NewbScum Greeting Tell

[Nancy Drew 39]

I think you’re all overlooking the obvious. Greeting the game isn’t a scumtell but a try hard, over-explanatory, detailed post, is more likely to be and both the RC and NMSA examples qualify for this.

Contrast:

“Hey guys, really looking fwd to this game”, to a similar post with excess filler. Also, RC’s example is more likely to come from scum because scum (especially newbie scum) tends to overcompensate, ergo: I will scumhunt with “my fresh eyes”. As for NMSA, it’s the excessive detail that gives it away.

In both cases, there is some form of overcompensation, as if a need to go out of one’s way to let the thread know just how townie, you supposedly are. In contrast, a simple, “excited to play this game”, demonstrates none of that.

Referencing “catching up”, is completely NAI however, mentioning “forgetting about the game” or “not being aware it started” is definitely more suspect. Why? Because once again, it demonstrates a possible need to overcompensate. As in “I’m sorry I haven’t posted but that’s cuz I forgot, not because I have a red role pm”. However, I’ve also seen town do this as well, so not as applicable as the first but I did play a game, where a scum in fact, made this very kind of post.

[Nancy Drew 39]

It's not the greeting it's the tone that catches newb scum

A lot of people have been learning the wrong lesson from this tell and I'm afraid it's making them learn slower and play worse

In my experience, either some sort of generally tryhard type of opening or an overcompensating one, is more likely to come from scum than town, especially if it’s excessively long or detailed.

An extremely serious, “I caught scum” kind of post, within the first few posts of the game, is particularly noteworthy. I’ve caught scum twice doing that way too early on, when the evidence for the read is either not at clear or doesn’t involve anything specific to the game they’re in.

The placing of the post is also relevant. Is it during or after RVS? Are they a replace in? Those are both mitigating factors.

A short simple greeting the game sort of post, is both standard for me and also NAI.

[Nancy Drew 39]

surely there's no way I did this

Vote: Query

I agree, he's already suspicious.

vi = 6
6th person on list = avinashv

Accidental OMGUS Vote:

avinashv

Also, two questions while I'm voting for you.
* Where did your username come from?
* You don't mind if I shorten that to "avi" in the future, right?

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Also, at least I'm not Emacs.

the vote in that second quote seems out of character for me

now

but I'd believe it coming from 2008 me (also avinashv was a scumpartner, which is a different hypothetical tell altogether)
the rest is pretty standard 2008 me

This kind of backs up my point of the scumpost being overly detailed, as contrasted with your simple townie opening. The scumpost also involves things irrelevant to your reason for voting. It’s almost like you’re going out of your way to be respectful of the player you’re voting, which could reveal possible guilt. Also, “accidental OMGUS vote”, sounds really awkward.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Hi I'm Chennis

You can call me obvtown, that works for me.

This is hardly a scumtell opening post.

I find, “hi, I’m town” type posts, to be frustratingly NAI.

[Nancy Drew 39]

You'd be foolish to scumread a player based on this alone, as a quarter of all Newbie town players do it, too. But it's one tool in finding scum fakeness in RVS. Or at least it was until this thread.

I've found that a large majority of the time scum reveal themselves in the first few pages. If you can scum-hunt from day 1, minute 1 effectively, the game just becomes convincing people that your hunches are right.

I was in a game where a scum actually posted that he had rolled scum after a long time of only rolling town and asked for advice. This was his opening post.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Hi Cain, Hi Nancy, always a pleasure, now what are we gonna do to run mislynches?

oops meant that for the scum PT my bad

I quoted you in my alltown hood by mistake. I hope no one catches on.