Project ARCH - Epilogue

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fosing me when we have played hundreds of games

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So what's the reasoning for lynching wheme with no masons voting him?

Wow so what, one of the companies is outright the scum team? That seems like bad design.

Based on what?

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VOTE: fish monger

Reasons:

1) It's still fred the cat's slot and that replace out is more likely to come from scum
2) Slots with a high turnover rate of players are more likely to be scum
3) Pisskop's claimed role showed up on someone else who was town

Oh wait, here's a bonus

4) The company that Wheme belonged to, GenX, is identified by a blue color, and he sent out a blue envelope. Pisskop claims to send out red envelopes. We have not seen a company that is red, and it very well could be simotech that is red.

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I did not notice that PP was mafia aligned (he flipped as green)

Oh, and I'm from Iustitia, if you care to know.

What is the flavor behind you being Iustitia?

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shut up

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So yeah Iustitia I literally know nothing about it. What does the flavor say on them, Rainn?

"Lead War was a very cruel war, fought between three massive corporations: Simotech, IUSTITIA and Aeon Technologies. They made it all happen, every single thing."

Oh. Oh.

Oh.

Lustitia might be the new rebels tbh.

I thought you said you were Iustitia?

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According to flavor the Johnson and Family company is helping simotech (and being paid for it) to build a huge building for them, and when the work is done, they plan to get the hell out of this "war".

Apparently, there's only two people in this company as well.

Then...yeah?

ok. So... is there another person like Bambi here?

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According to flavor the Johnson and Family company is helping simotech (and being paid for it) to build a huge building for them, and when the work is done, they plan to get the hell out of this "war".

Apparently, there's only two people in this company as well.

Then...yeah?

ok. So... is there another person like Bambi here?

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In 47 he claims to share a wincon with Aeon.
in 49 he says if I nk him Im 'he worst kind of player'.

He literally scumclaimed in there?

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Why was he fixated on Aeon and why did he say he shares an alignment with Aeon

This was all before Penguin flipped, right?

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At this point I really thought I was the nk and I was trying to claim aeon traitor to get him to move it to someone else.

How did you know aeon was an evil faction???

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If you thought he was scum trying to kill you why did you claim Aeon instead of Simotech at that point?

I think the context for the "scumclaim" makes it seem reasonable.

Because of my ability? a meeting wouldn't happen if I targeted simotech and something bad would happen.

Ok but how does that make you know that aeon is the bad faction?

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I don't like this lynch

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OK... a lot of people are waiting for me

Give me a bit

In the meantime I'm looking at Claud and remembering that it was the chemist slot and noticing that they're still not doing anything

Or rather, is anyone against voting oversoul?

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VOTE: Claude

Seems like a decent lynch to me - I agree that the super low activity from 2 people across the game is scum indicative

Why did we stop pressuring RedPanda for the Aeon thing by the way?

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Dun were you in a PT with mariar?

Nope

... Wait. Masons in Multiball are weird shit. I was a Werewolf in a Masonry before.

Dunn, what does your Masonry specifically make you? Not Simotech or Not Aeon?

I'm aligned with the rebels and Rauth shares my alignment is what it says

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Who got serum from our gifter?

Weren't they turned into a miller several nights ago?

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Honestly I think Cloud might actually have info with how he's acting. I'll see if he explains it though.

Meh, its from an old MariaR's post and im not sure i read it correctly after all

She wasn't a cop

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Reading a50's role it's possibly for a strongman on mariar/ankamius to have caused 2 deaths

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Actually I don't think that a50 was bodyguarding maria

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When did you mention it?

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Nevermind

I wonder where MariaR is, there is something i need to talk about with them.

Ah yeah i hinted it a bit here

But there you go i did mention MariaR sending me a message.
I just didnt know that it was her sending me a message it could've been something related to something else.

Wait, so how could 4335 have been hinting at anything?

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But i received a very disturbing PM at day start.

if you have info it would be helpful to out it?

Im not sure if it's helpful.
But the PM treated me as "User 17" so i assume MariaR is involved in some way.

So Maria was softing her role, which means that if somebody else received the messages then they may have suspected she was something she wasn't?

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Ankamius' PM did the same thing although it said way more, MariaR's one was creepy.

What do you mean? Weren't they the same slot?

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I'm thinking that oversoul is town... or at least that he was a serum vendor that turned into a miller, but I guess it's possible for him to be aeon still off of that. I'm leaning town

For fish: their posting seems kind of towny to me and I'm leaning town there too

Primate: Not looking good and his vote history is really bad

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I'm thinking that oversoul is town... or at least that he was a serum vendor that turned into a miller, but I guess it's possible for him to be aeon still off of that. I'm leaning town

For fish: their posting seems kind of towny to me and I'm leaning town there too

Primate: Not looking good and his vote history is really bad

outside primate, who do you think is mafia?

Do you think theres a deepwolf?

I'll think about it

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RCS's 2nd head never posted in game then she replaced out.

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Primate, can you claim why you needed the serum today?

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It only affects factional pts?

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I think panda is a weaker lynch town could be making, even if he is aeon.

Why?

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Alisae is town

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I think panda is a weaker lynch town could be making, even if he is aeon.

Why?

because I still kind of TR him for his hood nonsense.

Didn't you say he needed to die earlier when Gamma said something?

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^ Is that hammer? What's up buddy

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So was Oversoul lying when he said he was turned into a miller?

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It doesn't seem like we have a vigilante - it looks like Aeon and Simotech are both killing people to me. I doubt the event changed Aeon's alignment

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You can leave notes for your replace-in FTR, especially for stuff like softs as scum, so that rationale is a bit silly. Rainn's slot has a lot more going his way than only his claim

But would somebody who was replaced due to activity leave notes for their predecessor?

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also

1 i faked bg to try to draw some kind of nk. my roke says i may or may not have any hidden power.
2 panda, saki, and focus on the masons. its not too sketch that the largely lurkerish masons are not dead -yet, but lets not conf our eggs

There are 2 dead Aeon and 2 dead Simotech

For us to be anti-town, one of the anti-town factions would have to have 4 people in it. Do you think that is possible?

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Rauth says it's unlikely any corperation has only one member in it, and since people who are Aeon are fakeclaiming other corporations, corporations with only 2 claimed members shouldn't have Aeon inside of them

If we buy into that and are looking for Aeon, that leaves Fish Monger, Alisae, Sakura Hana, and RedPanda

It excludes me, Rauth, KidAmn, Bambi Jay, and Cloudkicker

Do we buy into that?

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Woah, why did Elsa suddenly post in her cousin's game? not cool

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If I invite simotech to my meeting I get assasinated before the meeting takes place.

So are you an investigative role or what?

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I'm leaning towards this instead:

VOTE: Fish Monger

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also

1 i faked bg to try to draw some kind of nk. my roke says i may or may not have any hidden power.
2 panda, saki, and focus on the masons. its not too sketch that the largely lurkerish masons are not dead -yet, but lets not conf our eggs

There are 2 dead Aeon and 2 dead Simotech

For us to be anti-town, one of the anti-town factions would have to have 4 people in it. Do you think that is possible?

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Wait up piss. I have proof that I'm not scum.

did you send your seal last night?

Whoever has the green seal sent it to me

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Work in progress PoE list:

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Rautherdir
Cloudkicker
KidAmn
Bambi Jay
Alisae
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Fish Monger
RedPanda

There happy?

Dunn do u think im going wrong somewhere?

I'm pretty sure that Alisae is town

I am unaware of the reason KidAmn is town, but I think there was one... what was it?

RedPanda looks like ~Not Aeon~ to me, I kind of believe him saying he knew about Aeon too (though.... that doesn't make him town)

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A strongman died

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Power has a price.
If you perform a kill, you may pay 4 serum to make it a strongman kill, effectively ignoring any protection they may have. Once used, this has an upkeep of 1 serum each night.

From Oversoul

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Wait I don't get what you're saying redpanda. Why does Aeon have a strongman?

I don't even think Aeon has a factional kill right now, it seems there's been 1 kill a night, and when there is 2 kills there's a reason from the town (town vig, town bodyguard)

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also

1 i faked bg to try to draw some kind of nk. my roke says i may or may not have any hidden power.
2 panda, saki, and focus on the masons. its not too sketch that the largely lurkerish masons are not dead -yet, but lets not conf our eggs

There are 2 dead Aeon and 2 dead Simotech

For us to be anti-town, one of the anti-town factions would have to have 4 people in it. Do you think that is possible?

Is there some reason why you can't fullclaim? Iustia flavor looks like they aren't that different from simotech and aeon and that event joining a stronger faction is susp.

Nobody asked us to.

Sure, it doesn't really matter - either of us can spend 1 serum at any time to open our pt for 1 day and 1 night. This isn't an action, it can happen in the middle of the day/night and can't be roleblocked.

As a separate passive ability, we know that we're both town together

Inside of the pt the flavor strongly suggests that we are the only members of Iustitia (The guy from the intro is saying it's just the three of us, he's going to go out there and talk to everyone, etc)

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Can Aeon even kill?

I don't think we have an answer for that yet. I believe the additional kills we've seen were a result of town roles + the strongman

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Also would maifa really try to hit MariaR?

And that strongman was expensive and has an upkeep... would they really use it on Maria for seemingly no reason?

It does seem like that was a dual kill night

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Dunn are u aligned with iustia or rebels? does it say if rauth is aligned with iustia or rebels?

We're aligned with the rebels

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I want to know if it says in dunns pm if it specifically mentions rauth rebel or iustia.

It says that he shares my alignment and that he was sent by Iustitia, and that he knows those things about me as well

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So who did Fish Monger give the red envelope to today?

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So who did Fish Monger give the red envelope to today?

I didnt act last night
I ironically sent my seal to a50 night 3

Why didn't you act last night?

He was too busy making the factional kill

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After I was the lynchpin in the primate swing

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I confirm panda sent me a letter, the guy can proves himself everynight

Ah... So... That leaves the Masons? I'm fucking confused.

UNVOTE:

I could also believe Tanaka or whoever in Alisae's slot DID in fact basically hint Roleblocker by claiming it as a joke and they RBd Sakura which stopped the assumed kill on me.

I'll wait until the Masons and Alisae are here before voting again.

Once again, there's 2 members of each factions dead. If me and Rauth were anti-town, where would we go? Both on Aeon/Simotech and the game is 4-2 for scum teams?

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I haven't dismissed anyone or anything. Like I said, there are a lot of uncertain slots that could be scum.

But I'm confident that my lynch order kills enough of the scum early to give us enough serum to make the rest of the game easy.

Nah, my scum ability is to reset serum for everyone, since im 3rd in line thats, your above statement is untrue :/

Hopefully someone roleblocks you then :)

man i'm scared this lynch just doesn't go through.

whatever, someone can roleblock ck or something

VOTE: Unwnd

He didnt claim anything of the sort, he basically said he had the sample role claim

WHICH WAS LITERALLY AN ACTIVATED BP.

if you're town CK you're actually in a special tier of awful player.

Here are his actual softs by the way and not the little meme that obviously wasn't a soft, he roleblocked CK

Which narrows down our lynch pool for today

As for the roleblocker, they were on Cloudkicker night 1.

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Who has the green letter that redpanda hands out?

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However, there was no kill, and it would have killed Alisae if Sakura was targeted

So where else could the kill have gone?

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And who has the red letter that fishmonger hands out?

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Oh right, he's dead, whoops

I don't think I trust the green letter going to somebody different every day, it could have a rider effect on it

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Do we believe that RedPanda gives out a letter instead of nightkilling somebody?

Alternatively, there's the theory that scum kill on alternate nights and something is going on with that

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Oh right, he's dead, whoops

I don't think I trust the green letter going to somebody different every day, it could have a rider effect on it

Flavor wise it make no sens to send an invitation to business to the same person

So he's roleplaying...?

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Oversoul said something about ascetic too, or rather he said he got turned into a miller

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You're forgetting the possibility of scum being unable to kill.

Lack of serum?

I think that's unlikely with how much serum is floating around now

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I am not convinced by the RP lynch

@Dunn & Raut

And I'm not convinced by an Alisae lynch

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Also, RedPanda claimed Aeon traitor in a private thread with Fish Monger. Which would explain your contention of RedPanda bringing up Aeon as a faction in early game and also explain why Primate (who was Aeon) latching onto me bringing up Aeon as a faction in early game.

Yes this is still a thing and even with explanations afterwards it looks sketchy like something that could come from Aeon

Noting that there appears to be 2 anti-town left assuming 3 on each side

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multi scum where scum don't know each other and an aeon traitor who don't know both scumteams. I mean, is that actually what you guys think?

I've already said I caught Pisskop in a lie in my pt. He claimed no power earlier in my pt and then claimed bg in the thread. When I called him out on it, he replaced out. But I 95% thought he replaced back in with an alt was pretending. He went silent in my pt and all of it is proved my pisskop himself admitting his lie in this thread. Since I knew pisskop couldn't be simotech, I chose the next best faction as something I could bait him on, so that he wouldn't kill me.

Did this happen during the night?

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ATM I want to lynch Bambi more than I want anyone else

For what?