Mini 2090 CYS: AtmosFEAR of Terrors

[kuribo]

if you lynch me then i won't get to townside!

You could kuriboside and sacrifice yourself with the black key

I'm kinda running outta options here

[kuribo]

Shhhhh it's more fun when people take katsuki seriously

[kuribo]

There isn't much info and town seems to have already lost majority... or will be shortly...

What makes you say that?

He's counting how many people are in his scum PT

[kuribo]

There isn't much info and town seems to have already lost majority... or will be shortly...

What makes you say that?

He's counting how many people are in his scum PT

No, I am simply counting the number of third party claims and adding 2 to it, the minimum of mafia members.

I know reading isn't your strong suit but what you were being asked is how you can know that all of the dead are town.

[kuribo]

So your solution to "scum probably outnumbers town" is to banish a third party and increase the scum to town ratio

[kuribo]

I'm so glad I'm not town, I'd be shitting my pants with rage at your incessant lack of fucked up bizarre moon logic

[kuribo]

EBWOP: use of moon logic

[kuribo]

Are you not assuming that after my banishment scum wont kill a town?

[kuribo]

That's a fair point, okay banish away if you think you have the support and the balls

[kuribo]

I haven't been lynched in over three years


It'll take more than asking politely

[kuribo]

You'd think that, wouldn't you?

[kuribo]

I didn't ask you not to


I said it won't be easy

There's a significant difference

[kuribo]

At the very least it'll take more than just asking

[kuribo]

I mean you don't NEED to but with that attitude is it any wonder I don't NEED to help the town catch scum?

[kuribo]

"Ooooh kuribos useless ohhh he's not doing anything"

At least lynch me and stop whining about it


Then your activity superstars like Not Known and Maria can go to endgame while scum picks off GreyICE and implosion and anyone else who's bothering to post


Oh shit I said Maria's name, time for that scumhead to come in and pretend she's even playing

[kuribo]

Then your activity superstars like Not Known and Maria can go to endgame while scum picks off GreyICE and implosion and anyone else who's bothering to post

Do you think implosion is planning to submit a kill on himself

shit good point

[kuribo]

I once won a game because town gifted me a vig shot and I used it to kill my own scumbuddy Albert B. Rampage

[kuribo]

I was in that game wasn't I...

Yes you figured out I was scum so I screamed at you a bunch and accused you of not reading the game until you lost alll motivation and got lynched for it while I coasted to endgame

[kuribo]

I was in that game wasn't I...

Yes you figured out I was scum so I screamed at you a bunch and accused you of not reading the game until you lost alll motivation and got lynched for it while I coasted to endgame

Damn apparently I play 3rd Party the same way I play scum

I mean other than pretending to help town when I'm scum

Okay y'all get me to L-1 and I'll tell the rest of what I know about the black key and self hammer


I think I'm owed that if you're gonna let NK15 hang my severed head over his fireplace

[kuribo]

Geez and I thought my role sounded anti town

[kuribo]

Kuribo! You picked Kats, me, and Skygazer. Unless Impy is the secret 4th horseman, you might as well vote for him since lnyching any non-horseman is playing to your win condition. What do you say?

I'm good with lynching implosion or anyone else.


And the second they get to L-1 I'm going to hammer. This is the town's and scum's punishment for its insolence toward me. No reads, no cooperation, no claiming the fourth horseman or claiming the last of my abilities. I'll be god damned if two useless ass lurkaderps like Not Reading 15 and MariaIdle are gonna call me scum after I called out they bullshit play, and double damned if I owe the town anything after watching them push bullshit on me about a claim that wasn't even made under duress. It's like they don't even FUCKING UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE FAKE CLAIM IN THE FIRST PLACE. Do you fucking KNOW who fakeclaims? People who wanna save their fucking skins, dude, not people who aren't afraid of their lurkaderp asses and aren't under any pressure whatsoever!

It's a fucking LIFE lesson man, a matter of Fucking principle. Look at the people pushing against the thirds, you ever play with pirate mollie? She works with thirds to hunt scum and you know what I always thought that shit was stupid as fuck but now that I'm not the scum being hunted, I totally see the merit.

You know who has the most Fucking objection to leashing thirds? Least of all a third who can't even win until the end of the game? FUCKING SCUM

And day in and day out I see fuck like Alisae going lmao you can ignore him or NK and Maria popping in to prop up garbage theories that dont make sense. And I do t say a fucking word because half the people in this game are mooooooore than happy to watch me do the legwork on some shit I don't even need to do. Like they want me to carry them, the godless fucks. WELL GUESS WHAT I ain't Fucking town this game and I don't owe disrespectful scumfucks a god damn thing in the world.

They want my reads, they want my full claim they can ask Fucking nicely and play mafia instead of soft throwing shade. Until then? HAMMER TIME, every fucker in this thread is Hated and requires one less vote to lynch because I fucking said so.

[kuribo]

I'm fine with leashing skygazer, I just don't see why we should want you alive kuribo. This isn't a kill based game, the game ends in a town win when town holds the 6 non sucky keys.

Your wincon needs us to lose and also not lynch people who might be scum. Your role isn't leashable.

here's the deal: i'm town w some investigative shots, i played dumb at first because i figured the scum in this lobby wouldn't kill a player w a 2018 join date that was playing dumb; when you called me out for that i claimed a pretty benign third party to buy myself some more time. i have a clear on mariar that i hinted at, and i'm awaiting results on implosion (i sent in the action yesterday and i'm assuming it's too late to cancel). the latter part is why i don't want to see implo quicklynched just yet

why am i outting this now? i've used up my two shots, maria and implo are both likely to be wagoned right now, i've gained a 1-shot bp from ??? so i'm not in immediate danger of being shot and i need to not pretend to be third party anymore if i want to get the blue key and unlock some more powers

Claim changing is always punishable by death


Who do you think you are? Me?

[kuribo]

Lmao so Sky claims to be a town cop who didn't even think to investigate a claimed third party?

[kuribo]

NK15! I want a scum lynch today. Fuck poking useless 3rd party dips, all that will happen is a townie will die and we'll have the same shit tomorrow. We can always throw the third parties into the fires later. Come, join us.

Kuribo IS scum. Third party, but still scum - anti town. And if they fakeclaimed then they are still not town.

That's not how this works because I have no partners to outnumber you


Funny how you don't care about Sky fakeclaiming

[kuribo]

Town has no reason to lie, least of all by claiming third party tho

Changing your claim to town after people start wagoning third parties is scummy as fuck

[kuribo]

kuribo: why would i ever investigate you? your claim was so anti-town that you're never really ever making it inside the well so i don't really have to worry about you

Your claimchange isn't some bastion of towniness

Hell im not even town and I've been more honest with them than you

[kuribo]

speaking of that kuribo why are you shading me so hard if you've stated you want the four horsemen around for a while?

Because I don't like being lied to

You claiming to get a BP shot as a claimed third party is bullshit

You claiming to get a BP shot as an excuse when scum don't merk you is double bullshit


You can't bullshit a bullshitter

[kuribo]

I don't get a vest to send anyone, only thing I send people is the black fucking key

[kuribo]

And unless you're willing to sacrifice for me at endgame, you're useless to me regardless of your role

[kuribo]

Do you have a take on Katsuki?
I have no idea what to do with that slot
I have no idea how to read him
And I would like someone who maybe has an idea of how to read him to tell me how I should play around him because I don't think he's doing anything since we lynched pine and I think he definitely takes scum and I feel like it would be better to lynch him because I have no idea how to play around it

I've played more games with Katsuki than with anyone else except maybe DGB.

We've been against each other, and with each other, as every possible combination of alignment.

We've stood beside one another, in the years before MafiaScum, and battled common enemies in faraway galaxies.

I know Katsuki's game like the back of my hand, and since I'm third party, you can believe me when I say this because I don't need to mislynch him:

This is by faaaaaaaaaaaar Katsuki's town game.

[kuribo]

working under the assumptions that maria and implo are both town

that's a hell of an assumption to make

[kuribo]

if i was scum that needed to get into the well of fears to win i would never claim third party here

you can't really make that argument when you've changed your claim though

[kuribo]

if i was scum that needed to get into the well of fears to win i would never claim third party here

you can't really make that argument when you've changed your claim though

look at the situation im in right now tho

why would i ever do this to myself as scum? in what world would any potential teammates out of everyone in this game be like "ok yeah go ahead, you can do that, sounds like a solid scum play." there's absolutely no sane reason i'd do that unless i simply wanted to survive and avoid the night kill.

why would you have claimed third party as town, there's absolutely no sane reason to have done so


we can go round and round and round like this until our eyes crust over and we blindly stare into the abyss of endless time

[kuribo]

lots of cops hold on to investigations without claiming third party day after day

[kuribo]

No.
Scum+third party either outnumbers town and town has practically lost...
or town still outnumbers everyone else and we get rid of potentially dangerous third parties like you. Who also could be scum, but are NOT town, and that means the town to not town ratio won't decrease.

hmmmm NK15 + Sky as scumbuddies makes sense if you remember NK15 wanting to "lynch third parties" and then "but not Skygazer"

[kuribo]

okay I've not played with Pine before so I thought he was being deathtunneled.

If he's indeed a scum picker... then yeah that's a good reason to banish him. Pine already was being scummy but the deathtunnel was off-putting.

My chips are on town!Pine

Caught. There is no way this is town.

hmmmmm NK15 you seemed pretty sure TL was scum... but then you later said:

Here's the probem.

THREE claimed non-town.
At least TWO scum(otherwise it wouldn't be a scumteam)

means FIVE antitown.
At least one person needs to be banished.(and one will by scum)
The game is supposed to be reasonably balanced.
In post 890, kuribo wrote:
And don't let anything happen to skygazer while we're at it

Two of these horsemen are not town; and have strangely related wincons.

We can only hope that TL or Pine were scum, or Gamma third party.

Because the two others are very likely the scumteam.

Which means->
VOTE: GreyICE

So.... you think you helped lynch scum... but you still think town is outnumbered? Or at least "will be soon?"

Based on the things Pine said after being hammered they are probably third party.

But wait, you don't seem to think Pine was town either.

This is what we call "cognitive dissonance." You need to pretend that you're making righteous lynches, especially in no-reveal, to hide your numbers. But you done fucked up, because you gotta keep it CONSISTENT. So you've spent the last several dozen pages falling back on LeTs lYnCh ThIrD pArTiEs

[kuribo]

So scum skygazer claimed to try and save town implosion?

Hah, no, that didn't happen. If Sky is scum, guess who the buddy is.

Sky + NK15 + implosion

EZ PZ

[kuribo]

I wanna know how the hell NK15 goes from "We're lynching obvscum" and "we lynched a third party" to "THERE'S A TON OF SCUM AND THIRD PARTIES LEFT"

[kuribo]

Considering Katsuki has faked a guilty before I don't know if I fully believe the fact he has a guilty.
If anything I wanna talk to Ali more about Implo than anything else.

How do you know if it was fake in flipless?

[kuribo]

Nevermind I thought Kats had claimed a guilty to Pine but he had claimed lyncher on pine
Again, though, in flipless, Maria should have no way of knowing if Katsuki is lying or not unless she already knows implosion's alignment

[kuribo]

is that L-1?

I wasn't keeping track

[kuribo]

Implosion, on behalf of both town and scum in AtmosFEAR, I hereby sentence you to sudden, instant, and even immediate DEATH. Further, I will hereby remove you from the sight of god and so ensure that your eternal soul shall be torn asunder and cast into darkest limbo.

nema! livee, morf su revilled tub nushyaitpmet ootni ton suh deel su tsnaiga sapsert tath yeth vigrawf eu za sesapsert rewau suh vigrawf derb ilaid rua yed sith suh vig neveh ni si za thre ni nud eeb liw eyth muck mudgnik eyth main eyth eeb dwohlah neveh ni tra chioo rethoff rewau! In nomine Satanas, ad angelum perspiciunt lapsum, versus Christo.

Vote: Implosion

[kuribo]

Literally driving back from beach.

i'm jealous i've only been to the beach once this week

[kuribo]

How liberating does it feel to not care about who you're killing, only blood?

it's pretty great, i've had a shitty week because they keep admitting dementia patients onto my rehab unit and last night a nurse actually told me to shut up in front of a patient

[kuribo]

as DGB once said

"Gotta give the cheap seats their money's worth."

You join a kuribo game, you expect the pageantry. Gotta keep the gimmick alive.

[kuribo]

ugh jeez i'm slipping in my old age

I forgot to do the catch phrase!

*ahem*

AND WHEN YOU GET TO HELL, TELL THEM KURIBO SENT YOU

[kuribo]

Merci, Madame!

Get rid of Kuribo. They are anti-town.

Says the rotting corpse.

Least I'm smart enough to get myself killed trying to be cute with moderator instructions lmao self rekt


And I never claimed to be town, so again, congrats on being useless

[kuribo]

EBWP: to not get myself killed.


Dammit I had a whole thing ready for that

[kuribo]

I dunno, I thought that we could bring back NK15 or something, which is the only dead person I want back.

The only living people I want dead really badly are Skygaper and Kuribo, and mostly Kuribo on general principle.

You'd be wasting a lynch. I have no key, I don't want a key, and I have no means to obtain a key


Anyone without a key gets banished at well of fears anyway

[kuribo]

BTW as much as y'all might hate to hear it, Maria's town.

We've had so much to discuss over the last two weeks, and honestly I think she's y'alls best bet for winning this thing

[kuribo]

kuribo looks around at the idle, disheveled mess. The thread is littered with empty food cartons, folks sleeping, and the spirits of the restless dead quack uselessly in the wind.

Y'all just let this place go to shit without me huh


Like damn, it takes a third party posting here to get y'all to talk more than once a day?

[kuribo]

Wanna tell me why Maria decided to steal my key? ^_^

You cannot have stolen from you that which was never yours.

[kuribo]

Like I know you're banished at well, but I feel fine with that.

You do understand I was never banished right


I was placed in a PT with Maria (her having the least posts and me having the most) and I was only allowed to post there. By my votes were counted there.

Go check out Skygazer's lynch and tell me who the hammer was

I live, Grey, I am as alive as anyone (and more so than the ghosts)

[kuribo]

Wait, if we day 1 lynched Skygazer, would we have flips this entire time?

I'M SO ANGRY

I assumed it was because everyone who was dead is about to be double dead


Can't really do AtmosFEAR resurrections in a flip game

[kuribo]

Like I know you're banished at well, but I feel fine with that.

You do understand I was never banished right


I was placed in a PT with Maria (her having the least posts and me having the most) and I was only allowed to post there. By my votes were counted there.

Go check out Skygazer's lynch and tell me who the hammer was

I live, Grey, I am as alive as anyone (and more so than the ghosts)

You're. Banished. At. Well.

Like, when well happens. Because I'd have to be desperate indeed to give you a key.

I'm fine with that I don't want a key


You just make sure you don't end up with the black key

[kuribo]

I thought you wanted me to have the black key.

We both know there's no chance in hell you or Katsuki end up with it


I was just being friendly yeesh

[kuribo]

FLIPS? YAY I like where this is going now

[kuribo]

Aight guys y'all get to

beg

make your case as to why I shouldn't banish you.

ALLEZ

I guess no one cares about their survival huh.

Banishing in 6hrs if I don't get any response.

I'm town. You shouldn't banish me because:
-if you are town then you not only banish a known townie but also...
-if you are town, scum, or anything else, then you can expect to be the next banishment target after this.

counter point:

Banish this guy for me and I'll make sure you don't get banished


I don't think he's scum, he just irritates the living fuck out of me and makes me want to kill myself and everyone around me every time he opens his wrongheaded mouth

[kuribo]

Ah third party. Are they town? Are they scum? Dun care, have a banana.

There was a much much easier way to achieve my wincon


I decided to make it more fun than passive tho

[kuribo]

Gamma could be third party, or scum who banished himself.

Why the fuck would I do that

And it's pretty funny coming from the guy who actually did banish himself

[kuribo]

See NK15


This is the dogshit kinda post that makes me want to physically shake you and scream in your face


Your theories are TERRIBLE

you pontificate endlessly about bullshit that makes no fucking sense and come up with radically bizarre theories just for the sake of opening your word hole and shitting all over everything and everyone

And when you're not doing that, you're stating the obvious

[kuribo]

You're literally suggesting that a player who got NK'd May have NK'd himself


In a game where the players are at the moderator's whim in terms of mechanics


Do you know how fucking stupid you sound when you suggest that


Clearly you don't because you continue suggesting stupid things

[kuribo]

In fact I'll tell you WHY I don't like that post

You're literally throwing shade on another probably-town player just so you can be the last ghost standing and get resurrected


There's no god damn reason not none whatsoever to think for even two seconds that gamma emerald likely NK'd themselves and yet you shaded them anyway for your own personal reasons


It's just like earlier you were all "oh we've almost lost the majority" and then "oh we think all the scum are dead Lololol"

Your theories have no logic, no consistency, and no basis in reality

And further, there's no reason for you to be trying to paint gamma as dead scum except to save your own silly ass

You wanna play the stupid theories game fine: here's one for ya:WHAT IF YOU GOT KILLED FOR LYING ABOUT YOUR ALIGNMENT AFTER BWING ORDERED TO BE HONEST

oh, Kuribo, you say, that doesn't make sense based on anything we know. Well hey congratulations welcome to my world where people just make up whatever bullshit they want

And frankly I could give a fuck what you are, it's just that your moonlogic irritates the hell out of me because I still have to read that shit

[kuribo]

Well IF the ghost of my testicles rose in the night and read everyone's PMs, I would be the best person to sheep because my reads would be flawless

And IF I somehow visited the rest of you in your dreams and divined your alignments that way, my play would be flawless


And finally IF you somehow knew the resurrection mechanic you could also have games the system by self-killing


The IF game doesn't work when you posit the ridiculous because anything can be possible IF you disregard common sense

[kuribo]

If you're positing theories that you yourself don't believe are likely, you're just shading GE for no town reason

[kuribo]

yes kuribo your dearest maria stole the key that was rightfully mine and she needs to either relinquish it or die

Who can own a rock


Who can own a tree

Only the great spirit

[kuribo]

Possessions are fleeting

[kuribo]

I'm so sorry GreyICE but I'm not having this in my possession while there's a chance I might die for good with it.

Don't worry it gets passed along in death too

[kuribo]

But I don't want it either

[kuribo]

Hell no. There's currently at least one scum alive. Outside of our group is Kuribo and Katsuki. I don't think it's a Katsuki/TL scumteam.

It could also be 3 scum, but at that point we have to go back to "what the fuck is a 7:3 anyway, town suicide?"

It's entirely possible it's 7:3:3 because of the town win condition

[kuribo]

Hey grey you had the black key and just passed it to me by trapping my posts right

[kuribo]

Go me

It's okay my secret ability is to simply send my black key to someone once it's back in my possession




Plus once I get banished for not having a key at Well, I simply will it to one of you anyway.

[kuribo]

did not want to get Black Key'd that's all carry on

I already know which of you keyholders I will be choosing to pass it to, so don't worry about getting entrapped

[kuribo]

Since we're doing claims and no one will bother popcorning to me (and I fullclaimed to Maria weeks ago so she'll probably just tell you after my banishment):

I am the Kraken, third party Terror in the Deeps. I am the originator of the Black Key.

Before the game started, I had to choose four Loyal Cultists. If I obtain the red key, I create a neighborhood with myself and any living Cultists.

I chose:
GreyICE
Katsuki
Skygazer
Pine

I claimed that I cannot joint. This was a lie, I joint with whichever faction wins as long as my own win condition is fulfilled. And frankly, I couldn't care less which faction I win with.

I claimed that I had to ensure that one of those four sacrificed themselves with the Black key. That too, was a lie.

My win condition is to make sure that neither me, nor any of the Loyal Cultists end the game with the black key in their possession. (Think about how nonsensical it would be for me to have to convince someone to gamethrow) This is why I chose the four that I did. Pine and Katsuki are relatively memeworthy lynch candidates, Grey is a reasonable NK for any scumteam, and Sky... well I had to pick four. This is also why I hammered Skygazer, and why I did nothing to stop Pine's lynch. The less of us five alive at endgame, the better my chance that none of us have the Black Key at the end. I'm willing to watch them be banished to ensure my wincon. Sorry, Katsuki, but we're getting left out in the cold at Well.

I will not be passing the Black key to Grey. Grey, you just make sure you don't have that key when the game ends.

[kuribo]

I could probably take it now and not care since I can just pass it on anyways upon banishment

Might wanna check out my fullclaim. I'm not passing it to you.

[kuribo]

Dang that's a nice ability

[kuribo]

I keep forgetting alisae is in this


Here have the black key lmao

[kuribo]

No take backs

[kuribo]

Hey grey you had the black key and just passed it to me by trapping my posts right

Apparently LLD didn't count mine because it crossed pages?

oh good

[kuribo]

you just hold on to that

[kuribo]

Also this is bullshit

Actually, apparently the mod intent was for me to use my ability to CREATE the Black Key by giving it to someone, but she didn't mention that in the role PM. So when I entrapped my first post, she told me this but recognized that my role PM never said otherwise, and thus I retain my ability to send it to someone.

[kuribo]

shrug


believe what you want

[kuribo]

Ooooo


I don't usually comment during popcorn because it's anti town to do so


But I'm not town so... looks like two Joat claims lmao

[kuribo]

Moo

[kuribo]

I already fullclaimed and I know for a fact you read it because you commented on it

[kuribo]

Since we're doing claims and no one will bother popcorning to me (and I fullclaimed to Maria weeks ago so she'll probably just tell you after my banishment):

I am the Kraken, third party Terror in the Deeps. I am the originator of the Black Key.

Before the game started, I had to choose four Loyal Cultists. If I obtain the red key, I create a neighborhood with myself and any living Cultists.

I chose:
GreyICE
Katsuki
Skygazer
Pine

I claimed that I cannot joint. This was a lie, I joint with whichever faction wins as long as my own win condition is fulfilled. And frankly, I couldn't care less which faction I win with.

I claimed that I had to ensure that one of those four sacrificed themselves with the Black key. That too, was a lie.

My win condition is to make sure that neither me, nor any of the Loyal Cultists end the game with the black key in their possession. (Think about how nonsensical it would be for me to have to convince someone to gamethrow) This is why I chose the four that I did. Pine and Katsuki are relatively memeworthy lynch candidates, Grey is a reasonable NK for any scumteam, and Sky... well I had to pick four. This is also why I hammered Skygazer, and why I did nothing to stop Pine's lynch. The less of us five alive at endgame, the better my chance that none of us have the Black Key at the end. I'm willing to watch them be banished to ensure my wincon. Sorry, Katsuki, but we're getting left out in the cold at Well.

I will not be passing the Black key to Grey. Grey, you just make sure you don't have that key when the game ends.

[kuribo]

Mislynch / NK bait with a touch of "people I'd like to have a neighborhood with"

[kuribo]

Meow

[kuribo]

Ok mostly pine for Mislynch bait but you gotta admit between NK's and mislynches, I had about a 75/25 chance you'd miss endgame

[kuribo]

I couldnt have cared less what was good for the town

[kuribo]

Woof woof

[kuribo]

VOTE: mariar

if the game doesn't end, GreyICE you could swap your key with Gamma's since he needed the yellow key to do a thing and maybe knowing what that thing did would be cool?
idunno up to u
but I am def voting maria

Lynching Maria won't do any good.


You really think she's leaving her key to Katsuki? She scumreads him.

Lynching MariaR is the fastest way to make sure I get a one-way ticket to Well of Fears.

[kuribo]

meep meep

[kuribo]

you're forgetting that if she is town, she can hand off her key to someone else

and you're forgetting that only me and Katsuki don't have keys.


You can only hold one key at a time until Well of Fears, so if she hands it to anyone but me or Katsuki, that person will have to give me or Katsuki a key


And Maria won't hand it off to anyone besides me because she knows I won't give it to her scum read Katsuki.

[kuribo]

Sorry but thems the breaks

[kuribo]

You may as well open the well of fears now, because the only options you have are:

1) Send me to Well of Fears via lynching Maria, leaving Katsuki banished.

2) Open it now and banish both me and Katuski

3) One of you has to volunteer as the lynch in order to will a key to Katsuki and banish me by leaving me keyless

4) Lynch me, Katsuki still gets banished at Well of Fears.

Since I doubt any of you are going to sacrifice yourselves for Katsuki, you may as well accept that he's not going to Well of Fears and neither am I.

[kuribo]

- don't know how she got the red key
- didn't explain what she used on me and kats

- You don't need to know how she got the red key. It's a moo point. It's like a cow's opinion. It doesn't matter. It's moo. There's a need to know basis, and you ain't in that list.


- how does someone in this game with this player list not understand obvious trolling

[kuribo]

Uhhh when he's claimed 3P?

@LLD if only third party and town are present at the Well is town's win condition met?

NOPE

Third Party members are not Town for the purposes of the town wincon. This is a flipless game, so all you will be told is that no win conditions have been met.

it's right there in the first post

[kuribo]

it's sad that I've read y'alls win conditions better than y'all

[kuribo]

and having her pass the key to Kuribo as she will if scum, than any other option today.

That's some bullshit fallacious reasoning right there Kats


If she's town she'll give you the key? Dude, she thinks you're scum. There is zero chance of town Maria sending her scumread to Well of Fears. If given the option of sending a scumread or a claimed third party, any town player will do the same.

Case in point, for all she knows, leaving you out of Well of Fears wins the game for town if they banish me afterwards.


Remember, as long as town doesn't waste their time, they still get banishments after Well. But if the time code reaches zero without town holding every key and without scum finding the key they need, GUESS WHAT? Town loses. Scum loses. And I'll win because you won't be at Well, and neither I or Grey will have the Black Key.


If you're town, TDK, you need to accept that you lynching Maria will actively harm the town win condition.

[kuribo]

Or just let time run out lol idgaf lmao

[kuribo]

I honestly don't care about making it to the well.

Did you ever make use of what I gave to you btw Kuribo? I don't actually know what I bestowed upon you.

I never got anything from you.

[kuribo]

It's kinda obvious though, unless that you believe there to only be a singular Mafioso, that the game will not end upon opening the Well with the current 6, in which Maria will be the first to go anyways.

With all the third parties, as Grey pointed out, that would make it 7:3:3

[kuribo]

Which on that note, there's only 6 lynch options today, none of the other 5 whom I believe to be more likely to be scum than Maria.

I'll be real with you, I don't actually care if she's town or not, I have my own reasons for not wanting you me or Grey at Well, which are pretty obvious.

[kuribo]

it's true she did



and i have scum reads too but i don't care to share them


also my scum reads are probably 100% biased by the fact that my life is easier with both of them banished because my scum reads are Grey and Katuski


*shrug*

[kuribo]

it's actually nice not having to scum hunt

[kuribo]

nah she's town

[kuribo]

her argument in the neighbor PT was really really convincing

[kuribo]

Y'all focusing on her getting the red key


why are you assuming she had a choice?

[kuribo]

lmao

[kuribo]

her argument in the neighbor PT was really really convincing

After all the scum games we've been through together, you really think THIS is my scum game? Because unless I got a lobotomy in the time I've been away, I don't powerbus TL after powerlynching Pine.

I get you want me dead and I promise you I want out ASAP too, but c'mon man, stop playing to your wincon and let me lynch fucking Maria before I face the gates.

Her argument that she's town, duh

[kuribo]

Maria shut the fuck up right now

This is not a line I want either of us dancing around

[kuribo]

Like Jesus

[kuribo]

You can play chicken with the mod in a bastard setup but god damn well leave me the fuck out of it

[kuribo]

...

[kuribo]

Fastest way to end the game is to vote the well open and banish Katsuki and I do we can chill in the dead PT

[kuribo]

I'm hungry

[kuribo]

If you guys wait too long you won't be able to lynch possible scum if there are any among the six

[kuribo]

Just saying

Oh and Grey you keep that black key away from yourself at Well

[kuribo]

I mean I'm just as happy if y'all let the time run out so everyone but me loses

[kuribo]

Actually that would be way better I don't know why I even mentioned that

[kuribo]

"Good job, voting >>> not voting. Also haha, yes I notice you voted me most proximaly to me telling you to vote."

We can only lynch every 12 days. Which means we have a maximum of 4 votes. We need to be very careful with voting here.

Let me be clear, since people don't seem to understand:
Start 60-48 End
48-36
36-24
24-12
12-0

So you have 5 windows. How do you get four, can you explain?

Y'all realize that waiting until twelve basically caused a no lynch right


And now you only get one lynch after opening the well

[kuribo]

Yolo

[kuribo]

Iirc that changes at the Well

I don't see that in the ruleset


I do see a rule stating scum gets another night kill at Well


Attn scum, re: our imminent victory--- kill Grey so I can joint with y'all

[kuribo]

Or kill Grey so i can joint with town


Either way

Not that I think Grey is dumb enough to lose with the black key even if he's alive

[kuribo]

nah fuck kuribo over guys he kept me from the well

Only way for that to happen now is for Grey to allow himself to lose with the Black Key.


Kats, you're my homie 4 life, but I couldn't go against my wincon here, so the best way was to make sure you couldn't get stuck with the Black Key by accident.

[kuribo]

I don't care who wins as long as I joint with them. Shrug.

[kuribo]

Please everyone just ignore kuribo to the best of your ability and that's it.

I tried warning y'all that this was a bad idea.

Every step of the way, you'll see I did exactly what I had to do. Every post I made, every bit of what seemed like lolspam, all of it had a purpose.

[kuribo]

I still have no idea why you said you got nothing from me though. Would be nice if you could use the present I gave you so that I can actually figure out what it does.

I am telling you, on a personal level, with all of our lengthy history behind it, that I absolutely not once ever received anything from anyone.

[kuribo]

You know I would never have let myself end with the black key under any circumstances.

I understand that, but it's better safe than sorry.

Though now that we're about to both be banished, I can admit that I only picked you, Grey, Pine, and Star because if I got a red key, I could create a neighborhood with the five of us and I was really looking forward to that.

I didn't come up with the idea of watching everyone die until after Pine got lynched.

[kuribo]

I was told my action went through on you so, like over a month ago. :/

Maybe you got blocked?

Maybe you have a secret Loyal modifier?

Maybe it's a bastard game and doesn't do what it said it did?

Maybe I was still under my curse of silence and couldn't be affected?

Maybe it had an effect that neither of us know about?

[kuribo]

So how did Maria get that key? I was quite salty about that.

Once we're in the dead PT, I'll explain (maybe) but there are things I am not at liberty to speak on, and I'll leave it with that.

[kuribo]

I'll also admit now, since Maria will wonder:


Maria, I lied, I never scum-read Katsuki. I just knew that you were scumreading him and that playing along would help prevent him from getting to Well.


Like, I named three scumreads in that PT--- Katsuki, Grey, Sky.

Can't imagine why I'd want those three banished when I have no interest or need to hunt scum.

[kuribo]

You know I would never have let myself end with the black key under any circumstances.

I understand that, but it's better safe than sorry.

Though now that we're about to both be banished, I can admit that I only picked you, Grey, Pine, and Star because if I got a red key, I could create a neighborhood with the five of us and I was really looking forward to that.

I didn't come up with the idea of watching everyone die until after Pine got lynched.

It's unfortunate that PT never happened, but I had fun playing this game.

Fuck the game thread I partied in a QT all game.

Oh, this game's been a blast for me

[kuribo]

I do think she's town, but honestly I haven't been scumhunting.

It's probably Alisae tbh.

[kuribo]

Kuribo's only purpose for confirming anything related to you was to force me to die.

Are you implying that I would cut a secret deal with a player of an unknown alignment, especially one whom I was forced to share a PT with for over three weeks while not being allowed to talk at all among the game thread? Like the kinda deal where I make sure someone makes it to endgame as long as my wincon is protected?


Cause like if that's what you think

[kuribo]

I mean does that seem like something I would do of course not

[kuribo]

It's almost as if we met in a game of warfare where diplomacy and politics with all sorts of backroom deal cutting existed. But Kuribo would never cut a deal with a player so long as his interests were secured, surely not.

I was never the best space general but I knew how to rally people and cut deals while silently undermining whatever I had to give up in exchange.

[kuribo]

I could never imagine Kuribo carrying out any action that could possibly not align with the town's interest, even if it did not align with his own!

I'm perfectly happy to joint whichever side wins.

[kuribo]

Third Party Kraken Kuribo WINS,

Third Party Lexi, Katsuki, WINS

Second Wave 2019

Second Wave 4 Life

[kuribo]

Third Party Kraken Kuribo WINS,

Third Party Lexi, Katsuki, WINS

Second Wave 2019

Second Wave 4 Life

...wave?

It's a space terrorist thing

[kuribo]

Oh by the way, regarding the red key:

When LLD separated me into the neighborhood with Maria, she told us that we'd actually be the ones selecting who got the red key. We were not allowed to share this fact. The town would be voting for someone to receive a punishment instead of the key.

I told maria I was good with whoever she chose. She chose Skygazer but since I was trying to lynch my cultists and leave them out of well, I suggested we give it to Maria instead. She agreed so That's what we did.