Pikmin Mafia - Game over

[armlx]

That admittedly looks very bad, but I really do think I'm onto something here. It rides rather heavily on GS, unfortunately.

How so?

Fos Xdaamno

for fishing for that before GS has claimed. Apply this FOS to anyone else who did this as I'm too lazy ATM to look it up (I know Jester was one),

[JamesThePhox]

Well, my role doesn't say that I have a bomb-like ability. It only says I'm immune to poison. But I haven't seen a poison-like "death". I assumed there was some latent ability that White pikmin aren't informed of. When I got my role I assumed that upon my death, a monster would die, because that's how it is in the game.

Claus, I didn't vote for you, I just said I would not mind you being lynched. There's a difference.

But I love the hasty voting on me. Looks like I found the enemy.

[JamesThePhox]

"PetroleumJelly... I mean... Louie will be running the show for awhile." Didn't read this line. My bad.

"The only way that Bulbmin can be killed if they are not under your command - that is, before ever being whistled -

is if a Cannon Beetle flattens them, get squashed by another enemy

"

I thought that converted them into the enemy, at least when I played the game. In any case, I know Bulbmins have fought my pikmin before in the game, so I don't consider a bulbmin as a pro-town role.

[dcorbe]

I think we were on to something with that JTP wagon yesterday.

Vote: JTP

[The Jester]

I believe we're still waiting before we move further with anything else.

[dcorbe]

I believe we're still waiting before we move further with anything else.

He's not close enough to lynch to be hammered yet, so I don't see what the harm in voting is.

[Greasy Spot]

Sorry for my absence, I have been out of town for the last two weeks with very limited access.

First of all my color is Purple.

Second

vote: Jtp

for the slip on the White comment.

[petroleumjelly]

Vote Count!
With 12 alive, it will take 7 to lynch.

4 JamesThePhox (armlx, Claus, dcorbe, Greasy Spot)
1 armlx (Gorrad)
1 Ghostwriter (Kison)
1 Greasy Spot (skitzer)
Not Voting: GhostWriter, JamesthePhox, Nightson, The Jester, Xdaamno

[Gorrad]

Gorrad- Yellow
Xdaamno- Red
GhostWriter - Red
skitzer - Blue
Kison - Blue
armlx - Blue
Greasy Spot- purple
JamesThePhox- white
Nightson- white
Claus- bulbmin
The Jester- Red
dcorbe - Red

ZombieSlayer54, Purple Pikmin, beaten to death Day 1
Flameaxe, Red Pikmin, blown off the map Night 1
farside22, Blue Pikmin, electrocuted Night 1
sonickid01, Puffy Blowhog, beaten to death Day 2
JDodge, Yellow Pikmin, blasted Night 2
hasdgfas, Yellow Pikmin, eaten Night 2
windkirby, Anode Dweevil, beaten to death Day 3
JDodge* PyroDwarf, Red Pikmin, eaten Night 3

Red:
Flameaxe
JDodge II
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Xdaamno
Ghostwriter
Jester
dcorbe

Yellow:
JDodge
Hasdgfas
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Gorrad

Blue:
Farside
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Skitzer
Kison
Armlx

Purple:
ZombieSlayer
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Greasy Spot

White:
-----------
JamesThePhox
Nightson

Bulbmin:
-----------
Claus

SK:
Sonickid
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Mafia:
windkirby
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[Gorrad]

Now, onto the analysis.

My speculated setup:
4 Red/Blue, 3 of the other to prevent total game-breaking (Or, more likely, one of the reds is a pro-town lying about their color)
3 Yellow
1 Bulbmin
2 White
2 Purple
Puffy Blowhog (no effect on Purple)
Anode Dweevil (No effect on Yellow)
Munge Dweevil (No effect on White)
Caustic Dweevil (No effect on Blue)
Fiery Dweevil (No effect on Red)

The four Dweevils are Mafia, the Blowhog is SK. There are only two purple/white because they would be assumed to be special, while they are not intrinsicly (I don't see why they couldn't still have a power role).

Claus I'm wary of. If he's telling the truth, he's unNKable now that the Blowhog is dead. If he's lying, then the setup is 4/4/3, not 4/3/3 with the main colors.

Now, keep in mind that there are exactly three Yellow, all confirmed. I don't think our setup would be highly uneven to make the red have two more then normal. Therefore, I highly suggest our lynch be one of those four.

When I thought the setup broken, I thought it would be three of each color plus the five enemies mentioned. Also, important to mention- we now have the colors completely in the open. If there are two kills in a future night, then the poisoner is mafia with the Blowhog. If there are more than three, we're dealing with multiple SKs, but I don't find that likely.

All that said, I'm going to

Vote: Xdaamno

, on the reasoning that people later on the claim list would be less likely to fakeclaim such a full color.

[armlx]

All that said, I'm going to Vote: Xdaamno, on the reasoning that people later on the claim list would be less likely to fakeclaim such a full color.

What are your thoughts on JtP after that whole issue?

[Gorrad]

All that said, I'm going to Vote: Xdaamno, on the reasoning that people later on the claim list would be less likely to fakeclaim such a full color.

What are your thoughts on JtP after that whole issue?

Not to outguess the mod, but I highly doubt we only have one white. JtP probably just got confused. Or, who knows, maybe there IS a white pikmin ability to kill those who kill them. Either way, our best bet is choosing from the claimed reds.

[armlx]

Not to outguess the mod, but I highly doubt we only have one white. JtP probably just got confused. Or, who knows, maybe there IS a white pikmin ability to kill those who kill them. Either way, our best bet is choosing from the claimed reds.

I lol'ed when you said the not to out guess the mod thing. You shouldn't do that when your entire plan is out guessing the mod.

That being said, if I was lynching one of the reds, I really don't know who I would lynch besides me standing by my read on Xdaamno. The 3 there other than him haven't really done much of anything this game.

Still sure JtP is straight up lying though.

[Xdaamno]

That admittedly looks very bad, but I really do think I'm onto something here. It rides rather heavily on GS, unfortunately.

How so?

Fos Xdaamno

for fishing for that before GS has claimed. Apply this FOS to anyone else who did this as I'm too lazy ATM to look it up (I know Jester was one),

I certainly wasn't fishing. Gorrad implied the reason why it rided on GS was public knowledge which I hadn't picked up. I wasn't asking for anything new.

All that said, I'm going to

Vote: Xdaamno

, on the reasoning that people later on the claim list would be less likely to fakeclaim such a full color.

I

never

said that. I said the information lost by fakeclaims seemed to be lower than the information gained by order speculation.

[armlx]

I certainly wasn't fishing. Gorrad implied the reason why it rided on GS was public knowledge which I hadn't picked up. I wasn't asking for anything new.

No, he did not imply that. You were asking for something new.

[Xdaamno]

I certainly wasn't fishing. Gorrad implied the reason why it rided on GS was public knowledge which I hadn't picked up. I wasn't asking for anything new.

No, he did not imply that. You were asking for something new.

Obviously, I read it as if it implied that - whether or not he did is irrelevant when trying to determine my motives.

[armlx]

I don't see any way you could have read it like that though.

That being said, I still don't think you are scum, that FOS was more of a watch yourself then an actual suspicion.

[Gorrad]

Not to outguess the mod, but I highly doubt we only have one white. JtP probably just got confused. Or, who knows, maybe there IS a white pikmin ability to kill those who kill them. Either way, our best bet is choosing from the claimed reds.

I lol'ed when you said the not to out guess the mod thing. You shouldn't do that when your entire plan is out guessing the mod.

Glad I could make you laugh. The thing is, say we managed to lynch all the scum but the Fiery Dweevil. The scum, by bad luck, had killed everyone but the reds and bulbmin. It could end up, by sheer luck, in a 1 scum, 4-7 town scenario with the scum not having any nightkills. If it's seven, that's not a situation that a mod would have the chance of happening. Therefore, at LEAST one of the claimed reds, I'd say two or three, are scum.

[armlx]

Therefore, at LEAST one of the claimed reds, I'd say two or three, are scum.

That is a valid point. I will definitely reread all the reds right now.

[armlx]

And my reread revealed nothing. Of the non-xdaamno people all of them have done almost exactly the same things.

[JamesThePhox]

So sure I lied? I said White Pikmin may have a bomb-like ability. And I don't doubt it, since there are only two whites, of a sea of other pikmin, so the chances of one of them getting killed is very rare. I don't think I was wrong to surmise an ability that I wasn't explicitly told by the Mod.

Anyways I'm still fine with the Claus lynch.

Also, Gorrad, there could be a possibility that the Reds are like normal townies that have a useless immunity, AKA there is no fire-based enemy.

Also, realize that there have only been death by "consumption" so far. So there is also a possibility that the Blowhog and the Dweevil were both SKs and there is a group (3-4) that can only kill by consumption. Which means the red/blue/white pikmin just act as normal townies (unless white pikmin have a bomb-like ability, like I said). Also one of the yellows had a One-shot Vig ability, so it wouldn't be too unlikely that the Dweevil was by himself.

This is also assuming that Dweevil's can't kill by just normal consumption. If they could, then your theory is more likely, Gorrad.

[JamesThePhox]

And also, because I love WIFOM. I want to point out that I was the only one that caught onto windkirby at the end of Day 2, and actually got you all to start considering windkirby as a lynch subject at the start of Day 3.

I don't see why armlx is getting all the credit for getting windkirby lynched.

[Gorrad]

Actually...what do y'all think of the possibility of two scumgroups, one is the three elemental Dweevils, the other is Blowhog and Consumer. The Consumer can't effect White because of the poison. That would explain why there are only two purple and white-their group is smaller.

[The Jester]

That would make sense I think. It is a large game, so I expected two scum groups.

I don't know why JtP thinks that his own role could be given an ability that he wasn't told about. Doesn't make sense at all.

Also, his last post partially feels like he's trying to seem more town by claiming he got people to lynch WK.

[Claus]

I don't know why JtP thinks that his own role could be given an ability that he wasn't told about. Doesn't make sense at all.

This. I don't think he is a white pikmin at all.