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VOTE: P003: Yea
P004: The player who makes a proposal is automatically assumed to be voting for it.
VOTE: P004ShowTown: 6-5
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P003 is at L-1 rn.ShowTown: 6-5
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@mod P004 passes
P006: Any rule which has an effect retroactively requires a supermajority to pass.
VOTE: P005 Yea
Why can't we have botth? Winning doesn't end the game.OkaPoka wrote:VOTE: p005 nay
Rather than 'winning' let's have an office of an executive.
P007: The office of Executive is established.ShowTown: 6-5
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Wow this blew up fast.
VOTE: P001: Nay
It bans other currencies, which could concievably become a problem.
VOTE: P008: Yea
I imagine this would be used for one-time effects, which distinguish motions from normal proposals.
VOTE: P009: Nay
This doesn't forbid players from making proposals during other people's turns, which appears to be the intent.
VOTE: P010: Yea
This is simple but might become useful at some point. No obvious drawbacks.
VOTE: P011: Nay
Ah, I see. This supports P009. I don't really like the idea of restricting proposals in this way, though.
VOTE: P012: Nay
This relies on P011, which I'm against.
VOTE: P013: Yea [hammer]
lol how did we miss this.
VOTE: P014: Yea
Again, beneficial procedurally, and no obvious drawbacks.
VOTE: P015: Nay
I feel like this could turn in to a bad Nomic version of hammertesting.
VOTE: P016: Nay
510 at first, but you only lose 5 for breaking the rules, and you get 51 per week? You can afford to break the rules daily and still turn a profit.
VOTE: P017: Nay
I have a different idea for implementing a similar system, outlined in my next non-voting focused post.
VOTE: P0018: Yea
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P0019: Any group of players may, at any time, declare themselves a COALITION. The CHAIR of said coalition must post the name of the coalition in the thread, as well as all players who are part of it. All listed players must confirm that they are part of this coalition. Once they do, the coalition is official, and can determine its own rules and regulations to be followed by its members. The chair of a coalition may exercise any ex officio right granted to him by a proposal.
P0020: If permitted, either conditionally or otherwise, by the rules of his coalition, the chair of a coalition may exercise some or all of the votes delegated by members of his coalition. If the chair does so, the players whose votes are delegated are treated as if they themselves had voted in the standard way. Any vote delegated to a chair may be changed by the delegating player at will.
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This allows official groups to form, and lets people give their votes to other people. The player can even change their vote if they disagree with the chair's decision.ShowTown: 6-5
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It makes future modifications possible, such as other rights for chairs. It achieves a similar goal as yours (maybe even the same if someone created a coalition where the only rule was identical to your proposition), but allows for more generalization.In post 73, OkaPoka wrote:point of recognizing groups officially?ShowTown: 6-5
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Note that P0019 does not forbid a player from being in multiple coalitions, but P0020 does prevent the vote of a player on multiple coalitions from counting twice.
Pedit: I see what you mean. I'm definitely open to changes to P020.ShowTown: 6-5
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I think mine was 4, which is majority with 7 players.In post 77, Inferno390 wrote:We need one more vote to hammer 13 I thinkShowTown: 6-5
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No? 204 says absolute majority.In post 78, Inferno390 wrote:Things we need to still:
Define what a proposal is
Define what a proposal can do
Define what transmuting, amending, and repealing rules are
Tell what majority it takes to create a rule(right now we’re working off of super majority, which is fine, but the rules don’t say this)
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It's fine, we all have days lilke that.Inferno390 wrote:Clearly I can't read or comprehend what I'm reading or think in general
P013 passes. I'll update the wiki later tonight.
VOTE: Yea on all of P021-P026, assuming that the minimal obvious grammatical/procedural changes are made.ShowTown: 6-5
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+1In post 123, skitter30 wrote:
@aronis i'm not sure i like this part of your currency propositionIn post 106, Aronis wrote:Other positions may be added to aid the Chair at their discretion.
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VOTE: P027: No
VOTE: P028: No
VOTE: P029: Yea
VOTE: P030: No
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P032: Any action not prohibited is permitted, unless it relates to official matters in the rules, in which case it is prohibited if not permitted.ShowTown: 6-5
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P006 is not redundant, a supermajority is not the same as an absolute majority. One is 2/3, one is 1/2.ShowTown: 6-5
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Thebtrue hero of this thread. My vote for executive if we ever pass that bill.
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VOTE: Yea P027 my issues wwith this have been worked out. I don't love the game moderartor clause of sect. B, but I can live with it.
VOTE: Yea P033 essentially Nomic's no talking about ongoing games rule
VOTE: Yea P034 this is a good idea, setting up a framework, even before it's used, is key.
VOTE: Nay P035 I like the idea, but we don't need this yet. 8 players is less than a micro, and this thread hasn't been flooded yet. I'd be open to this once the game gets moving quicker.ShowTown: 6-5
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This is actually P035, 035-037 were proposed unofficially so they haven't actually been proposed yet.In post 200, OkaPoka wrote:Proposal P038 The Nomic Committee Room
Officially create a nomic thread called "The Committee Room" in Frogstar World B where discussion about creating extensive or small bills can be held before they are submitted to the floor for votes.ShowTown: 6-5
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Can someone update the wiki page? I can't keep track of it all just from reading the thread.ShowTown: 6-5
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It's fine, thanks a load for your effort.In post 243, Inferno390 wrote:Sorry been really busy to keep everything up to dateShowTown: 6-5
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VOTE: Yea on P036-038ShowTown: 6-5
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VOTE: Yea P039 cause the inflation rate won't be too bad. I assume the Charleton reserve will pay this?ShowTown: 6-5
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I think any player can? I'd have to check the wiki though.In post 256, James Brafin wrote:All players need to be able to update the wiki before I vote yes on this.
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Bump.ShowTown: 6-5
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P030All players must post in the game thread a minimum of once per week, excluding v/la.ShowTown: 6-5
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whoops, I take back P030 then. just trying to get some action going in the thread.ShowTown: 6-5
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VOTE: P039 Yea
did someone say leader?
P040: The office of executive is established.ShowTown: 6-5
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