Open 80 - Double Day Mafia (Game Over!)

[killa seven]

confirm.

[killa seven]

gimbo allways acts like this.

[killa seven]

what game was that, im assuming its over?

[killa seven]

im not a fan of random voting, hense me skipping that part.

[killa seven]

gimbo, leed us to the scum boss.

[killa seven]

im confused about the cop investigation talk, is that this game? i thought this was day one....

[killa seven]

i was refering to post 94, i guess he was talkin about another game.

PEEP PEEP

dcorbe - 2 (Gimbo, Joubert)
LaptopGun - 2 (armlx, Bogre)
Gimbo - 1 (dcorbe)
armlx - 1 (Manito)
Joubert - 1 (ShadowGirl)
Firestarter - 1 (LaptopGun)
forbiddanlight - 1 (Firestarter)
voodo - 1 (forbiddanlight)

Not Voting - killa seven, Lquiz, CF Riot, Voodo, SpyreX, Corinthian

16 alive, 9 to lynch.

-Mod

[killa seven]

vote forbiddanlight

please dont vote yourself and hunt scum thanks.

[killa seven]

town should never vote for himself or herself, ask to be replaced.
im also callin her bluff at the sametime seeing if she really wants to be in this game, thanks for ruining my plan guys.

ZING

forbiddanlight - 3 (Firestarter, forbiddanlight, killa seven)
dcorbe - 2 (Gimbo, Joubert)
LaptopGun - 2 (armlx, Bogre)
Gimbo - 1 (dcorbe)
armlx - 1 (Manito)
Joubert - 1 (ShadowGirl)
Firestarter - 1 (LaptopGun)

Not Voting - Lquiz, CF Riot, Voodo, SpyreX, Corinthian

16 alive, 9 to lynch.

-Mod

[killa seven]

pity is for the weak.

[killa seven]

lol i figured youd cop out and say, "i was baiting scum" ive seen this done before, your not fooling me. dont play the poor me im under pressure, vote = myself i dont want to play anymore then try to turn me into scum for voting a quiter who cant handle pressure.

[killa seven]

nah, ive heard of "the mole"

[killa seven]

from what your saying, first your saying i was having a bad day so i voted my self, then your saying you had a plan all along. to me it seems like you really wanted to quit and voted yourself and then later retracted and pretended it was all a master plan.

[killa seven]

ive allready stated what i think of self voting if your town.
so dont self hammer, thanks. unless your scum

[killa seven]

We need to look at those who hopped on the wagon, positions like 5-9, IMO.

It was too quick for my liking.

its k7 and i didnt "hop on"

[killa seven]

I dont like the way gimbo acted around the hammer of fl and his "shit post" but knowing gimbo he allways acts spazzy so its hard to tell if hes over anxious scum or just being a crazy player as allways. i need to look into the farie case the wagon came pretty fast.

LOOKIT THE LITTLE BIRDIE

FaerieLord - 3 (SpyreX, Manito, Knight of Cydonia)
Manito - 1 (FaerieLord)
Gimbo - 1 (Firestarter)
Firestarter - 1 (armlx)
killa seven - 1 (CF Riot)

Not Voting - Joubert, killa seven, SpyreX, Firestarter, Corinthian, LaptopGun, ShadowGirl, dcorbe, Bogre, LlamaFluff

15 alive, 8 to lynch.

-Mod

[killa seven]

Hi. im here need to catch up losts of huge posts

[killa seven]

Killa seven. Hence the vote. Forbiddanlight's trap was foolish, because those kind of "traps" almost always backfire, but I think k7's jump on that wagon was scummy nonetheless.

are we still on this?
im going to look into your posts.

[killa seven]

No. id just like to read into him, he seems to just want to fall on yesterdays argument, kinda slidin through the game in the open.

[killa seven]

yea i just read your posts, all uve said is ive done something unordinary scummy as opposed to usual, then next post days later vote me with no explanation and call them instincts.

[killa seven]

Im going to cut down on some of my games and roll up my sleaves and try and post more "content" but huge posts arent my style, but there will be more k7 to go around tho.

[killa seven]

fire. why u askin me for a response when i explained why i voted when i did and talked about theat whole situation when it happened. what do you want to explain i had cramps that day or something?

[killa seven]

*face palm*

[killa seven]

^ that statement was scummy in itself.
lets lynch killa if hes scum ill listen to whatever u have to say? wtf?
and what makes u think me and coron would be partners because we both have lurked? yea buddy great analysis.

[killa seven]

koc attacking me for lurking while his buddy FL is layin low going unnoticed is severly noted.

[killa seven]

Kotc wrote..

First minor contradiction here. First he said "Gimbo is always like this". Now, I'm willing to bet most of hte games you've played with him, he wasn't scum.
Now you're basically trying to pressure him into leading hte town to the Godfather. Huh?

^^^^
yo, can u not tell a fuckin joke when you see one? this is reaching and very weak.

[killa seven]

yo, can u not tell a fuckin joke when you see one? this is reaching and very weak.

In this post, K7 ignores vast quantities of an attack to pick on one weaker point.

his first "point" is utter bs, no need to pick on the rest of his corny logic.

[killa seven]

KOC, just beacuase you and FL have been arguing and voting eachother doesnt mean you arent buddies, ive seen scum attack eachother when pressure gets on one scum member, then they quickly hop off and pursue someone else furiously then later say hey we possibly cant be buddies look how we been arguing.

[killa seven]

speaking of lurkers..

[killa seven]

QFT

unvote, vote k7

your in this game?

[killa seven]

what is scummy about me guys? other then i lurk?
news flash K7 doesnt usualy do much on day 1's and certaining when im a bored townie role. im hapyy to sit here and chat with you guys all untill im lynched.

[killa seven]

So, K7's buggered off again. I think someone is trying to avoid the difficult questions by lurking.

That is what he does.

That's it ><

Vote: killa seven

you forgot to unvote then vote me buddy.
yay im not at -2 yet

OH MY GOD, IT'S PAGE 32!

killa seven - 6 (TheSweatpantsNinja, Firestarter, Knight of Cydonia, SpyreX, StrangerCoug, Corinthian)
Manito - 2 (FaerieLord, LlamaFluff)
Firestarter - 2 (armlx, CF Riot)
FaerieLord - 1 (Manito)
armlx - 1 (LaptopGun)

Not Voting - Joubert, killa seven, orangepenguin

15 alive, 8 to lynch.

-Mod

[killa seven]

wait n/m u did un vote

[killa seven]

Wow. well, this was going to be a full LoS, but I'd actually like to have a focused look at forbiddan light.

First 2-3 pages, she makes a couple of random votes, removes them fairly quickly (fair enough, you might say, since they were random), then starts a small off-shoot convo into the value of the random votes.
She then self-votes. Now, I haven't played with forbiddan, so I have nothing meta to go on, but I have played around 25 games of Mafia/Mafia variants on other forums (none as good as this one), and if experience tells me anything, it's that a self-voter, who then pulls the vote off themselves as soon as a wagon looks like forming, is going to be scum.

My thoughts are out there, that's one of the most important things a mislynchee can do. I can only hope you find the scum with the help of my analysis or something.

Seriously, rereading this, I'm not surprised I'm being voted. Hell, if I weren't me, I'd be voting me for this stuff. The only problem is the fact I am me and know I'm town.

I also don't like the way she keeps reiterating she's going to be a mislynchee - it seems like that's her only defence. She's also tried to pass it off as 'a plan'... well I think it was a plan, but it was one to reverse-psych us out.
And if you want some final, damning evidence (IMHO):

I'm sorry, but I don't see how you can vote K7 over me looking over my actions. I'm glad you didn't, but it does make me wary.

Okay, I'm sorry, but

what?

This is reverse-psych play at it's finest, IMHO. Classic WIFOM. We're all supposed to think "Oh, surely a Mafia player wouldn't want us to vote them!"

Vote: forbiddanlight

Here you are attacking and wagoning the person you claim i was wagoning and called me scummy for it, seems to be the same reasons as me.

I honestly think if the town doesn't lynch forbidden after quite possibly the scummiest first day I ever did see, we're screwed. Anyone who acts this scummy as town is a hindrance, and anyone who acts so blatantly obvious as scum is a gift.

And like my mum says, never refuse a gift. Because you can always get store credit.

So if the town doesnt lynch who you want then we are all scummy?

anyone who acts this way as town is a hindrance

Quite frankly, m'dear, if you are town, I'd be almost as happy to see you go. You're doing nothing by playing this way other than helping the Mafia.

Your happy to lynch a townie just because you dont like the way they play? hmm seems familiar, you seem to have a nazi complex mr scum.

Which is why I don't worry as much about what he's saying. His vote is warranted, but I figured I'd point out the part where

he's stating that he'd be happy to see me go even as town.

That's NOT good, at all. But either way, I can't make much of it since my play has been horrid this game, so I just point it out so that it might be examined later.

I'm really glad you responded like this, forbiddan. Before, I had a 1% suspicion you might have been town. Now, it's somewhere around 0.00001%.
You've rather cleverly misinterpreted my post there. I said that I was pretty damn sure that you were scum, but that if you were town, you're doing us no help. I at no point said *bolded part*, I just stated that it makes no sense for a town player to do this, since it only helps the Mafia, and that if you were town, it wouldn't be a loss. I never said I was lynching you without caring if you were town or scum, which is what you've tried to imply.

Koc again explains why he thinks killin townies is a good idea.

He does have an opinion... it just happens to be the same as 4 or 5 other people's at any given time.

Quote:
Quite frankly, m'dear, if you are town, I'd be almost as happy to see you go. You're doing nothing by playing this way other than helping the Mafia.


Um...bolded part...your bolded part of my quote says exactly this...I think you are stretching.

And now you're stretching. I said I'd be almost as happy. That doesn't mean I'm voting for you whether or not you're town - it means if you aren't scum, you're screwing up our first lynch, and it's better than we find out what you are now, than let you confuse us further, when it's down to 4/5 to lynch.

How is she screwing up our first lynch? u can just as easily go look into other players u think is scum instead of who has the biggest wagon on them.

Yeah, look, fl, we all know you're scum, or the most retarded townie ever, so stop trying to throw crap out there to try and get a townie lynch day 1.5.

Look whos talking. everyone who doesnt agree with you is either scum or a retarded townie?

these are just a few posts by koc im tired ill go into more of his posts later. these just scream scummy to me, hes attacking me for reasons and i appaears he was pushing FLs wagon pretty hard him self

[killa seven]

K7 has now thrown koc under the bus and he isn't the only

won

lurking. But damn it, he is right that he isn't the only one. Then again he's been scummy for eons and the mafia would be desperate to cast scruituny on anyone else. Hmmm, still looks scummy to me.

FAIL.

[killa seven]

join me in lynching KOC?

[killa seven]

did u guys read my pbpa?

[killa seven]

vote manito

[killa seven]

^read LL's post.
i thought i did a good pbpa of koc but i guess no one likes it
im willin to switch to corithinan tho. i dont like his lurkerness then hoppin on my wagon for a weak reason.

[killa seven]

KOc was pushing FL's wagon harder then me, i cant believe hes attacking me for voting her.
i never actually said "i knjow your town" i said townies shouldnt vote for themselves, hense her saying "vote me blah im a townie you guys are wrong"
read my pbpa of him attacking FL jesus..

[killa seven]

I'm not really buying the "meta" reasoning. If killa 7 is scummy, he's scummy. His actions and words have been consistently anti-town, and he wasn't really the driving force behind it, but he definitely sprung off the forbiddan mislynch. Based on others observations of him, and my own, I'm willing to

vote: killa 7

.

great the new guy joined the best wagon to avoid conflict
your willin to join to avoid conflict, great nice vote scumbag.

[killa seven]

im here.

[killa seven]

We're still split on killa seven vs. Corinthian right now, and I agree that both are scummy. I ask everybody in this game: Which of those two do you feel is scummier: K7 or Corin?

corin.

[killa seven]

i wish we were lynching koc.

[killa seven]

i put a kase on koc pages ago and asked for his lynch and voted for him.. so whats your point armlx?

[killa seven]

my 3 suspicions are
KOC
Manito
corithion

I firmly believe koc is scum.
manito looks really scummy as well
I havent posted a case on coron so thats why im not voting him, im not a firm believer of just voting for someone to save myself.
but his entrance on my wagon and his reasons for voting for me seem retarded.
Still prefer my top 2.

[killa seven]

I'm mulling over the KoC and the only thing I've noticed is that no one in his situation would want to remain in the game unless they had a very big reason for wanting to stay in this game. Having a good time, likes other players, has a non-vanilla townie roll (in this particular game, we only have mafia), etc. KoC has a motivation to remain. I'm just clueless whether that's good or bad.

This is weak speculation at best. Read the many "Favorite Role" threads to find some people actually prefer vanilla to mafia or even power roles.

lol thats uh.. strange.

[killa seven]

hey hey hey.. how is coronithion more help full then me?

[killa seven]

Because you weren't wrong about fl either?

Isnt FL the one you are questioning..

[killa seven]

word my bad.. i was confused.

[killa seven]

Probably just that.

[killa seven]

me or just players in general?

[killa seven]

Im all for a KOC lynch.

[killa seven]

Lurking to escape wagon = Scummy
Reasoning + explaining off a wagon = Town.
Geddit?

The wagon formed based on my lurking (for the most part) so me continuing to lurk doesnt prove your point that i was "escaping"
i allready provided a case and reasons to vote you yesterday which you and others ignored..

[killa seven]

vote KOC

[killa seven]

FoS: killa seven

for not stating a reason to vote Knight of Cydonia.

stop chainsaw defensing.

I voted him yesterday and did a sexy lil case.. and posting today i would like to lynch him i just now got around 2 voting him today.

[killa seven]

SC - do you want any more proof that K7 is a massive anti-town scum player? He's accusing anyone he can of being scum, or chainsawing... oh, and if you missed it, his "case" against me was actually him just quoting all of my points in my PbPA of him, and saying "This is bullshit" or "Lol, can't u take a joke d00d?"

Ive only voted for you and manito and FL in this game.. thats hardly "everyone"
and the buddy buddy between you too is staggering.

[killa seven]

Okay, then I point you at my earlier PbPA, while I write up a revised edition to include the meagre additions since I posted it. In there, find what I consider to be pretty damning evidence that he knew perfectly well that forbiddan was town, and pushed the lynch anyway, and has been lurking and playing anti-town all game.

You were on the same lynch driving it hard.. i never stated "i know your town" i said dont vote for yourself IF your town.

[killa seven]

I believe i allready answered that.. and just because 2 people try to get eachother lynched doesnt mean they arent scum buddy's thats the dumbest thing i ever heard.

[killa seven]

OP why are you voting me? you have lurked way worse then me im sure.
Ill do a PBPA on you as well, its funny i keep forgetting your in this game.

[killa seven]

Nah FL isnt attacking me, it was a joke thing in the scum chat last night.
Grammar Bash 08.. everytime someone made a grammar error everyone corrected it and corrected the fail correction and so forth.

[killa seven]

Yea i guess we will have to wait for the two replacements, plus 2 others are on v/la

[killa seven]

killa seven, when KoC does a PBPA on you, I want to know what you have to say on both the PBPA and KoC himself.

Agreed.

[killa seven]

Knight of Cydonia, my vote's not going anywhere until I see that PBPA you said you'd do of killa seven.

Notice how less and less content he posts as the pressure is on him.

[killa seven]

I think FS is more scummy than FL at the moment. The case against her isn't going anywhere, so I am not even going to bother to press it for now. Maybe at someother point.

On the other hand, KoC is far scummier then either of those two players, yet people continue to ignore him.

Only his buddies are ignoring him.

YOU CAN'T HAVE A PIE WITHOUT COOL HWHIP

Firestarter - 4 (CF Riot, armlx, SpyreX, Knight of Cydonia)
Knight of Cydonia - 3 (LlamaFluff, killa seven, StrangerCoug)
FaerieLord - 1 (Manito)
StrangerCoug - 1 (TheSweatpantsNinja)
killa seven - 1 (Joubert)
Manito - 1 (FaerieLord)
CF Riot - 1 (Firestarter)

Not Voting - orangepenguin

13/7.

-Mod

[killa seven]

Im still excited about my vote.

[killa seven]

Minor FoS: Knight of Cydonia for strawmanning FaerieLord. If she's lost, though, it would be best for her to ask about what she's confused about.

FaerieLord = he.

And if you aren't posting because you are lost, reread.

Just to clear this up, i have chatted with FarieLord in scum chat, and he is indeed a male, im guessing everyone assuming he was a female made him change his gender icon to female.

[killa seven]

But, in the meantime lets DO something constructive like just up and turbolynch someone. Anyone.

Something does need to happen, and I am working on *another* KoC case. I hope to have it up before the weekend starts, it will be my last hurrah at the 2.0 lynch of obv-scum.

If i had room to sig this i would, but frankly the ckd quote in my sig.. is so much more win.

[killa seven]

Oh Hai!

[killa seven]

Im getting scum vibes off of OP. need to go read his posts again.

[killa seven]

sorry for the inactivity..

[killa seven]

More OP lynch?

[killa seven]

From what i understand people think fl and me are scum based on fl's actions not mine.

i flat out think your scum.
ill throw a case up soon.

[killa seven]

ill post some content after work

[killa seven]

sorry im behind in my games, i will post that OP case soon.

[killa seven]

Told you i was town >=(