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Rick Dalton · Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:25 am

Yeah, Ethos was a bad kill.

I want Roster. The only reason I didn’t push Roster before was because I thought Chemist was crumbing that they were masons.

Rick Dalton · Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:26 am

I tracked Vault to Ethos. He’s telling the truth.

Rick Dalton · Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:31 am

Lil Uzi Vert, Croag, Lapsa, Mumble, rosterfoster, Vorkuta, Darth Baker,

Probably have all the scum in them.

Rick Dalton · Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:37 am

In post 976, rosterfoster wrote:VOTE: Vaultdweller

This needed lynching a long time ago.

In post 977, Mumble wrote:VOTE: VaultDweller

I want one of these today.

Chickadee · Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:41 am

In post 1002, Rick Dalton wrote:Lil Uzi Vert, Croag, Lapsa, Mumble, rosterfoster, Vorkuta, Darth Baker,

Probably have all the scum in them.

Lapsa slot here

I'm very interested to know why you're scum reading this slot. Let's talk.

Vorkuta · Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:42 am

In post 986, VaultDweller wrote:Town reading me is a scum tell.

Existing in my game is a scum-tell

In post 988, Almost50 wrote:Vorky defended both Baker and roster with some weird reasoning

Quote and example of how it was ""weird" or GTFO.
Do your legwork on this one

In post 1001, Rick Dalton wrote:I tracked Vault to Ethos. He’s telling the truth.

In post 988, Almost50 wrote:Also 984 is weird. You either believe the claim OR you are waiting for a CC. You can't have them both.

The ^ counts as confirmation, but why exactly can't I have both..?
All I'm doing is stating that if there IS a CC, I might be more on VD's side than on the other one.

Vorkuta · Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:44 am

In post 1004, Chickadee wrote:I'm very interested to know why you're scum reading this slot. Let's talk.

*interjects*

Hi- another Lapsa disbeliever here

In post 814, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 809, johhny sno wrote:why lapsa?
-meh activity & contribution
-have you ISO'd the guy and counted his average word count per post?
-you said VD isn't using his vote effectively, so look at this guy and his pushes
-upon a reread, he's been the one ducking a few questions as well- whether it's intentional or unintentional idk but yeah

Chickadee · Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:52 am

Ok Vork, that actually gives me something to go on here. Thank you!

It seems most of your issue with this slot is activity based? That wouldn't apply to me. You don't have a baseline for that with me yet, as I've only been here like a couple hours. Same slot, different person.

Personally, I also tend to be a person of few words, but I try to make the words I say count. So average word count per post is a weird reason to scum read someone.

I do tend to be slot with my votes, but deliberate. Look up literally any game (it's not my job to link you). But I do think I use my votes effectively.

I can't really speak to questions that were aimed at my predecessor, unless they're about my role. So I'm gonna scratch that for now. If anyone has any questions they still think apply to me, I'm all ears.

Do you have any basis to continue scum reading the slot now that someone else is in it? It seems like at the very least, I should be in a neutral slot on your radar at the moment given the reasons you were SRing me.

bob3141 · Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:53 am

been comparing to viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79696

that had vig.

Chickadee · Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:53 am

@Rick Dalton - could you tell me a bit more about your claim, since you've already claimed. What do you mean by ungated? Please humor me. I'm going somewhere with this.

Vorkuta · Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:55 am

Cheers

Now see- I believe that given the lack of activity in this game, scum had/has absolutely no incentive to post anything "of substance".
My Lapsa SR wasn't entirely on "inactivity", but on "inactivity AT those points in time".
Like the selective disregard of questions addressed to him BACK THEN. Now those questions are no longer relevant, but that doesn't really mean you start off with a brand new clean slate.

Otherwise your argument can be entirely reduced to "hey guys, I know my predecessor was scum, but I replaced in and I'm a brand new player so.... neutral me kthnx"

Strong opening though- I dig it, and please breathe life into this game.

Vorkuta · Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:57 am

In post 1008, bob3141 wrote:that had vig.

Who are you, what did you replace, and how is that relevant...?

Hi welcome to the game?

Idk how to respond

Rick Dalton · Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:00 am

In post 1004, Chickadee wrote:
In post 1002, Rick Dalton wrote:Lil Uzi Vert, Croag, Lapsa, Mumble, rosterfoster, Vorkuta, Darth Baker,

Probably have all the scum in them.
Lapsa slot here

I'm very interested to know why you're scum reading this slot. Let's talk.

Never said I was scum reading those 8. Just that scum were in there. Just means I don’t have many town reads. The town reads I do have I feel I’m pretty confident in.

Rick Dalton · Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:00 am

Most of those slots are null for me

Rick Dalton · Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:01 am

In post 1009, Chickadee wrote:@Rick Dalton - could you tell me a bit more about your claim, since you've already claimed. What do you mean by ungated? Please humor me. I'm going somewhere with this.

It means I’m pretending like I can act every night the entirety of the game.

Almost50 · Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:03 am

In post 1002, Rick Dalton wrote:Lil Uzi Vert, Croag, Lapsa, Mumble, rosterfoster, Vorkuta, Darth Baker,

Probably have all the scum in them.

There's something I wanna say
That I probably shouldn't say
But I'm gonna say it anyway

I wouldn't put Lapsa in this group, because the slot has been replaced due to a mod error. (If anyone wants to argue against that, I am totally uninterested. Feel free to do whatever you want).

Vorkuta · Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:04 am

wtf papa dalton doesnt TR me even though I'm doing such a good job

I mean what's par for 17 player larges- 3~5? out of 7?
Being put on that list is effectively a scum read from you, don't try and BS your way around the wording

Rick Dalton · Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:05 am

That’s a weak reasoning. Lapsa slot could easily just have been scum who received a PR result that was meant to go for a townie.

I get the reasoning, but I think it’s a slippery slope to confirm Lapsa slot based on that.

Rick Dalton · Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:07 am

In post 1016, Vorkuta wrote:wtf papa dalton doesnt TR me even though I'm doing such a good job

I mean what's par for 17 player larges- 3~5? out of 7?
Being put on that list is effectively a scum read from you, don't try and BS your way around the wording

Not at all. There are many players on that list, you included, that I have zero interest in lynching tbh. I’d probably even defend some of those players.

I put anything that is lean town and under on that list. And it seems to be doing good work with the reactions it’s eliciting.

Rick Dalton · Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:09 am

Only people that weren’t on it were A50, Creature, and Jonny sno, and I believe that’s fair. I believe I am correct in saying they are all town, as I believe they are 3 players I can read really well, if I’m correct on Jonny’s ID.

Chickadee · Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:14 am

In post 1010, Vorkuta wrote:Cheers

Now see- I believe that given the lack of activity in this game, scum had/has absolutely no incentive to post anything "of substance".
My Lapsa SR wasn't entirely on "inactivity", but on "inactivity AT those points in time".
Like the selective disregard of questions addressed to him BACK THEN. Now those questions are no longer relevant, but that doesn't really mean you start off with a brand new clean slate.

Otherwise your argument can be entirely reduced to "hey guys, I know my predecessor was scum, but I replaced in and I'm a brand new player so.... neutral me kthnx"

Strong opening though- I dig it, and please breathe life into this game.

Ok, that's fair.

I don't know what the game felt like in real-time so I don't have much of a response. But I do hope I can breath life into this game.

In post 1012, Rick Dalton wrote:
In post 1004, Chickadee wrote:
In post 1002, Rick Dalton wrote:Lil Uzi Vert, Croag, Lapsa, Mumble, rosterfoster, Vorkuta, Darth Baker,

Probably have all the scum in them.
Lapsa slot here

I'm very interested to know why you're scum reading this slot. Let's talk.
Never said I was scum reading those 8. Just that scum were in there. Just means I don’t have many town reads. The town reads I do have I feel I’m pretty confident in.

So help me out a bit and tell me which players are actually scum reads, because it really seems like you're trying to go back on wording.

Why don't you have interest in lynching?

Chickadee · Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:15 am

Sorry, let me re-phase that last sentiment, I think it came out wrong. Why would you put someone on a scum list that you have no interest in lynching?

Vorkuta · Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:16 am

In post 1020, Chickadee wrote:I don't know what the game felt like in real-time

You've ISO'd the mod and saw his prod-gifs?
That tells a good part of the story

Chickadee · Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:18 am

In post 1022, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 1020, Chickadee wrote:I don't know what the game felt like in real-time
You've ISO'd the mod and saw his prod-gifs?
That tells a good part of the story

I have. But there's just no substitute for being here real-time.

Almost50 · Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:24 am

In post 1017, Rick Dalton wrote:That’s a weak reasoning. Lapsa slot could easily just have been scum who received a PR result that was meant to go for a townie.

I get the reasoning, but I think it’s a slippery slope to confirm Lapsa slot based on that.

Or they received a result they shouldn't have because the target is Ninja?? That's more like it in my mind, knowing the mod (and his errors). << NO OFFENSE.

Hint: I was a BG once and I protected Town!RC, and Kop was the mod. Somehow the kill on RC did go through because Kop forgot I was BGing him.