dude, noone should join us. not worth pyshing the caffeine clock. were already fine on the lynch vs nk clockIn post 2843, Bingle wrote:I am against a rando infiltrating our hood. I am 100% for a town-by-having-vigged scum player joining us.In post 2834, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:I thought you were against someone infiltrating your masonry.
If we get two people who join us, then it's a 1v1.
Also, there's a decent chance that FL is the vig, in which case he joins us and the scum can't kill him tonight. (I checked with FG when this occurred to me, the joining of our neighborhood would apply before the scumkill.)
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this post feels really weird and fishy. unless i missed something.In post 2864, Kagami wrote:And hilariously, what might have been a really silly mistake by one of us could work out quite well depending on ceph's flip.- Vecna
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this was really stupid to outIn post 2869, Kagami wrote:Me neither.
As you guys probably should have guessed, we're cops of random sanities.
Three of us acted, and thus became caffeinated. Croag neglected to act because she's too cool to submit investigations.
Unfortunately, absolutely none of our investigations so far will ever be useful. Penguin investigated pops for heaven knows what reason, and I investigated Fish, who was killed. Both of those investigation came back Town, so PP and I are naive / insane.
Ceph claims to have investigated Gork and gotten guilty. We don't know if he's telling the truth and it doesn't matter. Ceph and Croag are paranoid/sane.- Vecna
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Wait but wtf?In post 2872, Kagami wrote:I should say, cops of unknown sanity. Like the doc hood, we know there's one of each.
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ugh, catching up after the fact is such a bore. let me have some of that spotlight already.In post 2885, popsofctown wrote:The neighborhood is locked at night, how did Ceph tell you he got guilty unless you have a scum PT with him
The joke is funnier now that I have explained it.
Also just curious is there anything on the planet earth that would influence your scumread of me Bingle?
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I was taking a gamble on what happened with marquis, but I was probably wrong.In post 2948, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:I will repeat:
Chandra claims to have acted (most likely lying)
Kagami claims to have acted
PP claims to have acted
JJD claims to have acted
Vecna claims to be already caffeinated from the start
Marquis was hinted (by Vecna) to have acted
"unknown Vig" may or may nor have acted
That's SEVEN bloody caffeinated slots. The Mod says only 4.
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So im in a position to lol-hammer now, ignore pops request, deny chandra any last words, and just be a general smug asshat?In post 2962, Kagami wrote:k pops, do you want to wait for Croag, or can we just end the day? I want to get back to puzzles.
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they have a hood of 4?In post 2969, popsofctown wrote:
I'm paranoid the codenames game is madeup and Kagami+Chandra slipped in referencing sharing investigation results, because their codenames schema seems really silly in several ways, including assigning you a letter.In post 2964, Bingle wrote:I just typed a hammer post and deleted it. Why do you want a croag post?
You really think the mod was so devious to put three scum in there? and them then havibg the audacity to kill croag of all people?
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Im not arguing that. im arguing that scum would completely give themselves away by shooting croag, if that were the case, and they did some weird made up thing with a list. THAT IN ITSELF would already risk just popping in at anytime and saying lolnope.In post 2979, popsofctown wrote:
Vecna argues with VecnaIn post 2975, Vecna wrote:I really dont get why you think a mod would ever answer that.
Yikes.
Even if all hoods have one scum, why would the mod answer that question?
so clearly a neighborhood can have three scum
and I don't put that past this mod
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In post 2992, popsofctown wrote:I can't find an emoji that reflects my anger with you
you just scum realizing you had to be on that wagon to look goodIn post 2994, Bingle wrote:I wouldn’t have except I figured you would and taking your fun away is the true win condition. Fuck lynching scum, we just gotta ensure Vecna has maximum salt.
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2/4 dont get real results (naive/paranoid)In post 3107, Bingle wrote:
Because you think it's reasonable that 3 cops could get scum results on 1/5 of the reasonable targets for them on N1? If so, why? And that's assuming that the remaining scumteam is in {FL, pops, Vecna, Marquis}, so it's probably even more likely.In post 3104, Croag wrote:I really don’t think the cop hood had two scums in it bingle
the other 2 cant get results on 2 of the hoods.
I dont really see the big issue. Allthough to be fair, I have been working on the wrong assumption they were all 1 shot. No idea why.
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Scum shooting pine (if that was scum) sorta implies they are more afraid of the tracker than of the cops. If Marquis/Bingle was scum, they would just be the ones doing the killing, so the tracker wouldnt be a priority here.
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ugh, i wish you wouldnt do this, because it does make me even more suspiciousIn post 3117, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:Btw, Vecna continues to be a beacon of logic. I don't necessarily agree on his conclusion(s) but he sure does use his brain (you know, that part of his body that's inside his scull)- Vecna
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This slot just went back again to "so town it hurts".In post 3118, Day One Wagon wrote:
Let's see, you conf town for pushing Chandra, right? Why you didn't voted her and parked your vote on ofrhz? Where were you, when I was calling people to go after Chandra? Right, foing your little "Do you want lynch me?" game. Chandra strangely never voted you despite going after our hood and voting me with ofrhz, she was even saying we had 2 scum in our hood.In post 3111, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:As if NOW, I don't mind lynching this out of spite. If it came down to D1L vs an outed scum I am going to vote D1L still.
I told you plain and simple - start acting towny and I will TR you, remember what you told me? That you don't care if I TR you or not, so why so fuss now again?
I'd like quote about that. If you can't provide one, don't get in my way - is it that hard for you to understand that I want to see if either of them tried to influence other's decisionIn post 3112, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:
They both decided on theor own, which is why they ended up checking the same player. Get out of here.In post 3105, Day One Wagon wrote:Have you discussed with PP who to check or you both decided yourself on check targets?
I love how you call Bingle out on "3 cops", yet you completely disregard his claim that someone joined their hood and we just need to wait for result on Marquis claim. On top of that, that someone is either ofrhz or Chenis. Cops wasting check? I'd lynch on the spot them, Pop didn't used FN, FL claims not used his shot, you claim used yours N1 and I sure as hell didn't used mine
If there is scum in unkillable hood, my sights goes for Bingle
P-Edit: I"m scum after sitting on Chandra's ass all game, but you should be cleared for "pushing her" you made my day, JJD
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complete bullshit post. This sounded fucking awkward when you posted it, and chandra also acted super confused.In post 3119, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 857, Flavor Leaf wrote:
VOTE: ChandarIn post 850, Chandra Nalaar wrote:
Hm.In post 842, Perry Pelican wrote:My neighborhood directly influences me so it's my first focus.
I would recommend not letting them influence you very much as a general rule.
I feel i’m getting hatchet gaslit. Stances are making sure I don’t gain momentum.
This is what happens when I’m town.
I’m never scum with Chandar here throughout
If anything id call it a classic svs interaction, and the fact you somehow think this is meant for us to go "oh yeah this is clearly SvT" shows a pretty big disconnect to reality.- Vecna
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Why not the miller hood?In post 3124, Bingle wrote:
I still lean D1L town, but the lynch pool today should 100% be my hood/doc hood.In post 3122, Flavor Leaf wrote:My Chandar paranoia was correct, I think my D1L is too
Of those names, Marquis is off the table 100% unless someone comes into the thread with a guilty on him. I tr Vec and D1L. I want to lynch JJD with all of my hearts. All like 7 of them, but that pool is definitely where we should be lynching today, despite the fact that purely from a balance perspective, one of Croag/PP should be scum.- Vecna
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Youre claiming chandra scumslipped because he didnt have amazing teammates? What were you gonna do, convince chandra to let you proofread his posts before posting them?In post 3157, Flavor Leaf wrote:gamestate dictates jjd and i are the mislynch candidates for scum. Chandra also never gets in the situation they did with one of us as their scum partner.
Chandra was on and off pushing me depending on how i acted towards her.
I feel I was the main mislynch candidate, and when I wasn’t happening, they pivoted over to JJd, so that means there’s likely a strong player, possibly bingle, with an incorrect read thus making it easy for scum.
There are way too many people ‘cleared unless...’ which there’s always that unless. That is the mark of scum interference.
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We as a hood have zero reason to townread pops.In post 3198, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also, Bingle was going hard on Pops yesterday, where’s that now?
If Pops is the one who “got confirmed of Marquis” then Bingle’s playing is all and is why stuff is being kept in the dark.
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Gorkington is capable of stellar play as scum.
So is Chennis, even though his play this game feels miles away from his last game (even though that might be by design since the playerlists are so similair)
I have to be wrong about a townread somewhere, unless the scum is literally in FL/PP/JJD, or the replacement just got queued in what to say really well.- Vecna
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why you keep saying this? marquis shit fish n1 and kagami n2.In post 3362, Flavor Leaf wrote:And Marquis is somehow a multi shot Vigilante? Alright.
There’s scum in either Bingle or Marquis
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this defense really doesnt feel like scum though.In post 3384, PenguinPower wrote:If you only knew my POV...
So stop being an ass. I’ll be back Saturday.
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I did talk about it.In post 3399, Day One Wagon wrote:Also, why no one talking about elephant in the room - Pine's kill over Croag
fearing the tracker over potential sane cop.
meaning the scum is either entirely in my hood, the miller hood, or they know theyre scum cops themselves meaning itll be harder to resolve sanities.
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Hmmm.In post 3402, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:
^^Bingle is forgetting his own reasons. It seems that every layer of lies he adds blocks his memory from remembering what he had said earlier.In post 3398, Day One Wagon wrote:But wasn't Vecna, who convinced Marquis to shoot Fish?
Let me simplify things for the rest: According to Bingle it was Vecna who convinced Marquis to shoot Monger, and it was Marquis who actually did shoot Monger. So WHO is left from that hood?? I can't hear you... LOUDER.
I do have to say, it was the reason that marquis townreads me, because according to him, it was the way I described fishs progression that caused him to shoot fish.
However, bingle citing that as reason is a bit odd, but who knows, he might just be using it as a shortcut.
I still have failed to spot any major red flags in bingles play. The only thing I dont like is how he has started including me as a maybe scum in his reads, almost as if hes already preparing for the future where he might have to lynch me.
I find it hard to judge here if my plays been towny enough to be widely townread just on play. the way i pressured chandra on day1 should speak in my favour though.
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seriously, enough of this bullshit.In post 3458, Flavor Leaf wrote:Like straight up. People just play at a surface level their entire lives and can’t see past :shrug:
this playerlist is good enough to catch way better scumplayers than you.
If youre town, show it by playstyle, not "because youd be so omega-awesome youd never get in this position" as scum.- Vecna
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this thoughIn post 3474, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Oh look, an early comment on ceph’s play. Interesting.In post 15, Gorkington wrote:]VOTE: bingle
lets fucking kick this guys ass
pedit: hmm i think ceph is playing kond of dofferent so far tbh
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I also feel JJD set me up tonlook bad even before I got a chance to scumread him.In post 3478, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Hmm. I may have gotten pocketed subconsciously pretty early.In post 620, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:In post 328, Flavor Leaf wrote:Maybe he has a bad memory.
Interesting! I think this makes FL town? (my LAW supersedes anyone else's reads)In post 329, Flavor Leaf wrote:I don’t remember where i played with him
Which checks out because I’m 3 for 3 with catching scumA50.
I also feel gorkington was too town to be town. the slot was fucking flawless. chenn though....made me doubt that read.
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this is bad though.In post 3481, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 1765, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:
I said OK, dammit! Let someone else speakIn post 1290, Flavor Leaf wrote:He was actively buttering up and appealing to me because he knew I was a Vig and didn’t want to get shot, but he knew by town reading me directly and too hard, I’d get suspicious, so if you look back at our previous back and forth, he also had an off trajectory
(And now you know why FL wasn't playing the game YET, because once he got the mic he assumes its his own property for good)In post 1768, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:
That's not how I see it.In post 1303, Bingle wrote:Why the fuck would we lynch in a 2 vig 1v1? One of them is lying, and the other one shoots them tonight. 90% it's PP lying, but if it isn't does it really matter?
What I see is FL is 100% TOWN here (and NOT lying about his role.. this has to do with how survivalistic FL is as scum).
PP is very likely caught scum, but not 100%. There's a slight chance of mod-fuckery here still.
But I do believe in lynching PP anyway now because I support gun control. (Yes, I do. ONLY JUDGES should have access to any kind of lethal weapon).In post 1778, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:
This is ofrhz knowing PP (the fake one ) is flipping town and is lining up FL for a mislynch.In post 1653, ofrhz wrote:Yeah and I'm challenging the read. It's a read that doesn't take into account that FL is good at scum and just generally projects confidenceUgggh.
Yeah, It’s JJD-Chennis.
scum talking to scum, to get behind it?
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welcome to like, two weeks ago.In post 3486, Flavor Leaf wrote:Spoiler:
You know, a lot of these just scream NAI or slightly townie, but when putting them all together, I’m lock towning this slot. No more ISO necessary for Croag.
I also really liked the 50% Chen scum read they had, which actually makes me feel more comfortable about my ChennScum solve.- Vecna
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I dno, this is again starting to feel desperateIn post 3491, Flavor Leaf wrote:
AWESOME!!!In post 2071, Chandra Nalaar wrote:Really, were going to vca scum into arbitrary piles now? Can we not waste our time on such pointless exercises?
This means my VCA is likely pretty decent.- Vecna
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Just because you use a lot of words to describe a simple concept dont make you some advanced player.In post 3598, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Which proves you are surface level with no accurate measurement of my scum play meaning all your comments on anything related to skill level is irrelevant because you talk whilst uneducated.In post 3589, Vecna wrote:
I dno, this is again starting to feel desperateIn post 3491, Flavor Leaf wrote:
AWESOME!!!In post 2071, Chandra Nalaar wrote:Really, were going to vca scum into arbitrary piles now? Can we not waste our time on such pointless exercises?
This means my VCA is likely pretty decent.
And i have a super chill demeanor with these past few pages. You’re just throwing desperate in to throw the word in, which is again, surface level of you.
saying you wouldnt do somethibg as scum, simply means you would do it while applaying 3rd or 5th level wifom.
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Also, talking about surface level play, and then making these posts as a foundation for something is just hilarious.In post 3593, Flavor Leaf wrote:
This has already been discussed. It doesn’t matter.In post 3574, Day One Wagon wrote:PP claims to act N2, not N1, I don't see problem there. He never claimed to act N1, he simply didn't denied assumption that he acted N1 and it's smart, scum wouldn't consider him as a target, if they think he already used his ability
Have you played with town A50? I'm really curious why you so hung up on fact that he isn't lying about acting N1. I've seen him flipping his claim as town in the past, so I take that as a NAI
Also I see you finally noticed that there was 0 people caffeinated at the start
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So you think FL would really waste a vig shot to get in on our secrets?In post 3605, Bingle wrote:
I didn't. Technically, I still don't. I trust FL's claim, he didn't set it up the way he does gambit claims (as I mentioned). I trust Marquis's claim there's no way he risks the cc for no reason when he's already this far behind. I trust the dead townie. I trust that the doc hood isn't collectively lying about the mod confirmation that there's a CPR doc.In post 3562, Day One Wagon wrote:I was just curious how Bingle knew there was 3 vigs D2 and made some theory
Dead vig + fish kill + CPR doc who didn't act is 3 vigs.
Dead vig + FL claim + CPR doc killed fish is 3 vigs.
With my D2 knowledge, it was basically assured there were 3 vigs.
With my current knowledge, it's pretty likely there's 4 vigs.- Vecna
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Pretty sure this very situation almost rules out FL and bingle from being scum together. It wouldve been game over with the information they would posses.
Marquis suddenly stated at the end of night he had been lying yet again. He before claimed compulsive N1/2/3 vig, now he stated it was only 2 shots.
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