BTE: Boon Wars - Revenge of the Jingle

[Obi Someth Kenobi]

Use the forks, Homer, use the forks!

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dead game is dead. dont expect much activity from anyone until some other games go into night i guess

It's hillarious how we're all more hiding than scumhunting.

Quite. Also, mountainous.

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Seems like i'm flying solo in this one.

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Can someone explain the votes on us to us please. We don't see the point, especially since we are inactive at this point.

Wagons do not lead to posts.

Iso palpatine and let us know what you think.

Lousy.

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Im interested in pressuring this

VOTE: Padme

Good luck, I’ll mention you when I feel pressured

VOTE: Padme

Are you feeling the heat yet?

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also nobody on a first page vote on palpatine.

I dont follow

What is the point of this post?

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There will come a time where it will be obvious who is who, but I don't see day one as the time to drop pretenses.
If that means a lower info lynch, then, okay.

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I think this game is still in RVS phase where no one is actually placing any weight on any votes. Are we going to get out of this phase soon or what?

I think it will take a cycle for this game to go places, although i'm not optimistic.

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I have 3 minor townleans that can be exempted from my vote for now.
That's all i've got.

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when i saw mace was the kill i thought they did something very right or very wrong. but then i went back and saw they said they had no scum reads. peculiar.

My guess is scum thought they knew who it was, but got it wrong, since we are still in active phase. I'm not sure what else the knowledge of identities could really relate to.

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Basically take everything Irrelph said and I think the opposite

Tend to agree.

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So, that D1 scum lynch. We're thinking multiple busing, yeah?

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I was aggressively prodded at night. I'm aware I didn't post for around 8 days and I think I should address that. I expected to be replaced. I've had a hectic period and i'm also sick. My "partner" has never posted, i'm alone here. (Sucks this happens every time I hydra tbh). These are lame excuses, but they are also facts.
I know it looks bad that I was absent at deadline; I didn't realize when it was. I'd have joined the Beazda wagon of the two, fwiw. Probably should have been an extension given the circumstances.
I will make an attempt to play now, if I can't then this will be the end of me clinging to this slot.
I'm at the point where I no longer particularly care about concealing my identity so i'm fine speaking more freely.

between grievous and baezda we would rather lynch baezda and if town have them vig obi. if obi is scum thats great and if not then we get rid of town dead weight.

oh. its over. glgl

i say kill obi if you want my opinion

This objectively scummy - Why push for killing an absent slot instead of requesting replacement? I townread Ki Adi for the most part, but this needs to be called out and warrants lowering your slot a notch or two. Same will apply to A50 if I find out who he is.

On the flip side, DEB's soft defense of me in #750 is +town equity, scum had no need to defend me.

Town:
DEB
Shiro
TyTitus
Arist (just based on today's posting)

Nulltown:
Ki Adi
Padme

Nullscum:
Nute

Scum:
Irrelph
RCEP0

I townread Padme's spew much earlier, but I think his identity reveal was real, and the apparent lack of punishment for this is possibly scum indicative. I also know that insomnia is capable of putting up a lot of content as scum.

I won't mind being vengekilled. Secret hydra games aren't very suitable for me.

Comments like this tend to come from scum, in my experience.
VOTE: RCEP0

If anyone has questions for me, go nuts.

[Obi Someth Kenobi]

I have nightmares of a later game state with me, RCEP0, Baezda, Obiwan, and a reincarnated Palpiboy

HELP ME OBIWAN
YOU ARE MY ONLY HOPE

One down, two to go!

[Obi Someth Kenobi]

Obi is probably town.

If anyone has questions for me, go nuts.

Is there any reason to go RCE over Irrele today?

Since the day has just started, i'm going with my strongest read.
The time for compromise, is later.

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I have nightmares of a later game state with me, RCEP0, Baezda, Obiwan, and a reincarnated Palpiboy

HELP ME OBIWAN
YOU ARE MY ONLY HOPE

One down, two to go!

Please continue to be active so I don't get the heebie jeebies sheeping your vote

I'll try. No promises.

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Town:
DEB
Shiro
TyTitus
Arist (just based on today's posting)

Nulltown:
Ki Adi
Padme

Nullscum:
Nute

Scum:
Irrelph
RCEP0

Your reads seem to be ignoring the Palps wagon completely
Ki Adi started the wagon with literally no reason to, if they were their scum partner that makes no sense
Same with Nute following suit (and Mace but he's dead)

It's true that i've not done any wagon analysis yet. I tend to do this later in the game if i'm around.
However, leading a scum lynch on d1 in a large mountainous game is +scum equity if anything, and certainly not a reason to discount them.
Check any recent mountainous games with a D1 scum lynch - pretty much always scum fueled.

Calling for a venge on you, considering you weren't posting, is not that bad

It is though, since as far as I can tell Ki Adi didn't have any suspicion of me prior. Wanting an absent slot killed rather than replaced is a scum inclination.

[Obi Someth Kenobi]

I think I can do better than a lurker right now, even though I really want RCEP0 dead (I am a little meh on it now that Obi is voting it too)

Pre-flip associatives are trash. Lynch the scummiest player.
The absence aside, do you suspect me based on what I

have

posted?

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The Worst joins Handsome He’s.

Well, that confirms Padme. The worst is always scum.

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Oh hi Obi, talk to me about how you have DEB as top town seeing how he doesn't give a shit about town lynches

#750 gave me a good feeling about them, I then scanned their iso and found it to be consistent with this initial feeling. On your latter point, I haven't noticed that to be the case. Where have they done this?
Also, the town parts of my read list are not ordered.

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On the flip side, DEB's soft defense of me in #750 is +town equity, scum had no need to defend me.

A really solid defence, yes. I wonder if he would've gone afk on your lynch as well.

Scum benefits from calling an AWOL slot town without having to defend them because when you get pmed or whatever that you have to venge someone because you've been lynched, you'll see posts like that and shoot your pushers instead.

This is a fair point.

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Were they the person who was trying to put a lot of stock on flavor? That's probably why

How is this towny though? Their thoughts make no sense, multiple people pointed out the issues in their case and they didn't care, and now they're continuing to push that read into d3, DESPITE FG flipping town directly contradicting their narrative. And they've been using that, alone, to justify pushes on DEB and to hop on the FG wagon.

Opposite reason. Scum puts more effort in a read than this

Too dumb to be scum
I think they genuinely believe it which is hilarious but also not scummy

Too dumb to be scum isn't a thing. Your implication seems to be all scum put in effort, which is confusing. Do you think Palpatine put effort into this game? They didn't. They're not interested so are just BSing their way through with an awful flavour slot. Like, I don't know how to convince you that you're looking at this game from a completely wrong angle, but the slot's just scum.

We can lynch RCE today but I want to establish that Irrelph never makes it to endgame because they're scum and townies are still defending them.

Lol how is Irrelph not pretending to do something?

I don't expect either will. I'm pretty confident on RCE. (I think) I know who they are, and this is scum-them.

[Obi Someth Kenobi]

I'm expecting 4.

P-ed: oh, is it? I wasn't aware.

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It's 15p. But Boon has been putting 4 scum in all his 15ps lately, so still 4.

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He played like an idiot in Menace as well and he was town there.

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did you just out an alt, bro

No. It's blindingly obvious who it is.

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I'm playing exactly like I play every town game, with the exception of not being able to use meta at all.

Have you not noticed anything, even inadvertently? I'm certainly using meta.

@Ki Adi - I'd be interested to know later. People usually struggle to identify me.

@Tytitus - Try to be less boring if you don't want to get ghosted.

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Time for a reset. All 3 of those flips were useful for me.
With some recon work on the co-mod, I do think it's 3 now. Still leads to a loss today if we don't hit scum.

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For the past two nights, kills have been away from the Palp wagon. It's only me and DEB left who were off. DEB is probably town as well.

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Shiro might be scum.

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I still think Ki Adi is town here based on the Palp vote

Nute less so but still for similar reasons

I wouldn't want to lynch either of them today, regardless

That means I have the same PoE as Shiro

And it's still awful reasoning. No one should be getting townread for voting the weakest member of the scum team.

[Obi Someth Kenobi]

Jesus are we still talking about flavor? I thought that died with Irrelph.

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I could see Tytitus/Shiro. Both have been at each other for some time, but both come into today preferring the "easy" push on me.

[Obi Someth Kenobi]

You can eat a dick if you want.

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@Arist, that was the initial basis of the townlean, the read has developed since then.

I'll get to this properly tomorrow, had a long day.

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Why did you enable the option that hides when you're online?

I'd like Chara and Obi and Shiro to answer this when they get online, please.

First thing I do on any new alt, so that people can't track me, or call me out for visiting and not having posted.

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ok a50, lets drop pretenses. im xtox. worm isnt playing.
you know that you are high priority night kill so you should have at least a weak reason to believe im town.
getting townread by wagon positioning is also one of my strengths as scum. me having scummy looking vote record is what shows im town, tbh. im sure scum-me could have easily let EP0 die without getting in on it.
scum bussed on d1 here. this is why there are still 5 wagon members alive, and its why DEB is town. i feel good about this gamestate read. if you assume scum are on the wagon, then who do you suspect?

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So, Worm hasn't been playing and it was all you??

correct
he ego posted but all posts on this acc are mine

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i also want to tell you all youre very very bad at concealing your identities. someone remind me after the game is over to point out what you all said in these last few pages to give away your true identities. really?

since im out
what gave me away?

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OK, which of Arist/Nute/Tytus would you say you're mist confident in flipping red, and why?

tyt>arist>nute

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sr tyt; tr nute, arist is piggy in the middle
tyt - too many instance of posting nonsense, and tunneling me for what feels like the whole game
nute i tr based on how theyve handled my slot

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POE mostly. I would have never guessed you as a low effort slot at the start of the game.

i mean, im often low effort, but i capitalised/adjusted speech
did you actively try to work out who everyone was?

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Obi did you just randomly drop your Shiro scumread?

Wow even more of an argument for these two as scum together

no
disgusting misrep attempt

[Obi Someth Kenobi]

nute turned on me as well
(sad trombone noise)

idk that the tyti/shiro stuff is tvt it looks kinda scum theatrey
krazys level of aggression in posting is beyond what i expect from him so it could be fake
i think it would be hard to maintain that stream of consciousness off the cuff so its prob not tvs either way

looking at the math, lynching town today isnt disastrous providing the shot hits scum
4 tomorrow for the final day vs 5 tomorrow for the final day
so if everyone suspects me you might as well lynch me, tho i think the d1 wagon and NKs spew me town somewhat
i feel like i should shoot in tyti/shiro
if theyre town then maybe its something like arist/ki adi, idk really

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worm isnt playing.

did you ever get a sense of why worm chose not to play this game?

nah his last post in the pt is jun 15, before the game started, he only mentioned anything about the other 2 games

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tyti - did you get what you wanted from me covered?
im not deliberately avoiding questions, so sorry if that happened

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krazys level of aggression in posting is beyond what i expect from him so it could be fake

based on your sense that I'm aggressive as scum? When have you seen me play scum?

based on that ive never seen you do it as town, and if you're faking aggression that would be scum indicative

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looking at the math, lynching town today isnt disastrous providing the shot hits scum
4 tomorrow for the final day vs 5 tomorrow for the final day
so if everyone suspects me you might as well lynch me, tho i think the d1 wagon and NKs spew me town somewhat

why are you assuming 5:2?

the similarities between this setup and jingles vengeful ghosts game
i mean yeah its a loss if its 4:3 rn

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also like you didnt carry shit
you vigged 1 out of 4
my result got 1
we lynched the other

its a team game, carrying isnt really a thing
get over yourself

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shiro and tyti scared to vote me for fear of being shot LOL