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[Rick Dalton]

Good to see a lot of these faces in this game.

This ol tv Cowboy hasn’t played with Profii, Tchill, Carcalilly in a minute.

Decent amount of the Boon Babes in here too.

Also, Hectic’s giving me gimmick alt vibes

[Rick Dalton]

Like the gimmick is playing the wiki newb.

Explaining the Page Top is hilarious

[Rick Dalton]

Good to see a lot of these faces in this game.

This ol tv Cowboy hasn’t played with Profii, Tchill, Carcalilly in a minute.

Decent amount of the Boon Babes in here too.

Also, Hectic’s giving me gimmick alt vibes

Our reign came before you.

But you seem to be well aquainted with the recent meta.
VOTE: Rick Dalton and that makes me want to play devil's advocate. Are you scum?

Hell, Carcalilly.

The name’s Leaf.

Flavor...Leaf.

Aka Boonskiies because I think you might have met me there when i caught you and Tchill scum that one time.

[Rick Dalton]

Hello*

[Rick Dalton]

oooh I may have spoken too soon, oh dear. I hadn’t realized how cute Carcalilly is. maybe I should reconsider

Howdy, neighbor. How’s Roman Polanski doing?

[Rick Dalton]

Where’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth?

I need a ride to the liquor store.

[Rick Dalton]

also I hold the quotes in my sig dear to heart. It'll be hard to match them.

Oh, hey, I’m in that sig of yours.

[Rick Dalton]

Damn it, A50, now that song’s stuck in my head.

[Rick Dalton]

New song necessary:


Let me see you one two step

[Rick Dalton]

If Hectic is actually just Dr Easy Bake, I’m going to flip a lid.

[Rick Dalton]

Woah, I am on a roll of PageTops here. I think I read on the wiki somewhere that consistent PageToppers are 11% more likely to be town.
This statistic is incorrect however, since I am a Survivor this game. Silly wiki.

What I think you may find interesting is that there was this old statistic/graphic that "scum tend to post less" in general, so the likelyhood of pagetopping is less.

I've been wrecked by exceptions before, so it doesn't really help you in my book. Everyone's got an equal chance of being scum here. Except maybe gamma.

If this were the case, I wouldn’t have rolled scum 10 times this year already.

[Rick Dalton]

Woah, I am on a roll of PageTops here. I think I read on the wiki somewhere that consistent PageToppers are 11% more likely to be town.
This statistic is incorrect however, since I am a Survivor this game. Silly wiki.

What I think you may find interesting is that there was this old statistic/graphic that "scum tend to post less" in general, so the likelyhood of pagetopping is less.

I've been wrecked by exceptions before, so it doesn't really help you in my book. Everyone's got an equal chance of being scum here. Except maybe gamma.

I was reading through Mastin's Insane Tells in the wiki and apparently a lot of these statistics and guides become obsolete once people actually start reading them and playing against the tells.

What's your history with

Omega Ruby

Gamma Emerald?

Some people are God meta manipulators and following what you know can be a weakness for them to exploit. They take no prisoners.

I have a little bit of history. He's just town.

Like who

[Rick Dalton]

So I'm still reading through Mastin's Guide for Scumhunting, and Rick's behaviour this game fits perfectly into "riding the wave" scum archetype she describes.

VOTE: Rick Dalton

Mastina’s one of the people who’ve misread me in the majority of games I’ve played against her.

She scum read me in most of my town games, and then town read me as VI town when I was scum bussing a buddy whom she also thought of as town.


Hello, I’m Rick Dalton. The best TV baddie cowboy in the biz.

I’m the antithesis of the normal mafia philosophy and bring results. This town ain’t big enough for the two of us.

[Rick Dalton]

Profii Profii Profii Profii Profii Profii Profii profii

[Rick Dalton]

Profii Profii Profii Profii Profii Profii Profii profii

I typed this out before you typed out your last post wtf

[Rick Dalton]

Profii Profii Profii Profii Profii Profii Profii profii

This player list is hype, right?

It really is. A decent amount of Boon Babes are here.

I hope Hectic is actually just Unabombah, but I know this to just be wishful

[Rick Dalton]

I think correct continent, wrong country.

Una’s Finland

[Rick Dalton]

I can soul read Davy boy Jones

[Rick Dalton]

It's just that I haven't seen any attempts to progress the game or scumhunt in your 17 posts. Do you disagree with the basis of my read, disregarding where on the wiki it came from?

Fair, but why wouldn’t I do that as scum to try to be townie?

I actually have been progressing the game/scum hunt, but I admit my style is rather unique, so it might be hard to see, which at least confirms that you aren’t familiar with me if you are an alt.

I once asked someone if they wore cologne to figure out if they were scum.

I drove the scum team into madness.

[Rick Dalton]

Ignore Judge. I think I'm bussing him enough here. Would prefer it if he got in on the act since there's no way the entire scumteam would act like this.

Pretty sure Soulreading is something FL just made up. Either that or it's that thing Cowbells has where you sell your soul for enhanced mafia abilities.

Why would I ever make terms up like that...?

[Rick Dalton]

If judge ends up being scum I won't be able to tell until later days.

Howdy everyone. I'm Rick's stunt double, Cliff Booth.

I feel strongly obligated to do this for personal reasons.

VOTE: Hopkirk

@Rick Fuckin Dalton tell me if I'm wrong about this one and I'll back down

Best stunt double a man could ask for.

Hell no, I’ll do you one better.

VOTE: Hopkirk

I felt off the moment he brought up me and making up soul reading apparently.

Maybe our neighbor will join in too

[Rick Dalton]

Woah, I am on a roll of PageTops here. I think I read on the wiki somewhere that consistent PageToppers are 11% more likely to be town.
This statistic is incorrect however, since I am a Survivor this game. Silly wiki.

What I think you may find interesting is that there was this old statistic/graphic that "scum tend to post less" in general, so the likelyhood of pagetopping is less.

I've been wrecked by exceptions before, so it doesn't really help you in my book. Everyone's got an equal chance of being scum here. Except maybe gamma.

I was reading through Mastin's Insane Tells in the wiki and apparently a lot of these statistics and guides become obsolete once people actually start reading them and playing against the tells.

What's your history with

Omega Ruby

Gamma Emerald?

Some people are God meta manipulators and following what you know can be a weakness for them to exploit. They take no prisoners.

I have a little bit of history. He's just town.

Like who

This raises so many red flags

If you knew how I spoke in real life, you’d roll your eyes there too. I’m silly.

I just wanted them to say it. I wanted them to say my name, say my name, say my name, when no one is around you, say baby i love you.

Get in with this destiny’s child this game

[Rick Dalton]

Didn't realize this game had started... High people.

Nope, haven't smoked an ounce of weed.

Damn, an ounce, you’d be gone!

[Rick Dalton]

I just skimmed the last 5 pages to make sure I wasn't lynched before realizing a made a typo lol.

So do I get to skip the dumb rvs or do I need to go back and read it?

I’m still foolin’ around with this tomfoolery, so I say...do you.

[Rick Dalton]

Elements, you probably just need to Tchill out

[Rick Dalton]

Was this a serious question and what did you hope to get out of it?

Haha, I make up terms all the time. We got hatcheting, seducing, slingshotting. Whatever makes sense to me at a moments notice.

JJD here hates hatcheting

[Rick Dalton]

I'll just get this out of the way

Hopkirk, Dave, profii, Rick Dalton are players Ik that can do well as town and I'll be a little more tentative to lynch them early (unless I think they're scum of course)

If they ever flip town I'll probably believe a lot of their reads. Just trying to be transparent.

I'm only familiar with Rick's scum game but it's been FOREVER since I've played with or against him so I might as well have no experience with the guy.

Anyway that's my PSA.

Was this in reference to the entire playerlist, like out of everyone here, I’m the only one who’s scum game you know?

I’m clarifying because I read it differently at first.

[Rick Dalton]

I took advantage of Skellen when I was scum once. They should have been conf town, but I powered through doubt into the game

[Rick Dalton]

I’m in a neighborhood with Tchill and Aristophanes.

[Rick Dalton]

To be fair, there is a sample pm

[Rick Dalton]

I don’t scum read JJd yet, so that means he’s probably town

[Rick Dalton]

He also doesn’t seem to actively try to make sure that i town read him here, which i feel at this point he just kind of has to if he rolls scum against me.

[Rick Dalton]

He also doesn’t seem to actively try to make sure that i town read him here, which i feel at this point he just kind of has to if he rolls scum against me.

This seem wifom y

That’s my second middle name.

Rick Fucking WIFOM Dalton

[Rick Dalton]

A50 knows if he is scum that comment is there to fuck with him. Hell, if he’s town he knows it’s there too. It forces A50 to think about how I’m thinking about him.

[Rick Dalton]

oi oi Rick Dalton, tell me more about your hood

It was a joke because Tchill, Aristophanes, and myself pulled off a beautiful scum gambit by saying all 3 of us were in a neighborhood together, and I claimed Vigilante but i claimed Aristo’s role, and Tchill claimed gunsmith clearing me, and we won the game through that. Or something like that.

[Rick Dalton]

I was thinking about that a bit. How are you thinking scum would act in a heavily jokey environment (when they've seen a fair few townreads coming out of it). Join in, lurk, or post like normal?

Personality matters. Depends on whether said scum has a reputation for joking, or not.

For instance, I was gonna make a “I’m scum and i didn’t have red in my role pm” kind of joke, but I’ve been getting caught in sticky situations lately when I do that.

[Rick Dalton]

That was low-key a check request. Although I have doubts that we have a cop.
If we do then mafia might also have a pr.

Carca; it's a 21 players game. You didn't think this was a Large mountainous, did you??

And I have claimed Cop, so I want you to concentrate on it.. make sure everyone sees it. Then if scum have a RB then should target me. If they have a Tracker, they should track me. If they have neither, they should outright shoot me. And if Rick Dalton just as much as comments on this, I'm going to be all over him.

What

[Rick Dalton]

Sorry, I forgot this was a thing. I was busy all week so I didn’t have a chance to post.

[Rick Dalton]

I’m an Informed Miller, there are no loyal modifiers in this game, and there are 4 scum

[Rick Dalton]

I plan on pulling a Watcher gambit Day 2.

[Rick Dalton]

I plan on pulling a fruit vendor gambit Day 3.

[Rick Dalton]

I have no clue where scum is

[Rick Dalton]

You’re so Carcalovely.

[Rick Dalton]

Howdy. I’m Rick fucking Dalton, and I’ll eventually spend some time with this game

[Rick Dalton]

Awko taco, this keeps happening

[Rick Dalton]

Guys, that’s my stunt double. I need him, or else I’d have to do my own stunts. I’m an alcoholic, how am I supposed to that drunk?

[Rick Dalton]

Plus, i don’t buy that he’s actually scum. I haven’t been reading too closely, but i feel like he’s getting pushed as scum for NAI reasons.

[Rick Dalton]

Yeah, this is a mislynch.

[Rick Dalton]

I think my case on hopkirk is better than the cliff wagon.

Honestly, the cliff wagon probably happened because he pushed Hopkirk.

He got chainsawed somewhere, I imagine.

[Rick Dalton]

Once Upon A Time...in Hollywood town block.

[Rick Dalton]

Plus, i don’t buy that he’s actually scum. I haven’t been reading too closely, but i feel like he’s getting pushed as scum for NAI reasons.

I think you're scummy too tho

Then you’re probably scum cuz i haven’t done crap all game

[Rick Dalton]

He’s my stunt double, Cliff Booth.

[Rick Dalton]

Sharon Tate’s one of us too. What do you think about that?

[Rick Dalton]

Honestly, I’ve had a busy week. My boss came up to the city, so I’ve been following around the big COO of the company I work for to meetings for the past couple of days, and on my off days I was setting up the pre production for a short film I wrote.

So I’m just piping in, and looking at this game from a very shallow viewpoint, and I saw a lot of things going up on Cliff, and skimming it, I don’t like it

[Rick Dalton]

Cliff entered this game and voted the only person who I kinda felt a bit off about, so I sheeped to see what would happen.

And Cliff got wagoned is what happened.

[Rick Dalton]

I think it’s quite fair for me to not like that. We may be character alts, but I don’t believe I ever sheeped Cliff and acknowledged that I thought that read was 100% correct. It’s Day 1.

I think it’s incredibly fair for me to not like the wagon on Cliff, who has now become a town read based on the wagon on him, not him himself.

Sharon Tate is also part of the gang, and was someone I put in the proclaimed town block.

I did this on a recent Rick Dalton game as well. With Sakura Hana and Formerfish.

Guess what happened there? That ended up being the 3p lylo, and was a big 1v1 between FF and I, but in the end we caught ScumFF.

[Rick Dalton]

So being wagoned for not really doing anything positive in the game makes someone town?

Yup. It should be completely neutral but gamestate means that he’s likely town getting pushed by scum and town alike because there’s no major reason prior to the wagon to town read him. But gamestate dictates a town read.

[Rick Dalton]

I think it’s quite fair for me to not like that. We may be character alts, but I don’t believe I ever sheeped Cliff and acknowledged that I thought that read was 100% correct. It’s Day 1.

I think it’s incredibly fair for me to not like the wagon on Cliff, who has now become a town read based on the wagon on him, not him himself.

Sharon Tate is also part of the gang, and was someone I put in the proclaimed town block.

I did this on a recent Rick Dalton game as well. With Sakura Hana and Formerfish.

Guess what happened there? That ended up being the 3p lylo, and was a big 1v1 between FF and I, but in the end we caught ScumFF.

You actually did solving things that game -_-

Yup. But not Day 1.

[Rick Dalton]

If you truly think that me not doing anything is AI at all...

That’s just par for the course.

I don’t do stuff until I do stuff, either alignment, and when I do stuff, I take over.

I post whilst not invested to try to keep myself at least somewhat here to make it easier when I hard invest.

[Rick Dalton]

I take over.

That's not happening. We took JJD down, we'll take you down again.

Good luck.

[Rick Dalton]

I take over.

That's not happening. We took JJD down, we'll take you down again.

Good luck.

I'm active enough to out shout you

My demeanor doesn’t warrant out shouting, and silences shouts.

Even when I speak of nothing, as I am now, you’re being overrun and worked up.

[Rick Dalton]

Dave, Gamma, Elements, profii vs the Flavor should be fun.

[Rick Dalton]

I take over.

That's not happening. We took JJD down, we'll take you down again.

Good luck.

I'm active enough to out shout you

My demeanor doesn’t warrant out shouting, and silences shouts.

Even when I speak of nothing, as I am now, you’re being overrun and worked up.

I don't get worked up. I just act like I do.

You gonna have a lot of circular irrelevant filler talk such as this?

[Rick Dalton]

Good luck, Elements.

VOTE: Elements

I think we should 1v1.

[Rick Dalton]

I think we should 1v1.

I think that's a bad idea given we're both town

Why is that bad?

Don’t you wanna dance?

[Rick Dalton]

Why is that a problem? I have a proven track record of being able to catch scum well.

Do you think I’d attempt to control town without having the proper momentum behind?

I feel you underestimate me, young axolotl.

[Rick Dalton]

Seems like you’re afraid of a change in game state.

[Rick Dalton]

A leader shouldn’t ever control, they should inspire.

[Rick Dalton]

Damn, now this is what I like...

All y’all vs me.

You guys will win because you’ll have the scum advantage

And I’ve looked at Cliff. I’ve been here kinda.

[Rick Dalton]

I definitely hit prod range. Been busy, I’ll put some effort here soon.

[Rick Dalton]

I think we should 1v1.

I think that's a bad idea given we're both town

Don’t you wanna dance?

I have no problem with you at the current time. If you decide to take control of the town I will.

In not particular order

Town - Kop, Hectic, Eevee, Gamma, carcalillly, JJD, dave, profli
Middle - Billy, Titus, Hopkirk, roster, garmr, bob, Aaron, YAG
Scum - Cliff, Rick, Sharon, tchill
SK - Elements

Lynch this. I haven’t done crap to move like this since his last mentions of me.

[Rick Dalton]

VOTE: Rick

I honestly don’t care nor have enough time for this right now

[Rick Dalton]

For that weak ass reasoning to join on me.

VOTE: Elements

That pissed me off actually.

Gamma/Elements are scum.

[Rick Dalton]

I got pissed off and didn’t feel like reading.

Then I read and Gamma’s just scum.

I’m an investigative. Gtfo

[Rick Dalton]

I also have 74 posts, been actively bringing up my reads, or at least my gut surface reads, interacted with multiple people.

So anyone who says i have zero content or lack of quality posting is full of crap.

[Rick Dalton]

literally 3/11 needed players are voting on you, you're nowhere near being threatened, why act so hostile?

Because of Gamma’s trash reasoning. I’m not actually hostile, I’m just going aggro, more of a

“A helllllll no” kinda vibe, i love gamma. He’s just scum or have a trash reasoning.

And you get scum points because there’s zero reason you should be that confident in Gamma Town. That was a trash reasoning

[Rick Dalton]

Also, Frost’s reasoning are complete trash too.

Lack of content?

What else am I supposed to do. I’ve been here. I’ve actively became the center of attention and actively have been testing people.

Every single time I come into this thread, I take over.

Get out of here with lack of content. I don’t have solutions but I’m anti solutions Day 1 anyways.

I haven’t even been inactive.

[Rick Dalton]

That’s why that was a trash reasoning by Gamma.

I’m not even inactive.

It’s just day 1 when I’m in multiple games

[Rick Dalton]

literally 3/11 needed players are voting on you, you're nowhere near being threatened, why act so hostile?

Because of Gamma’s trash reasoning. I’m not actually hostile, I’m just going aggro, more of a

“A helllllll no” kinda vibe, i love gamma. He’s just scum or have a trash reasoning.

And you get scum points because there’s zero reason you should be that confident in Gamma Town. That was a trash reasoning

they outed themselves as masons. carra*gamma fan fiction and all

Where?

[Rick Dalton]

I’m actually not even thinking Elements is scum here anymore.

Gamma/AF have scum in them 100%

[Rick Dalton]

I'm pretty sure he's meta-ing you with the "zero content" being relative to your supposed towngame.

I'm not familiar with it myself as much so I can't really say anything to either of your defenses.

However, I'll lunch anyone before letting gamma get lynch. If you back off, I mean...

@Carcalilly-Tchill

The game I caught you two as scum day 1, I got pushed for “zero content” as well, and I came in and whooped on y’all

[Rick Dalton]

Not until I have proof he’s Mason.

I’ve seen Gamma want to pull Mason gambits as not mason before.

He was town not mason too.

[Rick Dalton]

I’m not gonna trust a Day 1 mason claim.

Maybe I’ll trust it later.

You know what.

I’m a Day 3 IC. Y’all trust that?

[Rick Dalton]

The fact that both Cliff and I have wagons is ridiculous and proves scum is taking advantage and discrediting is because they didn’t want us pairing up together.

Splitting Cliff and I up like that was necessary.

[Rick Dalton]

If you are SERIOUSLY doubting he's a mason, than what am I to you?

Someone going along with their gambit.

I’ll believe it when I see it, either in play, or flip.

You guys are claimed, so we’ll see what happens.

Rarely do actual masons claim like that Day 1.

[Rick Dalton]

Because his push on me is bad and straight up wrong.

I’m not saying that necessarily what he said was wrong, but the application to the specifics here is incorrect.

[Rick Dalton]

How are wagon's splitting you two up?

Not like that, like they’re trying to split us away and keep us as like a “scummy duo” so we can’t pop off.

[Rick Dalton]

Well I didn't want to personally, but JJD caught on, probably jokingly, and gamma just decided to confirm it.

Look back at every single time I mention gamma and tell me again that I joined this on a whim.

It’s easy to crumb in a fake mason fashion. I’m never gonna truly believe it.

Like sure, you may be masons. Doesn’t change the fact Gamma has a straight up incorrect application of the meta read.
And if you truly are masons, then this would be GOOD that I am pushing it like this because it protects from potential Night kills, which is another reason I’m not fully believing.

[Rick Dalton]

Titus vote Rick

Nah. I'm much more happy on Elements because of the resistance to him and his AtE when I was last reading.

There has been less resistance to my wagon then to anyone else's. I'm also the joint highest, L-5, of any wagon currently. This looks like an excuse to keep your vote on me.

I am cooling on you as well, but the case on me is trash. And if you’re town, yes, there is scum on you, but there’s scum on me right now too.

[Rick Dalton]

I’m an investigative.

I’m a Day 3 IC.

Which one are you?
Or is the IC claim you saying you'll be obviously town at that point?

I’m both.

You new here?

[Rick Dalton]

how in the holy fuck would we coordinate that if we weren't??
Honestly I feel like right now you're just being stubborn with your beliefs

And, I'm not going to invalid your point of view on gamma's "case" because that's perfectly valid, I'm just slightly alarmed at how defensive you are now and (less so) with cliff.

What do you mean?

You don’t have a way to talk outside of the thread...?

I’m cool, consistent, and collected as scum, so why is defensive setting you off?

I’m like...only defensive as town.

[Rick Dalton]

I’m an investigative.

I’m a Day 3 IC.

Which one are you?
Or is the IC claim you saying you'll be obviously town at that point?

I’m both.

You new here?

relatively

I have a high fake claim meta, but people accept that I have a weird style.

I don’t fake claim, I true claim roles that aren’t mine.

I have proven success with catching scum with my style, and generally it all makes sense why I claim specific things I do.

You can check the Competitive Compromise Coalition thread in MD discussion to see a social deduction I created, and essentially that game is all about fake claiming over and over, and teaches you how to read that kind of thing.

[Rick Dalton]

@Elements - I also fake claimed Day 3 IC, and if I didn’t get revealed as town, then to lynch me, and it drove scum wild in their PT, to the point Night 2 I had to make sure, so I spent hours doing analysis and i used my 1-shot Vigilante to hit the mafia doctor, and thus got the “scum should always kill Boon.” line in my signature.

So the Day 3 ic is kind of a recurring joke, which is actually more of a crumb for vigilante than IC.

[Rick Dalton]

This is the most serious you've been all game, most of your posts we're either silly or some form of meta

pedit: speaking of meta.......

So?

I go back and forth always.

It’s Day 1.

Also, Elements got steam because TownRick pushed him.

That’s why gamma’s application is weak. I have had a strong presence in this game, even prior to this.

[Rick Dalton]

Do you always brag about your carried games, FL?

Anyone else wanna answer this for me?

[Rick Dalton]

Juuuuust wanna make sure it's not AI for you before I go and make accusations.

I’m the most narcissistic player on site, however, I’m narcissistic for everyone I analyze and think everyone should just be proud and confident with their ability and really push their passions. That’s how I am in real life, but people see my genuineness, and I’m overly optimistic, and I’m a derpfuck as well, so it’s a nice blend.

The derpfuck lets me be likable, and the playful arrogance lets people sass me in fun ways.

[Rick Dalton]

So you're that dependant on confirmed information?

Me? I don’t care at all about stuff like that.

I just know I’d be able to pull of crazy out there scum plays like butter, so not gonna pretend other scum players can’t.

I’m not a mechanical player, I’m a social player. I like to focus on dayplay.

[Rick Dalton]

I can brag too. It doesnt exactly show your alignment.

No, but the examples shown portray the type of player/person I am, which people could then use to help them read me correctly.

I’ll give you the fishing pole, and all the tools, but I’m too impatient to teach you how to fish.

[Rick Dalton]

I guess it can make sense if you're trying to set an established meta for yourself.

I don’t need to establish a meta for myself.

I feel like I’m one of the players who’s played in the most games around these parts here, so my meta speaks for itself.

I’m also great at manipulating meta, though, so that’s another reason why gamma’s application is weak.

My scum games don’t look the same. My town games don’t look the same.

I do things as scum because i do them as town, and I constantly am adapting my scum game.

Also, Gamma always incorrectly reads me early game so he should know by this point that’s a weak reasoning.

Town/town we usually eventually end up on the same path, but generally like Day 3.

[Rick Dalton]

I got pissed off and didn’t feel like reading.

Then I read and Gamma’s just scum.

I’m an investigative. Gtfo

First off no way in hell you think an investigative CCs masons in a game this size. Second I'd like to see you justify a scumread on me in any other way.

It wasn’t a CC.

This is a misrep.

[Rick Dalton]

I did.

Your application of that playstyle of mine was straight up incorrect.

Especially because I had a presence in this game alreadyand was actively giving thoughts.

You made a case that you could just state in a simple discussion thread when it didn’t even apply here

[Rick Dalton]

It’s just day 1 when I’m in multiple games

This feels exceptionally questionable
Is this a thing that has recently become a problem for you?

Yes. I’m in too many games often, while modding games.

You also were straight referring to the time I rolled scum like 6 times in a row, 4 simultaneaousy, around 5 games total, and I was modding 3 large theme games.

[Rick Dalton]

I got pissed off and didn’t feel like reading.

Then I read and Gamma’s just scum.

I’m an investigative. Gtfo

First off no way in hell you think an investigative CCs masons in a game this size. Second I'd like to see you justify a scumread on me in any other way.

It wasn’t a CC.

This is a misrep.

Then why speak up when you're nowhere near a lynch, unless you're panicked scum?

Hold up, you were scum with me when I legit hard slipped, and you saw me handle it smoothly.

I was panicky in the scum thread, but not elsewise.

And I speak up because I say what’s on my mind as town. I like to have no filter when I’m town because it helps me get my thoughts across and helps people see that I’m town.

I have nothing to hide, so why hide anything? Kinda mindset

[Rick Dalton]

And like FL has blown up at town!me pushing him before as scum, in fact I think it's probably his default
Town!FL imo is pretty clearly more doubting that scum!FL

So...kinda like how I was with Elements, right

[Rick Dalton]

CONTRADICTION YO

YOUVE BEEN THIRD DEGREE BOON’D

[Rick Dalton]

I have nothing to hide, so why hide anything? Kinda mindset

Because you don't want scum to kill you...

Oh, but that’s still my stream of mind.

I WIFOM the hell out of scum

[Rick Dalton]

Not until I have proof he’s Mason.

I’ve seen Gamma want to pull Mason gambits as not mason before.

He was town not mason too.

See this is why I was okay coming out along with past rapport with A50
And your reaction is shit. Carcalilly started calling me town super early I'm pretty sure. A fake Mason gambit (unless you're mastina) takes time to figure out at least as I see it, never done it before.

Disagree.

Also, Gamma was town who did a Fake Mason gambit with me, his decision, I was scum there, though, so this is a straight up lie.

[Rick Dalton]

@Carca - try to go find the game I caught you and Tchill on, see what happened there

[Rick Dalton]

fuck meta right now man

FL, in plain terms, you're being scummy. You can tell us all it's not AI scummy and we can believe it. Everyone has that bit of gross to them, moreso than others. But in a regular game of mafia with content to this game and this thread alone, you do not look good.

Now, sure.

Previously, no, I wasn’t.

And that’s what I’m referring. I don’t care what you think of my play now, I was not being scummy prior. I was being clear with my thoughts and everything.

Even if you thought i was scum previously, i wasn’t being scummy. This is a cop out of a post.

[Rick Dalton]

Well I didn't want to personally, but JJD caught on, probably jokingly, and gamma just decided to confirm it.

Look back at every single time I mention gamma and tell me again that I joined this on a whim.

It’s easy to crumb in a fake mason fashion. I’m never gonna truly believe it.

Like sure, you may be masons. Doesn’t change the fact Gamma has a straight up incorrect application of the meta read.
And if you truly are masons, then this would be GOOD that I am pushing it like this because it protects from potential Night kills, which is another reason I’m not fully believing.

I don't believe my meta is incorrect. Maybe on my first real application of it, it was an extreme case. Doesn't change the fact you consistently by my recollection have used similar excuses for inactivity as scum.

Disagree. I’m super aware of the games when I’m like that.

Can you say Iwas overly aware in this game, even though I was actually pretty active.

And sure, you were pushing that, but that’s the point. That’s not how I was this game at all.

It’s like you’re saying I’m a chameleon who often likes to be purple when I’m scum, and calling me purple here, even though I’m clearly more of a brown, and not purple.

[Rick Dalton]

Anakin Skywalker used to fix up droids, and he fixes up droids when he’s scum, but i was Vader here, didn’t fix up any droids.

[Rick Dalton]

Well I didn't want to personally, but JJD caught on, probably jokingly, and gamma just decided to confirm it.

Look back at every single time I mention gamma and tell me again that I joined this on a whim.

It’s easy to crumb in a fake mason fashion. I’m never gonna truly believe it.

Like sure, you may be masons. Doesn’t change the fact Gamma has a straight up incorrect application of the meta read.
And if you truly are masons, then this would be GOOD that I am pushing it like this because it protects from potential Night kills, which is another reason I’m not fully believing.

I don't believe my meta is incorrect. Maybe on my first real application of it, it was an extreme case. Doesn't change the fact you consistently by my recollection have used similar excuses for inactivity as scum.

And while I don’t necessarily agree that this was correct meta by you, i also wasn’t attacking the validity of the meta itself.

I was attacking the incorrect usage and application of it.

You were saying i do X as scum, and saying that was what was happening here, and I hard disagree I was doing X. I’ve been Y this entire time, and you’re pushing it like I’m X.

[Rick Dalton]

Also it doesn't matter that you're "protecting from NKs" if you're scum. You can say all sorts of stuff you don't believe man.
And following Carcalilly's lead of dropping meta, you have continually defended Cliff off of nothing but as I see it flimsy joke meme logic. So even dropping meta you STILL look bad.

Again, as scum, there’s no reason for me to not make anything.

And i CLEARLY stated that it was more than just the names and partnership, and I clearly stated exactly why I town read Cliff.

Game state, wagon build up, and all that.

Just because YOU don’t like it or agree with it, doesn’t mean that I haven’t done it, because you are CLEARLY wrong here.

That’s not opinion; this is fact.

[Rick Dalton]

I’m like...only defensive as town.

I really recall you being defensive in Floral Mafia

I don’t even remember said game.

And yeah, I do try to mimic my town meta a lot, but I’m constantly evolving my play anyways.

Meta should be supplementary.

[Rick Dalton]

Juuuuust wanna make sure it's not AI for you before I go and make accusations.

I’m the most narcissistic player on site, however, I’m narcissistic for everyone I analyze and think everyone should just be proud and confident with their ability and really push their passions. That’s how I am in real life, but people see my genuineness, and I’m overly optimistic, and I’m a derpfuck as well, so it’s a nice blend.

The derpfuck lets me be likable, and the playful arrogance lets people sass me in fun ways.

I prefer rational self-analysis. Getting a big ego is a sure way to set yourself up for a nasty fall. And if you don't acknowledge your fuck-ups others will, and they will refuse to trust you from then on.

I agree? I always acknowledge my fuck ups. I even called myself a derpfuck, so this is literally just a post meant to shade and discredit.

All my self analysis is rational. I know my flaws. I know my strengths. Sometimes strengths can turn into flaws, sometimes flaws can be a hidden strength.

They’re both important.

This is a complete discredit attempt which yet again proved why you are incorrect and have a pointless case.

[Rick Dalton]

You made a case that you could just state in a simple discussion thread

Actually what

A meta case when talking about scumFL.

It had zero applicatable meaning to this game, just like posting it in a discussion thread would.

[Rick Dalton]

Like you’re just plain wrong

[Rick Dalton]

You’re saying I’m X when I’m scum, and saying that’s what it is here, but I’m not even X here. I’ve been Y this whole time, so you need to get your spectacles checked.

[Rick Dalton]

And honestly, this isn’t even defensive, Carca.

I’m just proving exactly why he is wrong. Defensive means I am defending myself against something that can harm me, but those blaster shots i don’t even to think about and my force skills just allow me to deflect it without even really thinking. It’s just instinct and takes no extranneaous effort on my part.

It’s just wrong

[Rick Dalton]

I'm just going to ignore Rick when it comes to gamma.

Why

He is completely wrong, so if you ignore that, then you’re playing incorrectly too and choosing to not read people.

[Rick Dalton]

Like I believe I put a note for myself to speak on this, anyway, Rick/Flavor likes to say his activity is NAI but I notice his trend seems to be he ends up straight lurking as scum. That seems to definitely be his game here. Like yea he also has active scum game but inactive town games seem to be a lot less common from him

I’m inactive as town in every single one of my town games, generally multiple times during the game, and I always come in.

I’m pretty sure JJD and I talked about that? Maybe it wasn’t this game.

When I come in, I come in, because when I’m posting, the game just starts circling around me, like not even gonna sugarcoat it. I have to back off, because life gets really busy sometimes, and i need other people to post not revolving me.

And I am also the 5th highest poster in this game, so you saying I was inactive is again, wrong. I go inactive at t8mes, sure, but literally I go inactive in every single game. Especially if it’s a faster game.

I’m always on site, so I’m like...aware of the speed, and I’ll post when I’m not playing, but i don’t really like deep read.

But I always show up. And actually, townMe is MORE inactive than scumMe because there’s more games where I’m just town and eventually die in than games where I’m scum and eventually die in.

[Rick Dalton]

Okay, I'll drop the meta point now. I don't feel convinced by it completely but going on just feels like filling space. However I do want you to answer for your weak defending of Cliff Booth.

I don’t have a weak defending of Cliff. My reasonings are strong. Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t make it incorrect or weak. Game state, wagon, and social environment is what got me to town read, Cliff, and nothing about that has changed.

Why is he scum? I literally didn’t see any real reasons for him being scum, so how come that’s fine? I gave my reasonings. It’s a Day 1. I don’t need more than that.

[Rick Dalton]

I don’t think hop is scum.

I clearly stated i did it for reactions and said I thought he was off.

[Rick Dalton]

Nah, we didn’t make these accounts together. Actually Sharon Tate wanted Cliff Booth and it was taken. That’s how I knew it existed.

I’m pretty sure I know who it is, but I’m not even confident myself.

[Rick Dalton]

Is Chennisden in this game? I always do this with him and I’m generally correct.

Actually, that game I fake claimed Masons with Creature, I actually fake claimed with Manatee, for the same reason, so i could be wrong, but i don’t think I am.

I often am here to defend the people getting hard wagoned

[Rick Dalton]

fuck meta right now man

FL, in plain terms, you're being scummy. You can tell us all it's not AI scummy and we can believe it. Everyone has that bit of gross to them, moreso than others. But in a regular game of mafia with content to this game and this thread alone, you do not look good.

Now, sure.

Previously, no, I wasn’t.

And that’s what I’m referring. I don’t care what you think of my play now, I was not being scummy prior. I was being clear with my thoughts and everything.

Even if you thought i was scum previously, i wasn’t being scummy. This is a cop out of a post.

Did I say "you were being scummy"?

Gamma is squeezing a reaction out of you and that's what I'm reading right now.

Yes. You did.

You literally said, and I quote, “FL, in plain terms, you’re being scummy”

[Rick Dalton]

garmr's shrug off of this being T vs T seems nice

That’s the epitome of a scum play

[Rick Dalton]

I really do want to take gammas side on this but some of the stuff you say is so blatantly scummy and/or straightforward no scum in their right mindset would do it. Literally the only thing making me doubt this.

Then you’re wrong too, because the reasonings are straight incorrect.

[Rick Dalton]

If anything y’all probably neighbors and one of you decided to do a mason gambit instead and the other went “great idea!”

[Rick Dalton]

If anything y’all probably neighbors and one of you decided to do a mason gambit instead and the other went “great idea!”

@Rick - Why would a town neighbor either agree to or propose that in a normal game? Masons are confirmed town, whereas neighbors can be any alignment. So while a scum neighbor would do that, by you shading either of them, you're basically calling both of them scum. I know you're pressing Gamma, but do you think Carcalilly is scum too?

Yes. I’m not certain, but yeah.

Town neighbors often claim masons together because it protects them for a couple of days. It lets them figure themselves out too.

Scum let it happen because eventually they can put it and blame the townie who is often the one that does it.

[Rick Dalton]

The fact is I’ve straight up seen Gamma, in a neighborhood, claim masons. With me.

[Rick Dalton]

I was scum there. I ended up outing Gamma as doing it, and somehow we ended up the final 2 in the game.

[Rick Dalton]

Elements claimed SK but make of that what you will. I don't believe the claim personally.

I forgot about this.

Honestly, it could be mafia claiming SK to try to be “leashed”.

I hate that idea of leashing SK’s. Just kill them.

[Rick Dalton]

Elements claimed SK but make of that what you will. I don't believe the claim personally.

I forgot about this.

Honestly, it could be mafia claiming SK to try to be “leashed”.

I hate that idea of leashing SK’s. Just kill them.

Saying things like that got me caught as scum in the past you know

Though I agree with the logic

I have a town game, on Rick Dalton even, where I pushed through and got a SK lynch because I hate leashing them.

I always look for the SK claim if necessary as mafia, so i think it’s worthless to leash them. They don’t win with town, they have no reason to be leashed.

[Rick Dalton]

I’d bring it up in a discussion thread.

[Rick Dalton]

Elements should probably be the lynch today.

I think he’s Mafia claiming SK amongst crumbing other roles to help him out of the situation.

I’m even getting sour on his wagon, and I think that was by design, like elements and company needed to convince me to move off of him.

I think that’s why the Gamma vs Rick started in the first place, maybe not started, but it heated up and scum probably added fuel to the fire if Gamma is town.

[Rick Dalton]

Lol

[Rick Dalton]

Yeah, aaron’s Been on my suspicious list since they went at me.

That probably means he’s a mislynch. Scum was probably pushing me earlier and now on him.

Guess who fits that bill

[Rick Dalton]

I also was able to mislynch confirmed town Skellen as scum in a game before, you can’t possibly have scum read Skellen accurately in that scenario, JJD.

[Rick Dalton]

I guarantee Elements flips either Mafia or SK. You can hold me accountable if I’m wrong

[Rick Dalton]

If elements is Red PR, it probably means JJD is scum protecting him

[Rick Dalton]

If elements is Red PR, it probably means JJD is scum protecting him

im unsure if this applies but, scum have so much time to craft a fakeclaim. i think the things carcalilly are pointing out might be sloppy town. but im not sure how well he can fakeclaim on the fly

Exactly. Scum have so much time.

But Elements got caught out prior to that time coming so he had to look for and make due with his start of the setup.

We got him before he had the time

[Rick Dalton]

If elements is Red PR, it probably means JJD is scum protecting him

im unsure if this applies but, scum have so much time to craft a fakeclaim. i think the things carcalilly are pointing out might be sloppy town. but im not sure how well he can fakeclaim on the fly

Exactly. Scum have so much time.

But Elements got caught out prior to that time coming so he had to look for and make due with his start of the setup.

We got him before he had the time

youre saying a week isnt enough time? i can probably think of 5 okayish fakeclaims in around an hour if im not being too rushed

Sure, but I’m the crumb king, and you don’t overcrumb as scum, you sit into the skid.

And if you’re arguing there was plenty of time, then you should be arguing that he is scum, and was able to, rather than straight up believe the claim.

He also claimed to be SK.

You know what I claimed when I was SK?

Serial Killer. Because nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

[Rick Dalton]

Also, why are people assuming that Watcher = town without questioning the possibility of scum Watcher?

[Rick Dalton]

I know that kind of claim. It was claimed specifically to give him another day or so to muddy waters.

I was pushing him earlier, he was pushing me, Aaron frost went at me, i came to town read Elements, and he suddenly turns around and goes on Aaron?

No. That’s game state manipulation.

He also went out of his way to “out post me” so i “couldn’t take control” which is also gamestate manipulation.

[Rick Dalton]

Dalton, awaken from your hypnotic infatuation and vote cliff with me

Elements was pushing Cliff. The wagon on Cliff early was terrible and indicative of townCliff.

Also, we push Cliff, he claims another PR.

This is how I got you and Tchill in that one game, by not allowing any more claims to come through the game because that’s what scum wants, that’s why scum fake claim.

[Rick Dalton]

if he claimed doctor i probably would have lynched him instantly, but watcher is such a strange claim here. though it is a normal game so the pool is nowhere near as wide

One thing is for sure elementis shouldnt be todays lynch.

Its fair to discusss if he is lying or not. But lynchign him today doesnt help the town.

Hard hard hard hard disagree.

Literally my first scum game on site, I claimed Tracker in a similar situation, and I won the game off of it as the last scum in 4p mylo, with a confirmed mason in the game leftover.

Letting him live is how it gets solidified in the mind to never lynch. That’s how deep wolf coasts happen.

And Watcher investigations are going to be unconfirmable, especially if he is an actual Scum Watcher.

[Rick Dalton]

Actually, question. You're just a watcher? No role modifiers?

There are modifications. I'm the town macho watcher and it turns out it might be a one shot ability so that's fun :/

Uggghhhh...

Guys. Come on.

“The town Macho Watcher”

Town doesn’t need to say the town here, and scum Macho Watcher, and turns out means he’s trying to actively limit himself now

[Rick Dalton]

That’s a scum slip by Carcalilly probably, and they aren’t associated at all in my mind.

[Rick Dalton]

aww so sad. but wrong answer VOTE: elements

sorry but you have lost the game :[

the correct answer was: simple watcher

If you’re scum bussing, you’re deep wolfin. This post actually made me laugh.

But yeah, don’t let this leave lylo alive.

[Rick Dalton]

Okay, I’m getting second thoughts on Elements again.

[Rick Dalton]

We only have like 36 hours left, though, and 11 people on onenperson is a lot.

Let’s kill Elements and go to tomorrow

[Rick Dalton]

I think that’s L-1?

[Rick Dalton]

It was actually like L-4.

Profii/Titus/Gamma/Garmr are taken away.

Bob, Carca, Eevee, Tchill on.

[Rick Dalton]

what's your main

site?

sight?

Me in the mirror

[Rick Dalton]

Wagonomics make me excited.

[Rick Dalton]

I think so?

I think he hammered right after JJD.

I think this is an obv red flip.

[Rick Dalton]

Because players on here tend to change their playstyle from game to game, so looking I feel like looking for differences won't be too helpful.

Actually players don't.

I do, but I agree, players don’t.

[Rick Dalton]

Who is texcat? I like texcat, I’ve played with her many a times, I’ve hard caught a texcat in a game I didn’t play at all until dy 4, then I caught like 3 scum.

I like texcat.

Pocketed.

[Rick Dalton]

Alonzo, you replaced FlippyNips. Nuff said.

[Rick Dalton]

PRs outing results unprompted, in particular revealing what roles are in the game (!!) is another head scratcher. Can voyeurs be scum?

Can we lynch Dave for this post. Dave scum have day chat do you think I would out the doctor if I was a scum pr.

No, you can't. I'm acting in my inexperienced challenged role here. It was a seriously dumb thing to do, perhaps too dumb.
Scum might say such a thing publicly in order to try to gain town cred, and in order to try to fish the doc by getting the doc to defend them.

I agree! People should always fake claim rather than true claim for reactions.

You tell em, Dave!

[Rick Dalton]

Also, Gamma/Carca....

Next time, PLAY ALONG WITH ME. Sorry, that aggravated me.

You were claimed Masons, and I was literally giving you guys a way to backtrack your claim in a believable fashion, but you INSISTED on being outed Masons Day 1.

[Rick Dalton]

There is zero chance that ScumGamma ever pushes me Day 1 like that. Discredit, sure. I don’t understand why Gamma didn’t see it.

[Rick Dalton]

Garmr, have we been scum together? Like years ago? Was that you in that Fire Emblem Heroes game? I’m Flavor Leaf/Boonskiies.

[Rick Dalton]

Eyy, it’s my stunt double.

Guys, I don’t like lynching Tchill. He’s a Boon Babe, and I like to give him the benefit of the doubt until I see actual reasons for me to believe he is scum. That being said, I have no real idea for seeing Tchill as a wagon like this

[Rick Dalton]

A lot of people sure love using the “he’s a liability” claim to justify their actions in hindsight now that Elements is flipped town.

Only 2 players in my Mafia career have I ever felt were a liability that I believed lynching confirmed town them would have brought a more likely town victory.

[Rick Dalton]

People should always fake claim rather than true claim for reactions

You have yet to do that here though. I suggest you CC my Doctor claim.

Sure, I have, you just haven’t seen it yet.

And I didn’t know you claimed doctor?

I’m a Loyal Doctor. I’m CC’ing this.

Real claim.

[Rick Dalton]

VOTE: Almost50

[Rick Dalton]

VOTE: Almost50

VOTE: JJD

[Rick Dalton]

Posts 2100-2107... no. No. No. No.

We are not doing that this game, you both have two pages to retract all claims otherwise I am going to wagon you both until you die.

You can’t push a collective A50/FL duo.

[Rick Dalton]

UNVOTE: Jjd

[Rick Dalton]

If this town let’s them continue with that nonsense it will result in a loss.

People say this, but the majority of games I do shenanigans I end up solving.

You can ask A50/Garmr about my trololol’ing all game as an IC.

You can ask Vorkuta/Alchemist/Una about my trollloling fake claim day 3 IC into Vig.

[Rick Dalton]

There is a chance Rick Dalton is scum

I think the chances of Rick being scum increase if cliff tells me he is townreading Rick.

Do you townread Rick cliff?

Why does that have anything to do with me?

[Rick Dalton]

I don’t have enough control on this game to be scum

[Rick Dalton]

@profii

[Rick Dalton]

Rick do I townread you

You should, yes. But like, just say you don’t because they’re gonna push some weird stuff.

[Rick Dalton]

Rick do you know who Cliff is?

I think so, but not positive. I wouldn’t think I had much experience with them as a player anyways.

[Rick Dalton]

Like I don’t think I’d be able to meta them even if I did.

[Rick Dalton]

only compared to you almighty Titus

Thanks for the sarcasm but strategy is my thing. People reading, not so much.

If Garmr white lies, he protects you, making him probably town.

If it's mid error, we all should be informed and corrected b4 ppl rely on it.

People reading and hyper analyzing in a sociological manner is my thing

[Rick Dalton]

only compared to you almighty Titus

Thanks for the sarcasm but strategy is my thing. People reading, not so much.

If Garmr white lies, he protects you, making him probably town.

If it's mid error, we all should be informed and corrected b4 ppl rely on it.

People reading and hyper analyzing in a sociological manner is my thing

If I don't annoy the shit out of you, we should hydrae sometime but you gotta take point D1 barring a stupid amount of data to play with.

Sounds good, I’m good at floating around early game.

[Rick Dalton]

Richard my old friend, do you know what my role is based on the post I made about my role potentially being useless this game if it's role madness

No, even as people only look into the atmospheric nature, do you think I would know this from the beginning?

[Rick Dalton]

Carcalilly’s not actually a mason. She’s covering for Gamma’s real mason partner to draw the no.

[Rick Dalton]

Wait, if we know Garmr lied about his target, what was going on there? And if he lied about his target why aren't people voting him? I feel like 90 percent of this game is like 3 miles over my head.

VOTE: Garmr

Pedit: shit Garmr lying about a PR this feels familiar.

VOTE: tchill

I didn't lie about my target I lied about my result but

carralilly acted daft

and didn't realise I was trying to protect her by creating a imaginary doctor for scum to hunt after......

Also the fact the mod said

no result

instead of

action failed

made believe my action was a success.

I can relate to this on a personal level

[Rick Dalton]

I feel like I’m soul reading Garmr right now.

[Rick Dalton]

Also, JJD

[Rick Dalton]

Also Cliff Booth

[Rick Dalton]

The rest of y’all can eat it, gimme my flask

[Rick Dalton]

Wait, I’m gonna take control of the game today AND i’m Town. I screwed myself over. I swear to drunk I’m not god or my name isn’t Dick ralton.

[Rick Dalton]

In my nightmares I see myself and the rest of town too stubborn to lynch scum!Dalton because even though he's scummily glazing by, it's not "scum indicative for him" or some shit.

It’s okay, you can say it. I’m just too charming.

[Rick Dalton]

Dalton, do you keep Cliff in your townblock? Is it for the gimmick or do you have an intricate reason?
And I'm going to assume your joking about the mason shit, but like it or not, I'm conftown for today.

Pretty sure answered this yesterday, and was like a main talking point.

However, I wouldn’t say he’s in my town block, but he is a lean town read, but I still soul read him.

[Rick Dalton]

In my nightmares I see myself and the rest of town too stubborn to lynch scum!Dalton because even though he's scummily glazing by, it's not "scum indicative for him" or some shit.

To be fair, Rick’s actions thus far are par for the course. If we have a vig he or she should just kill Rick.

Youknow I’ve only been vigged once when I was town? Wait, no, twice.

In my near 6 years on site.

Also, this is scummy of Gobbledygook, because he acts like I’m Vig worthy when just about every “par for the course” game I’ve had with him, i’ve Been town with a correct solve. This might only be a sample size of one, but I hard pushed him when he was a SK, Something I have a lot of accuracy and result doing. Check Tttt in Pokemon Upick.

[Rick Dalton]

Also, he states par for the course like I’ve played more than one game with him.

hard FOS: Gobbledy

For that blatant chop at me

[Rick Dalton]

In my nightmares I see myself and the rest of town too stubborn to lynch scum!Dalton because even though he's scummily glazing by, it's not "scum indicative for him" or some shit.

To be fair, Rick’s actions thus far are par for the course. If we have a vig he or she should just kill Rick.

Exactly why I am having anxieties right now

This is also weak, because neither of you guys have ever played with ScumMe.

So the fact you guys say “par for the course” is borderline scumslip.

Especially you Carca. You’re obvscum now

[Rick Dalton]

Yes, because Scum would claim Voyeur of all the roles on the wiki. COME ON!

Scum!Garmr claimed voyeur because it uses the exactly the information that they had. When Gamma turned up dead, it would be easy to assume that the doc was on Carca. But they don't know who the doc is. Partly it's the timing of the claim for me. I don't think town!Garmr would have claimed. How likely is it that town has a watcher and a voyeur?

What does voyeur and Watcher have anything to cancel out about? If anything there’s synergy in it.

[Rick Dalton]

In my nightmares I see myself and the rest of town too stubborn to lynch scum!Dalton because even though he's scummily glazing by, it's not "scum indicative for him" or some shit.

To be fair, Rick’s actions thus far are par for the course. If we have a vig he or she should just kill Rick.

Exactly why I am having anxieties right now

I think there’s a high likelihood for a vig or an SK given the size of this game. Our prayers may be answered yet.

Hilarious how this gets brought up after I claim doctor.

[Rick Dalton]

Wow, the mod was online on another site while we were waiting for the Elements flip. I feel very betrayed and think modkilling a scum is the only way to make it up to us. Don't make me reveal which site lil!

VOTE: aaron

I'm doing this or tchill today.

One day a policy lynch will hit scum. Can I insult Elements playstyle if by some weird coincidence I see him around?

Sorry to hear about your terminal illness carcalilly. Kind of offended.

-kork

It should have. Shame we had to policy lynch.

VOTE: tchill

Not really a fan of these posts from Hopkirk here. Trying to justify the Elements lynch by using the phrase "policy lynch" feels like a strange narrative to push.

VOTE: Hopkirk

No comment on bob thinking the same thing but longer?

Elements amendments to his pr claim WERE ACTUALLY fake. He could have summarised it/explained it in different words and he said he couldn't. He then self voted/refused to do anything else/explain himself. That's either caught scum, or town that should be policy lynched for trying to make their town game look scummy for future advantage, or town who doesn't care whatsoever. What would you call it?

-Hop

I mean I can understand him getting confused by the wording of his role PM. It specifically said "Once, at night," which is usually said when the role is 1-shot.

That's just typical Elements play from my experience with him, although I agree that playing bad town on purpose to benefit your scum game is anti-wincon and makes it easy for you to get caught when you actually do role scum.

This is trash and surface level scum filler. I expect more coming from the Hollow Knight.

[Rick Dalton]

Guys.. I'm the Vig. I am also the Doctor. And aside from being a Cop, Jailer and Tracker I am also a Fruit Vendor. (Did I miss anything??)

I legit am doctor

[Rick Dalton]

Bob. I like Bob. Bob is someone I like.

[Rick Dalton]

who'd ya protect Dalton

You, cuz you my boo

Didn’t know you were Ascetic

[Rick Dalton]

Also, Cliff is a PR, get off of him. I already secretly claimed what he was because apparently I’m next level, and I see and pick up on things people don’t.