Open 765: Haunted Village (Over)

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Who are all of these people?

VOTE: Gamma

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Who are you?

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VOTE: Vorkuta

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@mod: Can we identify the hydras in the first post

Absolutely!

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...They said as they create an equivalent counterwagon...

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There is only one true PP...and it’s the one with the ban powers.

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Greetings, friends. Just found out that this wonderful game is underway. I'm the Hectic head of this hydra, and will therefore be offsetting any towncred my associate Hopkirk accumulates from his good detective work. However, do not be alarmed, I'm not worried about losing towncred because Hopkirk and I are not members of any criminal organisations, but we do occasionally launder money as a hobby. Slightly late right now in the Bahamas, and I'm unsure if I have a comprehensive enough understanding of the setup, so I'll illuminate myself on this matter and read the thread in morning. That is when you can expect me to weigh in with my immeasurable wisdom and sagacity; Hopkirk's reads may be good, but just wait until you see mine.

-Hectic

Are you going to make it a habit of posting in blocks of text like this?

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Vorkuta:

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I don't like Vorkuta

idgi

why not?

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17

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I think you're already there

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It's an RVS wagon...what about the speed is concerning to you?

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pagetop++

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Because making wagons and analyzing what happens is how you generate info and get out of RVS.

I am a strong proponent of wagons.

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oh - ok

back to setup spec

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Excessive setup spec without knowing who is picking it is pretty meh tbh

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Yeah - but this is an actual game of mafia

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I'm going to park on you if you don't move on to working out the players.

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locktown.

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lock scum/town means the player is either read as 100% or very close to 100% that alignment and that read is not changing ("lock")

RCE and I were joking...probably.

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Hop onboard the township everyone. I extend an invitation to Billy, Hopkirk, Unstuck, and Norwegian.

So...uh...really just Unstuck and Norwegian then......

why?

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What do you mean it's permanent? What does the delayed element mean, it doesn't work on the first day?

-Hectic

He quoted the role where it explains exactly how it works........

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I don’t think we should spend so much time figuring out power roles come day 1. Let’s focus on scumtells.

This from Norwegian.

-Hectic

That's half of what I asked for...almost there...

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Ah, that's cool tech.

Unstuck seems to have some dissonance in their reads, so which are the ones you like?

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And I'm actually inclined to agree with his read on Vorkuta too

Which read? The heads differ.

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My avi is Penguins cutting up an Octopus for takozushi.

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Vork - you should refer to me as PP (because that's who I am) and the Platinum Phoenix as the false bird.

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I like Norwegian's snark. I think I could teach him to become great.

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Can't wait until October

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Why are you so bad?

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Oh, chennis is scum this game.

Sad.

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VOTE: Phoenix

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You've played enough games with me for that to be a scummy statement, chenny.

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That was funny.

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Gamma is likely town sooo.....no.

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Yeah, I townread him too so far.

-Hectic

wut?

You just said you wanted to POE lynch him...

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Gamma is likely town sooo.....no.

Why

-Phoenix

Because this feels like town!Gamma...

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I got the same feeling tbh

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D1 sucks.

D1 is important.

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Oh hey...false bird is scum.

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and I got a pagetop

nice job, PP <---- true PP

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Yes...a lead rist is definitely in order.

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Wait, is Phoenix chenny or Elly?

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This is why I hate hydras.

Elly is town
Chenny is scum.

idk what to make of that.

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lead rist

Also ew no don't say this

uh...I c/p'd it

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wow...

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Did you just invoke UT?

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You're on my shitlist.

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Unless you can actually channel his playstyle.

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Oh, Gamma, you've pressed a button that you know not what it does.

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I just think if you start with hydras...you know what his next step would be...right?

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Are we not talking about well-established, old guard meta?

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The hydra hate yes, what I assume you are calling the next step, I'm not sure.

Besides being actually stated in his queue thread

Spoiler:

have some really cool ideas for how you can run a mafia game based around your favorite anime. This is a regrettable life choice, but I'm not here to judge.

...

viewtopic.php?p=10569735#p10569735
viewtopic.php?p=10009647#p10009647

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vc is two posts above......

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{NosrkEE, fake-PP, Hop}

Ha! How do you like that PP?

- Phoenix

A lot. I like it a lot and I hope it catches on with more people.

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Wait...this is a multiball game?

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How do we

know

it’s not a multiball game though?

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Well now - I think I have a lot to say.

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In

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Single

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Word

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Posts

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Solid page top

Off to the pool.

A penguin’s gotta swim you know

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Are you just going to keep page topping with that emoji?

- Phoenix

Yes. It’s my thing that I stole from someone else.

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Not a good vote.

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Assuredly because I think Vorkuta is town/towny

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That should say “assumedly”

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Embarrassing when the snark fails due to autocorrect

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Also, 21 hours 30 minutes, Gamma.

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See...that’s an example of a good vote.

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Also, 21 hours 30 minutes, Gamma.

hmm?

also assuredly kinda worked too

Also I have the most posts rn, let's see how long that lasts

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He's v/la...

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Of all the nonposters to pick.

He's v/la...

Mod Notes NaCl is V/LA on 8/31 and 9/1

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and PP does it again

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hi

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and he does it again

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meh vote, but i'll allow it

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Hi tris

Who’s scum?

-M

Don't know yet. I'm gonna read some ISOs.

I do think Hoptic, Gamma, nbEE, and PP (the real one) are town.

^
the real one...

Hey Phoenix. Did you see that?

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NaCL ignored me for the first 200 posts.

conf!scum.

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Yeah - wow - Phoenix is scum.

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My feelings are genuinely hurt now.

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Page 9.

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It's attached to the same hydra, no?

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Hi, it's D1 and I go almost solely of gut, tone, and reaction to my slot on D1.

Your partner is batting three for three in scumminess.

You are part of the same slot, so it doesn't really matter what my read on you is.

Though, you haven't done anything to make up for that, and this interaction with me actually makes it worse.

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Because of my gut, your tone, and your reaction to my slot on D1.

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I can't help how you feel but, I don't have much incentive to help someone I think is scum so....

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gut, tone, and reaction to my slot

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I was helpful to someone I townread

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Can't really expound gut except to say that chenny's initial posts strike me as scum him based on the games I've played. Elly's posting is more gut town, but not enough to sway me.

Tone: While I appreciate our mutual enthusiasm for Persona 5 Royal, I don't really like chenny's posts 211-222. Also didn't like post 207

Reaction to my slot: As I already stated, chenny has sufficient games with me to know that post 222 is a useless thing to ask, and I don't like his stance on Vorkuta's early townread on me.

Reading back, I do like Elly more, but this page was bad.

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I did work D1...I feel dirty.

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And note, that work was done solely to be snarky toward Elly and show that I will be helpful to townreads and not scumreads.

Don't expect it to happen again.

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Unless it furthers my snark agenda.

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You should vote fakePP with me, Vork.

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He mentioned me, Gamma!

Yay!

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So many townreads but none of them wants to follow me and vote Platinum Chenny.

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Right...

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How are my interactions with Gamma bad?

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your read on me feels very dubious, penguin

a lot of really good people can't read me over ten posts

the fact that your only reasoning is those ten posts is very concerning esp when my tone has been lining up with my town tone pretty much all the time

It’s almost like I disagree with everything you just wrote here...

Almost.

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scum me also would've never commented on the slot that has the most influence.

Which slot?

Also, please self-meta more.

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and vote Platinum Chenny.

My vote is being put to good use where it is right now TRYING TO BEETLE JUICE CJ INTO EXISTENCE

It’s not working.

Help me out here.

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I obviously don’t have much influence.

Hence my drinking wine while sobbing uncontrollably.

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k...chenny is in his own delusional world so I’ll let that rest for now.

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3 houses is great btw. Definitely pick it up.

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PP if you're town you should notice a lot of people's townreads on you are as empty as your wine at the end of the gif

If you think I’m laying all my cards on the table right now you should stop playing this game.

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Didn’t you just say that it did because I’m so influential?

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Maybe I am maybe I’m not. It’s early D1 and it’s where I want to be right now.

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Ok.

P-edit

But it is? We like 2-3 days in.

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Ah 4. Labor Day screws with me.

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I’m reading everything.

I like where I’m at.

P-edit

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Peace chenny.

Back later.

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Welcome to prodging.

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I totes going to start lying to you all beginning on D2.

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Wait...you're seriously recommending no lynch for D1?

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Sorry - maybe you can explain post 727 further then...because that's what it sounds like.

I don't get your second point. What should I clarify?

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So...that was completely unhelpful.

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Ben has 80 posts on his account, 15 of which are this game. He didn't do anything often 12 years ago.

I don't get a genuine or natural feel either.

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Was obviously referring to your time on this site.

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Most active player currently scum read us. If I tried to start a wagon people would start complaining I'm trying to start a wagon and not vote with us, thus destroying my idea of pressure. Voting for an existing wagon - ben being the only current one - I am applying the pressure I wanted to.

- Phoenix

Most active player currently scum read us. If I tried to start a wagon people would start complaining I'm trying to start a wagon and not vote with us, thus destroying my idea of pressure. Voting for an existing wagon - ben being the only current one - I am applying the pressure I wanted to.

- Phoenix

i don't like this post my partner made
My scum senses are tingling a bit. Your thought process described here is even more scummy than if you'd just vote and start another wagon tbh.

Changing my vote.
VOTE: Platinum Phoenix

but i like this even less

Yeah hold up actually. Who is this partner Asgard speaks of?

That would be chenny misediting a quote (by mistake I'm assuming). It was a reference to his hydra partner (which posted the first quote), not Nor saying it.

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when you're scum you know EXACTLY where to make room for yourself but like if you're town you generally play a bit more conservatively because you can push something bad

I think this is quite untrue

Very untrue for me.

idgaf what I push as town. I care a lot about what I push as scum.

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i think i probably need to reread the game in a new lens

hmm...

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(I'll decide who the real PP is after I figure out whether one is scum)

I'll save you the trouble. It's me.

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looking at viewtopic.php?p=10748640#p10748640 from PP's wiki i actually dont see a whole lot of dfference

Besides, ya know, 19 posts....

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gamma pp vorky are my candidates for scum

gamma is #1

Three most active - besides yourself. Hmm...

Actually, I should probably stop reading backwards at this point.

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Wild thought, what if both PPs are scum and the feud is a distancing pmoy

Fair - I tend to hardbus as scum.

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I think I quite like Unstuck.

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Definitely part of the reason.

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What exactly do you think is weak reasoning, and are you tr'ing fakePP?

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So...you don't townread fakePP; you think Gamma's vote is ok; No stance on Asgard's vote; and you are townreading Hoptic who is on the wagon.

Excluding the fact that you fail to mention me - again and it hurts my feelings - why do you think the wagon is strange/bad?

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I initially believed the blind thing,

This was a joke?

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Huh. Well, that's not cool.

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Did I say that it did? Perhaps there are other reasons I asked.

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Wasn't clear, sorry.

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mortal enemy

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The announcing of which roles scum chose. MDS made the change on 8/29 and S_S didn't know about it.

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viewtopic.php?f=51&t=78009

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Maybe we talk about balance afterward?

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Oh...I missed quite a few posts.

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Huh...I don't like S_S's read on Ben.

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Why wouldn't you want to engage with a townread?

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But you said you didn't think talking with him would sort stuff out.

Wouldn't discussing your reads to see if they were similar/different help sort stuff out?

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But...why don't you bring it up?

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I mean - it's a team game in the end. If you think someone is on your team, you should work with them.

Won't press further atm.

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Huh...I don't like S_S's read on Ben.

The read itself or the reason behind it?

Reason.

I mean I don’t tr the slot, but I was talking about the reason.

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Your making the assumption his partners did/were able to explain it to him

And that, even if they did that he would understood what was being explained

And that, even if he did that he was being genuine in his statement. Those same partners could have told him to play dumb.

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I see a grammar error I can’t change!!!

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Can we get this to L-1 and lynch or move on pls?

I'm not a fan of the talking without voting stuff.

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Did we really bail prior to taking it to L-1.

*sigh*

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Can the non-voters pls do something?

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vla until 9/14

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I'm insanely tired right now, and I'm not sure why fake!PP's wagon collapsed, but I see no reason to be elsewhere.

I will be here in the morning at deadline and will hammer something to prevent a no lynch but not moving before then.

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Everyone should continue expressing their preffered lynch btw, this will be useful post flip.

Also so Hoptic can mock you. That's an important thing for him to do apparently.

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I really don't have the patience for this today. Especially from someone - who according to his/her partner - faked being blind.

I'm here to hammer in the morning as I said. I don't really have a reason to townread tris, but the whole lack of build up of the Platinum Phoenix wagon past L-2; the stalling for most of the day; and, the quick subsequent quick build up of tris makes me hesitant.

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So...I'm not needed?

sad.

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benhalkum has died! he was a [Vanilla Townie]

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Catching up here tomorrow...not a fan of how fake!PP's wagon dissapated on first glance though.

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VOTE: fake!PP

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Because I'm back from a break and engaged now. As I said, I did not like how that wagon dismantled yesterday.

Glad someone realized I exist and asked that tbh.

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People complained about a lack of counterwagon, then the one that was built and pushed through was on town. So - yes, most likely scum on that wagon, but also, fake!PP is probably scum.

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Wait - all what votes happened quickly? Your's was Monday.

There are only three.

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Pretty much a nonevent then

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If it just me or did Penguin's tone and posting frequency change a lot mid d1 when he was getting universally townread? What's the meta people are looking at there?

I mean - I was v/la for awhile so my frequency would change...

This isn't D1 anymore, so I'm not going to meme the whole time anymore.

Anything else you would like to know?

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Why are we analyzing an unflipped wagon as a town flip?

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Yeah - sure, seems like a good time to be bored.

Why is fake!PP town?

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So you don't think fake!PP is town?

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I mean - that's what I'm asking. Why was scum on it early for it to fall apart at EOD onto a town wagon?

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I mean - that's what I'm asking. Why was scum on it early for it to fall apart at EOD onto a town wagon?

That is a good point. I kind of felt like it wasn't getting any traction after a while and they could have switched to Tris to get something through (this would probably point to RCE scum).

Do you think scum was on it early? Seems like you disagree with me. To me, it felt like it grew a bit too quickly for it to be natural.

It grew to quick for it to be natural? When did it get to the danger zone? What happened when it approached EOD?

Yes, I disagree with you. No, I won't feed you answers.

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universally scumread RCE

Who is universally scumreading RCE

scum controls a fair bit of the town right now

Who is scum controlling town?

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If there is a larger % of scum to town...scum win.

Also, keeping a list of who thinks who is scummy is probably not a fruitful endeavor. I think most of you have been scummy, but I still town read some too.

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So - I want you to join the fake!PP wagon but you won't say why the slot is town.

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I would rather him explain fake!PP town directly.

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I feel like that has been directly asked.

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The stall on L-1 is interesting.

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Interesting convo, i think i can cross S_S and Vorkuta as hypothetically being on the same scum team now.

Bit early for that.

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With the game state where we are, it be pretty easy for scum to push this through. So, either they are already on the wagon, or the wagon is on scum and people (like Vork) are trying to shift it elsewhere...which is what happened yesterday.

I think it's the latter.

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Well we can talk about it tomorrow VOTE: platinum

VC was last page but...good job...?

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I mean - you could be...

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Besides Vork trying to push the lynch elsewhere after basically claiming intent...not really.

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Penguin pushed...something smart yesterday.

I did?


Pretty sure I haven't pushed anyone except fake!PP, but feel free to remind me where I did.

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VOTE: Gamma

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UNVOTE:

Consider my vote there.

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Actually talked myself out of it.

Wish I had more than two lynches to look at...

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I'm going to reread once the site stops being slow.

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Yeah - but Gamma started the Tris counterwagon D1. Seems like unnecessary effort for little to no towncred for scum!Gamma.

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S_S was the only other one on it and Gamma joined to try to create a counterwagon. S_S hopped off shortly after which is why Gamma is showing first.

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Explain to me the purpose of the massclaim at this point?

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It's a waste of time, and I don't see the purpose. Explain it to me.

(also, if we're doing it, it's UiT's to popcorn)