Detective Penguin & City of Fogport [Game Over]

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I've given a few reads in the doc PT and here they are:

PP town
pops/Bingle scum
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Pine leantown
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townread on JJD, idc if it's controversial

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Actually pops could be town given fish monger's vote parking.

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Their interactions feel TMI tho

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I'm kinda convinced that pops is jsut scum

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Well ok JJD is town that's not a bad read

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I've been reading this game completely blind to mechanics and apparently Pine is very likely town given neighborhood shenanigans

Would someone like to explain

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I also don't know how to read Flavor Leaf this game

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Pops your reads feel really easy

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I also don't know how to read Flavor Leaf this game

Sorry - do you know how to read FL, full stop?

I dunno

Haven't played with him in a while. Prolly not?

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I am gorkington

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I mean - I've played with him for years and I don't know how to.

Why the specification of this game?

Who did you replace btw?

Specification of this game because i dont remember my read accuracy on him way back when. I mostly remember he was the guy who stopped my mislynch around 70 times which I am grateful for

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Pops your reads feel really easy

Sometimes the reads are easy, whoever shot Fishmonger obviously agrees that one was easy

By easy I mean easy for you to make pops

Convenient

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I think there's scum in pops/bingle

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Marquis do you have no scumreads

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I don't want to entertain the ofhrz JJD 1v1 so please stop

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Also of note

JJD has been accusing Ofhrz of not reading, and thinks it makes her scum

He is accurate to a degree on the not reading part

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Oh, I explained my defense of Pelican in the hood. I'm not going into it here, but you can go ahead and ask Vec/Marquis if it makes sense.

I'm not keen on trusting the judgement of people whose alignment I don't have a good read on.

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Mechanically or just because you don't think FakeGod puts more than one scum in there

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That's shoddy reasoning that should be avoided at least until one of them flips scum

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That approach works sometimes but generally you get a deepwolf

Calling so many people town without really differentiating what your "hmm I guess" reads and "this is actually really pinging me town a lot, and i will trust my gut" reads. and you have listed too many TRs for them all to be a) "really pinging town" reads and b) for them to be reliable enough to use.

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Almost every wagon sucks ass and you should be ashamed

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Almost every wagon sucks ass and you should be ashamed

Didnt you just say you suspected pops and bingle?

And those aren't wagons

Bingle is voting pops and PP voting Bingle is probably the only good wagon here

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Chandra I agree with the point you're trying to make but not with the way you're making it

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I bet the mod/spec PT is having a good laugh about something today. FG is batting a thousand on this one.

I was sort of hoping to wake up to an in-depth analysis of Fish's posts and interactions with other players, so I wouldn't have to go back myself. These wagon-based speeches have been pre-written, and that's something town shouldn't do.

FL did not shoot Fish. I have no idea why anyway would think that.

Why?

This post is kind of scummy btw

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Hey guys talk to me. Who in this playerlist do you know generally prefers playing scum?

This feels fake

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Um if you don't read any of the rest of this please read Post 467

I think his townreads are all town because this shit reeks of buddying - (if I'm wrong it's probably on Marquis)

And I feel like his reads on Kuribo and Flavor are "fuck you" reads (and Chandra to some extent) which makes me feel like they're town

I guess what I'm getting at is that his interactions with Chandra Kuribo and Flavor actually have some substance to them, some real emotion, and some real stakes I guess. But his interactions with popsofctown feel really empty, and it feels like an act.

Spoiler: fish monger iso dump

Can you just write one post where you put it all together including the other anti town stuff I don't really want to parse this

My marquis meta is hellaold, but this is, like, town.

Fake read, feels like buddying

+town points for Marquis

Why cant scum be a miller? In a theme game based on gimmicks?

There is probably a scum miller

I guess. I think Pops is just shading early on this game.

Bussing

I'm taking exception to your randomly shooting down productive votes

Youre still overreacting.

But, I am not 'shooting down productive votes' I'm 'engaging in discourse by sharing an opinion that has more breadth than some RVS vote'.

Really GD aggressive

Chandra is town

Pops do you have a guilty conscience? I didn't claim anything for you.

You did, now that I'm looking harder at the game.

Weird interaction with Perry and wrt Pops slot

Marquis Pelican
PenguinP Gork
--The Rest--
Chandra
Kuribo Flavor
Pops

$10 his townreads here are all town and are all people he wants to buddy

RCE isn't dumb. He's, in all honesty, prone to quick judgements and thus rash decisions. Such as accepting his lynch when he is town. idk. Because I feel like scum rce lurkers asp instead of slugging it with flavor

Trying to look better when Pelican flips town

yea I 100 dont buy 2 viggles in a game like this, nor accept RCE counterclaiming vig from boon. sounds like one of those rash things I was mentioning.

There are two vigs good to know

Im under the impression that the vig claim from you is false as well, simply because there would be no reason to claim it, even if true.

The vig claim is true good to know

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Liek, it looks like Fish has been planning to A) lategame and B) look good off a pops scumflip/

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ofrhz [3] - popsofctown, Marquis, Judge Joseph Dredd
popsofctown [3] - Bingle x3
Judge Joseph Dredd [1] - ofrhz
Bingle [1] - PenguinPower
Day One Lynch [1] - Chandra Nalaar

These wagons can fuck off:

ofrhz
JJD
DOL

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No Marquis/Fish Monger can be S/S

I dunno if I think it strongly enough to not lynch pop

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This just hit me: WHAT IF the "unkillables" were really not? What if their PT effect does NOT stop a direct kill? I guess that would explain why they seem to TR each other today, under the false assumption that if scum knew that they would have certainly killed one of them.

^^That's not something I would think of. Blame the monkey man for planting the thought in my head.

you could be right. but this might not be an altogether productiev line of conversation.

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Hey guys talk to me. Who in this playerlist do you know generally prefers playing scum?

This feels fake

It's NAI. Some players nowadays try to ask this (or ask everyone to state what they prefer to play) to break the ice and try to decide if someone should be considered to be more likely scum based on the level of comfort they're showing. It doesn't work most of the time (in some cases it does, but usually only when you know the answer in advance).

On another note, if that Croag guy doesn't play the game properly for the next 72 hours I'm policy lynching him (and I almost never do PLs). All I see is him making excuses to not be present it's become overly and utterly ridiculous.

Id rather not do it now bc pops has way higher scum equity and pops scumgame is something I actually am looking out for.

If you've seen croag's last scumgame youll know croag is rly easy to kill as scum

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so why does he pretend to be convinced by the almighty chennis

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so why does he pretend to be convinced by the almighty chennis

?

Why does he pretend that he changed his mind because of me then

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Speaking of which, JJD, can we lynch you now and follow your plan tonight? Even if scum kills one of us, we have Pine now. For people wondering - JJD offered his life after we join Bingle's hood

No how about we dont

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The lesson in fakegod setups is play conservatively and play mafia

The moment town stops playing mafia is the moment town loses

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Ur not wrong marquis but im going to need to be sold on pops town before i do this

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Bingle where is this confidence coming from

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You feel really different from Gay Dance

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Like, Gay Dance I was actively manipulating you to be confident in some solve that would win me the game

And here you're much more confident and you don't feel manipulated

Why the discrepancy Bingle

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Good thing Fish got vigged tho.

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I cannot mechanically confirm u are town. so can I just call you obvtown and call it a day

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My conclusions from D2 play and postings so far:

• Scum vig is still ridiculous and I hate anyone jumping through hoops to try and make the moonlogic work
  
• Flavor did not kill Fish, but is being purposefully unclear on the matter. He ignored Pops wanting a hard claim and used DOL asking to pivot onto a scumread there.
  
• Flavor as either alignment knows he has a reputation for fakeclaiming as town. I don't doubt Flavor as scum would take advantage of this to get an early mislynch on what he sees is an actual vig.
  
• a scum!Flavor gets to have the best of both worlds here, straddling the line between the idea that his town vig claim is legit in a game with 2 nightkills, and the idea that if he isn't really a vig he's just town trying to bait the scum kill
  
• There isn't a world in which we can let this continue as is unpunished, and getting this done now also clears up the gamestate while we're ahead

Alternatively, unless Flavor is somehow telling 100% truth (lol), we plead for the vig to shoot Flavor tonight, but I'm certain scum are expecting that and will be using whatever powers they have to make Flavor live whether he's town or scum. And considering Fish got vigged instead last night too.. idk man.

• agreed
  
• then as a town let's collectively not tolerate his bullshit here
  
• yeah
  
• also, yeah
  
• Idk. Just because FL is hard to read doesn't mean we should just "lol idc" lynch him. there are better lynches

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I agree with your Kagami read marquis

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Bingle where is this confidence coming from

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what about that makes it NOT an easy read to have?

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Idk I suck at low effort scum and marathons r usually low effort for me

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Day 1, Chandar, Marquis have one scum in them at least.

I make these kind of posts for later in the game, and then cross cancel.

Well Marquis isnt scum I think

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idk what to make of bingle slot honestly.

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Um if you don't read any of the rest of this please read Post 467

I think his townreads are all town because this shit reeks of buddying - (if I'm wrong it's probably on Marquis)

And I feel like his reads on Kuribo and Flavor are "fuck you" reads (and Chandra to some extent) which makes me feel like they're town

I guess what I'm getting at is that his interactions with Chandra Kuribo and Flavor actually have some substance to them, some real emotion, and some real stakes I guess. But his interactions with popsofctown feel really empty, and it feels like an act.

Spoiler: fish monger iso dump

Can you just write one post where you put it all together including the other anti town stuff I don't really want to parse this

My marquis meta is hellaold, but this is, like, town.

Fake read, feels like buddying

+town points for Marquis

Why cant scum be a miller? In a theme game based on gimmicks?

There is probably a scum miller

I guess. I think Pops is just shading early on this game.

Bussing

I'm taking exception to your randomly shooting down productive votes

Youre still overreacting.

But, I am not 'shooting down productive votes' I'm 'engaging in discourse by sharing an opinion that has more breadth than some RVS vote'.

Really GD aggressive

Chandra is town

Pops do you have a guilty conscience? I didn't claim anything for you.

You did, now that I'm looking harder at the game.

Weird interaction with Perry and wrt Pops slot

Marquis Pelican
PenguinP Gork
--The Rest--
Chandra
Kuribo Flavor
Pops

$10 his townreads here are all town and are all people he wants to buddy

RCE isn't dumb. He's, in all honesty, prone to quick judgements and thus rash decisions. Such as accepting his lynch when he is town. idk. Because I feel like scum rce lurkers asp instead of slugging it with flavor

Trying to look better when Pelican flips town

yea I 100 dont buy 2 viggles in a game like this, nor accept RCE counterclaiming vig from boon. sounds like one of those rash things I was mentioning.

There are two vigs good to know

Im under the impression that the vig claim from you is false as well, simply because there would be no reason to claim it, even if true.

The vig claim is true good to know

ACTUALLY

This post reminds me that fish was doing some really odd ordering when replying/catching up on the game.

Like, quote posts in a weird almost randomly (at the time) looking way. I even commented on it.

What if that was just him going into his teammates iso during his catchup to create some interactions there?

I have a feeling if you look into the postnumbers that suddenly jump backwards youre gonna find his team. Even better if it overlaps with those scumreads (pops/chandra)

vecna is town

also reason #500 pops is scum then

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i hate this whole meta of this person spams words in this thread so they are immediately town/lets not lynch them but someone is absent and they HAVE TO BE LYNCHED TO GET MORE INFO

i think a wolf is hiding in one of these posters who posts frequently

VOTE: pops

good way to say nothing

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im not looknig at postcount, i'm look at depth of posts

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or, what if one of bingle's crew is wrong

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no, i'm not

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because i feel more strongly that bingle could be wolf

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because i feel more strongly that bingle could be wolf

Chennis can we look elsewhere today
Both Vecna and I have hood discussion related reason to tentatively call all of our hood town

Sure

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im looking at popsofctown today

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i hate this whole meta of this person spams words in this thread so they are immediately town/lets not lynch them but someone is absent and they HAVE TO BE LYNCHED TO GET MORE INFO

i think a wolf is hiding in one of these posters who posts frequently

VOTE: pops

good way to say nothing

Really? I actually felt it was a pretty town sentiment
Tbh whenever Croag comes in I get some mildly to strong town vibes that kind of dissipate by the next time he arrives

I don't think I want to lynch him today either

I mean. it's a good vote

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marquis could be pocketing me tbh

i feel pocketed

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Lynching you is pretty reasonable

Why

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Lynching you is pretty reasonable

Why

Why not?

What have they done that would make it unreasonable to you?

If you want a case I may even provide one, though I'm not sure what the point is when no one cares what I think.

Actually you know what I don't like the DOL slot that much

But yeah I want an outline sort of

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I just ISOed it and the early game play isn't that towny

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actually

VOTE: croag

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town's noise and collective dissonance is making it way too fucking easy for scum to hide and do nothing

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i hate this whole meta of this person spams words in this thread so they are immediately town/lets not lynch them but someone is absent and they HAVE TO BE LYNCHED TO GET MORE INFO

i think a wolf is hiding in one of these posters who posts frequently

VOTE: pops

no

this is completely fucking untrue

people don't info lynch lurkers because they give info

people lynch lurkers so scum can't get away with this shit

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I'm okay with Kagami

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Just like half of the playerlist (at least)

Who else you consider for a lynch today besides Pop and Bingle?

I guess FL isn't happening, so I'd be ok with Chandra, maybe Kagami, Croag should just eat a bullet from a vig (I'm not scumreading that slot, but I'd rather not waste lynch there down the line)

2439 was @this post

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Lmaoooooo someone please explain the scum read on me right now

U bantering

Sounds like gay dance croag tbh

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now you've just told me which one i shouild say

so im gonna say

i dont think flavor would fakeclaim like this as town

is it normal for parsing why you have the reads that you have to be like pulling teeth? :')
youre making it very difficult for me to understand anything about your thought process and gosh dang it is not making sorting you easy!

like as gorkington said it's really fucking annoying to get any reasoning for croag's reads

but subtle difference between her town and scumgame - in her scumgame she didn't mention any reasons. in her towngame she IMPLIED the existence of reasons. at least.

uh i dont think she mentioned any reasons whatsoever. no sort of reasoning exists and i dont think she has the know-how to fake that as scum

she also feels sort of appeasy

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town's noise and collective dissonance is making it way too fucking easy for scum to hide and do nothing

I agree with this, but there are other players I suspect are more likely to be maliciously lurking than Croag

I'm reminded that Fish basically successfully lurked his wagon out - maybe he observed how well it was working for his buddies

I've rolled scum with Croag

She doesn't maliciously lurk she just lurks

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Like you're literally forced to sort her based on minutia and she technically fulfills activity requirements so. um

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Chennisden maybe you're reading her better off double the meta

yeah ive rolled both alignments with her. i think the minutia def point to scum croag

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i dunno.

people im not townreading are

{pops ofrhz bingle} - formed an impression on me though
{pine kagami croag} - have not really been present.

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Vecna is town . . .

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Do you think croag could be voting a really convenient vote

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Hmmm

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Im pushing croag.

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Until she plays the game and gives me reason to TR her I am pushing croag

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Oh and im 50% sure chenn is scum

I'm not sure how many scum there are though?

nice

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tbh from an objective standpoint im not most scummy/lynch target for next 3/4 days

i would put them on 3 other players over me

imo more scummy players than me are DOL, chenn and bingle

my scum read on pops has all but gone now

Why is this objective

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Dude Craog do you actually think u can get away with shitraeding me like this

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Alright, here's the deal:

I want each and every player here to state whether they would be willing to vote me today or not.

I'll keep the list public for ease:


[*]ofrhz
[*]PenguinPower
[*]Croag
[*]Pine
[*]Kagami
[*]Bingle
[*]Day One Lynch
[*]Vecna
[*]chennisden
[*]Marquis
[*]popsofctown
[*]Chandra Nalaar
[*]Flavor Leaf

no way

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i think kagami is a better lynch today

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Kgamai's iteractions wit croag are bad like in a way that could be kagami/croag but like kagami is more scummy

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can we just fucking lynch scum please

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i do think croag would have the general unawareness to scumread me as scum so that doesnt make me tr her

the fact she's playing is a plus

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VOTE: kagami

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Yall we don’t lunch kagami here

Show work

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Kagami is saying a bunch of obvious things and then hinting at some little things prolly in an effort to stay alive because "ooh we can get info if we let him live" or something

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I'm with you in spirit, ceph, but I don't want to derail.

Do you see how these kind of posts are really easy to make

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Guys can we stop being lazy

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My Pops SR has calmed down btw

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lmao

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dont rush it but i would like to say

wow this game is fucking phenomenal

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also i thought of something a few hours ago

if your hood has any public mechanics (i.e. our hood. we all know we're doctors) the only way scum doesn't know about it is if the hood is all town. unless you really strongly believe this it is probably pro-town to fullclaim any shenanigans that ALL MEMBERS Of the 'Hood would know about

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also how much do i bet that scum is onwagon early for the easy townpoints when this inevitably goes through

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no

it isnt for individual people

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Chandra I feel betrayed.

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Convenient time for you to enter the thread eh

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Dark Sun is Goro Akechi being a traitor/bad guy

So this is obviously more fitting

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ALSO p5a music is underappreciated

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Also

Note to self

Look at pine wagon. Seemed like a counterwagon that was very scum motivated.

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Chandra posts sort of spew Pine town.

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Yeah please don't hammer before I take another look at the Pine wagon

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Ok

Um

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I could be wrong on Marquis town tbh

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Someone in Chandra's hood should claim all information that is publicly known in their hood

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Uh that's completely pointless today because everyone's gonna say no because well chandra slipped

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Optimal use? FUCKING DONT

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That is my Cliffnotes on what to do as a 1-shot doc (or as any uncaffenated PR)

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I'm fucking hysterical pops

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And it's binder paper too

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the NK is quite obvious but ok

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I'd prefer to hear it from croag since she is town.

Why do u think or know so

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Wow wtf

If ur town whatever the fuck went on in the cop hood is why we fucking blay conservatively

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Kagami im not scumreading you for "slipping" its the way you went about ur claim.

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Me neither.

As you guys probably should have guessed, we're cops of random sanities.

Three of us acted, and thus became caffeinated. Croag neglected to act because she's too cool to submit investigations.

Unfortunately, absolutely none of our investigations so far will ever be useful. Penguin investigated pops for heaven knows what reason, and I investigated Fish, who was killed. Both of those investigation came back Town, so PP and I are naive / insane.

Ceph claims to have investigated Gork and gotten guilty. We don't know if he's telling the truth and it doesn't matter. Ceph and Croag are paranoid/sane.

this was really stupid to out

No it wasn't because Chandra , who is basically fucking guiltied scum, already knows this

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So this is a 1v1 between vecna/marquis & kagami now

Nice

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Croag, anything you've said in the PT before FakeGod locked the thread last day is public information.

Out it.

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If you did shenanigans N2

and

you fully believe that your hood is all town, maybe not.

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Or unless they're getting wagoned and you expect them to be lynched.

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pp could be scum. let me think on it

f u c k

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hydra slip. i did mean to post in this game tho.

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i dont feel strongly on it. but

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we should reread pp

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sorry, but it was the only way i could actually get you to be here.

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i do not have an actual read on you and there's a couple reasons why.

pedit: can you help me remedy my issue of not having a read on you

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there's nothing much to form a read on you with:

townpoints:

your tone isn't terrible
you're not the scummiest

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scumpoints:

Convenient time for you to enter the thread eh

and game flavor

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Your scumpoints are bad is what I'm saying btw.

Just want to make that clear.

i also know that, which is why i dont have a read on you.

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So pine seems to agree on Marquis scum, interesting.

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Who do you think scum killed, pops? The might as well be conftown guy or the caffeinated cop

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FL, I suggest you listen to these people

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Spoiler - they do. Pine is ninja tracker.

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Calm the fuck down guys.

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There's a scum hiding in all your noise, stop making their job so fucking easy

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i want to look in {ofrhz pp croag} today, please?

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i think jjd is likely town yeah

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dunno about you, flavor

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we should be 9-2 rn. i kinda expect scum to defend each other

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but i really think jjd is like, only ever scumw ith fl.

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jjd is town, so im not arguing

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i was kinda scumreading pops in the beginning of the replacement and i got bad vibes from ofrhz too

but is it really that easy

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maybe.

fwiw chandra was probably supposed to be the endgame guy, but that scumslip was a big rip.

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VOTE: D1L

Every post this slot makes has scum written all over it. I cant be the only one reading this game.

I'll still lynch ofrhz any day of the week

I think it's ofrhz bois

this looks like pushing one townie and distancing ur scumbuddy

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Don't like how eager DOL was to jump on this wagon.

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Fair enough.

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im pretty sure this ends the game. let's just go ahead and end the game.

How do you know there's only one scum left, if there is

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um ok

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Marquis can mechanically confirm themselves town.

Flavor Leaf in theory can mechanically confirm himself town yet is actively not doing so and my comment is meant to highlight that extra

so you got about a third of what that's about.

explain how fl can theoretically conftown himself?

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this feels too easy, and i think there's a deepwolf pushing it pretty aggressively.

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DOL seems to be pushing it pretty aggressively for starters, etc

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cool bingle, confirm?

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JJD is town.

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Also being a sane/insane cop doesn't mean shit when you can be scum by dayplay.

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i think PP has significant scum equity for balance/dayplay reasons

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so, bingle, was the marquis fn claim a lie?

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so, bingle, was the marquis fn claim a lie?

i don't care why you did it btw; this is a Y/N question

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i think PP has significant scum equity for balance/dayplay reasons

Agreed, but not today. We find the scum in us/docs before we go cop hunting.

agreed, for today

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i think PP has significant scum equity for balance/dayplay reasons

I think one day you may actually learn how to read me.

Maybe.

that's not how it works.

if nobody's townreading you it's on YOU not ME

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Votecount 3.4 would like to have a word with your delusions.

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people townreading PP raise your hands?

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from your pov the following should be obvious:

you're not helping me if im town

you're helping me lots if im scum

so stop?

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there are a lot of valid concerns on you.

you feel like you're coasting, and the only reason you've given for you being super ultra towny is "dude im a cop"

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rushing my vote does not help me or you.

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god. stop being a jackass

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i think PP has significant scum equity for balance/dayplay reasons

Agreed, but not today. We find the scum in us/docs before we go cop hunting.

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no u

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both of us also know you're not going to get lynched today; stop trying to rile me up.

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o and also pp before you go

my flavor is jenna otter

[chennisden]

i wouldn't put it past fakegod to make the titular penguin scum if the femme fatale evil guy otter is not an evil guy.

[chennisden]

Day One, why is it a big deal if Pine dies over Croag? It sounded like he was the one who vigged Fish in the first place.

Croag is sane/naive 1-shot cop, Pine was a ninja tracker. I'd shoot cop over tracker, unless I have good reason not to

based on this post it is literally impossible for DOL and PP to be scum together

there's a thing called being dishonest, you know

[chennisden]

FL why did you get peli mislynched

[chennisden]

What's the protown motive behind that?

[chennisden]

And Marquis why did you hold off on the CC so long? We could've lynched scum FL a long time ago if you said it earlier (from your pov)

[chennisden]

Ok.

I get how you could misread Kagami considering I did the same thing

[chennisden]

FL I think you could be scum because while I don't see a ton of scum motivation I see literally no town motivation in your earlygame play.

[chennisden]

FL I think you could be scum because while I don't see a ton of scum motivation I see literally no town motivation in your earlygame play.

On a real note, Chennisden is actually probably scum with this post. This takes zero blame, and helps push through my mislynch.

I'm more inclined to believe Marquis when you make posts like these.

[chennisden]

>_<

[chennisden]

VOTE: fl

[chennisden]

You really have to push every avenue, don't you?

[chennisden]

Hi taking posts out of context, I am chennisden.

[chennisden]

dude, flavorleaf.

out of like maybe a bajillion games you read me wrong like at most once.

this time my alignment is pretty fucking obvious.

sorry but u dont get to do this shit. if ur town u should be SORRY for misreading me, and i'll forgive you if you type a five paragraph essay on why im the greatest please and ty.

[chennisden]

you could be right actually on this one

[chennisden]

UNVOTE:

[chennisden]

this is actually hilarious

[chennisden]

worst case, lynch wrong vig the other.

if this is right.

ill check ur work tmrw and i'm like 90% sure if it's right, it's PP

[chennisden]

yo, coffeenated bois, if youd like to confirm

VOTE: pp

[chennisden]

UNVOTE:

Bleh. Lemme think on this bc I think fl might be wrong here

[chennisden]

let me make it really clear - i'm not going to tolerate people setting up my slot by discrediting it for their own machinations.

[chennisden]

VOTE: ofhrz

[chennisden]

Yeah, I've unvoted and am not following FL

[chennisden]

VOTE: fl

[chennisden]

I think Marquis has some scum equity. But FL's hammer is exactly the same as what he did during his scumgame, and that shot is scum motivated, if he even did it. He is just hiding behind bullshit to avoid people calling out his more egregious bullshit.

[chennisden]

I tried getting shot because I planned on shooting Gobbledygook, so our PT would go public.

Why is this a good idea?

[chennisden]

What makes you confirmed town?

[chennisden]

Not sure why I was checked of all people, but okay.

[chennisden]

I think Bingle/Marquis is

possible

, but that depends on how much allowance I'm going to give for FL doing his shit.

[chennisden]

idk.

VOTE: bingle?

[chennisden]

we gotta look at d1l

[chennisden]

surface read is fl/bingle