Mini 2089: Zero Escape Mafia: The Nonary Game

[NaCl]

Cool, we're starting.

VOTE: ClearlyClarity

[NaCl]

Slow game so far.

So, out of curiosity, do the people who asked about this want to come forward?

In addition, since multiple people have asked: Flavor is not based on one specific Zero Escape game, and canon alignment is not necessarily indicative of game alignment. The terms "Town" and "Mafia" are for game purposes only.

[NaCl]

Eh, I pick 4.

[NaCl]

Okay, let's get this moving. Because I don't really think saying numbers is going to get very far.

Dunnstral, why didn't you say it was L-1 when you made your vote?

Shiro, why aren't you voting?

Nitronerd, what's the goal behind everyone saying a number?

[NaCl]

VOTE: NacL
Serious vote
this games early game is pretty trash. We need to get some votes on here.

I'm also interested in hearing why you're voting me.

Dunnstral, why didn't you say it was L-1 when you made your vote?

I said it was 11, is that close enough?

Voyc was the 2nd person to vote Nitro but when it reached L-1 they switched their vote to Shiro for no reason which is interesting. Possible partner interaction where Voyc was bussing a bit early. They're the one who did the scummy thing so I'll vote them

VOTE: Voyc

I don't really think 11 is quite the same thing, though I also sort of agree with your reasoning on Voyc. Not going to vote her yet, of course.

Anyone here played the series?

I've played all 3 games.

[NaCl]

any questions for me?

I've got one for you now. And Nitronerd as well. How do you feel about where your vote is right now?

[NaCl]

Voyc was the 2nd person to vote Nitro but when it reached L-1 they switched their vote to Shiro for no reason which is interesting. Possible partner interaction where Voyc was bussing a bit early. They're the one who did the scummy thing so I'll vote them

I didn't really like the threat of a quickhammer hanging around
But fair

@CC,
I only really know the first one, but I've been meaning to get Virtue's Last Reward for a while now

Why didn't you mention it when while you were unvoting?

Vibing a bit with Maria rn

VOTE: NaCl

Ew, that's a bad reason. VOTE: PonchoMonkey

[NaCl]

clearly town, maria town, dunn scum, voyc scum, nitronerd third party

Do you mean Voyc and Dunn together? I don't think that's likely, given how Dunn was the one to vote on Voyc and then she soon got put up to L-1 right after.

[NaCl]

Also, I'm not sure where the nitronerd = 3p is coming from.

[NaCl]

Ew, that's a bad reason

What do you think of Maria's reason, then?

Part of it for me was that your questions gave me the impression that you were looking more to look like you were doing things than to actually move anything forward. It's not a strong read, but it's more of one than I had on Voyc

I'm not actually taking it seriously. I think she's just trying to move things along and get things going. And why would I need to look like I was doing things? There's plenty of people who don't look like they're doing that, I could blend in just fine.

Nitro, are you going to do anything with those numbers or are you going to continue playing LAMIST?

I find it shocking you actually thought the numbers had any meanin gin the first place

Eh, I did too. Given the flavor of the game it's pretty easy for me to imagine them being part of some mechanic. I find the third-party theory plausible enough. Only real hangup is wondering how they were supposed to be able to pass off making everyone give them a random number as normal behavior, from a game-design perspective

What? I don't find that to be likely at all.

[NaCl]

I feel like the game is still in an RVS state, don't feel like voting reasons have been effectively established

I don't think they're well-established, but I'd say we're out of RVS...and we'd better be, with about 2 days left.

Nitronerd, how do you feel about a Voyc lynch? I'd initially said Dunn's reason was valid, but looking back, I was a bit impulsive, it seems less likely now. Anyways, your vote is still there, could you tell me if you're comfortable with that?

[NaCl]

I'll hammer if we can't get something else, just for the sake of getting a lynch through. I don't really feel great about it, but at this point it would wind up like that for most lynches, really.

Nitronerd is also an okay lynch with me.

ClearlyClarity seems townish to me from 49, but apart from that her posting's just kind of meh. I'm not really in favour of that lynch though.

[NaCl]

Well, this day phase sure was productive.

VOTE: Voyc

[NaCl]

Then why aren't you voting, ClearlyClarity?

Although it seems a bit unlikely that both scum would replace out (or at least not that it would mean anything to alignment). In my mind, the first day didn't go so well. Or at the very least I didn't get much of a good read on most people.

I don't really like Shiro's reason for saying I'm town but Dunn's probably town. Still, Nitronerd's slot is worse.

VOTE: BillyPilgrim

[NaCl]

I've narrowed it down to {Doctor Drew, Shiro, Billy Pilgrim} for reasons.

I think a massclaim later in the day is in order.

Adding MariaR to this

Ew, this lynchpool doesn't mean anything. That's half the game.

[NaCl]

Slow game so far.

So, out of curiosity, do the people who asked about this want to come forward?

In addition, since multiple people have asked: Flavor is not based on one specific Zero Escape game, and canon alignment is not necessarily indicative of game alignment. The terms "Town" and "Mafia" are for game purposes only.

I'm bringing this up again because it may be relevant.

MariaR, did you happen to discuss this in your neighbourhood PT? Also, have you played the Zero Escape games before?

[NaCl]

I gave intent several hours before the actual hammer post. Voyc didn't say her role. Even if she did, I don't know if that would have stopped me.

[NaCl]

Nacl, just gonna call you Salty from now on, just to be clear.

But...

What do you think of Clearlys posts today?

Yeah, the name's fine.

I agree with the things that she's saying, I just don't like the way that she's saying it. But she's probably town.

Doctor Drew, do you think there's scum on the Voyc lynch? If so, who?

[NaCl]

@Doctor Drew

Doctor Drew, do you think there's scum on the Voyc lynch? If so, who?

[NaCl]

@Doctor Drew

Doctor Drew, do you think there's scum on the Voyc lynch? If so, who?

Oops sorry about forgetting about this.

Considering the people who aren't on the wagon(my previous incarnation, Maria, and Clearly(who is clearly scum(heh))).

Yes, I would say one scum was on the wagon, don't think it is Nitro.....not sure who would be scum on the wagon at this moment tbh.

Why do you think it's not Nitro/Billy?

[NaCl]

VOTE: DoctorDrew

You don't just naked vote change to Billy and put him to L-1 without making some kind of explanation on him. I'm trying to see how you're thinking of him compared to Shiro, Dunnstral, etc. How do you go from "nothing stood out" to voting him without an explanation?

[NaCl]

I gave intent several hours before the actual hammer post. Voyc didn't say her role. Even if she did, I don't know if that would have stopped me.

A doctor claim wouldn't have stopped you from lynching?

Depends on when it was given. If she was just running out the clock to suddenly spring a doctor claim when there's no time to get another lynch, yes I would have hammered. That's super sketchy.

[NaCl]

And the more I think on it I really don't like Billy sheeping my vote so quickly. Seems a bit forced, and OMGUS.

VOTE: Billy

VOTE: DoctorDrew

You don't just naked vote change to Billy and put him to L-1 without making some kind of explanation on him. I'm trying to see how you're thinking of him compared to Shiro, Dunnstral, etc. How do you go from "nothing stood out" to voting him without an explanation?

Ugh, I shouldn't post first things in the morning after waking up, I completely missed this.
UNVOTE:

Still, could you talk a bit about Shiro and what you think of her? Because I generally agree with her statement that there was scum on the wagon, I just don't know if it was Billy.

[NaCl]

Hey, Shiro, why do you think Dunnstral is town? I know that from your point of view that makes you focus on Billy, but I didn't really see the explanation on why you thought Dunnstral was town.

Also, Dunnstral, do you have the same kind of townread on Shiro?

Doctor Drew, do you have any townreads on people aside from me?

[NaCl]

Meh, fine.

VOTE: Shiro

Although I'm having doubts on MariaR at this point, why do you think she's town?

[NaCl]

Aside from the vote on Voyc what makes you think Shiro is scum?

I really don't...I just think one of you is scum but now I'm not even that sure.

Hey, Shiro, why do you think Dunnstral is town? I know that from your point of view that makes you focus on Billy, but I didn't really see the explanation on why you thought Dunnstral was town.

Also, Dunnstral, do you have the same kind of townread on Shiro?

Doctor Drew, do you have any townreads on people aside from me?

I just kinda do

Oh no, I think I know exactly what you're talking about. And that might make you town then...and possibly also make Billy town. Okay, let's try something else. Do you think MariaR is scum? I'm not sure if you've noticed this one thing with the setup. But if you're not scum she probably is.

[NaCl]

Sorry, why is MariaR claiming neighbour a town thing to do?

[NaCl]

Er, it's not necessarily scummy, I just find it NAI more than anything else.

[NaCl]

Er, I think you're misunderstanding neighbour. You might want to look back through the role PM for northsidegal. Scum neighbours can exist.

[NaCl]

I'm not sure. Because I'd also been townreading her (MariaR) previously. But there's something in the setup I'd rather not say that makes me think one of Shiro and MariaR is scum. The other issue is that when I look at it, I can't possibly see Shiro as a scum team with anyone based on her interactions with the rest. The only possible person I could see Shiro as scum with is MariaR...which again, leads me to be more interested in lynching MariaR.

At this point I'm not really convinced about Shiro. So I'm sort of preferring MariaR, second choice being Billy Pilgrim. But we don't have much time.

Would be really nice if someone else would talk, really. Dunnstral, do you have the same kind of read on Shiro that she has on you?

Billy, who's scum?

[NaCl]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Billy Pilgrim

Shiro, I stuck around a bit longer on your wagon because I was kind of hoping to get a bit more information out of you but now I'm worried that scum might hammer. It's hard to tell if you're the role I think you are but I'm going to trust that you know what you're doing. I would kind of like a flavour claim but I don't really think it would tell me anything on it's own.

I would prefer a MariaR lynch but Billy is okay. I was worried about Drew+MariaR earlier but I don't see that as a possible team now.


Hey, Dunnstral, have you played Virtue's Last Reward? And also, do you have a townread on Shiro for similar reasons that she gave for hers on you?

[NaCl]

Oh, that's L-1.

[NaCl]

Shiro, if it sounds like I know your role then I'm like 70% sure I do. If what I'm saying sounds crazy, then I'm clearly way off track. But I'm trying to get some sort of confirmation about it without actually saying it.

[NaCl]

I really want to get some sort of signal from Shiro that I'm on the right track. Or on the wrong one. And I guess it's individually safer not to flavour claim, but I'm not sure if scum will notice. After all both you and Billy haven't noticed what I'm talking about.

The issue is that I can't tell if Shiro doesn't know what I'm talking about because I'm completely out of my mind, or that I'm right but she's not picking up the clues that I hope I'm sending.

[NaCl]

Billy, out of all the players in the game, why did you investigate Northsidegal?

[NaCl]

Billy, can you flavour claim as well at this point?

[NaCl]

Um...could I see that theory article? I've never heard "cop your townreads" before.

[NaCl]

Anyways, I'm kind of okay with lynching this spot. But I'm really worried that I'm going to be NK'd afterwards, so I'm going to get my thoughts out.

Mostly sure that Billy is scum. I think his partner is most likely MariaR. Shiro's out because of her push on him and Drew's probably town.

However, if Billy is town, then it's ClearlyClarity and someone else. Dunnstral or Shiro. Still not Drew, and probably not MariaR.

Drew, I think your lynchpool is very correct if we're wrong on this and make sure you don't lose sight of it if I'm NK'd.

[NaCl]

I really want to hear from ClearlyClarity and MariaR before you do, though. If possible.

[NaCl]

Hmm......starting to think we shouldn't lynch Billy.

Salty, would love to go back to Shiro, but can do Clearly.

No, I still sort of think we should go with this. But after thinking about things again, Clearly's my second strongest scum read (independent of Billy). If he flips town, 100% lynch Clearly.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Billy Pilgrim

Shiro, I stuck around a bit longer on your wagon because I was kind of hoping to get a bit more information out of you but now I'm worried that scum might hammer. It's hard to tell if you're the role I think you are but I'm going to trust that you know what you're doing. I would kind of like a flavour claim but I don't really think it would tell me anything on it's own.

I would prefer a MariaR lynch but Billy is okay. I was worried about Drew+MariaR earlier but I don't see that as a possible team now.


Hey, Dunnstral, have you played Virtue's Last Reward? And also, do you have a townread on Shiro for similar reasons that she gave for hers on you?

I've seen some of virtue's last reward

I didn't see anything flavor-related for Shiro, no - and any character can be any alignment anyway

Actually, I'm fine not discussing flavour (but I think it is role-related with Seven being a cop claim and Carlos being a doctor, as well as MariaR's hinted claim). Anyways, I didn't quite understand. You do have a townread on Shiro, right? I just wanted to confirm that.

[NaCl]

Nacl you are probably not on the right track.

Okay...well, this changes things. But you're still probably town and Billy's scum. I'm staying on this lynch.

[NaCl]

Meh, actually I'm done messing around.

I CC. I'm Alice, town cop. Inno on Dunnstral N1.

Please don't ask me questions and just hammer.

I was going to die anyways tonight I'm fairly sure. I'd rather get my inno out early.

Please go after ClearlyClarity when I die.

[NaCl]

At this point I am 110% sure on ClearlyClarity being scum, the only reason I want Billy is for the CC.

[NaCl]

Thank you. When I flip Alice tomorrow, please go after ClearlyClarity.

[NaCl]

Okay, well, that worked. GG everyone.

Sorry I confused people from my last few posts. I guess I didn't quite get the message across.

CC had claimed to me N1 that she was cop, but I didn't KNOW her role or alignment, though I believed her.
What I was trying to do was get a situation where if Billy was scum, I'd eat the NK so she could keep investigating and out her results tomorrow, and if Billy was the real cop, it would draw attention to her being my neighbour and you could lynch her afterwards. I guess I just wound up confusing people, though...but it all worked out in the end.

[NaCl]

Hold on, didn't even realize.

There were only 2 scum?

Well, it was only 9p. And the setup info said it was either 7/2/0 or 6/2/1.