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Post Post #994 (isolation #0) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:31 am

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Hello, haven't looked at anything, or read anything, other than my predecessor's ISO.

Anything I should know while I catch up?
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Post Post #996 (isolation #1) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:58 am

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ISO'd the mod.

Question - Am I in anyone's scum pool? why?

Am I in anyone's town pool? Why?



Will continue skimming to catch up (if there's anything you want me to pay special attention to, please tell me). But having something to go on here would help me out a lot in getting into the swing of the game.
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Post Post #998 (isolation #2) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:23 am

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That should change then.
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Post Post #1004 (isolation #3) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:41 am

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In post 1002, Rick Dalton wrote:Lil Uzi Vert, Croag, Lapsa, Mumble, rosterfoster, Vorkuta, Darth Baker,

Probably have all the scum in them.
Lapsa slot here

I'm very interested to know why you're scum reading this slot. Let's talk.
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #4) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:52 am

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Ok Vork, that actually gives me something to go on here. Thank you!

It seems most of your issue with this slot is activity based? That wouldn't apply to me. You don't have a baseline for that with me yet, as I've only been here like a couple hours. Same slot, different person.

Personally, I also tend to be a person of few words, but I try to make the words I say count. So average word count per post is a weird reason to scum read someone.

I do tend to be slot with my votes, but deliberate. Look up literally any game (it's not my job to link you). But I do think I use my votes effectively.

I can't really speak to questions that were aimed at my predecessor, unless they're about my role. So I'm gonna scratch that for now. If anyone has any questions they still think apply to me, I'm all ears.

Do you have any basis to continue scum reading the slot now that someone else is in it? It seems like at the very least, I should be in a neutral slot on your radar at the moment given the reasons you were SRing me.
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Post Post #1009 (isolation #5) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:53 am

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@Rick Dalton - could you tell me a bit more about your claim, since you've already claimed. What do you mean by ungated? Please humor me. I'm going somewhere with this.
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Post Post #1020 (isolation #6) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:14 am

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In post 1010, Vorkuta wrote:Cheers

Now see- I believe that given the lack of activity in this game, scum had/has absolutely no incentive to post anything "of substance".
My Lapsa SR wasn't entirely on "inactivity", but on "inactivity AT those points in time".
Like the selective disregard of questions addressed to him BACK THEN. Now those questions are no longer relevant, but that doesn't really mean you start off with a brand new clean slate.

Otherwise your argument can be entirely reduced to "hey guys, I know my predecessor was scum, but I replaced in and I'm a brand new player so.... neutral me kthnx"


Strong opening though- I dig it, and please breathe life into this game.
Ok, that's fair.

I don't know what the game felt like in real-time so I don't have much of a response. But I do hope I can breath life into this game.
In post 1012, Rick Dalton wrote:
In post 1004, Chickadee wrote:
In post 1002, Rick Dalton wrote:Lil Uzi Vert, Croag, Lapsa, Mumble, rosterfoster, Vorkuta, Darth Baker,

Probably have all the scum in them.
Lapsa slot here

I'm very interested to know why you're scum reading this slot. Let's talk.
Never said I was scum reading those 8. Just that scum were in there. Just means I don’t have many town reads. The town reads I do have I feel I’m pretty confident in.
So help me out a bit and tell me which players are actually scum reads, because it really seems like you're trying to go back on wording.

Why don't you have interest in lynching?
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Post Post #1021 (isolation #7) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:15 am

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Sorry, let me re-phase that last sentiment, I think it came out wrong. Why would you put someone on a scum list that you have no interest in lynching?
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Post Post #1023 (isolation #8) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:18 am

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In post 1022, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 1020, Chickadee wrote:I don't know what the game felt like in real-time
You've ISO'd the mod and saw his prod-gifs?
That tells a good part of the story
I have. But there's just no substitute for being here real-time.
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Post Post #1026 (isolation #9) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:35 am

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It does help a little. But I think I still wanna go where I wanna go. Gonna give this some time though.

Have you gotten any results from tracking? Sorry if you went over this already.
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Post Post #1032 (isolation #10) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:02 am

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Ok, so stick with me kids.

I think Mr. Dalton here is scum. I think that He's running a scum gambit with Vault. I do believe Vault took the shot as claimed, but maybe not as the role he claimed.

I am a town aligned tracker. So ole Rick here is likely not a town aligned tracker.

VOTE: Rick Dalton

Discuss.
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Post Post #1033 (isolation #11) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:03 am

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I have 2 results I'm willing to share, but would like to see how this plays out for a second.
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #12) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:15 am

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In post 1034, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1032, Chickadee wrote:I think Mr. Dalton here is scum. I think that He's running a scum gambit with Vault. I do believe Vault took the shot as claimed, but maybe not as the role he claimed.
Are you saying scum made both kills?
Possibly?
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Post Post #1038 (isolation #13) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:32 am

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It's possible they're not scum together. Maybe he's using VD's claim to support his claim. But knowing RD's main, my mind immediately jumped to "whacky hijink/conspiracy theory".

At the very least, I am CCing Rick, and sticking by it.
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Post Post #1041 (isolation #14) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:43 am

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In post 1040, Almost50 wrote:What do you mean by "not scum together"? Are you suggesting they could be TvS Or scums on different teams??

If TvS, what's the scum motive for scum!Rick to prevent the lynch of a Town PR? If scums on different teams: 1- Where's the 2nd kill on N1? and 2- Why out yourself to the other scum team? 3- Why save a member of the other team when there hasn't been any red flips yet?

Even if you suggest Rick is scum and VD is SK, it still doesn't make sense. Plus VD claimed ONE SHOT. Nothing here makes sense for them to be scum, and especially not Rick, and if Rick is town then VD did make that shot and Rick is telling the truth.

I guess I will go back to silent mode now and see how things work out, but I wanted to make sure I understand the basis of your case here.
If they're not both scum then I am indeed saying TvS.
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Post Post #1042 (isolation #15) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:47 am

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Why would town have two trackers?
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #16) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:55 am

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Why clem now?
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Post Post #1048 (isolation #17) » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:49 pm

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So I can confirm Clem did nothing N1. It's no hard innocences or anything, but something to consider.
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Post Post #1078 (isolation #18) » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:27 am

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Well this got interesting quick.

Leaving my vote where it is.
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Post Post #1130 (isolation #19) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:44 am

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UNVOTE:

whacky hijinks afoot
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Post Post #1143 (isolation #20) » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:52 am

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There's too much lying and confusion going on, and I don't know what to think.
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Post Post #1148 (isolation #21) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:12 am

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In post 1147, Croag wrote:VOTE: mumble

change my mind
Any comments on anything else?

Help me get a read on you please.
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Post Post #1150 (isolation #22) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:30 pm

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Ok I'm starting to see what you meant about the game being dead. This is unbearable. This is the perfect environment for scum to slip through. if town can't even bother to post, why should scum?

In a bit here, after I get some dinner, I'm gonna try to make heads and tails of some sort of reads list to start wading through this.
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Post Post #1154 (isolation #23) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:03 pm

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In post 1152, Almost50 wrote:@Chicka: You do this and I'll be your second vote.
Are you saying you'll vote with me or against me?
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Post Post #1155 (isolation #24) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:06 pm

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Not jumping into the reads list yet, because I'm cooking. But I will go ahead and finish my claim. Earlier I think I said Clem did nothin N1, but I rechecked, and it was N2.

My total results thus far are: Saudade N1 and Clem N2, both went nowhere on the night they were tracked. Do with this information what you will.
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Post Post #1157 (isolation #25) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:20 pm

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Cool. I mean, I fully intent to give my best effort at bringing this game to life.
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Post Post #1158 (isolation #26) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:37 pm

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I'm doing all this on skimming ISO's and reading context where I want more clarification, so it's entirely possible I'm still missing some broad strokes. So please, let this spark discussion. Groupings are loose, not using colors, but I'm sure you can figure stuff out.

Almost 50 - ISO, straight out of the gate with some same thoughts I've had but not yet voiced (the ninja claim coming from scum). I like their catch up after replacing in. Overall seems like town A50
Vorkuta -
VaultDweller - Claimed the vig shot, as well as ascetic. I have no reason at the moment to believe he's lying.

rosterfoster - I like the ambition, but seems tunneled at the moment. If you have anything to share with the class, then share with the class. A lot of naked vote posts and things that seem shallow...but I'm not seeing scum motivation in them. I get the feeling they're trying to suss out the game. It's D3 though, we should be somewhere by now.
Saudade - went nowhere N1 - is this slot alive? Have they been replaced? Very confused as they haven't posts in 17 days.
Clemency - Went nowhere N2
Creature - had no clue creature was in this game until now. Hasn't posted yet this day, is there a reason we haven't lynched him? Did he replace out? Hard to tell because OP hasn't been updated.

Darth Baker - Not sure what to make of this....I hate gimmicky accounts. I always feel like there's more dedication to the gimmick than to the game or alignment. Someone help me.

Mumble - Their posts look like they're trying to contribute in the most minimal way possible. Like recently pointing out that Rick wasn't listed in the vote count.

Croag - DEFINITION of prodding. They're been here the whole game and have 19 shallow posts.
Rick Dalton - sketchy. I don't like some of the technicalities of wording he's been relying on since I've been in that game, and the fact that he lied. There's a lot of weird stuff going on there.
Lil Uzi Vert - Honestly expect more game-solvey posts from this slot. Instead the posts seems shallow
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Post Post #1159 (isolation #27) » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:39 pm

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Sorry, this wall of text made even my own eyes glaze over. EBWOP to bold names for readability.
In post 1158, Chickadee wrote:I'm doing all this on skimming ISO's and reading context where I want more clarification, so it's entirely possible I'm still missing some broad strokes. So please, let this spark discussion. Groupings are loose, not using colors, but I'm sure you can figure stuff out.

Almost 50
- ISO, straight out of the gate with some same thoughts I've had but not yet voiced (the ninja claim coming from scum). I like their catch up after replacing in. Overall seems like town A50
Vorkuta
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Honestly thought I put something here. guess I didn't. Anyway I like Work for town.

VaultDweller
- Claimed the vig shot, as well as ascetic. I have no reason at the moment to believe he's lying.

rosterfoster
- I like the ambition, but seems tunneled at the moment. If you have anything to share with the class, then share with the class. A lot of naked vote posts and things that seem shallow...but I'm not seeing scum motivation in them. I get the feeling they're trying to suss out the game. It's D3 though, we should be somewhere by now.
Saudade
- went nowhere N1 - is this slot alive? Have they been replaced? Very confused as they haven't posts in 17 days.
Clemency
- Went nowhere N2
Creature
- had no clue creature was in this game until now. Hasn't posted yet this day, is there a reason we haven't lynched him? Did he replace out? Hard to tell because OP hasn't been updated.

Darth Baker
- Not sure what to make of this....I hate gimmicky accounts. I always feel like there's more dedication to the gimmick than to the game or alignment. Someone help me.

Mumble
- Their posts look like they're trying to contribute in the most minimal way possible. Like recently pointing out that Rick wasn't listed in the vote count.

Croag
- DEFINITION of prodding. They're been here the whole game and have 19 shallow posts.
Rick Dalton
- sketchy. I don't like some of the technicalities of wording he's been relying on since I've been in that game, and the fact that he lied. There's a lot of weird stuff going on there.
Lil Uzi Vert
- Honestly expect more game-solvey posts from this slot. Instead the posts seems shallow
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Post Post #1173 (isolation #28) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:07 am

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In post 1170, Rick Dalton wrote:
In post 1166, johhny sno wrote:i think flavor has some pretty strong scum equity here by the way (i have like, kind of figured out how to read him lately?? in a similar way that i learned how to read a50??) ~
Nah, if you’re who I think you are, you’ve said this every single time, and guess what, you were WRONG every time.

I was about to push you for that, but then I realized I was always wrong with you too. :lol:
If he says it enough it's bound to be true.

And he's not the only one saying it this time.
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Post Post #1175 (isolation #29) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:46 am

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In post 1130, Chickadee wrote:UNVOTE:

whacky hijinks afoot
@MOD I unvoiced for the time being, just in case that vote count was wrong
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Post Post #1176 (isolation #30) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:46 am

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*unvoted - I hate autocorrect
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Post Post #1179 (isolation #31) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:41 am

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If the whole game is supposed to be about opposites, why would town have two of the same role?
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Post Post #1224 (isolation #32) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:49 pm

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In post 1196, Rick Dalton wrote:@Chickadee - I fucked up by lying as town here. That’s on me. There’s no reason for me to do that as scum, it’s just the act that subliminally goes to your head as scummy because you don’t like it, but you not liking it doesn’t make me scum.

I think you are town based on the VD/Roster scenario, and Roster seemingly has dropped the Ascetic happenings. Roster has taken advantage of the entire situation, and he played his hand. You are probably my most confident town read right now after all this confusion, and I’m trying to make it up to you here, because I know it’s going to be hard for you to trust me now, but please see that I am town.

No more lies. I'm willing to give you a chance here, but that doesn't mean I completely trust you.
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #33) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:05 am

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I don't think we need to leash the SK. He claimed 1shot vig, so if there's another kill and no one claims it, we kill them.
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #34) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:16 am

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But an odd night vig would ideally claim their kill. I don't think it's productive at the moment to worry about a potential SK. We have ways of handling it.
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Post Post #1236 (isolation #35) » Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:24 pm

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This conversation is not productive. I'm getting really frustrated at the lack of participation this game.
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Post Post #1244 (isolation #36) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:19 am

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In post 1243, Croag wrote:lets massclaim :cop:
Does this mean you're actually going to play?
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Post Post #1247 (isolation #37) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:17 am

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I hadn't taken that as a real claim.
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Post Post #1255 (isolation #38) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:06 pm

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Great! Looking forward to it. While you're at it, how do you feel about a mass claim?
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Post Post #1263 (isolation #39) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:30 am

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In post 1261, The Fonz wrote:VOTE: Rick Dalton

Guys, lynch all liars. Seriously.
Any comments other than taking the easy road?
You replaced Creature, who had high scum equity. So taking the easy road right off the bat with no other comments doesn't sit well with me.
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Post Post #1273 (isolation #40) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:35 am

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In post 1272, Rick Dalton wrote:I forgot Creature was in this game or I’d have brought that up already.
I think I brought it up when I replaced in. I was really curious why y'all hadn't lynched there yet. He had so few posts.

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Post Post #1276 (isolation #41) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:23 am

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In post 1275, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Isn’t that his M.O. though?
We need more from your spot too, or you're the next to go.
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Post Post #1321 (isolation #42) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:31 am

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I'm reading alone, but also battling an exhausting sinus infection. So cheers.
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Post Post #1324 (isolation #43) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:07 pm

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I do think there's a good wagon analysis if he flips town. It was kind of alarming how quickly the wagon built. But I also get the feel that people are excited about something happening in the game, and just want blood at this point.

But I do think it's a good lynch.
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Post Post #1327 (isolation #44) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:21 pm

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In post 1325, Almost50 wrote:@chickadee: I was relying on your detailed catch up. Did I miss it?
It ended up being much less detailed than I intended. It was just a reads list.

I've been laid up in bed dying from a sinus infection for a couple days, and thus exhausted by literally everything. I've been sleeping a lot instead of playing mafia.
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Post Post #1334 (isolation #45) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:19 am

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Will you though?
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Post Post #1336 (isolation #46) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:25 am

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We need to push something through. For anyone not on the Fonz wagon, can you express to me what your hesitation is, and propose your preferred lynch today?
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Post Post #1341 (isolation #47) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:03 am

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@A50 - Yes, I'm on the Fonz at the moment. I'm inclined to stay there.

I think we do go for the mass claim.

I've already claimed, so to recap, I'm a tracker.
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Post Post #1345 (isolation #48) » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:22 pm

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I'm gonna popcorn to LUV, since he said he'd get to this tonight.
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Post Post #1366 (isolation #49) » Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:43 pm

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This game.....is something else....
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Post Post #1367 (isolation #50) » Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:50 pm

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Where the fuck is everyone? Why did any of you sign up for this game? Does anyone have any intention of playing (outside of the 3-4 slots that are probably regularly checking this game)?

I feel like there's been a good amount of stuff that's happened to comment on. Also we're doing a masjclaim, so it's not like you can't pop in and do the bare minimum to help out with that.

Hell, at this point I'd even be willing to just finish out the day with naked votes until a consensus is reached.

Something. Anything. Help a girl out here.
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Post Post #1369 (isolation #51) » Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:12 pm

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I'm on board

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Post Post #1380 (isolation #52) » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:45 am

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In post 1377, Darth Baker wrote:Let us all get on the same page so we actually get a lynch on this day. The Emperor would not be pleased to see a day like this end in no lynch.
I am unconcerned with which player said lynch happens to. The Empire will thrive regardless.
That is a very bad outlook to have D3 if you're town.



Also now the Fonz is replacing. Seriously what is this game???


More votes on Croag please.
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Post Post #1410 (isolation #53) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:08 am

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A50 said he already claimed. We had a bit about it. He's VT
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Post Post #1424 (isolation #54) » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:40 am

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We don't have much time left.

If you're not currently voting, consolidate in one of: Croag or Fonz.

Everyone on smaller wagons, consolidate.

I'm willing to do either.
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Post Post #1476 (isolation #55) » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:32 pm

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We have indeed mass claimed, this isn't a replace-in trick
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Post Post #1486 (isolation #56) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:20 am

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I don't really want to check Rick tonight for reasons. But we can talk about it after he comes in and says why he didn't act N1.
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Post Post #1519 (isolation #57) » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:30 am

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I need something to flip this day phase. It's gone on too long.
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Post Post #1558 (isolation #58) » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:36 am

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IF you're not voting, please vote. MY god. This day has gone one entirely too long.
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Post Post #1559 (isolation #59) » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:37 am

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We've been in this day phase for 16 real life days....
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Post Post #1565 (isolation #60) » Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:29 am

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And you're not helping.
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