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Post Post #71 (isolation #0) » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:28 am

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Ego. Ill be around later.
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Post Post #787 (isolation #1) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:55 pm

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In post 775, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Let's fucking go, scum caught. Seriously, that reaction is utter garbage.
Catching up now, LLD whats this about?
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Post Post #860 (isolation #2) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:16 pm

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In post 851, PenguinPower wrote:Hello:

Not Voting (5): xofelf, UntrodTripod, Formerfish, Aristophanes, ankamius,

Do something.

And, you're welcome, Jingle.
Yeah, ive been working on it, kinda takes awhile to read 850 posts and figure shit out.

What would you like to know? I ask this because im looking at the list i have on a notepad and I have exactly 1 person without a thing written next to their name, which means that they havent said anything in 850 posts that I felt worth mentioning at all.

Wanna guess who that person is?
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Post Post #863 (isolation #3) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:18 pm

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In post 862, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 858, Aristophanes wrote:Fiiiiine XD

It's a bit premature, but
VOTE: mastina

I meant what I said.
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Can you quote any of your 16 posts that are for real and not memey?
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Post Post #866 (isolation #4) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:21 pm

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So no, you cant. Cause you are the only person who was like a ghost to me in the thread.

Ill post what i had on you:

PenguinPower-
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Post Post #867 (isolation #5) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:21 pm

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I at least had one thing written down for a few people, but you were the only one who has posted that many times and said so little of worth.
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Post Post #869 (isolation #6) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:22 pm

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VOTE: PP
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Post Post #871 (isolation #7) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:23 pm

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In post 868, PenguinPower wrote:Sorry you can't read well?
Nah i read very well, just read you as scum and now voting you.
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Post Post #873 (isolation #8) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:23 pm

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What else would you like to talk about PP?
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Post Post #874 (isolation #9) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:24 pm

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oNE MORE?
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Post Post #878 (isolation #10) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:25 pm

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I dont like his early vote on FB, and dislike everyones draft wifom about not being picked. Feel like he has been doing a whole lot of nothing, and the mastina idea could have legs that Pine would take Ari because people think he wont do it again. Also that scum pt slip was obvi fake and why?
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Post Post #882 (isolation #11) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:27 pm

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In post 879, Aristophanes wrote:He is obviously doing things. Literally 3 votes on this page are due to his prodding.
This is a bit of a misrep, my vote came after i read the thread and started to engage with people in a live manner and then when i pushed someone on something i got something i didnt like so i voted there.

pedit- not why did you ask, but why as anything does Ari fake a scum slip?
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Post Post #883 (isolation #12) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:28 pm

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Post Post #888 (isolation #13) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:32 pm

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In post 884, popsofctown wrote:
In post 878, Formerfish wrote:I dont like his early vote on FB, and dislike everyones draft wifom about not being picked. Feel like he has been doing a whole lot of nothing, and the mastina idea could have legs that Pine would take Ari because people think he wont do it again. Also that scum pt slip was obvi fake and why?
I feel like the PT slip might be real


I don't really have a problem becoming gullible to scumclaim slips since I don't really see how that could be exploited against me very well.
I recently played a game as scum where we gamed up the idea to fake a scum slip but to do it for real, so one of the goons cooked up a post and posted it in the main thread and then used misdirects in what was posted to try and conftown one of the 2 left over.

Its didnt work. But it was fun to try.

pedit- Ari, can you talk to me about what your note said agian? I missed it somewhere and dont have it in my notes. And i post fast because im on a laptop and dont really care about spelling or grammar.
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Post Post #890 (isolation #14) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:33 pm

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In post 885, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 882, Formerfish wrote:pedit- not why did you ask, but why as anything does Ari fake a scum slip?
Maybe use grammar next time then?
Bro i was accepting resposibility for it, but you can keep pushing if thats what you feel you need to do. Do you wanna comment on what i actually said about Ari or just get pissy with me for a misunderstanding?
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Post Post #892 (isolation #15) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:35 pm

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In post 891, PenguinPower wrote:Probably both.
Ok, well pissy party partcipated in, wanna get to the analysis?
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Post Post #895 (isolation #16) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:36 pm

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Anyone else on wanna dance?

I feel like I can handle at least 1 more partner right now.

pedit- what do you mean you havent seen it yet?
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Post Post #896 (isolation #17) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:36 pm

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Ari just filled my card, sign ups will commence forthwith.
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Post Post #897 (isolation #18) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:37 pm

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Sorry i read that wrong somehow as you hadnt seen it yet.
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Post Post #901 (isolation #19) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:41 pm

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Ari, how were you addressed? How was it signed?

I'd also like to talk to Katsuki.

Katsuki, I wanna talk to you. Hit me up.


Pedit- it means that you and I are dancing by default because you are here and we already are.
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Post Post #904 (isolation #20) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:43 pm

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Did you need me to ask the question again or do you want to stall for more time?
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Post Post #908 (isolation #21) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:45 pm

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In post 906, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 904, Formerfish wrote:Did you need me to ask the question again or do you want to stall for more time?
I had to go ask Pine how he would have addressed it, obviously :roll:
Well that was kinda my implication.
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Post Post #911 (isolation #22) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:47 pm

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In post 909, popsofctown wrote:I wanna dance
Later, I have you as town for a lot of reasons, but i can fracture my attention that far without it hurting things.
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Post Post #913 (isolation #23) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:48 pm

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In post 910, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 908, Formerfish wrote:
In post 906, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 904, Formerfish wrote:Did you need me to ask the question again or do you want to stall for more time?
I had to go ask Pine how he would have addressed it, obviously :roll:
Well that was kinda my implication.
:lol:

I know XD

Dancing is no fun without a partner who keeps it interesting, right?
When you aren't the one leading and you go for a dip its seen as a faux pas.
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Post Post #916 (isolation #24) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:51 pm

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In post 914, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 913, Formerfish wrote:
In post 910, Aristophanes wrote: Dancing is no fun without a partner who keeps it interesting, right?
When you aren't the one leading and you go for a dip its seen as a faux pas.
Then why TF did they tell me there would be salsa if I'm not allowed to go for the dip!?!?
Because this isnt a salsa, its a tango, and if you arent leading you dont do the dip.
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Post Post #917 (isolation #25) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:51 pm

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Ari, dont make me break out...


... The Forbidden Dance.
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Post Post #920 (isolation #27) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:53 pm

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In post 915, PenguinPower wrote:And there it goes again.
What was this about PP?
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Post Post #922 (isolation #28) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:54 pm

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In post 921, PenguinPower wrote:My Ari town read.
Gotcha, what made it a tr in the first place and why is it gone? And how gone, like a fart in the wind gone, or your dog took a shit on the floor so now there is a carpet there kinda gone?
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Post Post #927 (isolation #29) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:59 pm

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In post 923, Aristophanes wrote:Hahaha alright, this has been fun analogizing XD

Back to thegameTM though. Sup? Whatchu thinking about the message and my, uh, I guess OMGUS read on mastina since she said it first.


Oh no, so many ninjatos
Ive been playing the game the whole time bro, catch up.

I think you should be able to say what Pine called you in your message
@Jingle can you correct this if im wrong or confirm if i am right that Ari would be able to give more details about his note?


I think Mastina has a good idea and at the time it felt like a strong lead to push, you havent done much to dissuade any of those fears and i think have exacerbated them.

I think you have a high scum equity.

pedit- PP- do you think he is trying to shy away from me and placate me with humor and jolly good fun?
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Post Post #928 (isolation #30) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:01 pm

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PP who do you have reads on?
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Post Post #933 (isolation #31) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:07 pm

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In post 932, Aristophanes wrote:Oh, well that's kinda cool!

Also it means none of this has a bearing on, like, anything. XD
So then you wouldnt mind telling us how he addressed you?
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Post Post #935 (isolation #32) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:10 pm

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ok.
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Post Post #936 (isolation #33) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:11 pm

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In post 858, Aristophanes wrote:Fiiiiine XD

It's a bit premature, but
VOTE: mastina

I meant what I said.
This is a bad vote and mastina will be sorted one way or the other.

Where else can you vote?
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Post Post #944 (isolation #34) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:35 pm

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In post 937, Aristophanes wrote:Uh, I've not read enough to have another good place actually.

And "mastina will sort herself out eventually" is a dangerous mindset, especially with mastina!
Very naive imo
Mastina claimed a vig in a neighborhood with Pine, you dont think that is going to have some movement?
In post 938, Aristophanes wrote:Like I just looked at the playerlist and I don't remember what more than half of people have said so ya know, eventually.
Just ask your buddies in the pt to bring you up to speed on who you should be trying to mislynch now.

And i see youre back to shit posting. Go read or something if youre town, get better reads.
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Post Post #954 (isolation #35) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:01 pm

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In post 949, chennisden wrote:i think ari is town but this is based off of a marathon game, so take it with a grain of NaCl
Don't do that.
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Post Post #957 (isolation #36) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:06 pm

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Hey im a survivor now! Is that what I get for going over 10k in posts? Who do i have to double dutch rudder to get a fucking nickname up in this piece?

pedit- no one should ever use a marathon game as a reason to ever read anyone ever. not even in other marathon games.
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Post Post #966 (isolation #37) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:15 pm

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In post 961, Dannflor wrote:
In post 955, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 953, Dannflor wrote:I'm town reading FF based off the last few pages. PP is slightly less town but still town.

Ari, I have absolutely no idea what to make of you. What are your non-Mastina reads?
As I say, still need to read up a lot. But I'm leaning town,in varying degrees and no particular order, on PP, LLD, FB, Chenn, and Pops with lightish scum leans on xof, TW, FF, and UT. jjh is null and the rest I don't have enough yet to say.
Why the scum read on FF?
What scum can't contain, must not remain.
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Post Post #968 (isolation #38) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:17 pm

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In post 964, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 961, Dannflor wrote:Why the scum read on FF?
He's pushing and dancing and whatnot which looks really good, but something about it feels agenda'd. Like he wants certain reads and is therefore going in certain directions with his stuff.
This is just a less nuanced way of saying that im playing the game. I read the thread, and have things that I want to talk to people about to see if things i saw where real or if they were windmills.

So, yeah, of course I am going to engage with certain people and not others right now because I dont have a need to really engage the people im tring because im tring them.

So I talk to the nulls and my srs to figure out whats what.

How do you play the game?
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Post Post #969 (isolation #39) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:23 pm

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In post 964, Aristophanes wrote:He's pushing and dancing and whatnot which looks really good, but something about it feels agenda'd. Like he wants certain reads and is therefore going in certain directions with his stuff.
The more i look at this the more it seems fake to me. What reads am i looking for? Ive interacted with like 4 people so far and have talked about like 2 reads.

Your statement is hollow because you point out a buzz word and then let everyone else read my posts with that in mind. If you think i have an agenda tell us what it is, point it out in my posts and stop pussy footing around an accusation.
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Post Post #973 (isolation #40) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:27 pm

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In post 972, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 969, Formerfish wrote:
In post 964, Aristophanes wrote:He's pushing and dancing and whatnot which looks really good, but something about it feels agenda'd. Like he wants certain reads and is therefore going in certain directions with his stuff.
The more i look at this the more it seems fake to me. What reads am i looking for? Ive interacted with like 4 people so far and have talked about like 2 reads.

Your statement is hollow because you point out a buzz word and then let everyone else read my posts with that in mind. If you think i have an agenda tell us what it is, point it out in my posts and stop pussy footing around an accusation.
Meh, maybe I'm not good at reading you. It's just the feel I got.
Feelings are fine, but i want to know where it came from. What posts of mine did you read and say to yourself, "Ari, are you seeing the same agenda I am?"

I would like to know what agenda i am pushing.
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Post Post #975 (isolation #41) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 6:31 pm

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Sky, this one's for you!
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Post Post #990 (isolation #42) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:15 pm

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In post 988, Iconeum wrote:Formerfish you wanna go at it now or later?
Depends. If you are town you should probably leave me alone. If you are scum lets dance hombre.
In post 989, the worst wrote:
In post 697, Ankamius wrote:Duckling are you going the same strategy as you did in thread title sucks
Idk what you're asking me to quantify here sorry I don't have time to really play to a strategy for another few days
What was your strategy in the game that Ank mentioned?
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Post Post #993 (isolation #43) » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:32 pm

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In post 991, the worst wrote:I tried lots of fancy stuff so I'm not sure exactly what she's asking me to qualify
Worsty, its me. Dont do this to me.
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Post Post #1088 (isolation #44) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:16 am

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In post 1033, Alisae wrote:Pine didn’t even give Mena a response
You’d think that if Mena was scum, he would atleast get a response from Pine.
Pine did respond, saying that Mena was too late.

I think we need to delve into the fruit a little more, especially if Chick ends up successful in her task. Chick, who are you going to neighborize with your shot?
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Post Post #1090 (isolation #45) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:45 am

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In post 1038, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1036, the worst wrote:his kind of tunnel is firmly within your scumrange
did you see that i was pushing chennis as well?
Something about this post pings me. Like he gets accused of tunneling and that it would be in his scum range, and Icons response is that he has also been pushing Chenny. I looked back and saw that Icon has talked about Chen a bit, but there is nothing worth breaking into a hot dog eating contest to report.

And the idea that Icon caught Gamma in a slip because he sat with Marias post for a bit and ended up not liking it, is ridiculous on its face. Are you telling me that you never read a post and felt it was ok, and then had it niggling away at your brain saying something felt off or something wasnt quite right, and then when you looked at things again it made more sense with other stuff being taken into account?

In post 1044, Ankamius wrote:Someone check me on the worst

I'm starting to townread him and I want to be sure I'm not being charmed like I usually am when he's scum
Be weary. The fact that he hasnt said a fucking word to me yet is as much of a scum claim as anyone has made so far. Ducky, you cant dodge me. I can smell your fear.
In post 1046, Menalque wrote:1.now, go ahead and read me. I'm saying that Ank saying she was SRing me at the time she first voted me for my entire play when I'd done nothing that would be a good reason to see me as anything other than null is weird

2. I'm not saying you shouldn't push me, I'm saying you should be aware of that as we go and that I think it makes scum inclined towards pushing me

3. who says I'm not sorting people? this is being very productive in terms of sorting you and ank so far. when it dries up then I'll start sorting elsewhere
1. I've always disliked when people try to discredit other peoples reads by saying that what they are based on shouldnt exist. You are playing in a way that is coming off scummy. If you are then you are being obvious scum and if you arent then you are being bad town and you should stop it.

2. Just because you say scum are more inclined to push you doesnt make that gospel. If you were town you would be saying not to push you.

3. What are your current reads?
In post 1048, Menalque wrote:you're townier than you were before and ank is scummier
I feel the opposite. Can you explain why you feel this way a bit instead of just making a naked statement about reads without any of your thought process evident.

Pedit- Chick- are you willing to work with the town and make a choice, or are we going to offer our opinions and you are going to do whatever you want to do? And whos in your top two tiers right now?
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #46) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:58 am

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In post 1067, Aristophanes wrote:Ive read the last few pages and didn't glean as much as I'd have hoped. I think Imma Iso dive as it's my preferred method and see how many ppl I can cover.

Any recommendations of who to start with? If not it'll be the people I didn't list as having a read on in some way yesterday.
I usually go from smallest iso to biggest, that way if i find all the scum before i have to read the long ones i save my eyes from the effort wasted.
In post 1070, the worst wrote:Actually a bit nervous about LLD. I kinda get she's doing LLD things and the xofcase gets the game firing in a way that I am never surprised to see LLD do but it's also kind of just.... noise.... like I am aware she doesn't expect anyone ever to take that case seriously and I'm not sure it's actually productive/does anything to solve the game

very much consistent with LLD scum m.o. but I think I can also see it come from LLD who saw something and wanted to kick up some noise about it to get a conversation going. but it was way too soon and not conducive to a valuable conversation so did she do it just to look like she's solving the game?

food for thought. I'm scared of LLD so I'll observe cautiously.
This post seems like its a good one, worst is giving a hot take on a read no one else has made yet. It rings hollow though because worsty kinda throws it all away when he says that this could be town LLD as well. This feels like an attempt to smear LLD and insight paranoia in others that may not have been there without your comments. I guess my question is, what was the point of this entire post? To let us know you were going to keep an eye on her because she is a good player? We are all here because we are good players in one respect or another. Why make this post about LLD and no one else?
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Post Post #1105 (isolation #47) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:33 am

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In post 1076, Pine wrote:Survivor? That’s a third party role and this is confirmed singleball. Lynch this immediately!

In post 1083, Ankamius wrote:The goal isn't to lynch scum every day but to give myself enough information to properly narrow down who CAN be scum to put town in an unloseable situation
I can cosign to this type of play. Its the same thing I do and have success with. Its like putting a puzzle together. You dont always pick up the piece you need at the point for anything, and you just set it aside for later what it fits into what you are currently doing. You keep going around and around the puzzle until everything fits and the answer is more apparent. When we start to hammer our fists into the pieces to force them into place is when we get into trouble.

The equivalent of that here is being against any lynch so venomously that it causes things to stall. This game isnt won on day one, we have a certain number of chances to be wrong and every single one of those mistakes gives us more info to work with and a better look at the entire picture. This is a game won by consensus and rarely because any one singular person caused the win.
In post 1091, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1090, Formerfish wrote:Be weary. The fact that he hasnt said a fucking word to me yet is as much of a scum claim as anyone has made so far. Ducky, you cant dodge me. I can smell your fear.
Do you have a specific history with him that would speak to this being a "scum claim" or is that just a general dislike of people who seem to avoid engaging with you
I dont want to make it out to be like we are best friends, but worst and I have a very good relationship as far as ones on here go, and I do consider him to be a friend, even if we are still in the new phase of that. We talk semi-regularly in chat and other places and we have had quite a few games where he is the mod or back up mod and we had an opportunity to talk during those games. I am a night owl and he is in Aussie country so we get on at the same time often as well. So yeah, the fact that I think we are semi-close for internet standards. The fact that he hasn't said hi to me or acknowledged I even exist in the game makes me weary of him.
In post 1092, popsofctown wrote:pedit: you're not fucking leashing a 1-shot neighborizer what planet are you living on FF?
Shhhh... if you keep talking youll miss the show. Here, have some popcorn.


pedit- yeah, i hadnt gotten there yet, my bad. I can agree to that idea, I wasnt ever saying that I wanted to lease you, I just needed to see where your head was at after you went renegade and took the fruit without even testing Pine on his caveats.
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Post Post #1106 (isolation #48) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:33 am

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Hey Katsuki, wanna dance?
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Post Post #1109 (isolation #49) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:39 am

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In post 1108, Katsuki wrote:What;'s up long time no see?

IDK about dancing when I have to provide my own music for each and every dance but sure. I'll probably end up popping out soon tho

Ok, can you explicitly tell us what your restriction is and what happens if you break it?
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Post Post #1112 (isolation #50) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:42 am

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In post 1110, Katsuki wrote:Sure. First I'll be hit with a more restrictive post restriction, and if that escalates, it may lead to Alisae's death.
What is your post restriction? You didnt answer the first question.
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #51) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:48 am

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In post 1115, popsofctown wrote:Formerfish is rope going to be the only way to keep you from rolefishing the entire large theme
If Kat has a pr shes broken it twice without making up for it.

Stop stepping into my lines of inquiry when you dont know what im doing.
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Post Post #1118 (isolation #52) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:02 am

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Hey pops, since you keep interjecting yourself onto my dance card, you want the next one outright?
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Post Post #1122 (isolation #53) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:18 am

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In post 1121, popsofctown wrote:I'm using terms loosely, it's not rolefishing. It's similar to rolefishing in that he's collecting nightplay information with little perceptible town upside and perceptible scum upside.
I dont feel like I really need to point out why you are wrong about this, but you could address me directly since I just asked for your hand.
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Post Post #1124 (isolation #54) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:22 am

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Ok, you lead or shall i?
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Post Post #1126 (isolation #55) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:26 am

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Fair, who do you feel strongest about as town and as scum? Give as much reasoning as you see fit.
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Post Post #1133 (isolation #56) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:45 am

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In post 1130, popsofctown wrote:Ank is scum, that's my vanity wagon.

LLD is scum, but not the sort I want to immediately lynch. Maybe I should have that stance for LLD, but I don't. LLD is a powerscummer and if we do actually have town LLD she can identify powerscumming and spotlight control takes-one-to-know-one style which can be a big deal in a large. Her own ability to manipulate the gamestate is going to mitigated to whatever extent she's distrusted, going the other way.
She's scum just because xofelf as the day1 post1 play is bad circumstantially. Like it might be genuine town LLD who happened upon this strong read and it's just unlucky, but it seems too aligned with scum!LLD's natural incentives going into the large.
Ari is scum. He's posted too much without giving me something resonant. That's admittedly pretty weak for 3rd place on page 46 of a 25p. I just like all you guys.
I think youre wrong on Ank but i dont want to go into why yet.

I can see where you are coming from with LLD. The opening post wall case on Xof followed by the vote and then pressuring Ali to say why she was defending Xof pinged me all sorts of wrong. There are other things that have be wishy washy on this slot, and i dont have much experience with her, so i dont know how to take her 100% yet.

Ari could be scum.

Why no town reads from you, only scum?
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Post Post #1138 (isolation #57) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:55 am

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In post 1134, popsofctown wrote:Firebringer is town. I believe in slips.

Gamma Emerald is town. His thought on MariaR was really resonant. I think maybe he did something else good that I forgot.

My notes PT says Dannflor is town but I'm still not sure if me and my notes PT believe it. He seems willing to go after some small victories which is what accelerating a day1 into a positive gamestate is all about. Other people are trying to figure out fruit in its entirety or make sure they have voted and are on a wagon and are proud of that wagon, best exemplified by PP's scummy posting of the not-voting portion of the votecount, which is a little too survivalistic.
I agree with you on FB, i think he is being more of a chaos factor, but not in the way that I think is bad yet.

Gamma i have as null right now, I dont think hes done all that much, and some of the things he has done I have down as negs but its nothing huge. I usually read him wrong, so im holding off.

I disagree a bit on dan. I didnt like the vote and reasoning in when he voted for JJH. Not saying he is scum, just that I havent seen enough to make him town. I do see a bit of a difference between him and PP, but i kinda think PP is scum anyways so that skews my view.
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Post Post #1145 (isolation #58) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:25 am

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In post 1141, the worst wrote:
In post 1090, Formerfish wrote:Be weary. The fact that he hasnt said a fucking word to me yet is as much of a scum claim as anyone has made so far. Ducky, you cant dodge me. I can smell your fear.
There's like a dozen ppl on this list I have very strong synergy with lovely I'm sorry, I don't have the time to engage with all of ya yet

what are you looking for from me in an engagement? specifically.
Pretend you are a server taking care of tables. Your section is banging and you have a bunch of tables and they are all happy, but they need things. Then you see that the host sat you another table. At this point you would do a flyby of the new table and just say hello and let them know you would be right back with them.

The only engagement that I was looking for from you was a hello and an acknowledgement that I was in the game with you. You failed to meet the minimum expectation of what you would do as town with me in a game since we dont get a chance to play often in games together. Instead i get snubbed, and then made to feel like im looking to far into it.

Worsty, we had a game together recently where you were scum and I was town correct?
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Post Post #1146 (isolation #59) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:27 am

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I feel like we did and you kinda did the same thing you are doing here where you are keeping me at arms length and kinda gaslighting me when I see things that in the context of us seems off.
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Post Post #1148 (isolation #60) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:40 am

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In post 1147, the worst wrote:I don't think so no, sorry

don't have any issues engaging with friends as scum in larges (starcraft mafia, undertale mafia jump to mind), might not bother in a micro if I don't have to but if I'm deepscumming a large theme then I'm stuck with y'all for the long haul so buddying up asap is +ev - you're describing me playing against my scum m.o.

again not keeping you at arms length, there's a lot of people in this game I'm lacking engagement with but atm my time is a limited commodity. the most I have in my notes on you is "haven't seen posts yet, iso and interact later" :c
viewtopic.php?t=77211&f=50&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

Here i replace into a game and you go out of your way to say hello to me and say you read some of my games and have been looking forward to playing with me. We were both town in that game.

viewtopic.php?p=10531154&user_select%5B ... #p10531154

This game started after the Newbie where you went out of your way to greet me, and you were scum in it who got lynched day 1.
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Post Post #1150 (isolation #61) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:50 am

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Im just going of the feels im getting from your slot. You are also being way more defensive about this than i think you would normally be.

Town you would see me reach out to you and would high five me and apologize. I think scum you would try to turn this around on me because you have no other way to explain it to me in a way that is going to make me feel less like this is history repeating itself.
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Post Post #1151 (isolation #62) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:51 am

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Hell even after telling you all I was looking for was a hello, you go on a multipost tirade about how I should not feel special and go back to being just another poster when I know you dont feel that way and if you are scum i dont like this tactic from you.
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Post Post #1156 (isolation #63) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:24 am

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Pops, did you get tired? Did i step on your toes?
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Post Post #1158 (isolation #64) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:28 am

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In post 1155, the worst wrote:
Spoiler: resoling self meta convo with fishy likely boring for anyone else sorry
Sorry Fishy I understand what you're getting at.

But: I don't think trying to read me by whether or not I say hello to you is a very valuable use of yours/anyone's time. I think I've produced legitimately provocative content which you could probably analyse instead. To make up for it I'll be back to hang out w/ you and everyone else I've been ignoring when I'm not literally in Europe. :P

It's also surface-level concerning to me that you're not interested in engaging with my content but you are interested in shading me for not saying hello to you based on a meta read which is outdated, circumstantial (scum meta relates to a game when you posted exclusively while I was asleep prior to my page 3 lynch) and a microscopic sample size regardless. is this earnestly a reason for you to scumread me? or are you trying to get a dialogue going? if you're trying to get a dialogue going I :? assume :? this is unsatisfactory so what do you want from me? I'm kind of neutrally disinterested in being strung along for roundabout meta reaction tests so meet me half way and see if we can get inside each others heads for a minute. you're not gonna get my alignment off this. you're gonna get a very confused duck (and one who has already spent too much time on something which he can't see a point in)

Fmpov all this looks like someone who wants to have a scumread on me and needs to cram it through OR a townie who is confused on how to read me. I haven't read any other posts from you so I'm comfortable talking to you as though there's a 19/26 chance you're town. I don't really feel the need to be defensive towards you about this. I feel the need to explain why I didn't say hello at a social level and offer you a hand in getting an alignment indicative dialogue open.


This conversation needs to either end right now, or steer towards something which is going to help this game move along.
Im fine with letting you roam and seeing what happens. I realize that there might be a little sour grape situation there

so its quite possible im confbiasing based off something i shouldnt.

I can let it go.

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Post Post #1160 (isolation #65) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:32 am

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In post 1159, GreyICE wrote:
In post 1150, Formerfish wrote:Im just going of the feels im getting from your slot. You are also being way more defensive about this than i think you would normally be.

Town you would see me reach out to you and would high five me and apologize. I think scum you would try to turn this around on me because you have no other way to explain it to me in a way that is going to make me feel less like this is history repeating itself.
What about my LLD wagon

its awesome

it has candy

delicious delicious candy

made from dead trees
I dont trust you enough yet, your vote on FB was bad, the whole mason thing was weird, and then the psuh on Mastina in seemed forced.
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Post Post #1237 (isolation #66) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:33 am

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A few pages behind, but can we please use in game names and not real ones, i dont know who some of you are talking about, lexi, who keith is or who llds husband is, is that who keith is?

Please use gamer names.
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Post Post #1241 (isolation #67) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:35 am

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In post 1202, Katsuki wrote:
In post 1198, Firebringer wrote:His scumread is like the same scumread he used on you last time I saw both of you in game
In post 1199, Firebringer wrote:And he was scum in that
LMAO

HUMOR ME

PRETTY SURE THE LAST GAME I WAS SCUM VS LEXI TOWN WAS BEFORE YOU JOINED THE SITE
Did you graduate from videos in each post to all caps because you got punished?
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Post Post #1248 (isolation #68) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:41 am

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In post 1240, Pine wrote:Lexi = LLD
Keith = GreyICE

They are married. Context, dude
Shut up you stupid tree. :] :) :D :giggle: :lol:
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Post Post #1250 (isolation #69) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:42 am

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Im saying this here so I go through with it, but i plan on doing an open mic tonight.

You are all witnesses to me saying this.

Ask me about it tomorrow.
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Post Post #1252 (isolation #70) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:42 am

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Solid page top!
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Post Post #1255 (isolation #71) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:45 am

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VOTE: LLD

sold me after being soured by your ate.
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Post Post #1256 (isolation #72) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:45 am

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In post 1254, Katsuki wrote:btw ff you could've skipped the whole song and dance and gone straight to the point of whether you believe me potentially faking a PR makes me town or scum.

I'm back to lurking until this playerlist is reduced to a playable state.
I could have but i wanted to see how far youd go with it.

Whyd you give up?
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #73) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:49 am

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In post 1258, Katsuki wrote:Breaking it because it was too tedious to find a video for every post during that time.

IDC if I get a more restrictive PR. I was planning on prod dodging anyways.
Are you normally a hyper poster? I think that might have been the reason for the restriction. Do you feel like you post differently as different alignments?
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Post Post #1265 (isolation #74) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:50 am

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In post 1264, Krazy wrote:Fire do you remember Witches Halloween Ball?
You thinking about what i think youre thinking about?

The Lookie-lou?
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Post Post #1272 (isolation #75) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:59 am

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In post 1270, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1268, popsofctown wrote:I don't think mastina and LLD can both be town and bulletproof. That seems like a 1v1.
Mastin claimed bulletproof vig?

?!!

I thought she just claimed vig
To be fair, she claimed bp vig in a neighborhood with Pine.

And was never going to shoot.
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Post Post #1295 (isolation #76) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:24 pm

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In post 1275, Pine wrote:
In post 1272, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1270, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1268, popsofctown wrote:I don't think mastina and LLD can both be town and bulletproof. That seems like a 1v1.
Mastin claimed bulletproof vig?

?!!

I thought she just claimed vig
To be fair, she claimed bp vig in a neighborhood with Pine.

And was never going to shoot.
And that she was a Mason, iirc
I thought someone else postulated that idea, not mastina herself?
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Post Post #1302 (isolation #77) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:27 pm

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Chick wont be able to use the neighbor until night 2.
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Post Post #1307 (isolation #78) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:30 pm

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In post 1305, Pine wrote:
In post 1302, Formerfish wrote:Chick wont be able to use the neighbor until night 2.
Nah she can use it N1. In fact, only N1
Thats not how i read it, ill need to look back at what made me think that.
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Post Post #1309 (isolation #79) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:32 pm

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In post 400, Pine wrote:This shot must be used the night after it is received.
I think the phrase night after made me think that it was recieved in the night.

So Chick will have the fruit given to her during the day?
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Post Post #1310 (isolation #80) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:33 pm

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In post 1308, popsofctown wrote:Vigging LLD and having a real lynch today is indeed better EV than mislynching her, and I think it's a mislynch
If LLD is a mislynch then what wagon was she the counter to?
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Post Post #1316 (isolation #81) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:39 pm

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Ok, thanks for the clarification.

So the idea is that if LLD allows herself to be neighborized by chick that LLD would be more town than not?

pedit- not even sure what that means and have no drive to look it up. Pops says that LLD is town and we are mislynching her, logic would state that somehow her wagon gained traction and could have been around the decrease in scrutiny that a slot was receiving. I dont know who yet because i havent looked, but the fact that you felt it necessary to respond to that makes me think i might have hit a nerve.

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Post Post #1323 (isolation #82) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:43 pm

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In post 1313, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:One why can't both wagons be town
Two I am not lynched yrt and there isnt only two options so there isnt really a counter wagon
Three JJH is scum
1. Im not saying you arent both town. Maybe the way i phrased the question was off, and should have asked about his view on the other wagons. I havent even looked myself yet, just had the idea and wanted to get it down before i lost it cause im high

2. If 1 of the established wagons was seeing some gain in traction and then you suddenly jump to the head of the class for the lynch today I would like to see where and why that happened exactly. I know I was on your wagon, but Ice made what I thought was a good point about your role. I dont entirely tr or sr either of you, its too early and i remember not reading Ice well in past games.

3. Not as convinced as you are, not interested in that being a lynch today.
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Post Post #1330 (isolation #83) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:52 pm

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last vc had this:

Worst 4
Ari 3 (wagon lost krazy, jjh)
FB 2 (lost kat)
Mena 2
Mast 2 (lost Ice)
Ank 2
JJH 2 (lost worst)
Tied with 1 vote- 5 people.

Ice 1097, worst 1144, Kat 1163, Kraz 1165, Me 1255 (im sorry, unvoted 1316), jjh 1278

So maybe this was to take heat off Ari?
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Post Post #1332 (isolation #84) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:54 pm

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The worst wagon didnt move, but went from the leading wagon to 2nd once LLD jumped up to 6 and then 5 votes. Is this the scum team mobilizing around a preferred mislynch and thats why worsts wagon didnt move at all, cause they are town?
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Post Post #1334 (isolation #85) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:55 pm

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That would have to mean someone was bussing with Kat and JJh though dfoesnt it...
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Post Post #1406 (isolation #86) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:18 pm

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In post 1403, Alisae wrote:I have yet to see a doctor to consult about my own issues
Don't forget you have support. Everyone here does. Regardless of what happens in a game we should be able to look out for our own as the family we choose to argue with a threaten to kill.

I have been through my own trials and got help to come out the other side. Anyone who wants to talk with someone who won't judge hit me up. True story.
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Post Post #1409 (isolation #87) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:31 pm

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In post 1408, Firebringer wrote:im thinking of making tacos, what u guys thinking?
I'm thinking the place I went to has a taco night tonight so I got a beef and pulled pork taco.

Also, it's not comedy night, they changed the format to an open mic. I'm still gonna do my set though.
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Post Post #1414 (isolation #88) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:41 pm

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In post 1410, Aristophanes wrote:Good luck FF! Hope it goes well! Is anyone recording it so you can review your jokes and the crowd's reception to them later? :)

If you were in my neck of the woods I'd legit go out to cheer you on!
I'm going to record it myself on my iPod. You guys will get to hear it.
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Post Post #1419 (isolation #89) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:21 pm

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During fighting in WWI between the Germans and the French both sides put down their arms on Christmas, crawled out of the trenches and greeted their enemy as friends on the battlefield in honor of the holiday.
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Post Post #1428 (isolation #90) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:29 pm

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In post 1425, MariaR wrote:i hugged myself because I'm that fucking great.
In other news keep it up you guys are boring me with your posts.
Even me?
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Post Post #1432 (isolation #91) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:31 pm

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In post 1430, MariaR wrote:
In post 1428, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1425, MariaR wrote:i hugged myself because I'm that fucking great.
In other news keep it up you guys are boring me with your posts.
Even me?
You and I both know your posting will never bore me formerfish. Who else is gonna tunnel my logic and make me fight with them this game?
I feel like if it weren't me it'd be someone this game. Icon is good for it.
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Post Post #1487 (isolation #92) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:41 pm

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In post 1481, Alisae wrote:I decided to order food again
this time i got panda express
I got 2 fortune cookies
one of the states that an exciting new friendship will get you out of your rut.
the other one states that your smile brings happiness to others


which is what its supposed to do
dont forget to add "in bed" to the end of each fortune.

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Post Post #1497 (isolation #93) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:56 pm

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In post 1488, popsofctown wrote:My first thought is google drive and share links, I think this makes your email address available to every recipient if you don't already have/go through the effort of making a gmail account that is throwaway and separate.

My second thought is upload it to youtube as a blackscreen youtube video, going to youtube's built in "edit together your own video" thingamajig I think it has now, but then only adding any audio to it and maybe the very first image you find on google images.

I am not sure to what extent such an obvious or sensible suggestion will follow mine or blow it out of the water.
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Post Post #1501 (isolation #94) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:23 pm

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Ali, when do you grace us with your lovely letters?
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Post Post #1505 (isolation #95) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:56 pm

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In post 1504, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1419, Formerfish wrote:During fighting in WWI between the Germans and the French both sides put down their arms on Christmas, crawled out of the trenches and greeted their enemy as friends on the battlefield in honor of the holiday.
You mean right after and right before they were shooting and stabbing and killing each other relentlessly? Right?
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Post Post #1506 (isolation #96) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:59 pm

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Mena has been awful quiet lately, anyone else notice that?
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Post Post #1508 (isolation #97) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:06 pm

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In post 1507, Alisae wrote:probably has to do with the fact that he's asleep
Not for the last 17 hours has he?
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Post Post #1512 (isolation #98) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:10 pm

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In post 1509, Alisae wrote:going by EU time
it checks out
I didnt realize he was across the pond as well. He'd be waking up sometime soon right? I can never remember time zones and who is how far ahead of whom except for us and the west coast.
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Post Post #1513 (isolation #99) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:14 pm

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In post 1510, Iconeum wrote:@Formerfish, sure it's entirely possible to change ones mind on something but I think the progression as seen in game is off. Do you think this is scum!me pushing bad cases just for the sake of it?
Do you really want me to answer that question honestly?
In post 1511, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1506, Formerfish wrote:Mena has been awful quiet lately, anyone else notice that?
If you call Mena out for this, why not the active lurkers?
Because of the people who havent posted in a bit i feel like he had the most fire to his feet and then he just puffed away. Mastina is about to be prodded, not sure what to think there, xof has said shes going to be playing slower, UT has some scum equity, sky has been doing her thing all game, and then mena. After that we are in 10 hrs or less since last post for everyone.

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Post Post #1515 (isolation #100) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:15 pm

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In post 1514, Alisae wrote:
In post 1512, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1509, Alisae wrote:going by EU time
it checks out
I didnt realize he was across the pond as well. He'd be waking up sometime soon right? I can never remember time zones and who is how far ahead of whom except for us and the west coast.
I mean
Iconeum is posting
so give him a bit
he should be around soon
Thats not what i meant, Im not trying to rush him, just getting ideas of when who might be on if i needed to talk to them easier.
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Post Post #1518 (isolation #101) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:22 pm

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In post 1516, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1513, Formerfish wrote:Why do you care who I call out and for what?
Well, why shouldn't I? You target 1 player specifically for being quiet, while I think players like Sky are doing worse. You say Sky's been doing Sky, but I don't see it.
I mean, you could let me do what i want to do and leave me alone like you know you should do. But you seem like you wanna engage with me for some reason.
In post 1517, Iconeum wrote:I don't like how you were coming to gamma's defense while there wasn't that much to defend over :)
I dont know if you are trying to poke me or if this is something real you wanna talk about.
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Post Post #1524 (isolation #102) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:42 pm

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In post 1519, Menalque wrote:but I know from skimming last night that I have questions from duck and FF to answer
Holla at me when you can, ill be aroundish.
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Post Post #1529 (isolation #103) » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:10 pm

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In post 1527, Alisae wrote:that took about 5 hours of my time
I cried a lot
I hope these things move ywall just as much as they moved me.
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Post Post #1534 (isolation #104) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:36 am

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In post 1532, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1528, Alisae wrote:ALSO IF I AM BULLIED FOR MAKING SOME SORT OF TYPO

I AM SORRY
MY VISION IS GOING BAD I NEED GLASSES OKAY

:(
I haven't even bullied Pine for typoing in the message he sent me yet
Or the one he sent Ali.
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Post Post #1535 (isolation #105) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:38 am

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In post 1533, Untrod Tripod wrote:holy mother of christ every time I say okay I'm gonna actually read this now I see there's been like 4 pages of prick waving dick fights and I get mad at close the window
Maybe power through that or say something when you're here? I dunno what you expected from any game of mafia in general or this one specifically, but dick waving is like 76% of any game.
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Post Post #1537 (isolation #106) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:59 am

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In post 1536, Ankamius wrote:There are good odds that tornados are going to hit me tonight and I both live in a mobile home and am not sure whether our shelter is even still available

So if I vanish, then you know what happened

Just a warning
There's a couch, or air mattress, for you in Pittsburgh if you need.
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Post Post #1541 (isolation #107) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:19 am

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In post 1539, chennisden wrote:This is unhealthy
I know. I feel like my brain isn't working quite right. Sleeping for 2 hours was a very bad idea. It wasn't even a nice nap.

Wait. What are you talking about?
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Post Post #1543 (isolation #108) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:27 am

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In post 1542, popsofctown wrote:Is no one going to tell Formerfish about how he's good at standup

I laughed

It was better than any of my podcasts for my drive to work today
Thank you! Last night gave me the confidence to do more with it. It'll only get better from here!

I think I need a nap now. Words are hard and typing is taking too long because I keep making mistakes and then don't understand what's wrong with what I did.
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Post Post #1544 (isolation #109) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:34 am

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Or I pound a red bull, smoke a bowl and ride this disassociative feeling to it's completion. Maybe do some dishes.
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Post Post #1546 (isolation #110) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:23 am

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this is my 3rd time doing an open mic. I have been dabbling with writing since 2008ish?
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Post Post #1547 (isolation #111) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:23 am

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Last time I did anything in public was 2010
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Post Post #1549 (isolation #112) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:42 am

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Im null to you?
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Post Post #1551 (isolation #113) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:50 am

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In post 1550, Ankamius wrote:I've done a good chunk of skimming and I haven't taken as many notes as I've wanted to so far
Ok, so since i was absent until post 850 i can understand that. Since i have been active how much have you been reading v. skimming?

Ive been trying to keep my posting in mind but do a bit better at reading people with real time interactions based off pokes and prods i make.
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Post Post #1555 (isolation #114) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:56 am

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In post 1553, Ankamius wrote:I've been skimming since the pace sped up, FF. It was roughly around that point.

Pink Ball the differences between the names are very real, I have different shades of null on different players based on a metric that I'm keeping downlow since I suspect that there's multiple scum in that gradient somewhere atm and I don't want to tip them off on what the metric is enough for it to be manipulated.

But I do have reasons to have several names roughly above null and roughly below null.
Alright, well, you wanna dance?
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Post Post #1557 (isolation #115) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:01 am

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In post 1556, Ankamius wrote:I'm not looking for dance partners soz

I'm a single type of lady
Not the way you gather your reads?
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Post Post #1568 (isolation #116) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:18 am

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In post 1564, Ankamius wrote:That was me being a smartass

I generally get reads on people indirectly since I have a tendency to tunnel when I interact with my scumreads directly, and generally when I null read someone I either need a jumping off point to get the info I need to get a read on them or some other way to get you to do something AI by my metrics

So yes interactions do help, but not direct interactions most of the time unless I need something specific or am doing a reaction test
I figured, do you, holla if you need me.
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Post Post #1572 (isolation #117) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:25 am

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In post 1571, Ankamius wrote:Formerfish, I'm open to talking about other reads if you're interested in that instead.
Thats what dancing is to me. You ask about a read, we talk about why we feel the way we do about the person and see where we are relative to each other.

Im looking to build a town bloc down the road, and need to know where people land on the scale.
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Post Post #1575 (isolation #118) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:30 am

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In post 1573, Dannflor wrote:blah I don't like either of the top wagons

VOTE: Krazy

I'd like to talk about your reads the next time you pop in
Its been awhile, would those wagons be lld and worst?

And just a question, but do you want to talk about the reads krazy has mentioned or get more reads in general from that slot?
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Post Post #1576 (isolation #119) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:31 am

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VOTE: UT
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Post Post #1581 (isolation #120) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:36 am

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In post 848, Krazy wrote:Since this is singleball I'm thinking Mena's town, when he was scum he had a very particular feel to his posts and I'm not getting that here. Thinking of Micc's Pokemon game where I was on my Pikachu account and he replaced into scum.
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Post Post #1583 (isolation #121) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:37 am

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In post 1579, GreyICE wrote:
In post 1576, Formerfish wrote:VOTE: UT
Unfortuantely he's a problem that can go away tomorrow.

If Lexi is scum, she can shoot everyone who can support her lynch, and she'll never be handled by night play. That's why sticking a commuter role in her hands would be top notch scum-choosing from Pine - given three or four days to shoot this town into shape, she'll be wagon proof.
So we are assuming that she true claimed her role, just not her proper alignment? I mean it seems like a decent thing to claim to get people to not target you as town PRs because there would be a very good chance the action would be wasted, and as scum she wouldnt have to worry about hiding from scum because she is one.
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Post Post #1585 (isolation #122) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:40 am

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In post 1584, popsofctown wrote:
In post 1581, Formerfish wrote:
In post 848, Krazy wrote:Since this is singleball I'm thinking Mena's town, when he was scum he had a very particular feel to his posts and I'm not getting that here. Thinking of Micc's Pokemon game where I was on my Pikachu account and he replaced into scum.
Does that even count when it reads so absurdly fake though
Pops, you gotta trust me to do my thing here.

Have you ever seen My cousin vinny? Where he holds up fingers for the woman to see if her glasses were ok and the judge called out how many fingers were up before the woman could answer.

I am poking and prodding and I need a little space to do that.
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Post Post #1592 (isolation #123) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:46 am

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In post 1586, Dannflor wrote:imo, everything she's done from the beginning of the game has been town motivated. #275 generates content out of almost nothing and is a good way to help move the game out of RVS.
How do you feel about LLD putting pressure on a slot that she clearly thought that Ali might be indicating that xof was a mason. LLD even went as far as kinda making an ultimatum to Ali that she tell us if xof is a mason to get LLD to pivot. It even got to the point where LLD points out thats what she was doing, and when she did it felt forced because of course thats what she was trying to do, but why? Why not just take Ali at her word for at least the first day and not suicide on xof!scum paranoia?
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Post Post #1593 (isolation #124) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:47 am

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In post 1590, Untrod Tripod wrote:shrug

I shouldn't have joined this game. should have known there would be this much posting. don't like to play games like that.

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Post Post #1618 (isolation #125) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:09 am

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In post 1595, Dannflor wrote:
In post 632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I have Xof!Scum dead to rights here, and you're calling her completely town. Is this a kneejerk reaction protecting a player you don't want to see die for personal reasons? Yes or No.
hm is this what you're talking about?

I read that more as having a very sure scum read and wanting to make sure Ali's defense wasn't for non-game related reasons

if that's not it can you quote the ultimatum for me?
Ali says back off:










LLD in 632:
In post 632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Alisae, my points on Xof are completely valid and fit well within the range of Pine's picks.

I want you to look me dead in the metaphorical internet eye and tell me this isn't just you being protective of a player who is coming back to the game after a time away from it.
In post 632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So, if you tell me this is for real and you actually town read Xof I will switch and find some other scumfuck to nail to the wall but know this
In post 632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I know you're town but that don't make you fucking god. I'm willing to play ball but if I find out you've just been straight lying to ensure I push reads you approve instead of reads you don't I swear to god I will treat you like Pine this game, cause you'll be more anti-town than he is.
In post 632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So let me ask this plainly

I have Xof!Scum dead to rights here, and you're calling her completely town. Is this a kneejerk reaction protecting a player you don't want to see die for personal reasons? Yes or No.
to which Ali replies
In post 653, Alisae wrote:I wanna get back to you on this later and I am kinda just saying atm “I read this but I can’t respond to it atm”
In post 1388, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:No kidding I was trying to talk to you. I wanted to fuckong know if your shit on Xof was a mason thing e
Without asking uou if she was a fuckong mason. I needed to know if she was town or just likable so i could pivot.
And then this from LLD. Anyone would be able to see that LLD is vaguely masking her question of xof mason, and Ali gives what looks like a difinitive answer by saying stop asking. Which shoulc have been evident with the above list of times Ali told people to back off.
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Post Post #1621 (isolation #126) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:17 am

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In a game where we have a town stump who picked her masonry its pretty scummy to go at someone as hard as that, maybe you did it because you had a idea that Ali would pick xof?, especially after the stump who picked the masonry tells people to back off someone at least 9 times.

See how many times Ali says to back off of anyone else. But LLD pushed it and pushed it and then claimed she wanted to do it under the radar...
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Post Post #1623 (isolation #127) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:19 am

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In post 1620, jjh927 wrote:Huh that's a fair point FF

I'd kinda assumed that kind of thing could slip past some people
When I have a clear on someone I dont out it the first chance I get the next day. I sit on it and wait to see if anyone comes out blasting towards my clear, and then i let things develop, and gain reads.

I will defend them eventually though and put my game life on the line to save them if needed and then attack the scum
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Post Post #1625 (isolation #128) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:21 am

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In post 1624, Dannflor wrote:maybe that just boils down to TWTBW

which, I have 0 meta with LL so maybe I'm wrong in assuming these things aren't scum indicative
I hate the idea of something being to scummy to be scum.

This is an idea perpetuated by people who want to do scummy things as scum and make people believe that scum never does scummy things out in the open like that.

Fake news is fake.

Wolfy actions deserve rope no matter what. Mason hunting is not protown, pushing that hard against the town stump is not protown.
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Post Post #1626 (isolation #129) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:22 am

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Killing these fucking pagetops not even trying, the weed is strong with me today.
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Post Post #1628 (isolation #130) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:25 am

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In post 1627, Katsuki wrote:
In post 1624, Dannflor wrote:maybe that just boils down to TWTBW

which, I have 0 meta with LL so maybe I'm wrong in assuming these things aren't scum indicative
You are.

Sheep me on LLD, I have easily the highest rate of reading LLD correctly out of everyone in this game, perhaps only outside of GI. Only time I recall being wrong about her alignment was when I got DM'ed out of game. 95% accuracy is still exceptional.

She is scum this game 100%.

I still wanna know why you faked a PRes.
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Post Post #1635 (isolation #131) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:29 am

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In post 1633, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also Ffish please get the stick out of your ass about Katsuki's "post restriction"
Dont tell me what to focus on. What i eat doesnt make you shit. Its a question I want an answer to, but its not at the top of my list for importance on or even interest in pushing there right now.

Keep stepping in front me me and her and imma start to think a certain way about it.
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Post Post #1637 (isolation #132) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:40 am

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to wolfy to be a wolf

basicaly the action is so scummy, scum would never do it.
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Post Post #1639 (isolation #133) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:47 am

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Thank you Ali :cry: :]
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Post Post #1646 (isolation #134) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:57 am

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In post 1644, Pine wrote:Hot damn, Ali beat the pants off of me in quality of message, if my two letters are anything to go by.
I appreciated yours as well, but for a different reason.
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Post Post #1652 (isolation #135) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:00 am

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In post 1647, Pine wrote:
In post 1646, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1644, Pine wrote:Hot damn, Ali beat the pants off of me in quality of message, if my two letters are anything to go by.
I appreciated yours as well, but for a different reason.
Well, mine were in-character taunts, Ali just wrote me really nice letters.
Yours was a taunt to me, i had that it was sweet in my notes:

" I got one of those notes, was I supposed to be scared? I thought it was sweet, made a boy blush"
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Post Post #1654 (isolation #136) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:02 am

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Just lynch the slot to save the mod
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Post Post #1849 (isolation #137) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:38 pm

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In post 1684, Gamma Emerald wrote:Well from my experience it's completely irrelevant to Katsuki's alignment so I'm seeing you pushing NAI things and it frustrates me
I mean, unless you have a vested interest in Kat being alive I dont see what the issue with me pushing her on one thing is. Like are you afraid if I call her out and she responds that the PRes. is fake then scum is going to come for her? Its not even like she is in danger of being lynched right now, there is just something thats out of place and she can solve it. Which is why I dont get why you got in the middle of this.

Like she is adding a wrinkle where we dont need one for no reason other than lulz?
In post 1715, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:You've played this before. When the fuck does ANYONE EVER DRAFT ME.
Too many comments like this make me feel like you are trying convince us that this happened. I think the fact that you are pushing it so hard yourself is bad form and you arent an unbiased source so your word isnt gold here.
In post 1747, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Like seriously don't talk about the masons, protect them at all costs. Do you understand?
What the fuck is this? How are you going to push Ali for as long as you did about xof because you needed to see if xof was one of Alis masons, but now she needs to protect her masons by not talking about how you may or may not be one of them?

You literally were the one to draw all the attention to xof in the first place.
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Post Post #1858 (isolation #138) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:43 pm

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In post 1751, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1744, Alisae wrote:like I feel let down because I feel like town!jjh
just
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Thus this is scum JJH!

Easy shit :)
Have you started to play seriously at all. Every post of yours comes off like a jester in a court playing to his king and queen.
In post 1758, popsofctown wrote:I changed my answer FormerFish it was a counterwagon to Ank
LLD was?
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Post Post #1871 (isolation #139) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:00 pm

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In post 1864, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:What the fuck are you saying Fish.

I was protecting Masons both times. I only talked about thw Xof thing once I was pushed on it. My motices are clear both times.

And also i keep sayibg I wouldn't be pixked because I wasnt. You are corrext if I was picked I would also say this but the logic is sound and yohr logic that "she is trying not to be lynched must be scun" is really stupid. Town are self preservationists as well so
Im saying that you came out the gate swinging at xof and Ali hard defended her multiple times and you kept going at it, and then said you were trying to figure out if xof was a mason without asking which was really obvious, and then you tell her to protect her masons at all cost.

This is not a hard train of thought to follow and im getting tired of the fact that you dont seem able to have an emotionless conversation and are relying very heavily on ate and then claiming that people are stopping you from doing stuff.

Post how you wanna post if its an issue. Push who you wanna push if its an issue. Stop making excuses and being toxic in the thread.
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Post Post #1872 (isolation #140) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:01 pm

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In post 1823, Alisae wrote:my read on xof was that I really just didn't think Pine drafted her
coming out of retirement to play and out of touch with the meta?
REAAAAAAAALY didn't think Pine was going to draft that so I took my chances and hard softed her as my mason.

She's back on the table that lastest post was somethin else
This is interesting and kinda changes things wrt LLD. But apparently not according to a few posts later.

Ali, do you think LLDscum comes out like that in a bus on xofscum?
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Post Post #1873 (isolation #141) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:02 pm

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In post 1865, xRECKONERx wrote:boy howdy this is a fever dream
Remind me to tell you about a fever dream i had once, fucking crazy man.

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Post Post #1874 (isolation #142) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:03 pm

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In post 1618, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1595, Dannflor wrote:
In post 632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I have Xof!Scum dead to rights here, and you're calling her completely town. Is this a kneejerk reaction protecting a player you don't want to see die for personal reasons? Yes or No.
hm is this what you're talking about?

I read that more as having a very sure scum read and wanting to make sure Ali's defense wasn't for non-game related reasons

if that's not it can you quote the ultimatum for me?
Ali says back off:










LLD in 632:
In post 632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Alisae, my points on Xof are completely valid and fit well within the range of Pine's picks.

I want you to look me dead in the metaphorical internet eye and tell me this isn't just you being protective of a player who is coming back to the game after a time away from it.
In post 632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So, if you tell me this is for real and you actually town read Xof I will switch and find some other scumfuck to nail to the wall but know this
In post 632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I know you're town but that don't make you fucking god. I'm willing to play ball but if I find out you've just been straight lying to ensure I push reads you approve instead of reads you don't I swear to god I will treat you like Pine this game, cause you'll be more anti-town than he is.
In post 632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So let me ask this plainly

I have Xof!Scum dead to rights here, and you're calling her completely town. Is this a kneejerk reaction protecting a player you don't want to see die for personal reasons? Yes or No.
to which Ali replies
In post 653, Alisae wrote:I wanna get back to you on this later and I am kinda just saying atm “I read this but I can’t respond to it atm”
In post 1388, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:No kidding I was trying to talk to you. I wanted to fuckong know if your shit on Xof was a mason thing e
Without asking uou if she was a fuckong mason. I needed to know if she was town or just likable so i could pivot.
And then this from LLD. Anyone would be able to see that LLD is vaguely masking her question of xof mason, and Ali gives what looks like a difinitive answer by saying stop asking. Which shoulc have been evident with the above list of times Ali told people to back off.

LLD i dont know if you missed this or skipped it, but this also explains what I was saying in a pretty clear way.
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Post Post #1875 (isolation #143) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:04 pm

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You made my case better by then telling her to protect her masons at all costs.

Thanks for that.
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Post Post #1877 (isolation #144) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:04 pm

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BOOYAA! PAGETOP!
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Post Post #1880 (isolation #145) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:06 pm

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In post 1876, Alisae wrote:Yeah look at xof’s stance on LLD in thread.
That stance really sticks out like a sore thumb.
The tr on LLD was odd.

I had figured xof was a mason the way you hard defended like you did.
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Post Post #1881 (isolation #146) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:07 pm

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In post 1878, Alisae wrote:
In post 1762, xofelf wrote:I don't think that LLD is scum, I legitimately don't. Yes she is a force of goddamn nature who will do anything and everything to further her own win condition, but I think she's on our side. Her reactions to everything don't read to me like a caught scumLLD, but a genuinely frustrated and upset LLD who is feeling attacked and with only so much she can actually do to defend herself. I don't know anything about the role she's actually claimed, and it's possible that's a lie, but her behaviour just doesn't have the underlying feel to it when she's lying and manipulating to get one over on you.
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If you think this is xof defending lld then we should lynch xof first imo
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Post Post #1889 (isolation #147) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:15 pm

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In post 1882, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I am telling you my train of thought was the same both times.

And guess what, life and mafia are a game that involves emotions. Do what you want but don't tell me I am being toxic for... Lets see calling your logic stupid? Is that about it?

Fun fact. People got warned earlier this game. Explicitly I was told by the mod I wasn't included in one of them cause I didnt say shit and have continued to not do that. I have spoken my mind and heart and if you wanna play robot mafia thats chill but its not how I play so
Your train of thought was that the first thing you needed to do was mason hunt xof?

And i dont give a shit what you say to me because i dont have any connection to you, so its not being toxic to me, its the way you have acted almost the entire time you have been posting like you are some kind of victim here when you are the creator of your own situation, this is the bed you made and are now pissy about lying in it.

I dont want you to be a robot, and thats a nice mis rep, what I want from you is the ability to talk about this like a game, which it fucking is. I know we get heated and say some shit, ive been guilty of this myself many times. You however are stuck in 6th gear and are running down the highway towards a thelma and louise sytle ending.

You can take your foot of the gas and we can talk, or you can kick brad pitt out of the car and floor that fucker.

Your choice.
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Post Post #1895 (isolation #148) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:25 pm

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Alright, im done trying to talk to you. You keep doing you, i wish you well in future games and life in general.

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Post Post #1901 (isolation #149) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:31 pm

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In post 1898, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1895, Formerfish wrote:Alright, im done trying to talk to you. You keep doing you, i wish you well in future games and life in general.

VOTE: LLD
You keep being a condescending ray of sunshine too yeah?

Ride that high horse right into the sunset.

I answered your question with my full thoughts, for the third time, so I dont know what else you want.

Clearly you want me to be someone I am not, or perhaps you just like to tone police people?

That seems to fit tbh. Tone policing language and how people talk fits the condescending shit.
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Post Post #1908 (isolation #150) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:33 pm

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Post Post #1931 (isolation #151) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:52 pm

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In post 1915, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
You know, I am sure you think you are clever and a good person but if anyone is being toxic at this very moment it's you.

At leasy have the guts to own the fact you are insulting anf ridiculing me. Don't hide behind some mask of being a halfway decent person.

Like holy fuck if you are just gonna take pot h
Shots like this you are a spineless jerk.
This one literally had nothing to do with you. Glad to know you are just on tilt and anything that seems like it might be derogatory towards you you are just going to assume it is, so again no need to talk to you because all you see is red right now.

Youre funny though, thinking that i care enough about you to keep it up after the first one where i quoted you, notice you didnt say anything about that one. is that because it was obvious in that one and then you felt triggered?
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Post Post #1942 (isolation #152) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:58 pm

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LLD if you did anything other than talk shit I would treat you differently, but you just scum or shitty pissed off town. No one can tell, and all you are doing is doubling and tripling down. Its exhausting reading your posts at this point because its just fake rage spewing like froth from your mouth.

Keep making ad hom attacks, thats classy and totally game relevant.
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Post Post #1945 (isolation #153) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:01 pm

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https://www.merriam-webster.com/diction ... h-dict-box

check out definition 3 of the verb.
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Post Post #1947 (isolation #154) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:01 pm

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In post 1943, Alisae wrote:
In post 1942, Formerfish wrote:LLD if you did anything other than talk shit I would treat you differently, but you just scum or shitty pissed off town. No one can tell, and all you are doing is doubling and tripling down. Its exhausting reading your posts at this point because its just fake rage spewing like froth from your mouth.

Keep making ad hom attacks, thats classy and totally game relevant.
I'm going to ask you to stop now
Are you asking us both, or just me?

Because i dont think i have said anything about LLD the person, while she is making personal attacks against me that is not game relevant at all.
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Post Post #1950 (isolation #155) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:03 pm

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In post 1949, Alisae wrote:
In post 1947, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1943, Alisae wrote:
In post 1942, Formerfish wrote:LLD if you did anything other than talk shit I would treat you differently, but you just scum or shitty pissed off town. No one can tell, and all you are doing is doubling and tripling down. Its exhausting reading your posts at this point because its just fake rage spewing like froth from your mouth.

Keep making ad hom attacks, thats classy and totally game relevant.
I'm going to ask you to stop now
Are you asking us both, or just me?

Because i dont think i have said anything about LLD the person, while she is making personal attacks against me that is not game relevant at all.
the more you engage her the more you get personally attacked
So trying to play the game in a controlled manner gets me personally attacked and thats my fault.

Ok.
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Post Post #1954 (isolation #156) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:05 pm

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this is what i have for Pink Ball:

, no.
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Post Post #1988 (isolation #157) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:32 pm

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In post 1980, Krazy wrote:wait you did and I literally just suck

I think I need to have a drink or something before trying to form sentences or get a grip on this game
Passes my bowl to Krazy, still got some green in there for you.
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Post Post #1989 (isolation #158) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:34 pm

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Anyone watching Wu Assassin? Fuckin FIRE.
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Post Post #2030 (isolation #159) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:47 pm

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@MOD- When you get time my man, UT and Sky are still listed on the vote count
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Post Post #2044 (isolation #160) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:03 pm

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In post 2040, Aristophanes wrote:But no, I'm actually being srs in my posts now.
In post 2038, Aristophanes wrote:Ewww what a fake post!
This was a serious post?
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Post Post #2048 (isolation #161) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:06 pm

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Alright its too hot and im sweating just sitting here reading. Its time for a shower and a beer. A shower beer.
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Post Post #2050 (isolation #162) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:07 pm

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In post 2047, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 2045, Alisae wrote:Ye fire can be town
Pink Ball vote LLD?
I'm saving it for the hammer, you know I love hammering
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Post Post #2051 (isolation #163) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:08 pm

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Dude, im not even trying to murder these pagetops, but they keep falling.
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Post Post #2063 (isolation #164) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:13 pm

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In post 2053, Titus wrote:Howdy, what's up?
Hi Titus, long time.
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Post Post #2069 (isolation #165) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:18 pm

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In post 2059, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 2055, Jingle wrote:
In post 2034, Pink Ball wrote:For real, how about love?
Jingle I fucking love you, I was thinking about this song when I answered Gamma. Ewan McDaddy
Listen, come what may, I will love you, until my dying daaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Post Post #2073 (isolation #166) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:20 pm

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In post 2065, Aristophanes wrote:In fact, everyone, I am pleading!

DON'T
LYNCH
LLD
TODAY!

They will sort themself out later in the game!
Do NOT do it D1!

This shit cray.

And Lexi,
I think you should commute tonight.
Honestly and truthfully I do!


Now to finish catching up.

Guys this seems legit, maybe we should listen.
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Post Post #2078 (isolation #167) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:23 pm

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In post 2068, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 2050, Formerfish wrote:
In post 2047, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 2045, Alisae wrote:Ye fire can be town
Pink Ball vote LLD?
I'm saving it for the hammer, you know I love hammering
I'd love you to explain your thought process 'cause I have mixed feelings about this
You saying you loved hammering reminded me of this video for some reason, so I posted it. I do this.
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Post Post #2082 (isolation #168) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:25 pm

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its a comedy sketch gamma
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Post Post #2086 (isolation #169) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:27 pm

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In post 2085, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 2078, Formerfish wrote:You saying you loved hammering reminded me of this video for some reason, so I posted it. I do this.
I like you and your brain
I could have gone here too
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Post Post #2090 (isolation #170) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:33 pm

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In post 2088, Aristophanes wrote:Just listen to me maybe? I almost never take hard stances like this.
What have you done this game to gain any type of credibility that you would think this ask gets taken into account?

I wasn't joking when i said all of your posts feel fake, and now you are begging us to not lynch. Does scum you do this? Ill drink the wine in front of me thank you. Maybe LLD is important to the scum team and you are trying your best to save her, maybe you are white knighting a dying townie as she goes down for cred to be used tomorrow, i dont know.

I do know that nothing you have done today give you the ability to ask this cart blanch of people.

When you do take "hard" stances, what are you scum or town?
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Post Post #2099 (isolation #171) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:43 pm

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In post 2097, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also why would LLD not commute
I think the idea is that is LLD doesnt commute someone on the townside can do something to check her and clear or damn her.

And she can prove shes not ascetic too.
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Post Post #2104 (isolation #172) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:46 pm

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In post 2100, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 2090, Formerfish wrote:
In post 2088, Aristophanes wrote:Just listen to me maybe? I almost never take hard stances like this.
What have you done this game to gain any type of credibility that you would think this ask gets taken into account?

I wasn't joking when i said all of your posts feel fake, and now you are begging us to not lynch. Does scum you do this? Ill drink the wine in front of me thank you. Maybe LLD is important to the scum team and you are trying your best to save her, maybe you are white knighting a dying townie as she goes down for cred to be used tomorrow, i dont know.

I do know that nothing you have done today give you the ability to ask this cart blanch of people.

When you do take "hard" stances, what are you scum or town?
I mean, both wines were poisoned so...

But really, I actually started going through people and giving reads on them. I've been interacting with the present content, did a little dance with you, answered questions. I've been playing.

I'm sorry that I have a fake feel. I have had people tell me that as town, as scum, as a poster in the speakeasy, on discord, on my old site, on the one before that, heck, even irl sometimes. I just have a fake tone about me a lot of the time. It's just the way it is. I can't help it! Sorry about that, but I literally cannot change it.

If LLD and I were on the same scumteam, this would be so extremely idiotic Pine would probably shoot me himself. If I were scum doing a whiteknighting, well that would be impressive but this would be way too far!

I never take hard stances like this because it's never taken seriously. Even as IC I don't take hard stances. As scum I cower from threads most times, so like, as if I would take hard stances.

It's very out of character and I'm trying something new. I am town. Give me a chance, extend that chance to LLD. That's literally all I ask.

I hear you and feel you feel this, but its just not landing with me. Sorry. I tried to sort her.
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Post Post #2109 (isolation #173) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:49 pm

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In post 2105, Dannflor wrote:on the other hand if she is a scum commuter

she commutes anyway

and then we're in the exact same position tomorrow
Commuter is a decent fake claim even if shes making it up entirely.

I mean with the claims id feel like if it werent lld right now it would be mast under the microscope and either needs to die to kinda sort the other.
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Post Post #2113 (isolation #174) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:50 pm

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In post 2106, Aristophanes wrote:LLD should commute. To not commute is idiotic and to check her is a waste of resources.
How do you not see that this is a scummy post?

You are literally saying to leave it up to her day play when so far she has questioned why she signed up for the game.
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Post Post #2114 (isolation #175) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:51 pm

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In post 2111, Aristophanes wrote:"Carthago Delenda Est"
Ive never tried that before, is that with the goat or sheep?
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Post Post #2118 (isolation #176) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:56 pm

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In post 2116, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 2114, Formerfish wrote:
In post 2111, Aristophanes wrote:"Carthago Delenda Est"
Ive never tried that before, is that with the goat or sheep?
Goat, always XD
Wait, i did do that one time in college. fraternity initiation.
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Post Post #2148 (isolation #177) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:35 pm

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In post 2119, Aristophanes wrote:Regardless, that is fucking enty of time tk get another wagon up to a lynch, and Ali has already backed at least 5 names, including having a Vig list!
Im not sure if i love this.

My view is this, if we are just going to eventually lynch lld because there is no way to clear her (scum could have a way to fuck with anything we try to do with her anyway), then we should lynch her today because wagoning another person has a chance to also out a pr if lld is telling the truth, or allows scum to slip by a lynch and then we l=mislynch the next wagon becase it gets close to deadline and well, we didnt do lld before, i suppose we do x now...
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Post Post #2155 (isolation #178) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:42 pm

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In post 2151, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I accept I need to die this game, and early. So let me lynch until I hit town. If you think I'm scum and I'm lynching scum, you'll still lynch me later. Let me bus yeah?
I dont like JJH for scum, and dont trust you or Ari enough to change that, Goofballs hasnt posted enough to make his alignment known
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Post Post #2156 (isolation #179) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:43 pm

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In post 2153, Aristophanes wrote:And LLD Should Not Be Lynched
Can you give a reason other than you dont think she is scum?
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Post Post #2171 (isolation #180) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:50 pm

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In post 2158, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2156, Formerfish wrote:
In post 2153, Aristophanes wrote:And LLD Should Not Be Lynched
Can you give a reason other than you dont think she is scum?
?!?!?!?!

AS IF HE NEEDS ANOTHER REASON WHAT
I mean considering he is just asking us to trust him, yeah, im looking for a reason to say you are town, and not to just say that if you are town you are good for us.
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Post Post #2183 (isolation #181) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:56 pm

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In post 2175, Iconeum wrote:But chennis is actually scum
Ive heard there might be upwards of 6 scumbags we can murder.
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Post Post #2194 (isolation #182) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:02 pm

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In post 2190, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 2156, Formerfish wrote:
In post 2153, Aristophanes wrote:And LLD Should Not Be Lynched
Can you give a reason other than you dont think she is scum?
We're literally lynching her because of her role, which is hugely helpful if true, and not on her play. The wagon started because she was asked to hold back her rage, which by the way she is doing fantastically, and that set her tone slightly awry, as it would. Every push afterwards has been based on role not play, and the doubling down from a lot of the players here has been really shitty.

LLD will show us she is town if she is. I am firmly in that camp. And she has done nothing scummy. She is a huge player and top guality at this! We are throwing away a great thing by doing this!


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She has consistently avoided talking to me directly about her play around xof and Ali from the start of her posting.

The idea that she was mason hunting in an obvious way and then she does a 180 and tells Ali to protect her masons no matter what is bonkers.

But i just get brushed aside and discounted without being taken seriously at all and actually addressing the issue i brought up.
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Post Post #2223 (isolation #183) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:16 pm

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In post 2220, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2214, Alisae wrote:IconWhats town about a full unrestricted commuter?And why do you give it to a hot head, who isn’t always super obvtown, doesn’t have the best reads, but is strong when it comes to game sense?Why do you give a super powerscum scum player a full commuter when they’re town? Especially since Jingle is townsiding here.
Ali that's my point! It's not really a towny claim. It's just not. But she claimed it anyway, while far away from being lynched.

LLD. Claimed. A. Role. That. Would. Draw. Attention.

Why would scum!LLD do that?
Icon did we have a scum game together recently?
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Post Post #2234 (isolation #184) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:20 pm

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In post 2232, Iconeum wrote:We played as scum together in that yolo all vig something game?
Yes we did, can you tell the class what Carl did in that game?
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Post Post #2238 (isolation #185) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:22 pm

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In post 2235, GreyICE wrote:My friend, sometimes you have to set aside your ego, and at least consider that other people might have a point.
Sorry Icon, but this is deja vu mate. You got snowed in the same with with whathisslut in our game and i wanted to murder you.
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Post Post #2246 (isolation #186) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:25 pm

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In post 2243, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2238, Formerfish wrote:Sorry Icon, but this is deja vu mate. You got snowed in the same with with whathisslut in our game and i wanted to murder you.
oooh you mean the game where you wanted to kill me really badly (i was town) and where scum had me pocketed so deeply I could feel his balls?
yeah, the one where i had scum down to you or the actual scum and i didnt care about you because you fought me tooth and nail when you were so snowed you were killed in the avalanche
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Post Post #2249 (isolation #187) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:27 pm

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Ico, This is one of those games where you need to realize that you dont know stuff and that other people who seem to know stuff, like Ice, are telling you a thing. Listen to the thing, and be smug tomorrow if Ice is wrong.

Use the wagon to hunt and find scum. Like the game is played each and every time
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Post Post #2253 (isolation #188) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:31 pm

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I wonder if we could do the stages of grief

I know weve seen anger
And sadness
weve seen bargaining
Denial?
A few glimpses of acceptance?
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Post Post #2258 (isolation #189) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:32 pm

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In post 2255, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 2249, Formerfish wrote:Ico, This is one of those games where you need to realize that you dont know stuff and that other people who seem to know stuff, like Ice, are telling you a thing. Listen to the thing, and be smug tomorrow if Ice is wrong.

Use the wagon to hunt and find scum. Like the game is played each and every time
Oof not a fan of this tbh.

Ya know when someone said "hey Ali, telling us not to think for ourselves and assuming dominance is kinda shitty"? (Honestly forget who, feels like a lifetime ago.) Well this is very similar. Just saying.

And also, just because people have some meta doesn't make them perfect. I mean, really. So just stuff to consider.

Thanks man.


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You dont have to be a fan, Icon knows what is behind that post and why i made it towards him, you can go back to being irrelevant.
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Post Post #2266 (isolation #190) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:37 pm

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In post 2262, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 2258, Formerfish wrote:You dont have to be a fan, Icon knows what is behind that post and why i made it towards him, you can go back to being irrelevant.
I thought I was being pretty relevant actually. Did I leave anything unanswered? And point unmade?

Whatever tho. It is 2:35am and I should probably sleep. Maybe I'll do that.


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Itll give you time to pop that blanket in the dryer.
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Post Post #2270 (isolation #191) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:40 pm

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In post 2267, Alisae wrote:
In post 2255, Aristophanes wrote:Ya know when someone said "hey Ali, telling us not to think for ourselves and assuming dominance is kinda shitty"? (Honestly forget who, feels like a lifetime ago.)
THAT LLD ARI
LLD also made a comment alluding to the fact that she thinks that the only reason people are voting her at all is because we are sheeping Ali, which is a big mis rep
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Post Post #2275 (isolation #192) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:42 pm

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In post 2269, Iconeum wrote:You were wrong about me in that particular game and your obsession and unwillingness to reconsider your read lead to me being pocketed. I don't easily sheep, especially when I have a read of my own. I am not voting someone for these terrible reasons, and would much rather prefer going after the likes of Chennis who are literally standing in the shadows of a tree right now.
Not relitigating it, but you were pocketed before i showed up, you and your scum buddy were backed up against the wall fighting off the whole world. Then we lynched a hidden scummer and it was between you and the actual scum.

You couldnt get out of your own way and it almost lost us that game.
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Post Post #2281 (isolation #193) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:53 pm

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In post 2181, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:People don't need to obey Alisae btw.

You can think for yourselves.


Leashing me for one day makes the most sense here.
This is where you accuse people of being sheep to Alis whistle
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Post Post #2283 (isolation #194) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:54 pm

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In post 2276, Aristophanes wrote:Who cares about whatever other game you're discussing and why does it matter here?


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Hey Ari, I was talking to Icon, if you dont understand the conversation ask a question or shut the fuck up about it.
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Post Post #2286 (isolation #195) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:56 pm

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In post 2277, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2275, Formerfish wrote:Not relitigating it, but you were pocketed before i showed up, you and your scum buddy were backed up against the wall fighting off the whole world. Then we lynched a hidden scummer and it was between you and the actual scum.You couldnt get out of your own way and it almost lost us that game.
Not how I remember that game tho. It wasn't until you stepped in I actually buddied up there (or got buddied, whatever). I also remember the game having a mech solve but you being too stubborn to accept it because it involved lynching you first and we almost lost the game because of that :)

So please, don't twist that game to fit your narrative here
If we have a mech solve then there is no chance of loss because it was solved, I was bitter because I wanted to lynch the scum and you guys wouldnt sack up for it so i had to suicide to prove to you who was scum.
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Post Post #2287 (isolation #196) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:57 pm

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In post 2279, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 2278, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2276, Aristophanes wrote:Who cares about whatever other game you're discussing and why does it matter here?


And LLD Should Not Be Lynched
Me and FF care. Especially when it's being used as a means to puppet me.
NP, carry on then. Sorry for stepping in the way of it.

Not even gonna sign this one. My bad guys.
I called you a wet blanket for things like this, you are just backing down at the first sight of any conflict right now.
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Post Post #2288 (isolation #197) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:58 pm

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In post 2285, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2281, Formerfish wrote:
In post 2181, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:People don't need to obey Alisae btw.

You can think for yourselves.


Leashing me for one day makes the most sense here.
This is where you accuse people of being sheep to Alis whistle
It's where I respond to Alisae's increasing pressure telling people to just vote me and end the day before X pages with "people don't need to obey Alisae, you can think for yourselves".

It's almost like actions have reactions and I have motivations for mine!

It's not the only reason people are voting me.

But it is one.

So i'm telling people they can ignore that one and consider other options.
Funny how I can pull up a thing for what you accused me of lying about to support what I thought. Guess its hard to keep track when youre scum flailing trying whatever ate bullshit you can to stay alive.
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Post Post #2290 (isolation #198) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:59 pm

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In post 2274, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:How the fuck can this dude just lie and like people believe it
I guess i have a better memory than you do.
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Post Post #2298 (isolation #199) » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:04 pm

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In post 2292, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:You did lie tho.

I suppose not a lie, a misrepresentation.

My apologies for the wrong word.

Speaking of wrong words

That's not what ATE means you idiot.

None of this is an appeal to emotion. lmfao
I took your post to mean you felt that people were just voting you because Ali endorsed you. Which is what I said, thats not a lie, its an interpretation.

And i havent called you names when i could, so the idiot is unnecessary, and ate is when you appeal to peoples emotions, you have been doing that this entire time with your woe is me shtick, and even your husband has called you out for it and said its obvious and you need to stop it.

So you are engaging in the use of ate to appeal to use emotionally to not lynch you, not because your town or not scum but because it would just mean so much to you if we gave you a chance to play. Golly gee, its so heartwarming i could cry,
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