Mini 2090 CYS: AtmosFEAR of Terrors

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh no

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: kuribo
Let's open Pandora's box why don't we

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyone who doesn't vote {Ali, Katsuki, kuribo, Pine} is scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyone who doesn't vote {Ali, Katsuki, kuribo, Pine} is scum

I think that this is really black and white and is kinda just not true?

It's not serious but I just want early wagoning

[Gamma Emerald]

While joke voting kuribo is great
If you think he is scum you should wait
He always picks town
He's not a clown
This post restriction makes me hate

If I have kuribo pegged right
Voting him may rouse him right
To kick start this game
I'm wanting some flame
And kuribo should cause it to light

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum was actually my third pick this game.

Shake things up a bit.

Impossible

[Gamma Emerald]

It doesn't really matter what you pick if the rand screws you though

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: implosion

I think I agree with this vote
VOTE: implosion

[Gamma Emerald]

That was scary as hell.

[Gamma Emerald]

Dude, you're acting like I showed up with a fake nose and mustache, danced a jig, and sang, "Nothing to see here, folks!"

I was effectively

asked.

The scum PT clearly said to each other in N0, "Hey guys, Pine ML first?" "Yeah, easy mode."

Not saying that everyone jumping on me is scum, clearly not...but there's definitely a low-hanging fruit motive to this push.

The only real problem here is the premise you're lhf, that's not the impression I think any has of you by default

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh Katsuki you're quite serious compared to last time I played with you

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh Katsuki you're quite serious compared to last time I played with you

When have I played with you before? I have no recollection of you. I assume it was some shitfest of a game though.

I would imagine that there's a difference in playstyle when I'm playing a game with scrubs, and playing in an actual game of mafia.

You repped out if Heroes Wanted but we played there

[Gamma Emerald]

implosion’s brief foray into setup spec, which I want to say is mildly Townish

Why

[Gamma Emerald]

katsuki announcing he needs a purple key?

She did this?

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh Katsuki you're quite serious compared to last time I played with you

When have I played with you before? I have no recollection of you. I assume it was some shitfest of a game though.

I would imagine that there's a difference in playstyle when I'm playing a game with scrubs, and playing in an actual game of mafia.

You repped out if Heroes Wanted but we played there

Was that the game where I posted nothing but youtube videos in protest because you guys spammed a few hundred pages in a few game days?

Yes

[Gamma Emerald]

Are you Katsuki

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually, I remember that game fondly. I got irritated of pulling teeth so instead I claimed someone inflicted a post restriction upon me where I had to post youtube videos in every post. Muffinman followed up by stating he totally believed that to have occurred. We also spammed like two pages with our game of hangman with the message of always policy lynch mathblade. Oh, I also fake-claimed a couple cop guilties on scum until I couldn't be arsed to defend myself when the town thought I was scum who was apparently claiming cop guilties to bus my buddies because it is totally optimal scumplay to post nothing but youtube videos while powerbussing your entire scumteam when it was simply a case of where people couldn't just shut up and sheep me when my reads were by far more accurate than everyone else's despite not reading the game. Fun times.

Can't say I recall anything that happened in that game other than the above but shitposting with muffins is always fun. Well, until the point where you realize that you signed up for a game of mafia, not some shitty spampost marathon.

Who did you suspect that game, again

[Gamma Emerald]

Then what was the list of people if not a readlist, sounds like having your cake and eating it too.

I collected together everyone who was voting, took a look at them individually, collectively, and decided mid-post that it was too early to have any kind of real opinion about most of them. Ali and sky didn't give real reasons iirc, Grey and Kats were specifically meta reasons, and Plum was opportunistic. Only the last of those is at all AI, so I decided not to do the full thing.

This isn't weird, and I feel I've thoroughly explained myself.

(

Merci, Madame!

? I don't know if I count, some dickhole slipped me the Black Key.)

How did someone slip you a key

[Gamma Emerald]

Nooooo there's a rule against that too

[Gamma Emerald]

Sorry for brevity, wanted to move quickly.

The black key can be passed by bracketing someone else’s posts with your own. I didn’t see the point of sharing this method or inflicting it on anyone, but it didn’t occur to me that people would think I’d invented it completely.

Skygazer should be able to verify my account of the black key as soon as LLD gets around to PMing her.

Why would you pass back to pine

[Gamma Emerald]

Scumhunting zero?

What

[Gamma Emerald]

Scumhunting zero?

What

I’m being accused of doing no scumhunting, despite the fact that it’s practically impossible to do when two-thirds of the playerlist hasn’t done anything except say how omg scummy Pine is.

I’m going to be honest, I’m a little upset with this game.

Why did you say "scumhunting zero" though? Looks like you mixed words

[Gamma Emerald]

Kuribo, take a look at Plum. So far she’s the only one really pinging my scumdar

What about the other people on your scumlist

[Gamma Emerald]

The lurkaderp rule, which is as close to ironclad as any tactic I've ever put forth is that there's always at least one scum in the bottom three or four posters. The corollary is that there's usually another scum in the top three or four.

I've worked on that thought over a number of years, most scum teams have a workhorse.

I agree with this sentiment, this is the template for most games

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: GreyICE
What the hell is your deal

[Gamma Emerald]

Like how is your reaction to me and kuribo discussing scum posting frequencies "OMG DONT PICK SCUM ITS SIMPLE!!!111"

[Gamma Emerald]

B) His alleged post restriction is incompatible with the real inflicted one we’ve seen given out

How
Also don't get A but that's probably me being ignorant

[Gamma Emerald]

Like how is your reaction to me and kuribo discussing scum posting frequencies "OMG DONT PICK SCUM ITS SIMPLE!!!111"

Do you think a player in CYS
Wanting to do their very best
Then picks scum
For the freedom
To post nothing at all as a jest?

So you are saying because of the CYS mechanic scum would lurk less?

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh and D) It doesn’t make sense from a setup perspective to have all of these events, curses, and added shenanigans, but also have one player hobbled the whole game. You’d just use the limerick PR as an event/curse etc

... so what do you make of GreyICE faking this?

It's incredibly clear what Pine makes of it?
VOTE: Plum

[Gamma Emerald]

The lurkaderp rule, which is as close to ironclad as any tactic I've ever put forth is that there's always at least one scum in the bottom three or four posters. The corollary is that there's usually another scum in the top three or four.

I've worked on that thought over a number of years, most scum teams have a workhorse.

I agree with this sentiment, this is the template for most games

Are you two scumfucks insane
Perhaps you are missing a brain?
Lurk from demotivation
In a CYS formation
Don't pick scum! Problem solved, no shame

I didn't say they're lurking from demotivation, some people more passively play scum or let more experienced partners take the point. And I forgot it was CYS.

Calm yoself the fuck down
Make a smile out of your frown
Post restrictions suck
I get that you're stuck
Something something verb noun

I'm bad at limericks

This actually mentions something I already wanted to say, that even if they are gonna lurk less it's still likely that there's going to be one dominant scum and the others would step back

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh and D) It doesn’t make sense from a setup perspective to have all of these events, curses, and added shenanigans, but also have one player hobbled the whole game. You’d just use the limerick PR as an event/curse etc

... so what do you make of GreyICE faking this?

I think...I dunno. It's probably NAI? Gimmick-y gameplay happens as any alignment. When Aeronaut and I made Caesar Wills It before Civ mafia, we decided to do it before roles and alignments were randed.

Strictly speaking, I think it means Grey decided to dick around, no more, no less. Functionally, it makes him almost impossible to fairly read, and makes questioning or refuting him frustratingly difficult.

I thought you thought it was scummy?

[Gamma Emerald]

WE NEED TO LYNCH PINE WITH THE BLACK KEY AND NOT GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO PASS IT OFF TO ANY ONE

RULES SAY KEYS GET WILLED AWAY ON DEATH, UNLESS THE BLACK KEY WORKS DIFFERENTLY
See, I can get loud too.

[Gamma Emerald]

hello there, i am in a strong state of Kind of Having Gotten Any Sleep

I'm glad to say that I am the same way

[Gamma Emerald]

O_rly

[Gamma Emerald]

The scum only needs one key to win.

A badly placed TR could end the game for us.

True but that is one specific key

[Gamma Emerald]

The lyncher is the third party, Maria. Kats claimed it.

I MEAN
IN CASE ANYONE STILL HAS ANY DOUBTS
WHAT KIND OF TOWN PLAYER TRIES TO PAINT THEIR WAGON AS 3P LYNCHER DRIVEN

I've done it but only in chat mafia

[Gamma Emerald]

YA BUT PINES ACTUALLY A COMPETENT MAFIA PLAYER

Excuse me

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Pine
Hooray now I'm a mafia expert!

[Gamma Emerald]

Fyi I initially voted Pine out of spite but his lyncher case is awful

[Gamma Emerald]

Key Vote

58

Not Voting (12)- GreyICE, Hebichan, Katsuki, Temporal Lich, Gamma Emerald, Plum, Kuribo, NK15, Implosion, MariaR, Skygazer, Alisae

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to Win a Key

The Green Key has appeared from the ether, as if drawn to the horrible act of putting one of your own into that damned Black Hole. You may vote for a player to obtain this key. If at time code 48 no one has a majority, plurality will suffice. If there is a tie, both tied players will be removed, and the next highest vote getter will receive a key. E.G
Lexi-5
Pine-5
GreyICE- 2

GreyICE would receive the key. Ties all the way down will result in a random roll.

Merci, Madame![

/b]

[Gamma Emerald]

Merci, Madame!

Trying that again

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't think pine knew they were hammered but idk

[Gamma Emerald]

K

[Gamma Emerald]

Interesting
Fyi I don't need the yellow key but it empowers me in a way

[Gamma Emerald]

Probably one of the worst isos in the game, he has been terrible under pressure.

I think I agree with this

[Gamma Emerald]

We can't do that for like 10 time units

[Gamma Emerald]

Even that is a bit fishy given literally no one has shaded GE all game.

Honestly I'm interested in this myself

[Gamma Emerald]

Merci, Madame!

I have been loosely following, I understand a few things that are going on

[Gamma Emerald]

Whoever comes back - if it isn't me - needs to be removed again.

I'm sorry?

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey GE, anything juicy in the Black Hole thread?

Not really, just circlejerking about resurrection and alignments of the dead I think.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also for a situation where I wasn't posting I think I followed better than normal.

[Gamma Emerald]

Pine town or scum, doubt 3P or he'd probably have absolutely flipped his shit on death. He did talk about sorting Katsuki. Maybe we should listen to him a little.
Implosion and TL added nothing
NK15 probably the most dedicated person of the dead, very likely town even outside of being nightkilled.

[Gamma Emerald]

We could try. I believe I said the Yellow key allows me to do something?

[Gamma Emerald]

Idk, but as I said, minimal engagement from them once dead.

[Gamma Emerald]

anyways, im sure everyone out there will be *pleased* to know that i have the power to resurrect a ghost. why? i'm not sure.

bring back: Pine !!!

You should have put this up for discussion yo
I have a doc type ability and an ability that helps at the well

[Gamma Emerald]

V/LA from Saturday August 31 to Monday September 2

Realized I should actually post this announcement sooner rather than later, might be dealing with a hurricane in my area soon.

[Gamma Emerald]

Fyi if Pine does get rezzed let him play okay?

[Gamma Emerald]

Because his bullying of you was actually possibly the best thing he posted
I think it's possible he just got railroaded by his meta here, which gave him no chance to actually post something AI.

[Gamma Emerald]

I forgot about that, hmm. I think I'm glad I'm not really alive and as such don't have to sort like you guys.

[Gamma Emerald]

Are you fucking kidding me

no one gave two shits about his meta

Everything he posted was scummy af
he was scummy
i scumhunted him
he claimed scum to me
i put him in the grave
simple as

Unless you somehow think it's townie to claim the person pushing ROPE is a lyncher in which case
I refer you to Dr. Kuribo.

you claimed lyncher, you twat

I mean this is true
But that's not a good defense, I've played plenty of Pokémon Showdown Greater Idea and that is something I learned there.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay. Kinda boring so far.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok then

[Gamma Emerald]

look if ur town
you vote NK15 or GE
we take this time to decide

This
I need to parse out the event rules real quick though
And just in case

Merci, Madame!

[Gamma Emerald]

game vote mariar

actually idc

game vote: me

Why tho

[Gamma Emerald]

So vote for me and I'll banish Maria

[Gamma Emerald]

That's not a guarantee, but doing that kills you as well as it stands

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m mobile I unvoted because of hood. I’ll say more later today when not mobile

Who is/was in this hood Maria spoke of

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah reading Maria I'm concerned she hasn't interacted with ghost!me more

[Gamma Emerald]

@LLD will the ghost vote be publicly revealed at the end?

[Gamma Emerald]

I still want to give Pine a chance. I know he did the "I'm being pushed by a lyncher" thing but he was also turbolynched and Katsuki actually claimed lynches so *leshrug*

[Gamma Emerald]

I have the ability to make someone death proof for 12 time frames, I currently intend to use it on myself to avoid being killed really quickly, but I'm not above using it to force my will on the game

[Gamma Emerald]

implosion has already imploded me though...

whether the key cop is a scummy claim or not won't unkill me.

What's this about a key cop

[Gamma Emerald]

I have the same thing

[Gamma Emerald]

That means one of (TL, Imp, GI) is likely scum

[Gamma Emerald]

I believe mine works on any key but doesn't steal it. Looks like Implo is caught with his pants down.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I had it right

[Gamma Emerald]

I'll allow him to speak in his defense but rn he's getting banished

[Gamma Emerald]

I believe mine works on any key but doesn't steal it. Looks like Implo is caught with his pants down.

to be clear: my key investigation doesn't specifically say anything about it having to be a key i had, and i never asked because the key i wanted to investigate was the one i had.

feel free to banish me, my being alive isn't going to help because so many people find me scummy

come up with a better reason than greyice lying about my claim though

Which key did you check? What was the result?

[Gamma Emerald]

i claimed my result privately to hebichan and plum before i was banished; they're welcome to share it here but i'm not going to

Ok
So now I'm kinda stuck, because GI's claim is the odd one out but a) I don't really suspect him and b) I wouldn't be able to banish him anyway

[Gamma Emerald]

okay yeah town isnt winning this !!

Is this a threat?

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't even know if we become not-ghosts after I banish someone, did I miss that in one of LLD's posts?

[Gamma Emerald]

GI is a good candidate for scum

Why

[Gamma Emerald]

hilariously my solve has GI/Kats/Ali for a bit now

My gut says to trust this tbh
In a recent game a 3p actually figured the whole game out by D2 so I think it's possible sky did it too

[Gamma Emerald]

Problem is iirc none of those are ghosties
Sky pls give reasons to keep each of Pine, TL, and Implo alive

[Gamma Emerald]

Wow okay

[Gamma Emerald]

GE were you familar with how he died?
ngl
it was super town

You're aware I'm only killing one person here right? And have I stated NK15 was on my list? No, not at all. I saw how he died, while I'm not sure what makes it town confirming I don't see anything that makes the read objectionable.

[Gamma Emerald]

He tried to use the mechanic to reveal his alignment and got banished for using it on game-relevant information. Not for “deliberately disobeying orders” or something like that.

Oof, yeah that makes sense.

[Gamma Emerald]

Now could you explain how my killing 1 of (Pine, TL, Implo) has anything to do with NK15?

[Gamma Emerald]

If Skygazer is a ghost I'm banishing her. I just don't want her around because I feel like she'd be confusing.

[Gamma Emerald]

What? Why would you need permission

[Gamma Emerald]

Your alignment doesn't change when you die

[Gamma Emerald]

Unless you're one of two roles

[Gamma Emerald]

But like, you're saying something that makes no sense to me. Do you mean you need permission to be, like, in the town?

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay then say that

[Gamma Emerald]

WOW OKAY

[Gamma Emerald]

Banish Skygazer

[Gamma Emerald]

...okay

[Gamma Emerald]

YEET

[Gamma Emerald]

revelation of the goddamn millennium there!

[Gamma Emerald]

Nope, Sky is gonna double-die first

[Gamma Emerald]

How many non black keys are in play rn

[Gamma Emerald]

How do I have the back key, I'm not alive yet
Also Sky, don't do that again.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh what
I thought Sky was town in the flip
It's small brain time

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma could be third party, or scum who banished himself.

Why the fuck would I do that

[Gamma Emerald]

If you're positing theories that you yourself don't believe are likely, you're just shading GE for no town reason

This, and it's scummy too because it's trying to plant random doubt. Town deal in probability, scum deal in possibility.

[Gamma Emerald]

Time is an illusion

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm so sorry GreyICE but I'm not having this in my possession while there's a chance I might die for good with it.

[Gamma Emerald]

I wonder if it counts across pages

[Gamma Emerald]

Now for Lexi to flip everyone I guess

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay can someone tell me what keys are NOT in play yet

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay so for some reason Purple is Blue lol
So now we need to get Blue into the game and then we can try to go to the well
Plum which key did you get that Implosion checked, and what was the result?

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey grey you had the black key and just passed it to me by trapping my posts right

Apparently LLD didn't count mine because it crossed pages?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I'm a Chimera and have abilities of multiple creatures, Lionheart which let's me protect another player from any death for 12 time units, Snake's Wisdom which let's me check any key in play to see if it's real or not, and Goat's Hide which makes me a Hated Doublevoter. I also have a Mutation ability, which I can use on someone else if I have the Yellow Key, and I have no idea what it does.

[Gamma Emerald]

HAHAHAHA I DONT HAVE A KEY YOU CANT PASS IT ON TO ME GET REKTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Don't I have the black and purple tho

[Gamma Emerald]

It's okay my secret ability is to simply send my black key to someone once it's back in my possession

Also this is bullshit

[Gamma Emerald]

Has Grey claimed if not, he goes next

[Gamma Emerald]

He can choose otherwise

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm super glad you're engaged with the game and paying attention.

I pick Alisae, mostly because if I wait for Hebi to post hell will literally freeze over, she's back to 4 days inactive.

OP doesn't have flips posted so I'm kinda flying blind as to who's in the game which would help me decide

[Gamma Emerald]

Well you're not even trying.

[Gamma Emerald]

I kinda think that's everyone
Also Kuribo what made you choose your specific cultists

[Gamma Emerald]

Wow kuribo woke af

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I guess I'm not nk bait

[Gamma Emerald]

Bork bork

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: mariar

if the game doesn't end, GreyICE you could swap your key with Gamma's since he needed the yellow key to do a thing and maybe knowing what that thing did would be cool?
idunno up to u
but I am def voting maria

I don't really intend to use my ability
But yeah I can check Maria's key

[Gamma Emerald]

Kinda seems pointless to play musical keys
Also why is Maria scum again?

[Gamma Emerald]

Waiting for key results btw

[Gamma Emerald]

Uhhh when he's claimed 3P?

@LLD if only third party and town are present at the Well is town's win condition met?

[Gamma Emerald]

Hebi has the black key

[Gamma Emerald]

>:[

[Gamma Emerald]

LLD please mod your game

[Gamma Emerald]

The red key is fake so we don't ned to lynch MariaR just yet

Open the well

[Gamma Emerald]

VLA For like 2 weeks, just got a concussion yesterday and need to do a brain break which includes reduced screentime

[Gamma Emerald]

Gray please open the well

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm...

[Gamma Emerald]

Iirc that changes at the Well

[Gamma Emerald]

Event!

11

Welcome to the Well of Fears boys and ghouls.

It's time for this game to ramp up. In this realm, a key is a vote. All of you currently have one vote.

Here is how this will work. You have one enemy in the well, so you have one LYNCH in the well. If at any time you feel your key would be better served in the hands of another player, you may SACRIFICE yourself and die, and will your key to that player. That player will now have one more vote.

BEWARE.

Willing your key to a scum player WILL end the game instantly.

A reminder, that if Town eliminates this one non-town entity from their midst, they will be victorious.

If scum holds the correct key, they will be victorious.

If Time hits 0... well, we'll have fun~

See you on the other side, kiddies~.

Merci, Madame

[Gamma Emerald]

Just in case

[Gamma Emerald]

So that makes Plum confscum??? If I read right

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh nvm

[Gamma Emerald]

Hebi is the yellow key the real one?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yellow was the one implo checked right

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyone else got any ideas on finding scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm kinda lost rn

[Gamma Emerald]

See I was thinking A TL iso could help
Not really in my case

[Gamma Emerald]

Hebi still has the black key right

[Gamma Emerald]

Honestly I could see Plum as scum
Like my thinking is it would be ultra fucky if the blue key were the true key
But like, making it so scum 100% get a key and town have to play around that
That kinda seems like a thing that would happen
Not sold yet but it's a thought
Also I'm less inclined to vote Hebi because she still can't win aorn
PEdit: I want you to see my meta with TL and tell me if I trust to him to win anything for me

[Gamma Emerald]

I used my key cop on the Red Key around TU22, finally got my result on TU18. Haven't used my deathblocker yet, my double voter hated is a passive, and idk what my secret ability does

I don't exactly see the point of this, but popcorn to GreyICE

[Gamma Emerald]

Ugh I cannot do this but I must

[Gamma Emerald]

Chemist1422 replaces GreyICE.

One TU has been added to accomodate.

6 TU remain.

Merci, Madame!

VOTE: Chemist1422

I don't like his silence

[Gamma Emerald]

Do the hoods not exist now
Lolwut

[Gamma Emerald]

Can you still see them?

[Gamma Emerald]

Interesting that life status dictates visibility
Could you ask LLD to open the others to you alone? Also what has Plum posted in his?

[Gamma Emerald]

I meant could you still see what the others said
Please relay what you can

[Gamma Emerald]

What why

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh no way!
Hebi do you still have the Black Key?

[Gamma Emerald]

Give it to Chemist instead if you still can

[Gamma Emerald]

GI blinked first. Hell yes.

Ugh I cannot do this but I must

Oh hey, gamma posted.

Should we wait for GI's replacement?

This should of handed it to you.

Well great

[Gamma Emerald]

Sucker

[Gamma Emerald]

Heh

[Gamma Emerald]

I really have no idea who is scum rn

[Gamma Emerald]

I had pretty much given up on winning since the game had 0 real active direction and even if it did I doubt anyone but me became the lynch (was town)
So in a final act of trolling I stuck the Black Key on Chemist to thwart kuribo's master plan

[Gamma Emerald]

The game was pretty good, just the pacing got destroyed at the end