Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

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The Autonomous Republic of Gemstones stands at attention.
VOTE: Firebringer
I sense Pine would be extra incentivized to get a bringer of fire under his thumb.

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If you're thinking about eating that fruit do a reverse Google image search of that image

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Question about the fruit though: how often are you allowed to give them, Pine?

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VOTE: fb

Can we try to remember the thing about limiting hyperposting

Yeah like FB also has been kinda anti spam as a mod so :noneck:

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I have the first few ready to go, but I have decided to hold off for 24 hours, let us settle in a bit.

Oh ho, I don't even have to ask because you seen perfectly okay revealing it yourself!

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If you're thinking about eating that fruit do a reverse Google image search of that image

I'm pretty sure Jingle said all of the images come from Yoshi Story, Super Mario Sunshine, or Paper Mario. As far as I can tell, they're just flavor.

Nah the image you posted and made your avatar returned "poison apple" when I did a reverse GIS of it.

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Oh cool getting some original art in this bizznasty
Also if we're going to implement a countermeasure to hyper posting this is worth considering

Subject: Amnesiac Mafia: The Very First Edition (Game Over Already?)

The Experiment

As noted in the sign-up thread; during the first Day Phase (and only the first) we will be running a posting experiment.

At the conclusion of the first Day Phase, players who have post counts that are significantly variable from the median post count will be punished by being given the Hated modifier for the following Day Phase. I will be using Median Absolute Deviation to calculate this.

It is possible that no player will have a significantly varied post count from the rest of the players.

This section of the rules will be coded with the strikethrough BBcode when it is no longer in effect.

This method doesn't punish high activity, only activity higher than normal. If you also want to implement it to punish lurkers that's your prerogative but I just wanted to throw this out here

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How will we know the abilities? I think Pine said he'd announce them when he's ready, was that true?

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I mean he did state one fruit is an Informed effect, maybe we can use that as our test dummy.
PEdit: where the hell did you find that

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Watermelon - This fruit makes the user bulletproof for a night but also makes it so they take one less vote to lynch (they aren't informed of this)
Red Apple - This fruit allows a player to use a one shot tracker at night. The downside is that scum will know who you visited. (aren't informed of this)
Banana - This fruit gives user double voting power when eaten. It also tells scum what role they are when eaten. (arent informed of this)

Actually I think this makes it BS

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If Fire is town he shouldn't be able to see that even if he did get into on them. If he was scum he wouldn't be telling us that stuff. Therefore it's purely untrue.

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I played paper mario, never played the others.

I think I've beaten all of those games minus Paper Nario if that means the n64 one

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VOTE: Aristophanes
Last game, Pine first picked Aristophanes to be scum.
Pine would never do the same thing twice.
Therefore, Aristophanes is scum.

My logic is flawless.

I mean your logic makes no sense but there's a way you're right

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Skygazer
MariaR
Gamma Emerald
Firebringer
Chickadee
xofelf
chennisden
Dannflor
PenguinPower
Formerfish
Menalque
Pink Ball
Untrod Tripod
Katsuki
GreyICE
Lady Lambdadelta
Krazy
popsofctown
DrippingGoofball
Ankamius
jjh
Aristophanes

It's a bit early for a readlist

this is Mastina you're talking to

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I'm at a point in my life where playing a 27p game is too much for me so I'll be lurking until this game gets down to a more manageable number, maybe like 11ish.

See y'all then!

To be honest this is because mods thought it'd be funny to give me a post restriction so.

I could totally see the post restriction being real

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Mario RPG best paper mario don't @ me

This take is acceptable

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not hold as strong a scumread on FB as I had hoped.

Why did you hope to scumread FB

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If Claire is scum she's not making it to endgame

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There is no actual reason to ask Alisae any questions

This seems uh wrong

Also hi Ank & Krazy I promise not to pull the "hard town read you and then almost lol-lynch you in Lylo..."

probably

omg lol

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If Claire is scum she's not making it to endgame

Oh how many people have said this. How many have been wrong too. Don’t worry, pine most likely drafts for entertainment and I’m not an entertaining scum pick considering how good I am at it. I do expect Maria paranoia at one point but it won’t be early. So, logically I didn’t even need to respond to this but It made me laugh so I had to.
Side note Ali I would never stab you. You’re pretty confident in your ability to read me so we should have no worries hopefully

Also I like this post

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If Claire is scum she's not making it to endgame

Oh how many people have said this. How many have been wrong too. Don’t worry, pine most likely drafts for entertainment and I’m not an entertaining scum pick considering how good I am at it. I do expect Maria paranoia at one point but it won’t be early. So, logically I didn’t even need to respond to this but It made me laugh so I had to.
Side note Ali I would never stab you. You’re pretty confident in your ability to read me so we should have no worries hopefully

Also I like this post

I don't even understand this post

What did you like about it

Actually thinking on it I actually don't like it
I feel like town Maria would have blown up a little

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My overarching strategy in this game will be to lynch lurkers.

Interesting take, does that include those stuck being behind?

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Im thinking scum need to get away with asking for fruit.

I thought about that. But Pine also has incentive to give town fruit to make people question why Pine would pick them. There's risk involved for both parties. Asking for fruit doesn't make anyone scum.

Can we not? This feel like a particularly strong case of wine. Like some Madiera.

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This is a silly limit btw. You're expecting people to post twice a real life day on average and be done

Pretty sure he means you should only make 2 pages of posts (50 posts by default) a day. You're fine currently.

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Twilights will last 24 hours after the hammer, during which the hammered player may continue to post.

Just noticed this tidbit. We might want to let that 24 hours be a catch up period for those who may be behind.

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yaaaaaasss Nightcore is a guilty pleasure of mine

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Obviously Pine doesn't agree
Either that or Jingle liked me better for some godforsaken reason

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I'm not saying I wouldn't do well as scum, just stating the facts lol (or am I?)
Also do you have access to the masonry yourself? If so I'm truly honored.

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Well I did recently ball out in PFUP but Pine didnt see that most likely

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Off the top of my head
FB scummy
MariaR nullscum
Katsuki null but I'm not lynching her today
Pink Ball gut town

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Dude
Should I be worried of people jumping on firebringer?
I’m starting to get a bit worried

Probably not, it's a big game
I'd honestly ask for a private PT for the game but I'm on good pace to do the "50 posts per IRL day" thing and if I have to compress posting later I can multiquote

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Fruit is a game mechanic, read the OP

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Uhhhh
This is pretty good scumhunting music.

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According to my dossier, you are solitary, highly skilled, enigmatic, and opaque to read. You're a bulldog, tenacious, and you have the audacity to pull off (frankly) epic gambits.

Seems like an oversell...
Also, not really gonna read the rest of this yet

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I just got a message and now I'm scared

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Ooh mastina and chennisden are the Masons huh?

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Should probably start reading this now

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Spoiler: through page 14

Like Gamma and pops a tiny tiny bit. I actually like Ank a tiny bit too. Got a small warm fuzzy from Fireb's opening posts. Leaving on a ferry now gl remember to lynch Ari d1

I don't really like pops all that much off p2ish (but I love her as a person <3) but Gamma is still town!Gamma. Ank is somewhere in null/nulltown.

Dude
Should I be worried of people jumping on firebringer?
I’m starting to get a bit worried

I don't feel all that worried about it. Don't overthink it too much.

I'm feeling like worstie is town

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Vote:Xof

I don't like this read at all at a glance. Xof has what, 2 posts? Why do you already have a massive wall case against her?

People who aren't LLD shouldn't be voting Xof in fact, it's quite scummy if they do so.

Why is LLD not included?

i assumed you meant 2 pages for the entire game per gameday, im drunk

What does drunkenness matter? If you weren't a Mason this would be sketchy.

I love you danny boi

and I love you random citizen

You're all breathtaking!

B) Unless you're LLD you have no reason to vote xof because it's a meta read. You should be waiting for them to post more

Ah thanks

what reason does scumstina have to claim it

why would Jingle give this role to her

Why does only scumstina claim a fake role?

Tl;dr reads
Lexi scummy
worstie town
Anything expressed before probably still stands
Also think Dann is town

~BBCode enabled. Jingle

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What the actual fuck

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Yeah and my post had 0 errors as I can see rn
HELP
FYI I'm not doing more until that's fixed

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Thanks Jingle

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Also since we're sharing messages mine said Pine felt I was too obvious. Guess I brought that on myself by telling him to do it I sign ups.

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I'm officially way behind
Hooray for video games!

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Hey im a survivor now! Is that what I get for going over 10k in posts? Who do i have to double dutch rudder to get a fucking nickname up in this piece?

pedit- no one should ever use a marathon game as a reason to ever read anyone ever. not even in other marathon games.

Yeah, the base titles are based in post count. If you want a custom title you need to get one from the Title Fairy thread, but someone else to nominate it, you're not allowed to try to push it, pretty much the only input you can give is whether you like it or not

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I'm officially way behind
Hooray for video games!

bruh watchu playin

Fire Emblem Heroes
I didn't expect to get hooked back in like I have but for now I'm a happy captive

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What the hell.
Pops probably town at least

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chennis my boy instead of shading me why don't you talk about it in a little more depth?

Isn't chennis one of the masons? This looks like a bad post if so. Also yeah I'm not pushing much because I'm behind, way to go after an easy target
VOTE: Iconeum

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I saw it from a mastina post

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And like if I'm wrong then whatever but it looks pretty bad from Iconeum, plus going after me like that is bad too

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chennis my boy instead of shading me why don't you talk about it in a little more depth?

Isn't chennis one of the masons? This looks like a bad post if so. Also yeah I'm not pushing much because I'm behind, way to go after an easy target
VOTE: Iconeum

they claimed?

also easy target? did you read my early case on him?

I mean that I'm an easy target because I'm behind

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come at me if you think i'm making up cases against you

but don't both of you just stand there calling my cases on you bad and then scumreading me for it

And like my problem is you picked a point that was true, but had no real scum motivation if you actually bothered to think about it, which feels like not really trying because you don't need to

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I mean that I'm an easy target because I'm behind

but you posting stuff that pinged me, has nothing to do with you being behind?

The things that pinged you seem to be originating from that root cause.

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I mean that I'm an easy target because I'm behind

but you posting stuff that pinged me, has nothing to do with you being behind?

You quoted a post, say you townread it. Then you come back and go 'hey i was only kidding i'm totally scumreading that post'. Then you put Maria as nullscum but you don't engage or anything over it. Feels to me like posting reads for the sake of posting reads and not wanting to get stuck with a townread you can't hold up.

Saying I posted this because you are an easy target for being behind is bleh.

I didn't see any mention of it. I have MariaR as nullscum because while I don't really like that reaction it's just one thing. Read obviously subject to change when I finish catching up.

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Actually just had another scroll through her ISO and fuckit
VOTE: jjh

What

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Sure. First I'll be hit with a more restrictive post restriction, and if that escalates, it may lead to Alisae's death.

What is your post restriction? You didnt answer the first question.

It's not real (maybe), it's a thing Katsuki does to, like, lower expectations early

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Actually just had another scroll through her ISO and fuckit
VOTE: jjh

What

I mean, this actually makes a lot of sense XD

What is the connection between jjh and LLD

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Expect stuff from me later today

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At what time, Gamma? I still want to talk to you

Like an hour I hope

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Also Ffish please get the stick out of your ass about Katsuki's "post restriction"

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At what time, Gamma? I still want to talk to you

Like an hour I hope

Oof I'm disappearing in 3 minutes

If you post what you want to talk about I'll respond when I have the ability to

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Also Ffish please get the stick out of your ass about Katsuki's "post restriction"

Dont tell me what to focus on. What i eat doesnt make you shit. Its a question I want an answer to, but its not at the top of my list for importance on or even interest in pushing there right now.

Keep stepping in front me me and her and imma start to think a certain way about it.

Well from my experience it's completely irrelevant to Katsuki's alignment so I'm seeing you pushing NAI things and it frustrates me
Anyway, time to do catch up things. Idk if I can go all the way but I'll damn well try
And since I'm using a computer today there shouldn't be any misclicking the "diasable BBCode" button

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Spoiler: Pages 15 through 20

Also
think I'll go back to

VOTE: Krazy

I think I've seen you vote this multiple times. Why?
tbh I don't know how to read Krazy despite playing with him several times.

Chaos is a bad idea

Chaos is a ladder. Get it right.

Yes and that is why you have been giving us information to try to indicate that we can't leash this mechanic

Truth: this mechanic is designed to resist leashing

oh I’m sure I can outplay you

But can you outwit or outlast him?

Chaos Chaos! Embrace the chaos!

Is ThIs A dElTaRuNe ReFeReNcE?

VOTE: v/la til 14th
obviously still be around because I'm me
would appreciate a better pace than this

game isn't going that fast, and worst would only be complaining like this if he has difficulty keeping up from a scum mindset. Just from outside worst has no problem keeping up with heavily active games as town, even if he is busy, this game also isn't that busy which is hilarious that i am seeing people go "ohh god the speed of this game".

Bitch, you people don't know what a fast pace game. This is what 15 pages in nearly 2 days now? Ive seen games that had 96 pages in 24 fucking hours. Cry me a river.

Like Gamma and pops a tiny tiny bit. I actually like Ank a tiny bit too. Got a small warm fuzzy from Fireb's opening posts. Leaving on a ferry now gl remember to lynch Ari d1

Empty posting.

bargain: lemon

bargain: fruit

idk which one of these I'm meant to be posting

This seems out of character and weird to do from his mindset? Where did "lime" come from exactly? Almost seems like hidden info unless pine mentioned something about it and I am a derp. Unless worstie is in a trolly mood i don't think he risks the bargain this early with so little info, thats something i do, not him.

Like Gamma and pops a tiny tiny bit. I actually like Ank a tiny bit too. Got a small warm fuzzy from Fireb's opening posts. Leaving on a ferry now gl remember to lynch Ari d1

I don't really like pops all that much off p2ish (but I love her as a person <3) but Gamma is still town!Gamma. Ank is somewhere in null/nulltown.

Dude
Should I be worried of people jumping on firebringer?
I’m starting to get a bit worried

I don't feel all that worried about it. Don't overthink it too much.

more empty posting.


WORSTIE IS A GOOD WAGON

Disagreee. Honestly worstie reminds me of his play in The Thread TItle Sucked, so why do you think he's scum? Also he said lemon not lime?

Alisae

do you have a rough read for how much presence the scumteam has had so far?

I like this question

Firebringer is having the time of his life right now

Is that AI for Fire, genuinely interested.

And with that, it’s time for the first fruit to be offered!

The first available fruit will grant the consumer a 1-shot Neighborizer ability.

This shot must be used the night after it is received. It will open a PT between the user and a target of their choice, which will be active for the rest of the game.

This is the image associated with the fruit:

Can I neighborize Alisae or Pine?

You may bargain with me now. If I understand Jingle correctly, the syntax is

Bargain: Neighborizer

. I will then either grant you the fruit, require a service, or impose a condition. If the fruit is not immediately granted, you may choose to accept my bargain, make a counter-offer, or reject it entirely.

I will ALWAYS bargain in good faith.

Good to know.

Like Gamma and pops a tiny tiny bit. I actually like Ank a tiny bit too. Got a small warm fuzzy from Fireb's opening posts. Leaving on a ferry now gl remember to lynch Ari d1

holy shit this looks HORRIBLE on a second read through

Okay you were also in The Thread Title Sucked so what am I missing?

neighborize is such a shit power, what are you possibly worried about?

scum team will hear chickadee and whoever she neighborize talk at night about bone drawings?

Well yes but actually no. In theory neighborize doesn't do much but in practice the hood members genreally end up TRing each other, making an all town hood pro-town and a hood with at least one scum in it pro-scum. For an example see how my neighbors in the NR.-ey Mystery Hood in Pokémon Fusion UPick.

at this point
every time I've played with pops I've read her wrong so...

Hm. Me and pops I think our first game together was a Making Friends and Enemies, were you in that one? I vaguely recall you being in it. Maybe you were the mod idek.

Ali

Where are you on Gamma Emerald

Because I could vote there

Why?

Ali

Where are you on Gamma Emerald

thats halfa humina

Uhhh what's a humina again

(btw trying to find this image almost led to me losing my responses to the previous pages but using Chrome history helped me at least get the posts I wanted to respond to back.

part of me thinks i can be this genuine as scum tho miss chickadee...

Kinda wanna TR this.

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Official song of this post.

Not really any reads but have some questions for Alisae, FB, Alyssa, jjh (who I want to start calling Splatlock rn), and Pine. Along with less serious questions to Alisae and Chickadee.

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okay that was to page 19 oops
next one will be 20-25

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OK
I guess I can get the early townread thing but why is opposite reads scummy

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Ali pls don't ignore my post
I liked what you sent me btw, that actually was very motivating

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But can you outwit or outlast him?

he definitely outwits me
im that that smart
thats also not really a secret >_<

Is that AI for Fire, genuinely interested.

nah not rly

Hm. Me and pops I think our first game together was a Making Friends and Enemies, were you in that one? I vaguely recall you being in it. Maybe you were the mod idek.

I modded a making friends and enemies for my first game
neither of you were in that I think
I don't remember I really don't play in the open queue that much

Uhhh what's a humina again

well the half was the "nah" part
and that was in reference to me not really being interested in u as a wagon

Thanks, all noted.

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Spoiler: 20-25

bargain: neighbourizer

Pine, if this hasn’t happened yet (as technically chicka hasn’t met their side of the bargain) can I get in on it instead?

why do you want it?

Not sure I like this. Seems to be freight training a certain course of events.

Because I don’t like chickadee asking for fruit immediately (I think twice because iirc it was her entrance too?), I don’t like how good the bargain pine’s giving her is, neighbouriser is like my favourite power theoretically and yet I never fucking get it

Also, VOTE: xof

Not totally sure I agree with LLD about the not engaging with pine thing but I thought the logic made sense from town because I’d been wondering about the same thing myself

I think this is a town post but I don't like the agreeing with LLD and callling her town because I honestly think that wall was scummy. Also why would ignoring Pine be scummy? Didn't someone else say to put flipped scum on ignore?

that might be the single most disgusting couple of posts I've seen in a while

Are you referring to me?

idunno how obvious I need to make it to establish that voting xolelf is not cool

Do you actually think that xof is town or you’re just looking forward to playing with them?

Xof
is
town

Is there an explainable logic to this? I have xof at no read rn but iirc xof only has one or two posts so I haven't really combed that hard for a read there.

I edited these to post in here:

The fruit are- 7 of them

Watermelon - This fruit makes the user bulletproof for a night but also makes it so they take one less vote to lynch (they aren't informed of this)
Red Apple - This fruit allows a player to use a one shot tracker at night. The downside is that scum will know who you visited. (aren't informed of this)
Banana - This fruit gives user double voting power when eaten. It also tells scum what role they are when eaten. (arent informed of this)
Grapes - This fruit is the informed mechanic. It basically informs the player to what roles aren't present in the game. Pine doesn't want this released to give them freedom in fake claiming
Black Apple - This fruit allows a player to give it to another and kill that player. Pine will probably use this for someone he knows will misfire.
Lime - Tastes bad. Fruit gives you ability to multitask.

This post is a townslip for Firebringer.

Both town Firebringer and scum Firebringer would create this list in an effort to look scummy. That is the way Firebringer plays mafia or something. I don't know.

But only townFirebringer would produce this list, because scumFirebringer would have consulted the scum PT. Would he have faked them or listed them totally inaccurately? I don't know. There is really no telling. His thought processes are literally made of magma.
But whether the list was genuine or fake, they'd be produced conscious of what was in the scum PT. He'd either make all of their flavor correct, or make none of the flavor correct. That's not my assumption based on me expecting scum!Firebringer to go through dramatic machinations to fool us, just what I think would be more cognitively convenient.

But this list is partially aligned with the likely images in the scum PT rather than fully disjoint or fully aligned. Yoshi's Story images would have been the easiest to obtain (we have one already), and it includes a Red Apple, Banana, Watermelon, and Grapes. I checked more carefully for Black Apple, but there's no Black Apples or Limes out there in any of the source games.

Particularly clinching is that Firebringer used the terms "Banana" and "Grapes". The sprite for bananas in Yoshi's Story depicts a bunch of three bananas, rather than just one. And "Grapes" shows he was not just blindly singularizing all of the items. He would have been more likely to say "Bananas"

At the end of the list, he has run out of creativity and used "apple" again, choosing a recolor. It's doubtful Jingle had to resort to any recolors, which would only be applicable for some of the berries in Paper Mario, so recolored fruit wouldn't be on his mind after looking in the PT. It's also doubtful that -even if- Firebringer decided "I'm going to make a list of seven fruits but I'll make some up and some will be real", that he would run out of ideas and need to resort to a recolor. He would have a five fruit head start because at least five of these were really visible in the PT. It is much more difficult if I give you seven minutes to name seven Presidents than it is if I give you seven minutes to name seven Presidents other than Abraham Lincoln, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Thomas Jefferson, and Rutherford B. Hayes.
This is probably my strongest townread in the game right now, I have a couple others. Firebringer has also been behaving protown in a couple other ways.

This is Insane Troll Logic but I think it's sound logic.

Am I obvtown enough to start building our mighty townbloc?

The whole scumteam is not posting while you guys scumread each other's asses, noobs.

Only exception is Gamma.

Alisae, fearing the worst, (...)

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Well, that was easy.

VOTE: the worst

Pink Ball gut town

CHENNISDEN WHY AREN'T YOU PUSHING ME DADDY

Wait so are you SR me for the gut town read on you? Also you SRing me probably makes you town because you seem to not have a handle on reading me rn if our last two games are an indication.

I'd be shocked if the scumteam was mostly in the least active players

Absolutely this. If I wanted to pick a scumteam, would I make it a bunch of Purples? No, you want real Game Changers.
(can you tell I'm on a Survivor kick)

the worst is obv scum

STOP
THIS
PLEASE
NOW

- If a player is old and came out of retirement to play, or is new and their play is still developing, they most likely were randed town
- If Pine doesn't have the meta knowledge or personal experience with a player, they are most likely town
- If Pine does not work well with them they are most likely town

From there, Pine has a smaller list of people that he can work with to try and assemble his dream team.

OK this is deffo wine. first off why does the first point exist? Pine joined in 2011, and came back in like 2016/2017, and afaict hasn't been inactive since. So why does not having played in a long time matter? I also see Pine as someone who'd be willing to take aleap of faith on a newer player, so the other half of that makes no sense. Also why is personal experience relevant, I think Pine is more than capable of doing research, plus I feel like if there was no personal experience they wouldn't be here. Only sensible point is the last one. I wouldn't want to clash with someone I'm trying to work with, that sounds like an unenjoyable experience. I think I recall a team with RC and Mathblade blowing up because they couldn't handle each other.

I am so confused on the idea lmm pace for this game. So far It has felt pretty ideal tbh. 25 pages a day is a lot, even with a large playerlist.

25 pages means 1 page per player no?

yeah but are we expected to make 25 posts a day? That's a fucktonne!

lol to the whole Ari chain of posts

if you're town i expect you to understand this conversation is unproductive and won't actually help you read me/vice versa.

if you're scum i expect you to understand that trying to mental gymnast your way into a scumread of me won't work.

how exactly am I supposed to take you sidestepping my question then?

that was the answer, not the sidestep.

k

I don't understand this interaction

Wendys

good choice

the worst and jjh are both scummy but the worst is a not-as-good wagon because he's 1. V/LA and 2. I know he has a good enough town game that it's worth not lynching him D1 regardless

also jjh im sad you did not debate me

Ali

Where are you on Gamma Emerald

Because I could vote there

bad bad bad

I think I've correctly read Gamma like... 5? times in a row now? probably actually statistically meaningless but regardless I'm gonna need you to explain your read there

Interesting, which games are your sample size? I haven't formed any opinions on your ability to read me at all so I want to see. I remember we played like a couple normals, and also MD rerun.

fuck you pine that arrow almost hit me

OOOOh, what did he tell you?

Skygazer
MariaR
Gamma Emerald
Firebringer
Chickadee
chennisden
Iconeum
Dannflor
PenguinPower
Formerfish
Menalque
Pink Ball
Lady Lambdadelta
Untrod Tripod
Katsuki
xofelf
GreyICE
the worst
Krazy
popsofctown
DrippingGoofball
Ankamius
jjh
Aristophanes

Talk about Maria, Ari, GreyICE, and PB pls

Oh Mastina is scum. Lawl.

Ez money ez mode.

Alright, I'm willing to hear you out on why Mastina is scum.

I like dragonfruit.

You called?

(I hope you're town so this image actually works out)

I knew signing up for this game was a good idea..
VOTE: mastina think I agree with you GreyICE

Why do you agree with GI?

Mastina please do what chennisden does with respect to your masonry PT.

OH
disregard all my mason talk lol

words words words

I feel like your reads are rather surface level. They seem genuine though here, so that kinda recolors my view of the posting I found scummy before.

Dann get's an early townread from me because he questions the same thing I saw with Chennis's posts regarding opportunism

Honestly I have Dann as town because I think he has a certain solviness here that he lacks as scum
Though I think I've only seen one Dann scumgame.

I don't really have a counterargument. I just want fruit. I know I'm town and that's good enough for me. I'm not here to be liked. I'm here to drown in a huge game, and god damn if I'm gonna drown and be miserable, I'm gonna eat fruit.

I don't dislike the plan of Ali suggesting fruit bargainers, but there's nothing to say Pine has to go for anyone Ali suggests. And Ali doesn't have all the answers anyway.

Chikadee's townread is more feel then the other ones. This post in particular feels very 'free flowing'. Not caring. No agenda. 'I'm not here to be liked'.
This is town doing it's own goddamn thing and the others can suck it if they don't like it. It reads like town to me I don't think I can put it any other way.

If scum are going to make up a reason to want fruit
They do what Chickadee is doing

Ali has a point and I agree with her side here, but idk if that invalidates the read.

I'm just as irked about you townreading me as I am Firebringer ftr duckling

If I townread you will you have a problem
I honestly think tw's townreads aren't bad, though Chick and GI are probably the weakest options.

---

wallpost songs

Questions for mastina, Dann, GreyICE, Menalque, Alyssa, tw
reads:
I like tw's townreads so those can pretty much be mine too
PB town
Ari kinda feels like town
may end up SRing mastina based on what GI says
Fire is in the void of null reading
SR on LLD and nullscum read on Maria haven't changed
(fyi these reads are partially to put pen to paper so I don't end up with nothing at the end, because I've had games where having no reads despite being present has really f***ed me)

[Gamma Emerald]

deffo not finishing everything today but want to be like halfway by the end

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: 26-30

Actually a little bit is wrong I'd rather talk to Gamma Emerald about why I thin Gamma Emerald could be scum

-_-
Is this why you wanted to talk to me? Why couldn't you have just posted it and waited for me to respond?

Mine was role play lols about the duck nation betraying the tree sovereignty but I'm pretty sure it's Pine abandoning his poor weak winged friends : /

yeeeey referencing the nation roleplay thread

If we don't leash mastina, she will just never shoot

Why? This conclusion feels semi-valid though.

I got a love letter from Pine. ahhhhhhh

Shhhhh

Why is DGB the only person you're Shooshing

holy fucking shit this is so many pages

I got a message from the mod saying that they wanted to mislynch me, so I'm guessing it was from scum? scum message sender is a hilarious fucking role.

it was from pine
you are most likely town tbh

I was honestly kind of offended Pine didn't draft me

you know I could see Pine drafting UT

I take it you didn't get a message, Ali? But I don't think UT did either

so I come back from being away and the first thing I say before I even catch up is fake having received a PM

yeah that tracks for scum to do. you got me. lynch away boys.

Don't think you faked it but I think you're kinda being weird
A little muted I guess.

VOTE: Menalque

Logically doesn't follow but logic is a bad way to get reads so I'll let it go

What.

I just wanna see ut's content please

This IS content

Doesn't matter where the journey begins

Good take

holy fucking shit this is so many pages

I got a message from the mod saying that they wanted to mislynch me, so I'm guessing it was from scum? scum message sender is a hilarious fucking role.

it was from pine
you are most likely town tbh

I was honestly kind of offended Pine didn't draft me

I'm also offended that Pine didn't draft me. It hurt me more when he lied in this thread and in my letter claiming he tried to draft me. I wish I was fruit IRL so he would have to be a real conifer who had the cones to tell it to me straight to my face instead of gaslighting me.

WHAT.

Duckling are you going the same strategy as you did in thread title sucks

This is kinda what I've been saying the whole time

Oh hey, we can “endorse” candidates?

VOTE: Firebringer

You give fruit
I can endorse candidates
fuck off my guy and let me have my only thing thats special to me

Can you endorse multiple?

So it stops being special, everyone got their own personal taunt (or dark contract) and all of them were signed identically.

Dark contract you say?

It seems I've been challenged to try a little harder by a certain friend. If you wish to play chess we can play some chess.

Tbh I kinda wanna play actual chess lol

my letter wasn't personal

what was it

Maria you dont sound like your town self.

But I agree with a lot of the points you're making. Who cares if it's RVS, you're accountable for your fucking votes

Also "dont try to read me until d2" isn't great

Tone reading me is probably the worst way you could ever try to read me. I don’t have a ‘town self’ tone. Nor do I have a ‘scum self’ tone. My tone changes whenever I feel like changing it. I act certain ways on purpose as either AI. The second part? Fair, you can try and read me today of course but you won’t get me lynched if you scumread me, so it’s more me saving you time.

what reason does scumstina have to claim it

It’s fake because Jingie never gives Mastina that role period. If you’re gonna give that type of role to someone in a hood with Pine it won’t be her of all people. You want someone with a dif style of play.

Thats actually not a question mastina
If i have a vig thats claiming its 100% getting leashed

Well, if I’m a vig you won’t leash me. But I think you already know I beat to my own drum. But don’t worry this isn’t really important because we know I’d never get picked to be a PR~

fb case on worst

VOTE: v/la til 14th
obviously still be around because I'm me
would appreciate a better pace than this

game isn't going that fast, and worst would only be complaining like this if he has difficulty keeping up from a scum mindset. Just from outside worst has no problem keeping up with heavily active games as town, even if he is busy, this game also isn't that busy which is hilarious that i am seeing people go "ohh god the speed of this game".

Bitch, you people don't know what a fast pace game. This is what 15 pages in nearly 2 days now? Ive seen games that had 96 pages in 24 fucking hours. Cry me a river.

Like Gamma and pops a tiny tiny bit. I actually like Ank a tiny bit too. Got a small warm fuzzy from Fireb's opening posts. Leaving on a ferry now gl remember to lynch Ari d1

Empty posting.

bargain: lemon

bargain: fruit

idk which one of these I'm meant to be posting

This seems out of character and weird to do from his mindset? Where did "lime" come from exactly? Almost seems like hidden info unless pine mentioned something about it and I am a derp. Unless worstie is in a trolly mood i don't think he risks the bargain this early with so little info, thats something i do, not him.

Like Gamma and pops a tiny tiny bit. I actually like Ank a tiny bit too. Got a small warm fuzzy from Fireb's opening posts. Leaving on a ferry now gl remember to lynch Ari d1

I don't really like pops all that much off p2ish (but I love her as a person <3) but Gamma is still town!Gamma. Ank is somewhere in null/nulltown.

Dude
Should I be worried of people jumping on firebringer?
I’m starting to get a bit worried

I don't feel all that worried about it. Don't overthink it too much.

more empty posting.


WORSTIE IS A GOOD WAGON

This is really OOC for firebringer to make and comes out of nowhere. The best way is that he did it due to his interaction with Alisae and that comes from a scum mindset more often than not. Fire would probably post this whenever if he was town. The timing of this is just bad

VOTE: Chickadee

Bad vote, Chicks reaction was townie.
Pops reaction to ‘scum paranoia tier’ along with his the worst vote is also pretty meh. I wouldn’t mind if the worst died for the simple fact that if he flips town it gives me ammo to lynch pops.

I don't like this post from Maria, also her ignoring me is bad juju. She's a full scumread now.

Well, if I’m a vig you won’t leash me. But I think you already know I beat to my own drum. But don’t worry this isn’t really important because we know I’d never get picked to be a PR~

I would negotiate a shot with you
which is basically the samething but you get a say in the matter

Fyi this is how I approach leasing when I'm the one being leashed

I like this wagon

I don't

I like this wagon

I don't

Nice to see Ali agrees

Pine's letter to me was something I didn't expect a lot of people to know about me and made me want to try harder in this game just for him. So thanks Pine.

UHHHH
I don't like this

Mena who would you neighbourize if you had it

PB

lol obv

---

Wall post song, maybe I should put these at the top actually. Next time.

Questions for jjh, Alyssa, Pine, Ali
UT scummy
Kinda feel like Splatlock is town
MariaR is a full scumread

This is the last one for today but I'll do try to respond to any responses + questions

~Fixed broken tags, Jingle

[Gamma Emerald]

my read on xof was that I really just didn't think Pine drafted her
coming out of retirement to play and out of touch with the meta?
REAAAAAAAALY didn't think Pine was going to draft that so I took my chances and hard softed her as my mason.

She's back on the table that lastest post was somethin else

Well okay. Did you respond to my criticism of your logic at all?

[Gamma Emerald]

my read on xof was that I really just didn't think Pine drafted her
coming out of retirement to play and out of touch with the meta?
REAAAAAAAALY didn't think Pine was going to draft that so I took my chances and hard softed her as my mason.

She's back on the table that lastest post was somethin else

Well okay. Did you respond to my criticism of your logic at all?

where??????

In one of my walls
I tried to make sure everyone who I asked a question to was noted outside the spoiler so I'm mildly upset you missed it

[Gamma Emerald]

Bleh I'm on mobile so that's gonna SUCK
But I'll do it

[Gamma Emerald]

OK this is deffo wine. first off why does the first point exist? Pine joined in 2011, and came back in like 2016/2017, and afaict hasn't been inactive since. So why does not having played in a long time matter? I also see Pine as someone who'd be willing to take aleap of faith on a newer player, so the other half of that makes no sense. Also why is personal experience relevant, I think Pine is more than capable of doing research, plus I feel like if there was no personal experience they wouldn't be here. Only sensible point is the last one. I wouldn't want to clash with someone I'm trying to work with, that sounds like an unenjoyable experience. I think I recall a team with RC and Mathblade blowing up because they couldn't handle each other.

Okay found it
It wasn't a question so I didn't think to tag it. I'm the one at fault here, oops.
Also I noticed I screwed up the spoiler tagging in my last wall, Jingle if you can fix that pls do, if you need more info on the fix I can give it

[Gamma Emerald]

Also since there are like 9 new pages I'll just sweep up responses as I catch my own tail

[Gamma Emerald]

Chickadee is one of the quieter Dames along this journey, but by no means is she any less crafty than her peers. She has the dual job in the kingdom of curating those brave knights who have fallen to Pine's machinations, keeping their bones safe from the ravages of time, and memorializing the faces of those who are successful in their journeys with the brush. Her skill with art is unparalleled, and countless tapestries and statues adorn the royal palace that she has designed and brought to life, or, indeed to death. For just as many scenes of foes vanquished sit close to those happy days spent with friends in her memory.

Decided to read the mod ISO, Chickadee, if I die,

take good care of my bones

. Pine threatened to use them to feed his seedlings.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Jingle can you correct this if im wrong or confirm if i am right that Ari would be able to give more details about his note?

4. Don't PROVABLY quote privileged information.

Unlike most mods, I don't care if you quote. As long as it's not provable (No quote tags, timestamps, screenshots, links to PTs) feel free to quote anything I send you as part of the game. This is because I also make all formatting available to the scumteam, so it doesn't prove anything.

Also if I feel like it I'm gonna post Ali's message to me because it was very sweet. Unless e objects

[Gamma Emerald]

For real, how about love?

Love is cool. Yes romantic "love" in actuality is just a chemical reaction that furthers natural selection but I think true love still exists like in the movies.

[Gamma Emerald]

Da, da dada da

[Gamma Emerald]

Pink Ball I have something in one of my walls I'd like you to respond to
Have you read them yet?

[Gamma Emerald]

Howdy, what's up?

LLD is scum D;

Please

For the love of Zor!

Fucking don't vote LLD!

Ari you mod dude
Non-random roles
LLD is town
What role do you give her

A BP Vig.
BP goes away after Vig is used.
Maybe make it a dayvig because those are way more fun and she's prolly gonna shoot like a champ!

I like this role tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

For real, how about love?

Jingle I fucking love you, I was thinking about this song when I answered Gamma. Ewan McDaddy

Also wow, never heard that one. I thought you were referring to the Beatles song.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't think posting that kind of thing outside the Speakeasy is allowed

[Gamma Emerald]

its a comedy sketch gamma

ok

Also wow, never heard that one. I thought you were referring to the Beatles song.

That song is a bunch of famous one liners from other sources. It is a reference to the Beatles song, as well as a bunch of others.

Cool

[Gamma Emerald]

Pink Ball I have something in one of my walls I'd like you to respond to
Have you read them yet?

The one you said something about me scumreading you? I'm not scumreading you, I just found odd that you would gut townread me when I had only one post in the game

@Gamma is this what you were asking me?

Yes. It seemed you were calling me the one active scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also why would LLD not commute

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean, both wines were poisoned so...

Exactly, because Vizzini didn't realize it wouldn't affect Roberts. That's why WIFOM is so powerful, you don't have all the info.

[Gamma Emerald]

to check [LLD] is a waste of resources.

I agree with this

[Gamma Emerald]

What the heck

[Gamma Emerald]

Some of you need to stop

[Gamma Emerald]

Y'all are really set on making it impossible to keep up huh

[Gamma Emerald]

You know what I'm done trying to catch up I'll just play from here, and maybe do ISOs if I want/need to.
PEdit: less pages doesn't reduce the time it takes to read

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: LLD

You know what I'm done trying to catch up I'll just play from here, and maybe do ISOs if I want/need to.
PEdit: less pages doesn't reduce the time it takes to read

vote lld

Yeah actually should have done this much sooner
To respond to a specific point, yes I would give LLD a chance if she wasn't already scummy. This lynch doesn't seem like a BoP lynch and to call it that is bad. I vaguely recall LLD doing the same in Witches Ball.

[Gamma Emerald]

You know mastina you make some good point but some of them if seems like you don't see the worth

[Gamma Emerald]

You know mastina you make some good point but some of them if seems like you don't see the worth

Explicitly so, yes? Some of the picks I don't see the worth in them--that doesn't mean that there isn't any worth in them. If there were a player Pine wouldn't at least

plausibly

have reason to recruit, simply put: they wouldn't be in this game. Every player has at least a possible reason Pine would want them. But while I feel like I have at least a reasonable grasp on many of these reasons, fucked if I know what all of them would be.

I generally have reasonably good psychological profiles of players and have some idea of Pine's own profiles of players but explicitly these two profiles while there's overlap are not identical. My psychological profiles won't match his psychological profiles perfectly so there will always be picks where I don't see the worth in them that he does and there will always be picks that I see the worth in them which barely if at all entered into his mind.

Okay. Well to pick out one example, you say Krazy is burnt out for being scum. That feels consistent with his inactivity.

[Gamma Emerald]

maria is....interesting. her open antagonism of gamma is a big thinker for me. ...null for now?

When the hell did this happen

[Gamma Emerald]

Ehh: Gamma Emerald / DrippingGoofball / Firebringer / xofelf / Iconeum / popsofctown / Jjh927 / chenni

Your ehh tier is like 50% my town reads

[Gamma Emerald]

hello friends it's buffy time

Dann did you answer my meta question?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: ari

Why
I think Ari is town

[Gamma Emerald]

Which?

Ico and jjh
Guess if I take myself out it doesn't seem like as much

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh by the way Gamma. I've ignored you because I don't care about your read on me. You're not gonna get me lynched and you're not someone people are gonna listen to who 'scumreads' me. So trying to debunk your scumread on me is a waste of time. Because I can really care less on what your read on me is.
Ali I agree with Ank here. I'm not seeing what you're seeing what Mena
pedit: I haven't put the time into reading you LLD. I respect you enough that I'm not gonna just 'lol' vote you because you're a good scum player. We've both been in that spot.
pedit2: My name is Claire. I go by Chelsea on another site

Okay so this post sucks
You generally seem to be chill about "we can read each other well" so you reacting like this is never a good look. I also recall you doing it in the past, don't recall which game it was

[Gamma Emerald]

Can someone explain how PB is scum
I don't see it at all

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd say he was similar in PFUP but I recall some real solving there
I think I agree with the consensus now

[Gamma Emerald]

Ico and jjh

do you feel like you have a decent read rate on jjh?

Not really, do you? Also why not ask about Ico too?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I agree on 1161, in fact I made the same point except I said "choo choo" instead :3

Huh

[Gamma Emerald]

Not really, do you? Also why not ask about Ico too?

Just surprised at your level of confidence, trying to remember the extent of your interactions with him (jjh) in Anime upick. You seemed to be expressing a decent level of confidence on your read there but maybe that's just where your gut lies right now? Ico I just feel like is generally a hard read because his baseline is pretty scummy, but you in particular being confident on jjh kinda surprised me

I did jack shit in Retro Anime UPick so I don't understand using it for anything regarding me

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I agree on 1161, in fact I made the same point except I said "choo choo" instead :3

Huh

The time has come to lynch LLD, Gamma.



ALL ABOARD

Already there yo

[Gamma Emerald]

hi gamma I just found your question to me earlier, sorry I missed it

Interesting, which games are your sample size? I haven't formed any opinions on your ability to read me at all so I want to see. I remember we played like a couple normals, and also MD rerun.

I think two normals, Merchant's Daughter, Fire on the Mountain (you replaced out of that one but I still town read you), and I think one more that I'm forgetting right now? It might just be four I dunno

Think I barely posted in Fire In The Mountain, in that case I think you get to be in the "can read Gamma Emerald well" club
MariaR is looking to get kicked the fuck out btw

[Gamma Emerald]

I did jack shit in Retro Anime UPick so I don't understand using it for anything regarding me

Hence why I asked, since I didn't remember you catching him there but I wasn't really sure if you actually felt fooled by him. I guess you more just didn't engage with that game so you might be right, just trying to understand how you're approaching that read. What do you think is townie about jjh?

689 as I said was a good take and showed nuanced gameplay, though since it's an axiomatic statement it could possibly be scum, also I'm biased because I get shitty FoSes for "not posting content" sometimes, or at least I went through a phase of that

[Gamma Emerald]

Ali pls slow the fuck down because you are making it a challenge to post at all with how often you ninja me

[Gamma Emerald]

Ali pls slow the fuck down because you are making it a challenge to post at all with how often you ninja me

I just had a really awful day
but now I'm better now and I feel happier
but most importantly
I'm hyped to play some FUCKIN MAFIA

and you gonna tell me to chill?

Bruh
I'm fuckin HYPED

I'm not telling you to tone down you attitude, just reduce the posting speed

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum watcher is quite powerful

[Gamma Emerald]

Would people mind if I went for the watcher

[Gamma Emerald]

Bargain: Watcher

I'm taking that as permission, thanks!

[Gamma Emerald]

Upvotes and mafia games don't work well probably

[Gamma Emerald]

Bargain: Watcher

I'm taking that as permission, thanks!

Pine I posted this

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: LLD

You know what I'm done trying to catch up I'll just play from here, and maybe do ISOs if I want/need to.
PEdit: less pages doesn't reduce the time it takes to read

vote lld

Yeah actually should have done this much sooner
To respond to a specific point, yes I would give LLD a chance if she wasn't already scummy. This lynch doesn't seem like a BoP lynch and to call it that is bad. I vaguely recall LLD doing the same in Witches Ball.

Cellophane, Mr. Cellophane
Shoulda been my name
Mr. Cellophane
'Cause you can look right through me
Walk right by me
You never know I'm there
Never, even, kneeeeeew

[Gamma Emerald]

LLD was at L-4, then GreyICE revoted and Firebringer revoted her for the first time. She's at quasi L-2 while Dannflor's vote is remove.

GE if you wanna be super nice I think PB is asleep and I think I will be up for a couple of hours till Dflor readlists and revotes. But if you wanna be

medium

nice pls swoop fruit from PB that slot is waaay scummier than yours you're probtown

Aka unvote for now right

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw fir is a type of pine right
Almost typo'ed instead of for which would have been epic if that' a type of pine

[Gamma Emerald]

Was the crunch of the fruit fully explained somewhere? i.e. does it have to be used the same night it's given?

Yes, Pine has said so for both fruits

[Gamma Emerald]

Is he mechanically incentivized to give the power to town? Like is he restricted from exclusively giving it to scum? Or can he simply refuse to give out fruit altogether?

He has said he will bargain in good faith but he also I think can just back out if he wants, read the Pine ISO plus the thing in the OP on it for a better description likely

[Gamma Emerald]

monkeys fist situation going on.

what does this mean?

Paw, not fist, my bad

Yeah a monkey fist is a weapon

[Gamma Emerald]

Honestly Dann would be the one playing dumb about the fruit, Pine has already stated I'd no one asks he can do whatever the fuck he wants

[Gamma Emerald]

What if i told you guys i think youre both scum?

Spicier?

Why Dann? Kinda receptive given my last post but I also townread his early stuff

[Gamma Emerald]

you didn't even fucking bargain the fruit

It dies on the vine then.

Only scum reads the setup information!

[Gamma Emerald]

you didn't even fucking bargain the fruit

It dies on the vine then.

Only scum reads the setup information!

[Gamma Emerald]

FORMERFISH
you can't EXPOSE ME TO THAT STUFF

BRUH
I'M INNOCENT

No one is innocent, you're guilty from the day you're born

[Gamma Emerald]

oh does that mean scum got the watcher?

.....

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: LLD

Mega oof

[Gamma Emerald]

oh

scum did get the watcher

well fuck my life then

Why is pops scum
I've seen people calling your stubbornness scummy and I'm vaguely inclined to agree

[Gamma Emerald]

That's legitimately not convincing at all

[Gamma Emerald]

@ank

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't intend to do a full catch up but if anyone wants something seen by me please let me know
I'll also try to scan for responses and I'll poke for ones I still want/need

[Gamma Emerald]

no
Dann is town
Deffo think we should lynch Krazy tomorrow

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma's also scum lol

this game

the OMGUS is real

[Gamma Emerald]

Stop bullying Alisae
E obviously realizes what e did was wrong, no need to keep sticking it in eir face

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah except you've literally only ever pushed me when you're scum, Gamma

Yeah that's some real intellectual honesty, saying because someone hasn't ever pushed you as town yet they have to be scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Stop bullying Alisae
E obviously realizes what e did was wrong, no need to keep sticking it in eir face

no I really fucked up
I deserve like
everything I get

Sure, but like on the last page I saw like 3 people get on you for it. At this point you're just filling space.

[Gamma Emerald]

It's kinda like Murphy's Law yeah

[Gamma Emerald]

What fail videos

[Gamma Emerald]

Epic pagetop bro

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah that's some real intellectual honesty, saying because someone hasn't ever pushed you as town yet they have to be scum

Except it's not just one way. Every time you're scum you come out with some sort of hyper confidence on me day 1. Either you're trying to get in my pants like in Merchant's Dance or you've decided you think I'm scum like in Overkill 2. I've played with you enough that when you come out with some strong opinion of me day 1 it's almost universally a bad sign for your alignment lol.

My issue is what you're doing right here, using it as an excuse to push me, rather than asking "this is different, what gives"? Town!you genuinely sorts me here, which you're not doing.

[Gamma Emerald]

oh looks like I was hammer

neat I stopped scum from getting it

I bargain in good faith, but not in idiocy. The conditions of the bargain were not fulfilled, so I regard myself freed from their constraints. When I get home from work, I will consider which applicant to grant the Watcher power to, if any, and whether I will require a service of them in exchange.

Similarly, my faith is true when my conditions are met. Chickadee, I award you a Neighborizer fruit. You must use it before the next Day Phase begins.

See the purpose of actually boning up on setup info?
Next person to act rashly from this point will get the full force of me against them

[Gamma Emerald]

You know what IS the right power to use on Ank N1?A protective, because she will ALWAYS die N1.

You do this everytime you fake claim. Ive seen it a dozen times. You rewrite history of your posts to pertend you crumbed shit. Stop lying.

Yeah if you think that's not a real 'crumb you don't know fucking shit.
I PMd the mod about my role, twice, talking about it. Once was telling Jingle "You know I'll never get a successful protection off, right?"
The other was exactly that: telling him, "You know what IS the right role to use on Ank N1?" more or less.
Then there was also submitting the night action where I said that Pine was probably killing someone he thought was a mason, but fuckit, that I was protecting Ank because I wouldn't be able to predict who he'd kill when mason-hunting but COULD predict who would be a probable nightkill.

There is no other player in the game who I would've protected N1.

Least of all given she was my second strongest townread D1.

My big issue is how does weak hider interact with protective roles if it dies via its role
I know doctor stops weak death but I'm not sure about BG

[Gamma Emerald]

You are lying.

Idk about lying but who the fuck cares what mastina sent the mod? And why does she send the mod those things at all anyway?

[Gamma Emerald]

Nacho is a strange scum kill ??

I'm with Ali here
If that was the scum nightkill
That was cruel.

[Gamma Emerald]

It was like the optimal scum NK you fools

yeah because you made it
Duh

No one ever talked to me about tw I. comparison to The Thread Title Sucked (from what I saw) and now 1 of the 2 who could have helped me there is dead
Fire fucking help explain why tw isn't playing like that game

[Gamma Emerald]

Pops got the watcher

[Gamma Emerald]

I should probably claim my target anyway right? Never rolled watcher before.

Yes since it was one shot

[Gamma Emerald]

It was like the optimal scum NK you fools

yeah because you made it
Duh

No one ever talked to me about tw I. comparison to The Thread Title Sucked (from what I saw) and now 1 of the 2 who could have helped me there is dead
Fire fucking help explain why tw isn't playing like that game

ohh yeah, the duckling def feels different, and is really feels like he is playing to the crowd a bit.

Not exactly what I wanted but certainly helpful

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G&R?

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I watched MariaR because a couple people TR and I thought it'd be unexpected for me to watch someone who treats me adversarial sometimes. I got no results, no results at all (communicated in a way that says I wasn't roleblocked)

Ok
@Grey I don't think a vig shot Alyssa

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Guns and Roses, a game Alisae and I played together

If you mean G&R 2 I was also in that

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Btw I won't be campaigning for a Krazy lynch yet but it's definitely something I'll keep in mind, I kinda expect good things from Krazy

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Aren't role PMs supposed to be insanely customized or some shit? Mastina quoting hers is extremely ehhhhhhh

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Yeah I don't think lynching Krazy today is a good idea

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Btw I won't be campaigning for a Krazy lynch yet but it's definitely something I'll keep in mind, I kinda expect good things from Krazy

Was this in response to something from this dayphase?

Because of things I talked about with Ali in the endgame of another game I had resolved to push you with renewed vigor but later I changed my mind and decided to hold off. As I see it my decision at this point looks to be the right one.

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Okay I guess the "personalized role PM" thing never happened
I checked Ank's flip and the role wasn't woven in the flavor in any way
But there's the fact that Mastina had that available to just change to a bodyguard role PM so I'm not convinced by usage of the role PM to prove anything

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Okay I guess the "personalized role PM" thing never happened
I checked Ank's flip and the role wasn't woven in the flavor in any way
But there's the fact that Mastina had that available to just change to a bodyguard role PM so I'm not convinced by usage of the role PM to prove anything

we scrapped the personalized role pms and instead we’re doing our messages.
Me and Pine can send those out.

Ah thanks

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Btw random aside, who tinfoiled that Ali and Pine were in opposite roles to what is advertised

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I think it's possible Ank just didn't crumb.

I don't think she was suicidal. I think she wanted to come out with a secret town read inno (or maybe two if she could get away with another night) that would strengthen her read list and start solving the game. She specifically asked for Mastina and mine's lists before the day ended yesterday. Her delaying her own reads list did seem strategic, and I think she was waiting for her result to come through. She just didn't expect to die at all and thus didn't crumb it.

idk maybe that's not giving Ank enough credit

Can we possibly backdoor a possible result from Alyssa's town list?

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I don't think that LLD is scum, I legitimately don't. Yes she is a force of goddamn nature who will do anything and everything to further her own win condition, but I think she's on our side. Her reactions to everything don't read to me like a caught scumLLD, but a genuinely frustrated and upset LLD who is feeling attacked and with only so much she can actually do to defend herself. I don't know anything about the role she's actually claimed, and it's possible that's a lie, but her behaviour just doesn't have the underlying feel to it when she's lying and manipulating to get one over on you.

So I've seen people call this out as why xof is scum. Can I get some background of why?
@Dann yeah probably, but either we isolate one suspect now or we can determine a pool to work with going forward.

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I hate quoting from locked threads

Is there an easy way of doing it

I use the PM button in the bottom left corner

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@Penguin: I know I'm not voting and you'd rather I was. I'm not the kind of person who votes all willy-nilly. I tend to only vote when I feel confident where I'm voting is scum, or to reaction test to what I say my reasons are for voting that slot. Because I tend to respond after there's been a bunch of pages, I don't want to have a vote somewhere I'm not confident in and to come back and find my vote helped a lynch happen that I didn't want to have happen.

This would be my guess for where something doesn't fit in, maybe the voting self meta?

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Or actually the fact she directly addresses Penguin like that

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She posted that response to Penguin to address her not voting silly Billy. That seems consistent? What am I missing?

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Perfection.

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Well ain't that convenient

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Hello:

Not Voting (5): xofelf, UntrodTripod, Formerfish, Aristophanes, ankamius,

Do something.

And, you're welcome, Jingle.

So xof has to be responding to this post there, no other PP post is aimed at xof. Fyi for now I should be fine without spending more Hint Coins

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Who's got an idol?

WHAT??? WE SURVIVORING NOW?

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Because I tend to respond after there's been a bunch of pages

This is the issue, final answer. Xofelf came out to respond to PP rather than do what she described.
Inb4 it's wrong and I lose Picarats

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I liked Iconeum's early stuff
Any reason I shouldn't just use that read?

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@Penguin: I know I'm not voting and you'd rather I was. I'm not the kind of person who votes all willy-nilly. I tend to only vote when I feel confident where I'm voting is scum, or to reaction test to what I say my reasons are for voting that slot. Because I tend to respond after there's been a bunch of pages, I don't want to have a vote somewhere I'm not confident in and to come back and find my vote helped a lynch happen that I didn't want to have happen.

Christ I was like "who the fuck is Penguin?" Then I discovered this ISO:

viewtopic.php?t=80863&f=3&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

Are you seriously responding to THIS POST?

Hello:

Not Voting (5): xofelf, UntrodTripod, Formerfish, Aristophanes, ankamius,

Do something.

And, you're welcome, Jingle.

The only way you found that was if you used the search function in this thread for every mention of your name. Um... what. The. Fuck. Are. You. Doing.

Aha! Now I get it, I agree it's kinda shady. Not sure if it's super damning though.

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The nocturnal life is fun, I actually practiced it for like a month during 2017

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Same probably
My issue is due to mobile games I just don't get to sleep until like 5 or 6 in the morning then I sleep till like 1 in the afternoon

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PINE
You NK’d Nacho
When we were ALL excited to play with him
Before he could even post

You ARE evil.

Curious. We didn’t, actually. There’s a Vig out there with shit aim.

We no-killed to fuck with you.

I really don't buy this.

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PINE
You NK’d Nacho
When we were ALL excited to play with him
Before he could even post

You ARE evil.

Curious. We didn’t, actually. There’s a Vig out there with shit aim.

We no-killed to fuck with you.

I really don't buy this.

Especially if LLD was on the team

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Like, the fruit eaters could skew the numbers on parity in the traditional scum wincon somehow, for example. Which would mean we'd want to stack up fruit on the same people to minimise the effect, if possible.

But on the opposite end of the theorising, eating multiple fruit could also plausibly cause death. Which makes stacking fruit bad.

But I think the main downside of the fruit is related to the scum wincon, because it'd be a good reason for that scumflip not including your wincon.

Interesting concept

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What did mastina lie about?

It's the outrage - it rings fake.

Oooh talk about this please

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Also, I think Ank hid behind Nacho, and died when we offed him. No Weak mod shenanigans, just an ordinary Hider death

Nothing to see here, move along

I feel like Jon Misch being around all this wine

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Mine looks like Mastina's copied role pm. Does yours not?

It does but that was the problem, I thought mastina's would look different, then I came to my senses and checked to flipped PR.

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That was me. It wasn't serious. It was definitely just me being paranoid and making a joke. Curious though, what made you think of that?

I felt like it might be a townslip if it was a serious proposition

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Is Chickadee/DGB the worst scum distancing attempt of all time?

Like, is that it? Is this just how it reads to me, or are other people seeing this?

I kinda see it
That was a really clunky interaction

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Hi
What happening in the last 20 pages cos I ain't got time to read

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What the actual hell lmfao
I don't think scum crumbles this fast, there's a catch
What fruit is on the table rn

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I mean I'd read it but I have like 15 other threads too

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I've been away for two days, logical guess.

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I've been away for two days, logical guess.

How long did it take pine to offer fruit from start of day 1?

Few days I recall

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I've been away for two days, logical guess.

How long did it take pine to offer fruit from start of day 1?

36~ hours, however the gap between fruit one and fruit two was four days, minus one hour.

It is not a good look.

Okay? I'm scum for assuming something happened and asking a question based off that? If you think I'm scum because I know fruit is on the table, why the fuck do I have to ask what it is?
HOLY SHIT USE YOUR BRAIN

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Maybe Pine posted "ask for the fruit scumpartner x" in the PT but didn't post the name.

This seems like a massive reach, I feel like Pine would do better at keeping that info known.

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Also btw you don't need to answer the question anymore because I checked Pine's ISO

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Maybe Pine posted "ask for the fruit scumpartner x" in the PT but didn't post the name.

This seems like a massive reach, I feel like Pine would do better at keeping that info known.

why does that seem like a massive reach

The logic seems flimsy

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This game is kinda boring me rn
Ali why shouldn't I bargain for fruit right this second?

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This game is kinda boring me rn
Ali why shouldn't I bargain for fruit right this second?

How would you even know I you aren't reading?

I skipped 30 pages, doesn't mean I'm not actively reading stuff since I came back
Seems like a lot of arguments similar to before I dipped are going on and none interest or involve me

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This game is kinda boring me rn
Ali why shouldn't I bargain for fruit right this second?

I will delete your FE Heroes account IRL in real life in Nintendo's servers which are real life

Try me.

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GE I will delete your Animal Crossing acc

Lol don't have one

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...okay.

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I think one of the reasons why pine might have brought me in would be for me to try and hard pocket you

Where did you succeed in pocketing PB before?

in pfup I think we consistently TR each other from early D1 despite some late game paranoia in both directions

It's not quite pocketing if you're town
But I think you did pocket him in Ruby

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(2) I don’t think pine not being in that means he wouldn’t prepare for this game by reading recent games. I don’t think you need to be scum to pocket someone

Pine WAS in Ruby though

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Hi my mind feels like it' been torn into spaghetti then put in a blender

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VLA For like 2 weeks, just got a concussion yesterday and need to do a brain break which includes reduced screentime