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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:32 pm

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I am ready to begin the LLD toture pack!
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Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:37 pm

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wait no i don't wanna be first
this is LLD's box of fun
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Post Post #10 (isolation #2) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:37 pm

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oh yeah btw
I'm a miller
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Post Post #14 (isolation #3) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:45 pm

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VOTE: katsuki
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Post Post #19 (isolation #4) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:56 pm

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i cud prob vote pine too tbh
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Post Post #22 (isolation #5) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:01 pm

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VOTE: pine

there u go
can I get a prize now
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Post Post #23 (isolation #6) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:01 pm

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In post 21, Skygazer wrote:i mean pine is pretty obvscum at this point
LLD: So you have the chance to fool a bunch of oldies and some really cool people. Are you going to take it?
Pine: Yes
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Post Post #26 (isolation #7) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:06 pm

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my first pick was third party btw
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Post Post #28 (isolation #8) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:09 pm

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In post 25, Gamma Emerald wrote:Anyone who doesn't vote {Ali, Katsuki, kuribo, Pine} is scum
I think that this is really black and white and is kinda just not true?
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Post Post #31 (isolation #9) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:13 pm

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respect
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Post Post #35 (isolation #10) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:24 pm

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in theory: this post restriction is gonna be great and so much fun
in reality: as a mod I wish I could tell the player that they don't have to follow the post restriction anymore
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Post Post #46 (isolation #11) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:20 pm

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ok but u have more fun playing scum
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Post Post #53 (isolation #12) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:41 pm

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In post 51, implosion wrote:For instance, kuribo is probably lying about putting scum as his third choice, but is nonetheless town who ordered his picks as town > scum > third party.
why does this matter??????????????
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Post Post #58 (isolation #13) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:16 pm

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i think gamma is town
I want to see gamma get a key
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Post Post #61 (isolation #14) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:04 pm

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oh
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Post Post #63 (isolation #15) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:30 pm

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In post 62, TemporalLich wrote:VOTE: Plum

Something doesn't feel right here.
go on
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Post Post #65 (isolation #16) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:50 pm

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ok but what gives you that feeling
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Post Post #67 (isolation #17) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:58 pm

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okay, why do you think its weird
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Post Post #69 (isolation #18) » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:02 pm

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ooooooooooh ok
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Post Post #88 (isolation #19) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:40 am

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In post 83, Pine wrote:Dude, you're acting like I showed up with a fake nose and mustache, danced a jig, and sang, "Nothing to see here, folks!"
wait you’re not wearing a fake nose and a mustache, and you didn’t dance a jig and sing “nothing to see here, folks!”
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Post Post #90 (isolation #20) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:45 am

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You realize that its not completely unreasonable to think “hey, the person who literally stars in a series of games where he is a scum IC treestump is likely to pick scum right?”
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Post Post #91 (isolation #21) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:46 am

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But yeah
Kats could be scum too
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Post Post #97 (isolation #22) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:29 am

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In post 92, Pine wrote:
In post 90, Alisae wrote:You realize that its not completely unreasonable to think “hey, the person who literally stars in a series of games where he is a scum IC treestump is likely to pick scum right?”
That's why I picked Town though.

Picking scum was legit suicide in a choose your side game.

Fucking cop me.
a. Miller/gf is a combo that appears decently often
B. You could probably talk your way out of it or just "be town" or push the angle ur pushing
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Post Post #125 (isolation #23) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 118, GreyICE wrote:
In post 10, Alisae wrote:oh yeah btw
I'm a miller
In post 26, Alisae wrote:my first pick was third party btw
Speaking of things that annoy
Another thing I see ahoy
Third party miller
Is serial killer?
Or second pick town? Oh boy...
2nd pick town
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Post Post #132 (isolation #24) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:13 am

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Merci, Madame!

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Post Post #134 (isolation #25) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:19 am

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In post 133, Skygazer wrote:Quality image, Ali.
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Post Post #135 (isolation #26) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:20 am

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Post Post #138 (isolation #27) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:35 am

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In post 137, Pine wrote:Ali didn't give real reasons
In post 90, Alisae wrote:You realize that its not completely unreasonable to think “hey, the person who literally stars in a series of games where he is a scum IC treestump is likely to pick scum right?”
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Post Post #140 (isolation #28) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:40 am

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In post 139, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 134, Alisae wrote:
In post 133, Skygazer wrote:Quality image, Ali.
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One Picture per Post was the rule. You may not vote for 1 extra Time Unit after your restriction is lifted (one TU after the next event. If the event was on 58, you couldn't vote until 57). Further rule breaking will result in... larger punishments~.
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Post Post #141 (isolation #29) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:43 am

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Post Post #144 (isolation #30) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:51 am

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Post Post #146 (isolation #31) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:54 am

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In post 145, Pine wrote:Oh, the "special ability" of the Black Key is that I can't win while holding it, even if Town would otherwise win.
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Post Post #149 (isolation #32) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:04 pm

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In post 147, TemporalLich wrote:can we not deathtunnel pine
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Post Post #154 (isolation #33) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:10 pm

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Post Post #160 (isolation #34) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:29 pm

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In post 156, Skygazer wrote:I'm half-convinced that Pine is a jester at this point.
In post 157, Skygazer wrote:
LLD wrote:There are 6 colours of key: GREEN BLUE PURPLE RED ORANGE YELLOW
In post 158, Skygazer wrote:
In post 137, Pine wrote:I don't know if I count, some dickhole slipped me the
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Post Post #164 (isolation #35) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:33 pm

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In post 159, MariaR wrote:Pine is third party and I want to get it out of the game I doubt the game ends with a jester lynch so just kill it now.
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Post Post #165 (isolation #36) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:34 pm

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In post 159, MariaR wrote:Pine is third party and I want to get it out of the game I doubt the game ends with a jester lynch so just kill it now.
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In post 159, MariaR wrote:Pine is third party and I want to get it out of the game I doubt the game ends with a jester lynch so just kill it now.
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Post Post #169 (isolation #38) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:41 pm

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In post 166, Pine wrote:Skygazer should be able to verify my account of the black key as soon as LLD gets around to PMing her.
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In post 0, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Once I have completed my event with you all players involved in the event must IN THEIR NEXT POST thank me for being such a wonderful and kind hostess~. You will bold, and in RED post "Merci, Madame!".
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In post 170, Alisae wrote:
In post 0, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Once I have completed my event with you all players involved in the event must IN THEIR NEXT POST thank me for being such a wonderful and kind hostess~. You will bold, and in RED post "Merci, Madame!".
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Post Post #175 (isolation #43) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:27 pm

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In post 126, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Your pictures may contain words, but you cannot WRITE onto a picture with an image program.
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Post Post #178 (isolation #45) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:40 pm

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In post 177, hebichan wrote:I'm a monster?
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Post Post #179 (isolation #46) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:51 pm

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In post 177, hebichan wrote:I'm a monster?
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Post Post #186 (isolation #47) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:03 pm

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In post 182, Skygazer wrote:Well, you'll see
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Post Post #191 (isolation #48) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:42 pm

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Merci, Madame!
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Post Post #203 (isolation #50) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:46 pm

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In post 202, Katsuki wrote:WAS ABOUT TO SAY I DONT THINK A MASS KEY CLAIM IS A GOOD IDEA BUT HONESTLY IDK (IDONT THINK ITS A GOOD IDEA)
In post 82, Katsuki wrote:I NEED A PURPLE KEY THANKS EVERYONE
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Post Post #206 (isolation #51) » Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:50 pm

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In post 204, Katsuki wrote:ITS NOT THAT HARD TO FIGURE OUT HOW MY THOUGHTS ON THAT MATTER CHANGED ALISAE
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Post Post #336 (isolation #57) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:04 am

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In post 223, kuribo wrote:Alisae's punishment makes the last five pages really hard to read
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Post Post #337 (isolation #58) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:05 am

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In post 225, kuribo wrote:I don't hate Plum's posts, I think she's tunneling you

I don't like Maria's quote unquote contributions, I feel like accusations of jester are more likely to come from scum, least of all "I don't care if we give him a win, just kill it"

It's like, suppose you were a jester, or some other "I must get myself lynched" mechanic. It's a bastard game, designed by LLD. Who's to say you'd win by getting lynched, or even removed from the game? It's just as likely such a mechanic (if it existed) would do the opposite like make you more powerful or give you a vengeance shot or something. I don't like Maria's immediate jump to the conclusion she made, even if she thought you were trying to get mislynched. And even that last point is a stretch because you answered a question that was asked of you anyway.
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Post Post #338 (isolation #59) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:06 am

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In post 230, Plum wrote:NotKnown15 needs to start posting now~ also Implo thx
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Post Post #339 (isolation #60) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:07 am

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Post Post #340 (isolation #61) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:07 am

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Post Post #341 (isolation #62) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:09 am

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In post 235, TemporalLich wrote:I want to townread Alisae, but the deathtunneling of Pine (evident in ) just makes me want to disagree with townreading Alisae.

Same applies to GreyICE, the post restriction sucks when it comes to scumcasing (evident in ) but I still have to take the case with a crystal of salt

Katsuki is strange, but if I had to give a read, I'd say null!scumlean with being the worst post (though I think it could be a meme)

at least looks good from a distance...

I agree with 's sentiment, but that probably isn't a town-AI post

pedit: lurkers are probably not where the town is
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Post Post #342 (isolation #63) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:10 am

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In post 239, GreyICE wrote:
In post 236, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 233, kuribo wrote:The lurkaderp rule, which is as close to ironclad as any tactic I've ever put forth is that there's always at least one scum in the bottom three or four posters. The corollary is that there's usually another scum in the top three or four.

I've worked on that thought over a number of years, most scum teams have a workhorse.
I agree with this sentiment, this is the template for most games
Are you two scumfucks insane
Perhaps you are missing a brain?
Lurk from demotivation
In a CYS formation
Don't pick scum! Problem solved, no shame
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Post Post #345 (isolation #64) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:13 am

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In post 264, Katsuki wrote:BTW ITS TIME FOR A FULL CLAIM

WE NEED TO LYNCH PINE WITH THE BLACK KEY AND NOT GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO PASS IT OFF TO ANY ONE

THE CONDITIONS FOR THE KEY ARE THAT, HE MUST SURROUND THE TARGET'S POST WITH HIS OWN

I AGREE ENTIRELY WITH HEBI THAT HIS REACTION TO THE BLACK KEY WAS SCUMMY AF AND THUS HE SHOULD BE BURIED WITH IT
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Post Post #352 (isolation #65) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:16 am

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In post 292, Skygazer wrote:
In post 291, implosion wrote:pine's iso is just performance art

i'm just not sure what subgenre thereof
this made me chuckle

i'm rather lost this game;
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Post Post #355 (isolation #66) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:18 am

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In post 310, Katsuki wrote:YOU'RE NOT SCUM BECAUSE OF YOUR INCLINATION TO PICK SCUM
YOU'RE SCUM BECAUSE OF THIS
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Post Post #356 (isolation #67) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:19 am

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In post 335, Pine wrote:I have a gut feeling that {Skygazer, Alisae} contains 1 scum
Grats to Lyncher Katsuki
Plum still scum
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Post Post #358 (isolation #68) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:20 am

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In post 344, Pine wrote:Alisae claimed Miller, right? In {Skygazer, Ali}, it’s probably the latter
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Post Post #359 (isolation #69) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:20 am

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In post 351, implosion wrote:doesn't town!pine at least like, claim here or something. it's a no-flip game. you gotta give us something to work with if you're actually town.
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Post Post #362 (isolation #70) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:28 am

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In post 361, Pine wrote:
In post 359, Alisae wrote:
In post 351, implosion wrote:doesn't town!pine at least like, claim here or something. it's a no-flip game. you gotta give us something to work with if you're actually town.
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Post Post #366 (isolation #71) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:40 am

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In post 363, Pine wrote:Sorry, I don’t mean to make it personal

I get that it’s probably not

But it feels like it is

I’ll stfu

My role name is Cockatrice (because they’re cool). I was a bit JOAT-like, but...not? 3-shot reflexive immunity to events targeting me, 2-shot make someone drop a key
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Post Post #400 (isolation #72) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:07 pm

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Post Post #402 (isolation #73) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:38 pm

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In post 401, Plum wrote:Oh, yeah, I thought I remembered something about that. You too, huh?
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Post Post #408 (isolation #74) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:44 pm

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In post 386, hebichan wrote:I kinda need the green key for my ability but I'm a bit more concerned with it sticking on someone who has more town points than me.

VOTE: implosion
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Post Post #409 (isolation #75) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:48 pm

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Post Post #413 (isolation #76) » Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:47 pm

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In post 374, Not Known 15 wrote:The post looks like a post intended to be posted in a Scum PT.
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Post Post #435 (isolation #77) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:10 am

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Post Post #449 (isolation #78) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:56 am

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In post 446, MariaR wrote:Because obviously my posting is towny, as can be Implo, didn't you get the letter?
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Post Post #536 (isolation #79) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:08 pm

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Merci, Madame!
In post 528, GreyICE wrote:
MERCI MADAME


YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS

FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post Post #548 (isolation #80) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:15 pm

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anyhow im playing league i'll play mafia later
yay i'm free
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Post Post #576 (isolation #81) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:47 pm

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In post 571, TemporalLich wrote:(even if it included deathtunneling pine)
why are you saying this as if its a bad thing?
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Post Post #583 (isolation #82) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:58 pm

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NK15 what's your pick order for alignments?
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Post Post #590 (isolation #83) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:40 pm

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I would like to think that we're competing to try and get a key in this event so we should try and send the town players but I'm not 100% sold on that
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Post Post #591 (isolation #84) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:44 pm

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also yeah
I'm in a neighbourhood with NK15
we both don't know why we're in there
I'm assuming someone put us in there?

Anyhow can I just say that I hate this post?
In post 569, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 563, TemporalLich wrote:I think my read list looks like this for now:

[Town]


implosion (setup spec and pushes ahoy)
Skygazer (quality ISO)
hebichan (townreading here, I can see good intentions here. May the green key secure the town win)
Alisae (the deathtunneling seems odd, but I think I still TR alisae, treat this as a townlean)
GreyICE (your limericks and non-post restricted posts were towny, townlean here)
MariaR (don't have much to work with here... uhhh... town?)
kuribo (uhh... hard null at best I guess)
Plum (scummy ISO)
Not Known 15 (zero effort means zero reason for me to townread you)
Katsuki (not the lyncher, therefore 9 times out of 10 is a scumlord. If this is the 10% universe, maybe this game is weirder than normal)

[Scum]
Further questions:
Why is post 375 a town-tell?
What are, exactly, the good intentions of hebichan and where are the posts these reads are based on?
Why do you townread Alisae in the first place, them being post-restricted to pictures very fast?
Why is "zero reasons to townread" lower than "scummy ISO"?
What exactly is scummy about Plum's ISO?
Why are the limericks and other post of GreyICE towny, in your opinion?
What are the conflicting signs that put kuribo at "hard null at best"?
Like, I really think these questions and the amount of questions here is just made to make it look like NK15 is doing something.
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Post Post #592 (isolation #85) » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:53 pm

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{GreyICE, Hebichan, Plum, Skygazer, Kuribo, Implo}
{MariaR, TL}
{Katsuki, NK15}
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Post Post #604 (isolation #86) » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:47 am

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In post 597, Katsuki wrote:
In post 592, Alisae wrote:{GreyICE, Hebichan, Plum, Skygazer, Kuribo, Implo}
{MariaR, TL}
{Katsuki, NK15}
WANNA EXPLAIN YOUR LINE OF THINKING THAT MAKES YOU THINK IM SCUM WITH PINE AND NK15?
because u like playing scum and I think that its very possible you hardbus Pine at start and also I don’t think anything you posted can’t be faked by you
Also my NK15 read is independent from you and I don’t like that post that was directed towards TL
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Post Post #613 (isolation #87) » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:34 am

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In post 611, kuribo wrote:
In post 604, Alisae wrote:
In post 597, Katsuki wrote:
In post 592, Alisae wrote:{GreyICE, Hebichan, Plum, Skygazer, Kuribo, Implo}
{MariaR, TL}
{Katsuki, NK15}
WANNA EXPLAIN YOUR LINE OF THINKING THAT MAKES YOU THINK IM SCUM WITH PINE AND NK15?
because u like playing scum and I think that its very possible you hardbus Pine at start and also I don’t think anything you posted can’t be faked by you
Also my NK15 read is independent from you and I don’t like that post that was directed towards TL

The point of hardbussing is so when they flip scum, you can distance yourself

Why the Fuck would anyone hardbus in a no-reveal game? It serves no purpose because the rest of us have no way of knowing what Pine was. They could just as easily be scum powerfucking a townie.
Because its not very possible to defend Pine with how he was playing so if you’re scum in that situation you’re better off leading the charge I think?
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Post Post #616 (isolation #88) » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:56 am

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In post 614, kuribo wrote:
In post 613, Alisae wrote:
In post 611, kuribo wrote:
In post 604, Alisae wrote:
In post 597, Katsuki wrote:
In post 592, Alisae wrote:{GreyICE, Hebichan, Plum, Skygazer, Kuribo, Implo}
{MariaR, TL}
{Katsuki, NK15}
WANNA EXPLAIN YOUR LINE OF THINKING THAT MAKES YOU THINK IM SCUM WITH PINE AND NK15?
because u like playing scum and I think that its very possible you hardbus Pine at start and also I don’t think anything you posted can’t be faked by you
Also my NK15 read is independent from you and I don’t like that post that was directed towards TL

The point of hardbussing is so when they flip scum, you can distance yourself

Why the Fuck would anyone hardbus in a no-reveal game? It serves no purpose because the rest of us have no way of knowing what Pine was. They could just as easily be scum powerfucking a townie.
Because its not very possible to defend Pine with how he was playing so if you’re scum in that situation you’re better off leading the charge I think?
Not only is it possible, it would have been easy as fuck.

You're seriously overstating how desperate scum would have been to send up one of their own that early in a no reveal.
1. How would it have scum defended pine if pine was scum
2. Why did no one defend pine?
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Post Post #617 (isolation #89) » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:00 am

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In post 615, kuribo wrote:
In post 613, Alisae wrote:
In post 611, kuribo wrote:
In post 604, Alisae wrote:
In post 597, Katsuki wrote:
In post 592, Alisae wrote:{GreyICE, Hebichan, Plum, Skygazer, Kuribo, Implo}
{MariaR, TL}
{Katsuki, NK15}
WANNA EXPLAIN YOUR LINE OF THINKING THAT MAKES YOU THINK IM SCUM WITH PINE AND NK15?
because u like playing scum and I think that its very possible you hardbus Pine at start and also I don’t think anything you posted can’t be faked by you
Also my NK15 read is independent from you and I don’t like that post that was directed towards TL

The point of hardbussing is so when they flip scum, you can distance yourself

Why the Fuck would anyone hardbus in a no-reveal game? It serves no purpose because the rest of us have no way of knowing what Pine was. They could just as easily be scum powerfucking a townie.
Because its not very possible to defend Pine with how he was playing so if you’re scum in that situation you’re better off leading the charge I think?

I mean you don't even sound convinced yourself, which shows we both know I'm right about not needing to hard bus anyone in a no reveal
the last time I was scum in no flip nightless I hardbussed because I genuinely did not see a way to defend by buddy and I felt cornered.
So I’m probably just incompetent and I have no idea how to play no flip nightless as scum
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Post Post #620 (isolation #90) » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:06 am

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What’s your read on Kats?
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Post Post #623 (isolation #91) » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:11 am

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Why?
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Post Post #626 (isolation #92) » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:23 am

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Oh ok i won’t worry about it then ig
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Post Post #632 (isolation #93) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:13 am

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In post 630, GreyICE wrote:That being said, would Pine's ego let him be powerbussed? Hmmm. I dunno.
yeah he would
at the end of the day he's a teamplayer, I think he would totally be okay with being bussed here
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Post Post #633 (isolation #94) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:17 am

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and even then, I don't think there is a "let him" option
I think he would be bussed and he would just have to deal with it and act on the fly
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Post Post #646 (isolation #95) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:43 am

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Can you recruit me into your super special awesome cult?
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Post Post #659 (isolation #96) » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:49 pm

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VOTE: ali
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Post Post #698 (isolation #97) » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:58 am

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In post 675, TemporalLich wrote:VOTE: Not Known 15

Scumread to thunderdome
what the fuck makes you think its a thunderdome?
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Post Post #700 (isolation #98) » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:59 am

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OMG IMPLO WERE YOU SERIOUS IN POST 51???????????
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Post Post #751 (isolation #99) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:24 am

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In post 750, TemporalLich wrote:okay I've not played with Pine before so I thought he was being deathtunneled.

If he's indeed a scum picker... then yeah that's a good reason to banish him. Pine already was being scummy but the deathtunnel was off-putting.
what does deathtunneling or powerlynching even mean to you
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Post Post #754 (isolation #100) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:46 am

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So it didn’t occur to you to think “hey, maybe there is a REASON that Pine was being voted, I should try to figure out what that was, or ask someone who might know?” Like, at all?
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Post Post #781 (isolation #101) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:49 pm

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i townread mariar
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Post Post #787 (isolation #102) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:56 pm

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mebbe kuribo is scum
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Post Post #791 (isolation #103) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:59 pm

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my read is only based on how you're handling mariar and I really don't like it
I don't really think it comes across as genuine.

Also
In post 783, kuribo wrote:If you think for two Fucking seconds that I put scum first or second in a CYS after a completely DISASTROUS stretch of every scum game in the last two years, you need to replace the captain of your fuckin brain ship
you realize Pine was trying to say the samething and we lynched him right?
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Post Post #793 (isolation #104) » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:04 pm

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In post 790, MariaR wrote:Now that we have that out of the way. Why are people townreading Hebi? I know people gave her the key but I still don't see much that makes me call her town. It's one of the other 3 slots I don't have a read on.
where exactly are you at atm?
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Post Post #826 (isolation #105) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:01 pm

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Merci Madame!
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Post Post #827 (isolation #106) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:04 pm

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ok captain GreyICE and captain Implo
how do we play this game
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Post Post #828 (isolation #107) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:05 pm

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fyi im pretty happy with either of u 2 getting the key so I couldn't really care about it
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Post Post #830 (isolation #108) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:14 pm

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TL, how do you think we should play this game?
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Post Post #831 (isolation #109) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:14 pm

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TL if you could organize who votes what, how would you do it and why.
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Post Post #836 (isolation #110) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:18 pm

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who would you try to banish?
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Post Post #840 (isolation #111) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:24 pm

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ok well here's my plan
2 of {Me, Implo, GreyICE} agree to vote safety while the other votes for the key.
I think thats how we play this out because if TL votes safety, whoever votes key gets the key and banishes TL
and if TL votes key, we just give the key to whoever voted key and we banish TL
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Post Post #847 (isolation #112) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:41 pm

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In post 846, hebichan wrote:Pretty sure implosion townreads TL so you might habe a hard time time with your plan Alisae.
I didn't come up with this plan because I SR TL but rather he's the person I would banish out of us 4 and I don't really care about who gets the key as long as TL doesn't get it. Because one of us has to get banished and its a matter of deciding who gets banished
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Post Post #853 (isolation #113) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:52 pm

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In post 849, hebichan wrote:
In post 847, Alisae wrote:
In post 846, hebichan wrote:Pretty sure implosion townreads TL so you might habe a hard time time with your plan Alisae.
I didn't come up with this plan because I SR TL but rather he's the person I would banish out of us 4 and I don't really care about who gets the key as long as TL doesn't get it. Because one of us has to get banished and its a matter of deciding who gets banished
So why did you default to TL if you didn't scumread him? I agree with the logic of course, just is your read on Implosion and GI that strong?
Pretty much also i think banishing TL is the best play since he's in the lynchpool. And given that we have to banish someone it should be him and not implo or greyice
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Post Post #857 (isolation #114) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:59 pm

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In post 856, implosion wrote:
Merci, Madame!


I'm fine with banishing TL from the event.

(also i can't tell if that key is orange or yellow?)
who do you think the key should go to
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Post Post #861 (isolation #115) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:08 pm

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In post 859, implosion wrote:(1) if TL goes safety we have to trust whoever takes the key to banish him
I think that trust is there.
In post 859, implosion wrote:(2) if TL goes for the key we have to trust the other two to settle it against him
I doubt this will be an issue.
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Post Post #872 (isolation #116) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:41 pm

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tbh, I don't think thats super necessary to test?
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Post Post #873 (isolation #117) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:44 pm

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if ur the person I'm giving a key too, I'm giving it to you because I TR you not because I want to test an ability.
Either way I'm defaulting my vote to safety, Implo can be the one to decide if u get the key or not.
I just don't think TL should have it
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Post Post #911 (isolation #118) » Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:24 am

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In post 878, TemporalLich wrote:I don't have much incentive to go for key seeing Alisae's plan is to banish me regardless of what happens...

Come to think of it Alisae might be the scum here.
yeah sorry ur the person I banish out of the 4 of us I don't like it as well but I think its better for
A. Gamestate
B. I just TR Implo and GreyICE more then u
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Post Post #912 (isolation #119) » Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:25 am

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In post 885, Katsuki wrote:Either way we should be safe so long as alisae and TL actually safety this. Simply a matter of whether GI gets key or not.
I haven't sent in a vote so as long as I don't do that it defaults to safety :P
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Post Post #913 (isolation #120) » Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:27 am

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i wonder if LLD read too much umineko
maybe she watched the anime
the thought of that gives me the creeps
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Post Post #918 (isolation #121) » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:02 pm

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i sure hope greyice picked safety
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Post Post #920 (isolation #122) » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:46 pm

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safety
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Post Post #921 (isolation #123) » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:46 pm

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i didn't send in a vote so if I don't send it a vote it defaults to safety
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Post Post #923 (isolation #124) » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:48 pm

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no my worry is that GreyICE picked key
then we would be forced to banish one of Implo and GreyICE and I'm not to happy about that since I wanted to set this up so that TL always gets banished.
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Post Post #926 (isolation #125) » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:57 pm

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Hebi
I'm worrying too much help :(
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Post Post #936 (isolation #126) » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:23 pm

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me2
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Post Post #938 (isolation #127) » Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:05 pm

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cool nothing to worry about at all
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Post Post #940 (isolation #128) » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:02 am

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you not having a key is better then banishing you because I sure as hell ain't gonna banish implo
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Post Post #1014 (isolation #129) » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:53 pm

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I appreciate ur cupcake skills
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Post Post #1024 (isolation #130) » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:25 pm

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and now we should have a lynch!
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #131) » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:33 pm

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hi i have no idea whats going on
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Post Post #1047 (isolation #132) » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:42 pm

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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #133) » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:47 pm

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no
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #134) » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:00 pm

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125,000? amateur
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #135) » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:08 pm

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do it u won't
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Post Post #1058 (isolation #136) » Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:00 pm

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show us what caring looks like!
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Post Post #1066 (isolation #137) » Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:57 am

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I am so looking forward to banishing NK16
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Post Post #1070 (isolation #138) » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:23 am

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I’m still wondering why I have a neighbourhood with him
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Post Post #1071 (isolation #139) » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:24 am

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We haven’t used it at all since I outed it btw
He hasn’t bothered to post in their and neither have I
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Post Post #1073 (isolation #140) » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:26 am

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Btw guys I don’t think kuribo is town

Pedit: I don’t have anything to read in there :P
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #141) » Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:30 am

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VOTE: NK15
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #142) » Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:56 pm

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mariar what does caring look like!
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Post Post #1100 (isolation #143) » Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:56 pm

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im rly excited to see what it looks like :good:
im also rly high but thats not the point
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #144) » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:31 pm

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In post 1133, GreyICE wrote:Alisae, now that we have two claimed key cops, details on your miller ability please. Exactly how does it work, as close to exact phrasing as you can get.

Preferably ASAP since the mod is at a meet, and the faster you answer the less likely I think it is to be checking things with her.
I appear as scum to all investigation checks
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Post Post #1136 (isolation #145) » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:34 pm

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in fact I don't mind claiming the ability name for it which is Yokai Heritage
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Post Post #1145 (isolation #146) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:43 am

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In post 1144, GreyICE wrote:
In post 1142, Katsuki wrote:
In post 1077, Plum wrote: Like, these all seem like successes. I should be feeling only more and more pleased with the gamestate! But instead I'm getting paranoid that we're on the completely wrong track.
No flip games are hard. It's super easy to get apathetic with the lack of information from flips.
Yeah, I apologize. I told Lexi I hate no-flip games, and well, here we are.
No flip games suck
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Post Post #1147 (isolation #147) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:06 am

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I feel like that should be a lynchable offense
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Post Post #1165 (isolation #148) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:04 pm

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In post 1153, GreyICE wrote:Y'know I'm practically positive your intended behavior should be to play super townie and just agree with lynches on everyone that isn't one of your horsemen, then "scumslip" on day 5 so none of them get lynched either, but this is WAY more helpful to the town than that. So I'm going to commend you.

Anyway, NK15 knows the mechanics of the scumkill and that GE was a scumkill, lets just lynch him.
you do realize that Kuribo knows how his role works and what he told us may not exactly match up with what he actually does right?
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Post Post #1167 (isolation #149) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:06 pm

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Also GreyICE the mechanics of the scumkill are in LLD’s ruleset.
This isn’t to stop you from lynching NK64 tho, I strongly believe that town are less familiar with mechanics then scum are and that scum are more likely to understand how mechanics work
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Post Post #1168 (isolation #150) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:08 pm

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Actually I have a crazy idea that just popped into my head
What if the key that scum actually need is the Black Key and Kuribo and his “horsemen” are actually scum
This probably isn’t reality but hey its an idea and I’ma just throw it out there since it came to my mind.
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Post Post #1170 (isolation #151) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:13 pm

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In post 1169, kuribo wrote:Because the black key causes the holder to lose and is passed around differently from other keys


Also I chose my Horsemen.
your horsemen could have some immunity they don’t know about and you could have picked the scumteam?
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Post Post #1171 (isolation #152) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:14 pm

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And even if they did know, why would they tell us?
They’re scum after all

Tho this kinda makes the CYS side of the game pointless?
/shrug
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Post Post #1174 (isolation #153) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:37 pm

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In post 1172, kuribo wrote:
In post 1170, Alisae wrote:
In post 1169, kuribo wrote:Because the black key causes the holder to lose and is passed around differently from other keys


Also I chose my Horsemen.
your horsemen could have some immunity they don’t know about and you could have picked the scumteam?

How do you choose immunity from a win condition


Also why would I openly name my scum partners

Also that would mean there are five of us on the scum team
oh ok my theory is stupid yes i understand now ok ty


In post 1173, GreyICE wrote:
In post 1164, implosion wrote:
In post 1162, GreyICE wrote:
In post 51, implosion wrote:imo we should eschew normal scumhunting completely, and instead *exclusively* discuss what order we think people put things in and the implications thereof.

For instance, kuribo is probably lying about putting scum as his third choice, but is nonetheless town who ordered his picks as town > scum > third party.
Hey Implosion, what choices do you think different people put in?
Idk strongly. There isn't actually anyone in this player list that I know the preferences of well. There are some people that I decently think put town over scum but that's because I think that they're town and if someone put scum over town and was forced into town they'd probably have claimed it because of the implications.

Why?
Well you said you don't think lynching is that important, and you said you don't think voting is that important, and you said the most important thing is figuring out everyone's preference list, but you don't seem to have any thoughts on that. And you have a few thoughts, but they seem to be gut/irrelevant. And you're going VLA for a week.

So when I think "how is Implosion thinking about the game" I get a bunch of setup spec and nothing I could use to actually sort the game out as town. And that? That makes me want to lynch Implosion.
Man, if only we had flips, that way we could read the gamestate better. If we had flips I would be on board with this maybe?
I’ll look into it more ig from an ISO dive eventually
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Post Post #1176 (isolation #154) » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:48 pm

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Guys
Here is the secret to banishing scum today
banish Katsuki
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Post Post #1204 (isolation #155) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:31 pm

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#scumarentpeople
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Post Post #1206 (isolation #156) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:45 pm

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kuribo's wine is annoying me
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Post Post #1212 (isolation #157) » Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:02 pm

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o yeah skygazer can u lock my very first gtkas thread someone accidentally posted in that instead of my most recent one lul
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #158) » Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:26 pm

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In post 1229, Katsuki wrote:
In post 1227, kuribo wrote:
In post 1225, Katsuki wrote:
In post 1224, Not Known 15 wrote:There isn't much info and town seems to have already lost majority... or will be shortly...
What makes you say that?
He's counting how many people are in his scum PT
Oh excuse me. Could you provide us the number of mafia in this game so we know what we're working with?
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Post Post #1243 (isolation #159) » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:56 pm

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VOTE: kuribo
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Post Post #1248 (isolation #160) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:32 am

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In post 792, kuribo wrote:Then lynch me


It actually increases my odds of winning
In post 1245, kuribo wrote:I haven't been lynched in over three years


It'll take more than asking politely
pick one
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Post Post #1251 (isolation #161) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:09 am

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wait a min
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Post Post #1252 (isolation #162) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:10 am

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I don't need to talk to you oh my god thats right
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Post Post #1316 (isolation #163) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:04 pm

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In post 1258, kuribo wrote:I once won a game because town gifted me a vig shot and I used it to kill my own scumbuddy Albert B. Rampage
I was in that game
That was a fun game
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Post Post #1318 (isolation #164) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:06 pm

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In post 1263, implosion wrote:Alisae do you have any material thoughts on the game right now or are you also part of the Chorus or Bored Voices
I really don’t have anything unique to add to the thread and quite frankly, I am very lost when it comes to who is scum.
I have my own reads but I don’t trust them very much
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Post Post #1323 (isolation #165) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:09 pm

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In post 1280, GreyICE wrote:MariaR! Alisae! We're not fucking about with 3rd parties today. It is an absolute, utter waste of time when we know they exist, they claimed of their own volition, and there's no particular reason to think they're antitown (and plenty of reasons to think they're not, as an 8v5 is just nonsensical and not mafia). Lets do something real today. We can send the third parties to the games or whatever and lynch them if they have keys on them. It's way better.
I don’t want to lynch Implosion. Do you have an alternative I might be interested in?
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Post Post #1331 (isolation #166) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:14 pm

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In post 1289, Skygazer wrote:here's the deal: i'm town w some investigative shots, i played dumb at first because i figured the scum in this lobby wouldn't kill a player w a 2018 join date that was playing dumb; when you called me out for that i claimed a pretty benign third party to buy myself some more time. i have a clear on mariar that i hinted at, and i'm awaiting results on implosion (i sent in the action yesterday and i'm assuming it's too late to cancel). the latter part is why i don't want to see implo quicklynched just yet

why am i outting this now? i've used up my two shots, maria and implo are both likely to be wagoned right now, i've gained a 1-shot bp from ??? so i'm not in immediate danger of being shot and i need to not pretend to be third party anymore if i want to get the blue key and unlock some more powers
wow you got a 1-shot BP that sure is convenient.
So here is my question:
Why the fuck would ANYONE give you a 1-shot BP
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Post Post #1336 (isolation #167) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:20 pm

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In post 1333, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1331, Alisae wrote:Why the fuck would ANYONE give you a 1-shot BP
no clue; i have a couple of guesses that i don't want to out
what doesn’t make sense is that you stated that when you die you get your chance to win the game
So then why would someone then make it harder for you to die?
I don’t get it?
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Post Post #1339 (isolation #168) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:32 pm

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When did you get the 1-shot BP?
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Post Post #1353 (isolation #169) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:18 pm

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In post 1352, Plum wrote:Alisae, when you got a Neighborhood with NK15, what was the notification like? Promise this is potentially relevant.
Generic you've been invited to a neighbourhood message
the only thing thats interesting about the hood is what its called, and its called "The Strait Talk"
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Post Post #1354 (isolation #170) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:19 pm

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GreyICE I saw your post gimmie a bit please I want to give you a somewhat decent answer and be able to point out what I like about implosion
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Post Post #1356 (isolation #171) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:58 pm

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In post 707, implosion wrote:I guess I see the point that TL hasn't taken risky stances much but I think that's not surprising from town in this game. It took me a while to form like any material opinions in this game. I like , particularly calling one of Pine's posts a possible townslip; not a likely scum->scum interaction, and not something that i think scum points out if they see town do it (even if the townslip itself is bunk). isn't a bad post either imo. feels like a genuine thought that scum wouldn't think as much about, and I don't really buy that he's scum avoiding giving reads since he has now given a full reads list, justified them, and given decent answers to questions about why he has those reads. I think the way he's been scumreading katsuki is reasonable, and that katsuki is a really easy person to scumread in general if you aren't familiar with him.

Again, it's not a strong read. There are things that give me pause. 281 could potentially be scum who are more aware of the fact that scum only need one key to win because they're thinking about their own win condition, and his tone feels kinda bad in a lot of places. It's not a read I'm wed to.
I think before the mini game, I looked at this (and his other more wally posts) and thought "wow, it seems like implosion is really trying and giving his all" and thats what I was going into his ISO thinking "Where can I find Implosion giving his all and trying" and this is the only thing I could come up with that doesn't seem faked? Like, as scum he defends TL because why? And this post kinda summarizes how I felt about TL, he wasn't really playing that well and in fact was bad and was making really questionable posts, but I didn't think they were scummy persay, just, really bad at mafia.
And TL calling me scum for wanting to banish him no matter what seemed more likely to come from town then scum mostly because the thought was irrational? We had to decide who to banish out of 4 people and the obvious choice was him.

And there's also this NK41 stance here that also just doesn't make sense
In post 1202, implosion wrote:Plum, why did you quote post 1187? Do you agree with it? What more do you want me to do to sort maria, other than literally just voting for her (which I don't think is even meaningful)? And do you actually think katsuki is town beyond agreeing with townreads? Because it's not like kats has thrown out a bunch of reads that go against the grain, as far as i can tell.

Like I've said several times, I barely even feel motivated to vote anyone at all right now. Like I don't see why the town win condition even cares if the game goes to deadline (or, to time unit 36) without a hammer vote. I'm vaguely guessing the game was designed around it but that's all blank speculation, unless scum have the ability to like, steal the real key from someone at the last second... which i doubt.

NK is awkward because I actually don't agree with like a single thing he's said in the last ten pages but i'm still sure enough he's town. Hebi is still town, Plum is still town, alisae is still town, greyice is still probably town (or at least, enough people that i trust trust him). So in principal i'm fine banishing anyone that isn't one of those six. Sure, scum are going to banish one of them probably, but -shrug-. I'm fine banishing kuribo or sky if people want to get rid of the known not-towns. I'm fine banishing maria or katsuki. I just don't really care about banishment that much.
My impression is that people are annoyed of what NK69 is saying and think he could be scum and want to kill him. Thats certainly my take on it. So why bother defending that if Implosion was scum, wynaut just let town continue to shoot themselves in the foot and help kill him.

But like, thats it?
Looking through this ISO, I'm not finding what I thought was there. Its mostly just surface stuff. I'm starting to especially hate this stuff he's writing towards maria considering I think Maria is town
In post 1132, implosion wrote:
Maria wrote:Why are you trying to state exaggerations for no reason?
Because I'm frustrated with your play.
Maria wrote:No one has stated reasoning why I’m scum.
I've given a couple of salient points, namely your activity pattern feeling identical to mlp (weak, yes, but there) and . To add to them: it feels like you've made zero effort to further the town win condition, which is to build a coalition. You say you've adopted this new style, but it doesn't seem like a style especially well suited to this game, and playing the game of "I know I'm not going to get a key but I can bring scum reads down with me" doesn't seem like a way town *ought* to approach this setup, given we need six of us. Banishing scum reads doesn't even necessarily help us at all if those players weren't going to get keys in the first place. Like,
What am I suppose to be engaging with exactly? No one has stated reasoning why I’m scum.
This is bunk. You can try to publicly sort people. You can make an effort to have dialogue with your town reads. You can say who you want your coalition to be, and argue for those other people being in it, particularly people that you're town reading that others are scum reading (like presumably sky gazer before she claimed 3p).
Maria wrote:
You do know I made this exact statement in how I hate scum 2 games ago correct?
Do you think I would pick scum for an easy win yet hate playing the game? Is that what you think I’d do? That’s a question by the way I’m really curious.
the bolded is not something I know and I'm not sure why you think I do? Was it a statement in mlp?

I don't think you would pick it for an easy win, I think you either went third party > scum > town because you wanted third party but didn't feel like playing town in the game, or you felt more like playing scum than town, etc. If you have talked publicly and recently about finding scum not fun then that'd be useful information. Or maybe you were given third party and got one that's motivated to claim town instead of outing itself as kuribo and sky have. Maybe you specifically wanted to be scum in this player list because you thought it would be a more interesting challenge. Maybe you have other reasons for picking scum that I don't have the requisite knowledge to figure out. Or maybe even everyone put town above scum and you drew the short straw! I don't know. But it does not suffice on its own as an argument for you being town, even if it is evidence.
I’ll let my actions speak for me
Great. I'll be waiting for more of them than just a kuribo vote.
Like I dislike this more then I like it. This feels like a push thats coming from scum with the "you aren't trying to build a coalition"
well ofc she isn't, thats not how she's plays mafia.
She just wants to lynch scum and isn't really thinking about the whole "building coalition" part
and as scum, I think she would DEFINITELY being thinking about the whole "building coalition" part
In post 1175, implosion wrote:????

I've been trying to find the right coalition, that's why I'm trying to make Maria sortable, and why I've been open with my reads (though I guess I haven't given a full list in a week or w/e) but ????

The game's been fucking slow. Sue me for not being mega-ultra-hyper engaged. And I don't know why you're so excited to harp on me for going v/la... I'm still more active than half the player list. The people who need to townread me mostly already do (and i already have a key!) so I don't really care that much about actively making myself more sortable. If you wanna hold onto this germ of looking for reasons to scumread me then you do you.

"I get a bunch of setup spec and nothing i could use to actually sort the game" is fucking ridiculous. I've given setup spec here and there but i've been open about my reads. Half the time it's just boring to do anything and the thread is dominated by the likes of katsuki spouting random bullshit, kuribo doing nothing interesting, or discussion about which people we should send to a game we know nothing about.

Right now my strong town list is hebi, nk, plum. I want the four of us to get keys, with my next preferences probably being alisae and you (or gamma if he can be rezzed, of course). But scum get a banish after we do so most likely someone from that list will bite a bullet, and... idk dude, it's hard to predict what's going to happen this game with the obvious issue of "there's a fuckton of events that are going to fuck with shit in unpredictable ways".

I think I've been clear on why nk was town, and then nothing changed about those reasons and suddenly you're gung-ho about banishing him. He's been spouting random shit all game, it's just not scummy.
and here with this tone, I kind of think its faked. I hate this repitition of "Maria isn't trying to build a coalition" because I feel like thats all this push is.
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Post Post #1357 (isolation #172) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:03 pm

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In post 1160, implosion wrote:I don't want to join the nk wagon bc I've been pretty explicit about having no desire to banish him?

Like I don't think I've been unclear about that at any point.

I don't really have any motivation to use my vote tbh for the same reason hebichan said, banishment isn't clearly part of how we win.
there's also this
banishment may not be how we win, but its how scum gets to banish someone, and that could help and break apathy I feel like?

either way I feel like I'm playing badly because I'm not really doing much other then coasting and I think skygazer scumreading me might actually be town!indicative because my play sucks
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Post Post #1358 (isolation #173) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:05 pm

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but ye I could vote implosion ig
I see no harm in waiting for skygazer so I'm in no rush
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Post Post #1359 (isolation #174) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:10 pm

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Do you have a take on Katsuki?
I have no idea what to do with that slot
I have no idea how to read him
And I would like someone who maybe has an idea of how to read him to tell me how I should play around him because I don't think he's doing anything since we lynched pine and I think he definitely takes scum and I feel like it would be better to lynch him because I have no idea how to play around it
but I'm also bad at mafia and don't really put that much weight into my reads (not that thats important anyways) due to the fact that they can be wrong
So yeah

oh yeah I should probably do this until I'm ready to vote implosion
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1360 (isolation #175) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:16 pm

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In post 1308, GreyICE wrote:Like... you do realize your role claim isn’t even compatible with Alisae’s wording of her miller, right? You find out pick order, apparently, but she appears as scum to all investigations. So what, you’d get back “scum” instead of an actual order? And what’s the rolecop? Also “scum”?
it not being compatable could also be by intention of the mod to make one of the roles look bad, either me or skygazer.
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Post Post #1361 (isolation #176) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:17 pm

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I think judging by my own role tho, I think the person who is meant to look bad is 100% me
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Post Post #1365 (isolation #177) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:07 pm

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In post 1362, kuribo wrote:
In post 1359, Alisae wrote:Do you have a take on Katsuki?
I have no idea what to do with that slot
I have no idea how to read him
And I would like someone who maybe has an idea of how to read him to tell me how I should play around him because I don't think he's doing anything since we lynched pine and I think he definitely takes scum and I feel like it would be better to lynch him because I have no idea how to play around it
I've played more games with Katsuki than with anyone else except maybe DGB.

We've been against each other, and with each other, as every possible combination of alignment.

We've stood beside one another, in the years before MafiaScum, and battled common enemies in faraway galaxies.

I know Katsuki's game like the back of my hand, and since I'm third party, you can believe me when I say this because I don't need to mislynch him:

This is by faaaaaaaaaaaar Katsuki's town game.
ok ty for ur wise words i will trust u
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Post Post #1391 (isolation #178) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:08 pm

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In post 1373, GreyICE wrote:
In post 1361, Alisae wrote:I think judging by my own role tho, I think the person who is meant to look bad is 100% me
Would you believe that your claim of being a Miller before more than two other people posted looks better than the claimed third party/town bulletproof cop/pick order cop/rolecop/JOAT claim?
I honestly don't mind it atm
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Post Post #1392 (isolation #179) » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:23 pm

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In post 1380, Skygazer wrote:
In post 1379, kuribo wrote:
In post 1375, Skygazer wrote:if i was scum that needed to get into the well of fears to win i would never claim third party here
you can't really make that argument when you've changed your claim though
look at the situation im in right now tho

why would i ever do this to myself as scum? in what world would any potential teammates out of everyone in this game be like "ok yeah go ahead, you can do that, sounds like a solid scum play." there's absolutely no sane reason i'd do that unless i simply wanted to survive and avoid the night kill.
like
if I had what skygazer had, this mentality is something I would be extremely worried about all of the time.
I'm like this when I'm doc because ik no one else is gonna save me.
So I really don't have a problem with it.
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Post Post #1400 (isolation #180) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:50 am

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Katsuki: writes
also Katsuki immediately after: says he has a cop guilty

lmao okay sure
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Post Post #1402 (isolation #181) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:00 am

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tbh
i believe katsuki because it would be a really dick move to fake a guilty in flipless
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Post Post #1403 (isolation #182) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:01 am

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and also because kuribo and greyice say they're town
and um
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i'm trusting them
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Post Post #1406 (isolation #183) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:11 am

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Hi
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Post Post #1408 (isolation #184) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:39 am

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In post 1407, kuribo wrote:
In post 1405, MariaR wrote:Considering Katsuki has faked a guilty before I don't know if I fully believe the fact he has a guilty.
If anything I wanna talk to Ali more about Implo than anything else.


How do you know if it was fake in flipless?
are we reading the same post?
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Post Post #1409 (isolation #185) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:40 am

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oh wait
im not reading the same post as you

carry on i got no sleep and cannot fall asleep weeeeeeeeee
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Post Post #1411 (isolation #186) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:46 am

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i don't think she knows for sure
she just doubts it
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Post Post #1419 (isolation #187) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:59 am

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In post 1417, kuribo wrote:
In post 1415, implosion wrote:Literally driving back from beach.

i'm jealous i've only been to the beach once this week
i haven't been to a beach in a very long time
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Post Post #1427 (isolation #188) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:24 pm

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post Post #1428 (isolation #189) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:25 pm

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get fucked
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Post Post #1431 (isolation #190) » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:38 pm

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merci madame
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Post Post #1442 (isolation #191) » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:14 pm

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ok who needed the red key now
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #192) » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:16 pm

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oh yeah it was kuribo
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Post Post #1445 (isolation #193) » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:16 pm

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In post 1443, MariaR wrote:Do we need to keep lynching or are we almost ready here.
no we have to wait to lynch someone
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Post Post #1447 (isolation #194) » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:17 pm

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not all keys are given out so we can't enter the well yet
we have to give someone a red key right now
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Post Post #1450 (isolation #195) » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:31 pm

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uuuuh
ask GreyICE
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Post Post #1451 (isolation #196) » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:34 pm

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also is it just me or is implo handing the key to plum just weird
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #197) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:33 am

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In post 1454, Not Known 15 wrote:VOTE: Not Known 15
It's time for me to get a key.
lets be clear here
We’re not giving this guy a key right
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Post Post #1457 (isolation #198) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:14 am

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I wonder what happens if GreyICE were to swap keys with u
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Post Post #1458 (isolation #199) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:15 am

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VOTE: Alisae
Also give this key to me
We should try to give Kats the key he wants and I am gonna trust GreyICE with his read there.
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