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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:51 am

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In post 525, popsofctown wrote:VOTE: Hectic RCE hammer it?
I don't want to NL
This is so scummy btw. Reconsidered my read on pops given she essentially drove the wagon around to me when we could've just lynched Drew, and then tried to get someone to hammer me without letting me claim.
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:52 am

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Tho I'm still not sure why pops shouldn't claim. I mean scum know she has a pr now so it won't be as if we are outing a pr.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:54 am

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Gameplay is strong town given the end of last day's events.

Agreed, some kind of claim if not a fully transparent one is warranted here
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:57 am

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Im just wary that leaving scumpops alone with whatever she has gathered from the crown might turn out to be fatal down the line.
Also the whole RCE situation is veryy sketchy.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:06 am

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In post 572, RCEnigma wrote:Based on the level of power you got and not what you got specifically. Is it worth the risk of scum picking up something similar?
Proposing nobody gets the crown when Hectic is practically conftown atm lol
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:08 am

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The counterplay for PRs varies, gameplay. And scum rolestopper seems like a good fit for this setup.

I did make some-kind-of-not-fully-transparent-claim, I have an ability, and we should still lynch scum.

My power makes me think we should crown Hectic today.


re: the Hectic lynch, Drew was always my preferred lynch, but there was very few hours left to deadline, and I counted exactly 5 potential voters online, one of which was Drew, who did not demonstrate willingness to self-vote. I was certain a no-lynch was going to happen but was pleasantly surprised when people started showing up and the thread had much more activity than average near deadline.

pedit: uh RCE didn't say no one gets the crown, he said don't risk scum picking it up. Giving it to Hectic counts as don't risk scum picking it up. He is 110% conftown unless Micc approved something close to bastard which he wouldn't.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:10 am

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In post 563, Oversoul wrote:Egduf (1) - Egduf
Also this makes me think edguf is town
If she was scum with somebody given the talk of crowning her the previous day I think she and her buddy would attempt to swing the crown in her favor. Voting herself alone just seems like she was in the dark like any other.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:14 am

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In post 580, popsofctown wrote:My power makes me think we should crown Hectic today.
You do seem a bit unsure here
Your power or not your power, logic dictates that we should crown Hectic tonight. There is basically no way that scumHectic does a claim like that
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:19 am

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Trying to crown VTs in search of badass powers is tempting. But you're right that I
shouldn't
be unsure, that's the fun greedy play not the safe correct play. Safe correct play is crown the IC.

No idea why they put ICs in a find the townie setup, bad design.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:20 am

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In post 580, popsofctown wrote:And scum rolestopper seems like a good fit for this setup.
How?
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:22 am

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Well since Oversoul confirmed that crown powers are not random(at least I remember so?) Hectic probably isn't getting some amazing power but still it's what should be done.
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:22 am

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I have more shots, all good.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:26 am

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In post 584, gameplay506 wrote:
In post 580, popsofctown wrote:And scum rolestopper seems like a good fit for this setup.
How?
A roleblocker is too boring with the crown mechanic but a rolestopper can block some of the crown abilities
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:32 am

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Um by definition - "A Rolestopper is a role that can target a player to stop all other Night actions from affecting them in any way."
That seems way too op if in the hands of scum-basically one scum renders the other immune to everything for the whole game.
If our only roles are bg and masons it seems a little over the top for scum to have.
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:34 am

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I didn't say ungated rolestopper, there's already one limited shots role in the game.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:40 am

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Yea true
Still against masons and bg?
I mean its only purpose would be to protect from whatever the crown might give. So not only does a townie need to get crowned but that townie has to target the scum that is not a rolestopper(unless he can target himself). It seems like a bit of a stretch.
If anything x-shot roleblocker seems way more probable.
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:48 am

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Whatever, what I'm getting at is that you really shouldn't be afraid of getting stopped now. You claimed to have a permanent ability so there really isn't any other viable target but you right now.
But ok I will stop pushing there right now and hear how others think about that.
Anyway is there anything noteworthy to share about the crown or nah?
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:48 am

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I feel really pretty.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:54 am

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One last thing before I go:
In post 553, popsofctown wrote:RCE's claim gets even more questionable with Hectic's claim
In post 580, popsofctown wrote:He is 110% conftown unless Micc approved something close to bastard which he wouldn't.
What made you go from questionable to conf town?
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:55 am

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Oh shit that was directed at hectic.
Disregard that one
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:55 am

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:oops:
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:56 am

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what? RCE is still hella questionable. Hectic is 110% conftown. The "he" in post 580 is Hectic. These posts are aligned.

pedit: lol
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:58 am

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In post 578, gameplay506 wrote:Im just wary that leaving scumpops alone with whatever she has gathered from the crown might turn out to be fatal down the line.
Also the whole RCE situation is veryy sketchy.
Pops dies tonight since I'm on Hectic so like... There isn't a reason for paranoia atm. I'm also assuming the power is usable the same night as receiving it.
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:59 am

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In post 587, popsofctown wrote:
In post 584, gameplay506 wrote:
In post 580, popsofctown wrote:And scum rolestopper seems like a good fit for this setup.
How?
A roleblocker is too boring with the crown mechanic but a rolestopper can block some of the crown abilities
Umm this makes it seem like you're able to choose from multiple abilities?
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:02 am

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In post 585, gameplay506 wrote:Well since Oversoul confirmed that crown powers are not random(at least I remember so?) Hectic probably isn't getting some amazing power but still it's what should be done.
The crown seems more like a supplemental thing at this point. Just having a confirmed townie around reduces the Poe.
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