the hell woild scum Target you with an ascetize ability first of all
Why would they then TARGET YOU AGAIN with a NONKILL MOVE KNOWING THEY ASCETIZED YOU

He's odd night though
I'm seeing the fake stupidity now.

[Gamma Emerald]

cults ... don't usually have restrictions on who they can target

Actually iirc they're supposed to die if they target groupscum are at least, fail, outside of games where the mod doesn't give a shit about the fact a groupscum being culted can just leak their team.

[Gamma Emerald]

Because that means they can outnumber the rebels through conversion instead of kills.

You know with the "turn into robots" thing this might make sense, but unless being turned into a robot doesn't change your alignment that would be equivalent to a cult.
You know what I might be onto something here.

[Gamma Emerald]

I never thought that a 19p large theme could be bastard at all...

Actually what is this

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh I have doubts about who I thought I rainn was now that they seem clueless about bastard games' popularity or w/e

[Gamma Emerald]

Rhaz

Who?
Also not into a massclaim rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Although I feel super lost I don't think anything doesn't make sense rn

[Gamma Emerald]

A50, I think you should just claim. This is getting more confusing than it needs to be

Check your inbox. I think if you reread all the mod PMs from this game starting with your role PM you should get a clue.

Again, were I in a better position to know what happened in this game, I'd be leading the charge to lynch you for you bullshit

Why tho

[Gamma Emerald]

Does Almost 50 usually give random theories out as scum? Or babble as town?

I think he probably does those things as both alignments but the "random theories" comes from town A50 more often

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Claude
I'm down to make him give content

[Gamma Emerald]

Chapter 2: The Impossible Job

Johnson and Family main building, El Cajon, 2175

"Are these people out of their minds?!"
"Sure they are, but have you seen the amount of money they're offering for this? We can expand and become one of the major players on the market!"

"Jason, my dude, they're asking us to build a fucking factory high up in the mountains. We can't possibly do that you know? Besides, don't you think this is super fishy?"
"With the reward we're offered for it? We'll make it happen and I couldn't care less what they're going to do with it - hell, let them produce cocaine there, it's not our responsibility. We build it somehow, get our cash and then the fuck out, no strings attached."

"I don't know man, it's jus-"
"We're doing it, no matter what. We need this money to go big, brother. Isn't that what we were going for? 'With every stone, closer to the sky we go' still is our motto isn't it?"

"Whatever man, as long as we won't get into trouble. I'll go call. bald Bob and the boys."

Celestial Coordinates was killed last Night. Their role PM is the following:

Spoiler: Role PM

Will the world stop spinning if I leave tonight?

If you saw thousands of dead bodies, are you still afraid of death? Are you used to decay, or does its face keep you up, every night again?
Let me tell you something. Remember it well, and think about it.

Humans care for others, as long as they don't have to care about themselves. Once their life is at stake, anyone else can die, over and over again. Humans are selfish, programmed for survival, not love.
When you are ordered to kill your parents, you kill your parents.

Was it the wrong thing to do? Maybe. But I am human, and I want to survive.
Or... wanted to, anyway.

When life gives you lemons, you squeeze them in the eyes of your enemies and make sure they never see light again.
When forced, everyone can and will become an assassin. It's human.

I found my way with poison. Silent, peaceful and deadly. It's incredible how just a little amount of something seemingly unimportant can cause so, so much damage. Combine it with alcohol, and death is imminent.
You see, I never wanted to be a murderer. When life forces you to, so will you.
When the last bit of life is drained from your already rotting corpse, you'll know that you would have done everything to prevent it.

But the world keeps spinning.

You are

Liam Porter, sent by

GenX Inc.

, Aligned with

The Rebels

.

You have the following abilities:

• Strange vodka gets you a long way.
  
  Every night, you may roleblock a player at the cost of 1 serum, effectively preventing any action they take that night. Once you have used this ability, you have to pay an upkeep of 1 serum every night.

You win when all threats to the Rebellion have been eliminated.

Day 2 starts now.

I am Shawn Grant and this flavor flip is talking about a "Jason". IIRC bambi claimed Lucas Grant so I am assuming Jason of Johnson & Family is prob scum

Would've preferred you held onto this to catch someone

[Gamma Emerald]

At this point I really thought I was the nk and I was trying to claim aeon traitor to get him to move it to someone else.

BUT HOW DID YOU KNOW AEON WAS SCUM

[Gamma Emerald]

His answer wasn't very good, did RP claim a company

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I've speculated aeon were bad from day 1.

Off what evidence

[Gamma Emerald]

His answer wasn't very good, did RP claim a company

Nopers.

Panda has

Which one, then

[Gamma Emerald]

Which was why I was trying to find out who was resistant to corporation claiming day1.

It's a closed game, what plan did you have to tell the scum from those who just object because it sounds like a bad idea

[Gamma Emerald]

GLADIATE SAKURA HANA

If this is real I'm voting you.

[Gamma Emerald]

Who's Katy?

Katy = RCSF

[Gamma Emerald]

A sheepamon

Don't forget Wooloo!

[Gamma Emerald]

A cult is a third party faction that seeks to recruit players into itself, as the MafiaWiki says. I follow this definition.

Wait! So a 3P faction that changes players alignments NOT to itself isn't a cult?

If that's true then Aeon are changing townies into Simotech, but then they have to maintain the balance between the two lest Simotech gains majority before Aeon outnumber the town.

I know many won't get it, but since I did something similar I can imagine a 3P working the scales to achieve their pwn win con. Simotech can win alone, or they can win with Aeon. Aeon can win alone (which is going to be bloody hard), or with Simotech. The Rebels must eliminate both Simotech and Aeon to win.

This makes 0 sense

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: primate

FTR, if Oversoul isn't happening I would very much rather lynch OS here. And if that is also not an option then we lynch whoever it was that replaced Vifam. Can we please all vote one of these 3 options?

Naaaah

[Gamma Emerald]

2: rebel alignment is not green. RPs seal is green

The fuck are you on

[Gamma Emerald]

Your town meta would be essentially...being scum. By:
1. doing lots of posts that aren't really useful/don't say much, just so you can claim you have "lots of posts".
2. appealing to LAMIST public discourses.
3. Be over-the-top with remarks like "i'm obvtown and you're bad for not seeing it" when you don't really have that much going on for you
4. Try to paint your actions as super pro-town when they aren't. Focusing on your image instead of lynching scum/preventing town mislynches.

Then yeah, I'm going to keep you forever in my lynch list I imagine. Not impossible to change but very very hard.

This isn't bias.

Man you are infuriating, I went on my laptop because you need more words to understand stuff.

1. You dont fucking know anything about my meta or my play, don't you dare say anything if you havent searched my games. If you did, post your thought, otherwise dont be that guy
2. LAMIST is considering scummy on this site. What makes it scum indicative? What do you think is my motive by trying to be townread? Don't you think that motive could also come from town?
3. I am obvtown and primate is obvscum. You are obvdense. I have been fighting for my slot since CC has been on my ass, Sakura/gamma wanted me after the flip and now you tunneling for hilariously shallow stuff. You blame me for not focusing on "lynching scum/prevent town mislynches"

WHO THE FUCK DID LMAO?

Did a single slot EVEN tried to read wheme correctly when he was near lynch? No, why do you blame me for that? I have been trying to lynch primate for 2 days in a row, the moment I vote Wheme and im gone for 8hours, hes lynched on the spot and you blame me?

4. My actions are PRO-TOWN, why do you imply that me "painting my actions as town" is scummy? How does that gymnastic in your head is working out. Do you seriously believe that me explaining what i did as town is scum indicative? that I am projecting a certain scum agenda in trying to

not get fucking lynched?

Your case is non existent, the more I push your read on me the more I see there's just nothing there of value. Basically you just disagree that I am town and mention stupid old tell like LAMIST/strong words and blame me for the state of the game when I did much more than most. Why dont you blame MariaR? Chemist? Primate? Kidam? etc

Your big problem imo is you act like all this stuff you're arguing is plain as day when it really is not

[Gamma Emerald]

Rebel alignment is a shade of green.
not color=green

Fair enough, should provide that info initially next time please

[Gamma Emerald]

like we said earlier

Who the fuck is "we"

[Gamma Emerald]

Rainn's content about the mechanics of the game were pretty good, but this whole push on me is objectively abysmal

No it isn't they have a point

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean, you're probably not the first player, but the first player in a very long time, that has me considering very hard voting you despite townreading you just coz im done taking insults.

Sakura I want CK and you want Fish

Can we trade?

No, Id kill you first, were I scum

What

[Gamma Emerald]

Rainn's push on me wouldve been considered a scum claim in any decent table, its hilariously bad and content less

Really, because your push Rainn is actually pretty bad. Were you suspecting them at all before they came after you?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: unvote

gonna pass on that thanks rainn

As I was saying, I do not TR the person behind the mask.

What

[Gamma Emerald]

And make no mistake; you are setting lynches. Your town strat is more to keep quite, imo, not wrangle support.

Do you know who Rainn is

[Gamma Emerald]

Granted i promised myself i'd give Rainn his lynch today, specially coz im tired of how CK's been treating me this game.

I havent insulted you in a long while, im not sure why you bring this up rn

You'll soon find out i can be quite a resentful girl.

Petty, why should I be expected to stay sane when I am playing with people voting irrationally

Hm...
My irony detector feels funny

[Gamma Emerald]

That is my reasoning for him not being simotech, A50 is smart enough to not kill a possible traitor soft I think.

I like this logic

[Gamma Emerald]

The way he uses meta sounds like krazy but is krazy this smug?

I don't think so?

or maybe he is overdoing it as a gimmick?

i'm not sure²

I also think that krazy would...know my meta better. even if he was scum and had to lie about it?

PLEASE NO

[Gamma Emerald]

A50, you're doing that thing you do when you have a scumread that you like to overthink everything they say and apply it to a scum mindset or slip.
Reminds me of when you scumread me in street fighter.

That makes A50 town right

[Gamma Emerald]

Was she flakey in forgotten hourglass? hmm....
I'm mostly going by the fact that people were using she skipping the entirety of Day 1 in BoR as a way to portray her as scum, and scum me abused that as well. Which makes me confident that MariaR barely being here is more likely town than not, of course the post restriction could be involved instead making it NAI.

I dont recall her EVER being flaky

[Gamma Emerald]

like we said earlier

Who the fuck is "we"

Sakura

Sakura didn't say that at all. YOU said that. There is no "we" there is only you, and you seem to trying to falsely draw others into your bullshit. Until I saw this there was reasonable doubt but now I'm pretty sure you're scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Fish, can you claim companies?

I think I'm about to town clear fish here tbh.

I have, several times.

securipal. im the head of security for secupal

AHAHAHAHA

VOTE: fish

Wow.

[Gamma Emerald]

like we said earlier

Who the fuck is "we"

Sakura

Sakura didn't say that at all. YOU said that. There is no "we" there is only you, and you seem to trying to falsely draw others into your bullshit. Until I saw this there was reasonable doubt but now I'm pretty sure you're scum.

You are so silly, i meant to say "like we discussed earlier'' as in she was part of the conversation, not that she said those words literally

Then you should have added that

[Gamma Emerald]

You were dodging your scum meta werent you.

you don't know my scumgame well enough to say this tho

VOTE: Sakura

come at me bro

Do you know who Sakura is?

[Gamma Emerald]

like we said earlier

Who the fuck is "we"

Sakura

Sakura didn't say that at all. YOU said that. There is no "we" there is only you, and you seem to trying to falsely draw others into your bullshit. Until I saw this there was reasonable doubt but now I'm pretty sure you're scum.

You are so silly, i meant to say "like we discussed earlier'' as in she was part of the conversation, not that she said those words literally

Then you should have added that

I mean, "we said", I aint a native english speaker and I commonly use some words that are non-optimal in a certain sentence for a certain meaning, langage stuff

Well "said" is one of the vaguest speech words in the English language, and from what you wrote it felt like you were saying she agreed with you. Either saying "discussed", or more importantly, making it clear Sakura wasn't agreeing, would've fixed it.

[Gamma Emerald]

vote her please

she's a destructive force town or scum

I think you are at the point where you need to die
VOTE: Fish

[Gamma Emerald]

I rather hear opinions of ppl not named Fish Monger or RedPanda.
Since those 2 are the ones most implicated by this speculation.

I think it's confusing but I think lynching Fish clears it up

[Gamma Emerald]

I think you are not caught up and need to keep reading.

zzzz

[Gamma Emerald]

Which was why I was trying to find out who was resistant to corporation claiming day1.

It's a closed game, what plan did you have to tell the scum from those who just object because it sounds like a bad idea

Are you for real gamma? The plan was to narrow down the pool and then I could townhunt and poe scum. I don't get how town you cannot even think that's the obvious reason.

Okay, but did it not cross your mind the idea of "scum could use this info against us"?

[Gamma Emerald]

I rather hear opinions of ppl not named Fish Monger or RedPanda.
Since those 2 are the ones most implicated by this speculation.

I think it's confusing but I think lynching Fish clears it up

how does lynching me clear panda in any way from being aeon?

I didn't mean it like that. I meant the situation would be less confusing with your lynch.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a funny briefcase full of magic.

and a magic red wax seal

But you seem to have a red seal.

and redpanda has a green seal

Which seems to be the color of Aeon Technologies?

my seal color is rebel green.

Actually this is interesting. Could your seal being rebel green and you not bring able to neighborize Simotech be connected?

[Gamma Emerald]

2: rebel alignment is not green. RPs seal is green

The fuck are you on

Given what RP claimed you're extra out of your mind on this one

[Gamma Emerald]

Rainn's content about the mechanics of the game were pretty good, but this whole push on me is objectively abysmal

No it isn't they have a point

He has no point, everything he claims is that my playstyle is scummy yet hasnt bothered to double check anything from my past games.

Engaging someone 1vs1 and voting outside is not scummy.
Fosing someone and naked voting them is scummy but then i explained my reads once asked (about primate) so it was a genuine read.
He says im ungenuine, I didnt even lie in this game when I usually do as town so thats pretty funny

What is his case if not those shallow points

I think you are being disingenuous (THE CORRECT WORD BY THE WAY), specifically you acting like you and Sakura having similar roles should make you the same alignment and acting like your resistance to unwnd and especially Wheme were clearly presented.

[Gamma Emerald]

rainn/katy

Also what

[Gamma Emerald]

rainn/katy

Also what

am i wrong?

Idk, tbh their approach to me early makes sense as katy

[Gamma Emerald]

Rainn's content about the mechanics of the game were pretty good, but this whole push on me is objectively abysmal

No it isn't they have a point

He has no point, everything he claims is that my playstyle is scummy yet hasnt bothered to double check anything from my past games.

Engaging someone 1vs1 and voting outside is not scummy.
Fosing someone and naked voting them is scummy but then i explained my reads once asked (about primate) so it was a genuine read.
He says im ungenuine, I didnt even lie in this game when I usually do as town so thats pretty funny

What is his case if not those shallow points

I think you are being disingenuous (THE CORRECT WORD BY THE WAY), specifically you acting like you and Sakura having similar roles should make you the same alignment and acting like your resistance to unwnd and especially Wheme were clearly presented.

I just disagree with you, thats not being disgenuous. Scum would not seal their claim by claiming the sample role as the 1st claim in the game with not other information, that is

not

a very likely scenario. This is why I am saying that I should be role confirmed. The same alignement is just the natural development of that read, the way Sakuara reacted was stupidly genuine and transparent and there's just not way I believe she is not VT/BP. The same way, if she was mafia, I doubt that she would've deemed necessary to soft her claim as to try to defend uwnd, the same moment I did.

This is why I hardlock Sakura as town.

. I should be town from Sakuras pov if shes uses the same tells I am using to read her, which is what I am expecting any half decent player because its not very hard to see the role/pov i projected at the end of d1, its not hard. You can also see everyone who didn't agree as people who obviously had different roles, because people will instinctively project their role pov, its just the nature of the game.

There is absolutely nothing disingenuous about that. You could argue tho that me forcing that read down Sakuara's throat is disingenuous, maybe as in I expect her to arrive to the same conclusion as I did with the same information.

My resistance to Uwnd was pretty clear, it was also pretty clear that I wouldve been 2nd lynch if not of uwnd. Like I said, I don't claim I tried to stop the lynch that much, I went along with it the moment it hit like 7-8 votes, I still disagreed tho and kept telling CC he was wrong and was fosing 2 towns. You know as well as me there was no going back from those 8 votes with CC/Sakuara/Dun voting there. What is expected of me then? When uwnd outed a few good lines, I pointed them out. When he claimed and CC showed bad reasoning about his claim, I pointed it out (just to get called scum). I even softed to CC that both Sakuara and Me obviously had the same role Uwnd had. When he asking me how could I have this POV (about VT having BP) I didnt dismiss it, i just asked why not?

I gave CC information about my role and my read on sakura's role in an effort to him to maybe reconsider his read on uwnd claim; because he said that his claim was scummy. I did plently of stuff to try to get that lynch averted and probably more than you think. I can quote everything i just explained here if you dont believe me and call me disingenuous. I didnt crack the game open the moment i saw half the table no believing the VT claim, i kept my mouth shut and outed my dying read (because i believed i was getting viged by CC).

I never said that my resistance on Wheme was presented,

never

. I said, I voted them as 4-5 votes then I went to work. 6 hours later he was lynched and there was nothing that could be done. What I said, is that I blamed this table for no one unvoted when Wheme started to T tell and produce good answers (which is the evening I was working and in the 5 hours window he got speedlynched). I claimed that I wouldve unvoted. Thats basically all I said about Wheme, my vote wasn't meant to be a lynch, it was meant to produce content.

I can see what your saying about Sakura somewhat, but you're expecting her to use the exact same route of logic on you.
The Wheme thing is just hearsay at this point imo so I really feel like there's not that much you can say to convince me rn. I guess the best you can do is point out Wheme's towntells.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also D1 if you had your choice of lynch when it came between you and unwnd, who would you have chosen at that time?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also D1 if you had your choice of lynch when it came between you and unwnd, who would you have chosen at that time?

As a person outside my slot and uwnd? Or as my slot?

Essentially I am asking your personal preference, so your slot

Also I just realized that maybe my behavior yday is in part explained because i was hangover and forgot to take my ADHD medication. I am very impulsive in nature, it's also pretty obvious I took it today with my 2 huge posts in a row

This post reminded me I hadn't taken my Adderall yet

[Gamma Emerald]

Essentially I am asking your personal preference, so your slot

Answering anything else than keeping my slot alive vs uwnd's slot would be outrageous.

Even from a 3rd view town pov, I can produce content faster than uwnd so I am easier to read. Im not sure what you were expecting from that question. Like, I would still prefer my slot alive over Sakura because role wise she is useless and I just trust myself more than I trust her read wise.

Let me rephrase: say you and unwnd were governed D1 at the time you voted unwnd. Who would you have pushed to be lynched?

[Gamma Emerald]

I wanted a lynch outside

This is why I'm asking what I'm asking. Who specifically outside of you two did you want lynched?

[Gamma Emerald]

A cult is a third party faction that seeks to recruit players into itself, as the MafiaWiki says. I follow this definition.

Wait! So a 3P faction that changes players alignments NOT to itself isn't a cult?

If that's true then Aeon are changing townies into Simotech, but then they have to maintain the balance between the two lest Simotech gains majority before Aeon outnumber the town.

I know many won't get it, but since I did something similar I can imagine a 3P working the scales to achieve their pwn win con. Simotech can win alone, or they can win with Aeon. Aeon can win alone (which is going to be bloody hard), or with Simotech. The Rebels must eliminate both Simotech and Aeon to win.

This makes 0 sense

It does to me. When I designed OK1 I made it so that the SKs would have to maintain the balance and not totally side with the main scum. If the town was defeated (eliminated) the game would end promptly and the SKs would have lost.

That is standard though

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a funny briefcase full of magic.

and a magic red wax seal

But you seem to have a red seal.

and redpanda has a green seal

Which seems to be the color of Aeon Technologies?

my seal color is rebel green.

Actually this is interesting. Could your seal being rebel green and you not bring able to neighborize Simotech be connected?

I don't know if it is but I know the reason why I can't neighborize simotech and it is because of my identity.

Ah.

[Gamma Emerald]

What ie everyone(minus Alisae)'s read on me rn?

[Gamma Emerald]

What

[Gamma Emerald]

giving fair warning that I might be extremely less active soon

Also why us this game dead

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean the stalling is a point in your favor but Idk about anything else

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't have any?

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
Earlier tonight I realized my vote was on PK and I doubt he's scum rn
Fyi I want to lynch someone outside the main suspects rn because I think scum are totally content to let one of those happen. So probably no lynching PK, Oversoul, Cloudy, or A50. Add/remove whomever I forgot/mistakenly added

[Gamma Emerald]

Is it funnier that panda cant get me lynched if he is aeon or

town

i wonder?

What?

[Gamma Emerald]

replaced out onto an alt to not get linked to their earlier play

not why i replaced, but okay

And yet, no alternate explanation.

I'm beginning to rethink my decision to spare you

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: claude
I really just don't like this slot rn it has nothing useful

[Gamma Emerald]

replaced out onto an alt to not get linked to their earlier play

not why i replaced, but okay

And yet, no alternate explanation.

I'm beginning to rethink my decision to spare you

lol i was neither asked nor given a sufficient reason to disclose my personal line of thought on the matter.

When you are accused it is always a good idea to dispel the accusation

[Gamma Emerald]

Why not Claude over Primate owo

[Gamma Emerald]

Fish is just pisskop

[Gamma Emerald]

What part of boisterous and shitposty isnt quite sinking in? because thats what I typically aim, purposely try, to play as.

then I come in with an account with the intention of not being a total asshat, and you go out of your way to drag that same personality -with it proven record of surviving and winning- out.

Why did it take SOOOO MANY PAGES to mention this.

This was mentioned earlier I recall

[Gamma Emerald]

I dont really care about either claude or primate mechanically but lynching primate would help me much more solve the game, also ego

How is that in any way relevant to what I just posted?

[Gamma Emerald]

MY play is in line with a gambiting shitposter (who piss is)

This is what I mean

[Gamma Emerald]

Also having read through a fair chuck of piss+fish posts again I still think they're shady AF

[Gamma Emerald]

For one thing despite their last apparent read on Sakura bring town their vote still seem to be there.

[Gamma Emerald]

Then why not respond to a more relevant post

[Gamma Emerald]

If you explain how primate being better for associations outweighs rectifying a dead-in-the-water slot, sure

[Gamma Emerald]

If you explain how primate being better for associations outweighs rectifying a dead-in-the-water slot, sure

better odds than random distribution imo

iirc slots that end up replaced a lot, especially for inactivity, are more likely scum

[Gamma Emerald]

fish is proven letter sender so he couldnt have used a bad factional ability yday

Why can't scum be multitasking

[Gamma Emerald]

Why am I 'dead in the water'? Looks to me like this lynch isnt going to happen, hunh

You aren't dead in the water, Claude is

[Gamma Emerald]

Also you showing selective cognizance is not good at all

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum’s on me. Gamma’s probably scum. He should know inactivity and lack of content is NAI from me.

I think the inactivity tell works better on you than you'd like people to believe
Plus your slot is a contentless mess anyway

[Gamma Emerald]

The fact NO ONE is really considering Claude despite the facts
> Chemist has been useless
> Claude has been useless
> Despite what he tells you Claude lurking is a fairly accurate scumtell
> the sum total of productivity from that slot is near-zero
> that slot has been poked in the past for inactivity
Really tells me I'm right.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't TR Primate off play but the fact that he is the option being taken if Claude makes me think he is town

[Gamma Emerald]

I really dislike that Alisea is naked sheeping dun when she hasnt really showed any effort in reading the slot

Lawl

[Gamma Emerald]

I really dislike that Alisea is naked sheeping dun when she hasnt really showed any effort in reading the slot

Lawl

?

Alisae knows Dunn is a Mason iirc

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Claude

Seems like a decent lynch to me - I agree that the super low activity from 2 people across the game is scum indicative

Why did we stop pressuring RedPanda for the Aeon thing by the way?

Both wheme and claude were/are contentless/scummy, i think this is a lazy lynch

Wheme wasn't contentless as much as the content he did have was bad

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Claude

Seems like a decent lynch to me - I agree that the super low activity from 2 people across the game is scum indicative

Why did we stop pressuring RedPanda for the Aeon thing by the way?

Both wheme and claude were/are contentless/scummy, i think this is a lazy lynch

Wheme wasn't contentless as much as the content he did have was bad

Chemist/Claude are null, they havent made an effort
Primate made an effort and his posts are awful, what gives

See my list of points against Chemist+Claude
And to add to why not Primate, as it is Primate can contribute to discussion which Claude isn't doing.

[Gamma Emerald]

what about primate scumclaim d2 hammer

Not sure how it is a scumclaim, again?

[Gamma Emerald]

Well... i do have a comprehensible list of reads that I posted yesterday, and not much has made it change since then.

what about primate scumclaim d2 hammer

Not sure how it is a scumclaim, again?

He was 2nd wagon option, there was no reason he hammered the way he did. It was out of the blue as in to end the day as fast as possible.

It is somewhat incoherent because he showed earlier that he valued people who unvoted to think about their reads when he appealed to me, this is a bit off w/ his hammer
+
He hammered and felt compelled to justify himself immediately which is an implied admission of guilty that he was very aware his hammer is scummy.

Is town more concerned about if their vote is on town or how towny their hammer will look the next day? This is not a town pov

This actually makes sense
But I'm not going to take back the stand I took today.

[Gamma Emerald]

That kinda predicates itself on PP flipping in the near future, or maybe the inverse

[Gamma Emerald]

I think plenty of people engage their scumreads, it's a sign of humility, where you admit you might be wrong and as such are willing to attempt to figure out if you are :p
But in all seriousness I don't see anything that sticks out as weird
Pedit: what?

[Gamma Emerald]

Please slow down a little

[Gamma Emerald]

Looks pretty good for almost if that's the reason PP was killed, scum actually thought he was a cop.

Does this looks like someone who got validated in believing a strong TRd slot flipped mafia despite everyone's read?

Okay breaking this down I think your point on this makes sense

[Gamma Emerald]

How is that complacent?

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean he is firing off a lot of questions in what you're quoting but I don't trust that as a scumtell