Open 765: Haunted Village (Over)

[RCEnigma]

What? Low probability =/= impossible

[Vorkuta]

-Last undead to be lynched

Correction- also if lynched during LyLo/MyLo

[tris]

What are you hoping to get out of the speculation?

[Vorkuta]

What? Low probability =/= impossible

*sighs*
That many tricksters would warrant a banshee (banshee strongman > trickster invis)
or they're banking on the non-consecutive-night kill

[PenguinPower]

Vorkuta:

[Vorkuta]

What are you hoping to get out of the speculation?

score free and low hanging town points

HOWEVER, I want to know that if we get to the point when we have a play like "vig xxx or cop yyyy" we can actually pull it off.

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There's a zombie in play. We can't get rid of it by lynching it, and if we have absolutely no tools to get rid of them it would be optimal to enter LyLo ASAP

[PenguinPower]

I don't like Vorkuta

idgi

why not?

[Vorkuta]

Also an afterthought- I've played an open normal (two-fold C9++) where a quarter of the players were still fucking confused about the fact that it was a MULTIBALL game ~30 pages in.
I've also played one-night-ultimate-werewolf where players were just confused.
At the very least, this setup speculation will ""inspire"" several players, or inform them of what's possible and what's unlikely.

Also... you know... zombie in play

[tris]

HOWEVER, I want to know that if we get to the point when we have a play like "vig xxx or cop yyyy" we can actually pull it off.

I don't know what you mean here.

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There's a zombie in play. We can't get rid of it by lynching it, and if we have absolutely no tools to get rid of them it would be optimal to enter LyLo ASAP

What? Like purposely lynching town? Why would we do that?

[tris]

At the very least, this setup speculation will ""inspire"" several players, or inform them of what's possible and what's unlikely.

I guess

[RCEnigma]

What? Low probability =/= impossible

*sighs*
That many tricksters would warrant a banshee (banshee strongman > trickster invis)
or they're banking on the non-consecutive-night kill

Yeah not applicable to this game. Just something I thought would be a fun setup.

[Vorkuta]

I don't know what you mean here.

I mean come on
You've played in games where someone goes
"Invest on X, Vig Y, Protecc Z"

What? Like purposely lynching town? Why would we do that?

I still need to think more about this, but for starters it means I'm much more open to policy-ing lurkers out of principle in this game

Also probability-wise the top setups (with 6 points) are

Spoiler:

-Priest x2 (Unlikely = no ghosts or immortals)
-Priest + WH + {Ench/Trickster} (Unlikely = too many PRs, no Vampire)
-Priest + Sorc
-Priest + Healer + {Ench/Trickster}
-Priest + Angel + {Ench/Trickster}

Huhhhhhhhh
The fact that they didn't pick a roleblocker is interesting

[RCEnigma]

I think you've been implying scum chose Zombie because it's safe yeah? No Venge, vig, or enchant? Was your hypothetical combination serious?

[Vorkuta]

I'd like to invite everyone to pretend that they were scum and playing this game with me
How many total TPRs would warrant you picking a role blockers?
3? 4?

[PenguinPower]

17

[Vorkuta]

because it's safe yeah?

That's my issue, and I'm going to need town consensus/opinion/more experienced setup guys/

the scum team

to comment on this.

ASSUMING this game had like 5 cops.
Would you pick ghosts/immortals to fuck with the cop results
Roleblockers/stoppers/wtvs to "no result" PM them
or a Zombie because "lol fuck you guys" AND "well if they know we're going to pick ghosts/immortals, there goes our element of surprise"

[RCEnigma]

Half the prs don't really warrant having a roleblocker. Only setup that needs one for sure is Priest + Healer.

[Vorkuta]

I'd strongman into that instead tbh

[RCEnigma]

I guess, non consecutive isn't as reliable. Plus you can still wifom the setup with roleblocker. Strongman says "hey you guys definitely have a healer".

[RCEnigma]

Inb4 we end up the only two playing.

[PenguinPower]

I think you're already there

[PenguinPower]

[RCEnigma]

This could have been a 3 pp affair.

[Vorkuta]

17

I honestly would pick a vampire into 3 PRs- just via sheer force of RNG you have a chance of hitting something.

Strongman says "hey you guys definitely have a healer".

Shit that's a good point

and why everyone needs to chip in their 2 cents

Ok, the ONLY 6 point 100% Zombie-safe setup
Priest & Healer & Trickster (or 2 priests, or 3 healers, or 4 tricksters and.... you get the idea)
and that warrants a vamp to prevent follow-the-cop nonsense

[Unstuck in Time]

I'm reading Vorkuta town for the setup spec.

Little scum lean on Tris for sort of discouraging it. Had that on NaCl, but quickly came back around after realizing the scum knew the roles already. That also comes out as a slight townslip, but I don't put much weight at all into slips.

Also don't like how quick that wagon built up on Vorkuta.

BP