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Marquis, Bingle and VecnaIn post 3335, gobbledygook wrote:Who is in the vanillizing hood?- Day One Wagon
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Pops claimed not to use FN, only to tell in hood that she might use it on Kagami, so I see no problem hereIn post 3346, Bingle wrote:
Speaking of which:In post 3009, FakeGod wrote:There are 4 living players who are currently addicted to caffeine.
JJD/Marquis/Croag/PP/Pops
Pops tried to FN Kagami last night, and so should be caffeinated. JJD meanwhile supposedly docced *someone* on a night where we have no missing kills and was all for bringing this up while we were lynching Chandra, but mysteriously doesn't want to talk about it today.
As for JJD, I just want to believe he isn't petty enough to act like he did towards me as a caught scum and he's just frustrated town, who feels falsely accused by me- Day One Wagon
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So, who is scum in your hood? Cause I don't believe in 3 BP townies with at least 3 vig shots in town handsIn post 3371, Bingle wrote:
Agreed, but not today. We find the scum in us/docs before we go cop hunting.In post 3367, chennisden wrote:i think PP has significant scum equity for balance/dayplay reasons- Day One Wagon
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Croag is sane/naive 1-shot cop, Pine was a ninja tracker. I'd shoot cop over tracker, unless I have good reason not toIn post 3412, gobbledygook wrote:Day One, why is it a big deal if Pine dies over Croag? It sounded like he was the one who vigged Fish in the first place.- Day One Wagon
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I forgot that Kagami was still alive, so Croag was sane/insane/naive cop that hasn't acted N1In post 3413, Day One Wagon wrote:
Croag is sane/naive 1-shot cop, Pine was a ninja tracker. I'd shoot cop over tracker, unless I have good reason not toIn post 3412, gobbledygook wrote:Day One, why is it a big deal if Pine dies over Croag? It sounded like he was the one who vigged Fish in the first place.- Day One Wagon
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Insane cop is on same level as sane cop, they just get opposite results. Cops have unknown sanity, so even getting check from sane cop doesn't mean anything, if you don't know that it was sane cop. Also, everyone was under impression that other 3 cops used their checks N1 and only Croag wasn't, so preventing check should be priority
They could easily kill Pine N3, 1 check from tracker isn't that big deal either- Day One Wagon
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Well, you said FL getting away with his vig claim was elephant in the room. I just thought there's no reason to discuss that as you're shooting him anywayIn post 3431, Marquis wrote:
Does it look like I want to waste time mislynchingIn post 3426, Day One Wagon wrote:Marquis, didn't you said you're shooting FL tonight?- Day One Wagon
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Bingle said they knew 3 vigs exist, so I was wondering how they knew it and thought maybe it was tied to their votes and they lose vote for every dead vigIn post 3501, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Oh, lol.In post 2311, Day One Wagon wrote:Bingle, I have question to you - does your multivote is tied to number of live vigs?
Doesn’t this raise scum equity in Marquis, though, because of Kuribo’s Mafia Vigilante knowledge?- Day One Wagon
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Bingle started with 4, Perry dead and that's -1 vote, D2 Bingle had 3. But he said they just lose a vote every day phase. I was just curious how Bingle knew there was 3 vigs D2 and made some theoryIn post 3561, Flavor Leaf wrote:Hmm, Debunked because Day 2 he had 3 votes still
Also, why you so confident that JJD actually acted N1? I said in our hood last night that you shouldn't take such claims from JJD at face value and he agreed that it's in his gambit range
PP claimed to act N2 today, so that's too a bit off in your analysis- Day One Wagon
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PP claimed not to act N1In post 3564, Flavor Leaf wrote:
I brought this up. If JJD didnt act Night 1, then where’s the extra caffeinated player? Why haven’t they countered because it’s be a direct counter claim.In post 3562, Day One Wagon wrote:
Bingle started with 4, Perry dead and that's -1 vote, D2 Bingle had 3. But he said they just lose a vote every day phase. I was just curious how Bingle knew there was 3 vigs D2 and made some theoryIn post 3561, Flavor Leaf wrote:Hmm, Debunked because Day 2 he had 3 votes still
Also, why you so confident that JJD actually acted N1? I said in our hood last night that you shouldn't take such claims from JJD at face value and he agreed that it's in his gambit range
PP claimed to act N2 today, so that's too a bit off in your analysis
PP stated they acted Night 1, yet nothing happened. At the present time, that is a PP scum slip because there wasn’t an additional caffeinated to account for.
I remember JJD counting 7 people acting N1 with 4 caffeinations, so I don't really understand your point. It was clear that things were off with D2 math and PP not acting, JJD lying isn't impossibleIn post 3017, PenguinPower wrote:No I didn't.
We were supposed to all act, but I didn't because Croag never confirmed.- Day One Wagon
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PP claims to act N2, not N1, I don't see problem there. He never claimed to act N1, he simply didn't denied assumption that he acted N1 and it's smart, scum wouldn't consider him as a target, if they think he already used his ability
Have you played with town A50? I'm really curious why you so hung up on fact that he isn't lying about acting N1. I've seen him flipping his claim as town in the past, so I take that as a NAI
Also I see you finally noticed that there was 0 people caffeinated at the start- Day One Wagon
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That was from D2, when Kagami and Chandra were alive. But if we take PP and JJD out of equation, we get 4 caffeinations. PP and Croag replacing Kagami and Chandra makes 4 again. Assuming that Chandra didn't acted is wrong. Even if she knew her sanity, she had to get caffeinated for PoE reasons anyway- Day One Wagon
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Vecna claimed something about being caffeinated from the start, but with how many bs people said in this game already, who knows if that's true or notIn post 3579, gobbledygook wrote:Also has it actually been claimed the 3 reflexive people are caffeinated already?- Day One Wagon
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he claimed target, but there's no way to confirmIn post 3590, gobbledygook wrote:So did JJD confirm he used an action the first night?- Day One Wagon
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Where Croag? And why you so sure Bingle and Vecna are caffeinated?In post 3593, Flavor Leaf wrote:
This has already been discussed. It doesn’t matter.In post 3574, Day One Wagon wrote:PP claims to act N2, not N1, I don't see problem there. He never claimed to act N1, he simply didn't denied assumption that he acted N1 and it's smart, scum wouldn't consider him as a target, if they think he already used his ability
Have you played with town A50? I'm really curious why you so hung up on fact that he isn't lying about acting N1. I've seen him flipping his claim as town in the past, so I take that as a NAI
Also I see you finally noticed that there was 0 people caffeinated at the start
Day 3 has 4 caffeinated.
Bingle
Vecna
Marquis
PP
JJD
Like drop Night 1 from your mind. It’s still accurate.- Day One Wagon
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He claimed in hood last night, but I leave for him to decide, if he want out here or notIn post 3600, Flavor Leaf wrote:
I actually feel like I remember him specifically stating he didn’t claim his target.In post 3592, gobbledygook wrote:Who was his target?
I think he accidentally killed Fish, though.- Day One Wagon
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He wasn't trying to protect, he tried to kill, but his target survivedIn post 3606, Bingle wrote:
Why would a spent 1 shot doc who didn't save anyone not want to claim their target? That's bullshit to stop himself from being analyzed.In post 3604, Day One Wagon wrote:He claimed in hood last night, but I leave for him to decide, if he want out here or not- Day One Wagon
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I'm not saying it's better, but this perspective makes his claim way less believableIn post 3610, Bingle wrote:That's not better.- Day One Wagon
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Or, if certain person listened what rest of his hood said and didn't get caffeinated N1 for no reason, town wouldn't lost to caffeine as it were 3 uncaffeinated peopleIn post 4469, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:So as not to be mean to anyone I shall refrain from commenting on any individual play. I just want to say that had we joined the "unkillables" on N1 we would have exposed the lie on D2, and we would have probably had reason enough to -at least- pressure Bingle on that day (at least until chandra slipped). You worry about caffeine? We LOST by caffeine still.
Thank you for hosting, FG. It was an interesting setup.
@chenn: it probably would not have changed the outcome, but why didn't you CPR me on N4 as I had suggested? A 5-players LyLo is theoretically better for the town still. I say it probably wouldn't have changed the outcome because they would have lynched Croag anyway (Bingle, Vecna & PP), but still [in]in theory[/in] it was the right move.
Also, people thinking someone as good as Bingle being so useless could be town is mindblowing- Day One Wagon
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I can say same to you - I deliberately decided not to call people's mistakes, but you had to come and blabber how we didn't listened your amazing plan N1 to join Bingle's hoodIn post 4472, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:
Are you bloody reading or is your head stuck up your ass?? How wqas that ever going to matter?? It would have shown that only 3 people were caffeinated, and it would still have got me lynched. Wait. Let's assume I wasn't lynched and the game went like it did. Bingle just shoot Marquis instead and claims that I did because Marquis was the only "confirmed" townie, and Bingle/Vecna/PP still lynch me and Bingle still wins.In post 4471, Day One Wagon wrote:Or, if certain person listened what rest of his hood said and didn't get caffeinated N1 for no reason, town wouldn't lost to caffeine as it were 3 uncaffeinated people
But really... do I expect you to understand any of this? Absolutely not. You just want to be right and will argue for it all the way to hell and back. I dunno what you're trying to compensate for but please don't do it at my expense. Thank you.
You wasn't lynched, while being caffeinated, you think they'd lynched non caffeinated you with 2 clears? It'd been PP/Croag to try find your partner and it's more likely for PP to go. Then it's Bingle vs Vecna, in 4 man MYLO would be obv that there only 1 scum left or game was over with 2 scum left- Day One Wagon
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You missed part, where you wouldn't be caffeinated and people would have to lynch cop partner first, so yes, I KNOW EVERYTHING, while you try to ignore what isn't convenient to youIn post 4474, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:No. I guess you're right. With 2 clears on me none of Scum!Bingle, Butthead!Vecna or Peepee-Brain!Penguin would vote me like EVER.
WAIT! They all DID! But you're still right because you know everything.- Day One Wagon
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In a 4 man team, when scumbuddy is under heavy fire? Why not. But then there's other question, would Marquis do it?In post 4492, Jingle wrote:
Oh right, you think shooting a scumbuddy as scum vig is a viable choice.In post 4487, Kagami wrote:Why is Marquis + cop less likely than JJD + the less scummy cop on a 4-man team?- Day One Wagon
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For the record, my whole hood was town.In post 4497, kuribo wrote:Oh and who kept following counterwagon after counterwagon
And then suspected Pine despite him being the only surviving member of a neighborhood who already had one dead scum and in a game where people said stuff like "MY WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TOWN WHEEEEEEE"
Also, that post was mainly reaction test to highlight terrible gamestate we were in- Day One Wagon
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Then how we lost this? I blame youIn post 4499, Bingle wrote:My whole hood was town too!- Day One Wagon
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