Open 765: Haunted Village (Over)

[Gamma Emerald]

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It's a massive buff to town because it makes scum fakeclaiming much harder.

Not really? Read forward and you'll see.

[Gamma Emerald]

Talk about Ben?

Oh, you're gonna be annoyed, but it has to do with him misunderstanding the setup. Because this specific setup requires pregame action by scum I think it's likely his partners would have explained it to him.

I think there was a feeling it was faked

[Something_Smart]

Not really? Read forward and you'll see.

I do intend to read, but can you just link the post/page in question so we can talk about it right now?

[Gamma Emerald]

@tris
Can you post your current reads? My impression is that you are like the most inconspicuous player here. Nothing sticks out of the ordinary. And i kinda wish it did.

Unstuck in Time
Vorkuta
PenguinPower
Hoptic
Gamma Emerald
you as well

are some townreads. There's some people I need to take a look at more.

Maybe Salt goes on that list.

If you had to guess the scumteam now who would it be

[Something_Smart]

I think there was a feeling it was faked

Jester accusation from someone who knows there's no third parties?

I don't see it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Not really? Read forward and you'll see.

I do intend to read, but can you just link the post/page in question so we can talk about it right now?

It's nothing specific but there was talk of what PRs might exist that went on for a while with no real verdict

[Gamma Emerald]

I could afford to sorta because 1) I was a TPR 2) I knew your scumread on me would end once I ended gay Dance

ok

[Something_Smart]

Okay, I don't really see what that has to do with scum fakeclaiming.

Once massclaim hits we'll know exactly how many points are fake versus real.

[Gamma Emerald]

Fake and gay.

Pls don't

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, I don't really see what that has to do with scum fakeclaiming.

Once massclaim hits we'll know exactly how many points are fake versus real.

Actually I get what your logic is. Since town's points are public fake claims won't be as survivable

[Something_Smart]

Exactly.

[Something_Smart]

The purpose of the point system is to prevent PR's from being in direct CC as much as possible.

That's why I'm torn about this rule; on the one hand, it does help skew the balance of information back in town's favor, but on the other hand, it gives town information that the design is based around them not knowing (the exact point count).

[PenguinPower]

Maybe we talk about balance afterward?

[PenguinPower]

Oh...I missed quite a few posts.

[PenguinPower]

Huh...I don't like S_S's read on Ben.

[NaCl]

VOTE: Norwegian it kind of feels like he hopped on the wagon but is content to sit there.

So why does that reasoning make me more vote-worthy than the other people that changed their vote from Ben? I also don't see why changing your vote is scummy. Especially since i think Fake-PP seems legitimately more scummy than Ben. (Though i don't exactly feel strong townie vibes from him either.)

Instead, I'll ask you a question. Do you think Fake-PP is scum? And apart from that, who are your other scumreads?

Oh so salts town, right

-o

Why do you think I'm town?

Anyway-it's kind of a pain to engage with people who don't engage back.
NaCl drops the occasional one liner in my direction but that's about it.

Plus... you know... there's the rest of the roster out there to aid me in my inquisition, so I rely on them to pick up the slack as well

I'm not really engaging with you because I think you're town and I don't think talking to you will help me sort stuff out. Although if you're scum, please feel free to keep talking . Really, though, if you've got questions for me, ask away.

[PenguinPower]

Why wouldn't you want to engage with a townread?

[NaCl]

To be specific, it's not that I don't want to engage, it's that I'm not going to go take the initiative. Because I don't think I'm going to townread him more from the interaction. If he wants to discuss someone else with me I guess that could be productive, but either he's going to make me read him about the same, or possibly suspicious.

Like, maybe he could convince me that he's even more likely to be town, but I don't really think that matters.

[NaCl]

*or possibly make me more suspicious of him.

[PenguinPower]

But you said you didn't think talking with him would sort stuff out.

Wouldn't discussing your reads to see if they were similar/different help sort stuff out?

[NaCl]

Oh, yeah, sure. But I don't think he's brought it up, so I thought he was talking about why I wasn't engaging with him.

[PenguinPower]

But...why don't you bring it up?

[NaCl]

Because I'm not really the teamwork kind of guy...I just kind of prefer to think through things on my own. I don't really know what to talk about. I usually ask reads and stuff of people I'm not townreading to get a better grasp on their motivations. Like, if Vork wants something from me, I'm happy to help. But I don't know how I can get him to help me understand something.

[PenguinPower]

I mean - it's a team game in the end. If you think someone is on your team, you should work with them.

Won't press further atm.

[RCEnigma]

Huh...I don't like S_S's read on Ben.

The read itself or the reason behind it?